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Jewish Genealogy Meeting in East London/Essex, UK #general

A J <genealicej@...>
 

Some information for those living in or visting East London/Essex, UK. The
next meeting of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain East of
London Group will be held tomorrow (Monday).

Stuck in a rut with the same old routine, bored with Big Brother and
cringing at celebrity jungle japes? Does every day seem the same? Are you
fascinated by tales of adventure, romance, intrigue, heartbreak and joy?
break the cycle and wake up to a new genealogical dawn! Discover the
ultimate reality show, your own family's poignant history, for less than
the Mayor of London's congestion charge!

Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain East of London Group covering
all of East London and Essex

Breaking Out of Genealogy Groundhog Day!

However much or little you know about your family's past, join us at this
meeting and learn how to overcome the obstacles. Come to Ilford
Synagogue, 22 Beehive Lane, Gants HIll, Essex on Monday, 9th June 2003 at
7.45 pm.

Lots of literature, computer resources and advice on how to start
discovering a history unique to your family more exciting than any reality
TV! Entry free for JGSGB members, £3 for visitors. Light refreshments
available. Nearest tube Gants Hill on Central Line. The East of London
Group is for anyone living in or visiting East London or Essex and covers
every aspect of Jewish genealogy.

For more information about the group and future meetings, visit
http://jgsgbeol.tripod.com [please note there is *no* www in this URL]

Alice Josephs
UK


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Genealogy Meeting in East London/Essex, UK #general

A J <genealicej@...>
 

Some information for those living in or visting East London/Essex, UK. The
next meeting of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain East of
London Group will be held tomorrow (Monday).

Stuck in a rut with the same old routine, bored with Big Brother and
cringing at celebrity jungle japes? Does every day seem the same? Are you
fascinated by tales of adventure, romance, intrigue, heartbreak and joy?
break the cycle and wake up to a new genealogical dawn! Discover the
ultimate reality show, your own family's poignant history, for less than
the Mayor of London's congestion charge!

Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain East of London Group covering
all of East London and Essex

Breaking Out of Genealogy Groundhog Day!

However much or little you know about your family's past, join us at this
meeting and learn how to overcome the obstacles. Come to Ilford
Synagogue, 22 Beehive Lane, Gants HIll, Essex on Monday, 9th June 2003 at
7.45 pm.

Lots of literature, computer resources and advice on how to start
discovering a history unique to your family more exciting than any reality
TV! Entry free for JGSGB members, £3 for visitors. Light refreshments
available. Nearest tube Gants Hill on Central Line. The East of London
Group is for anyone living in or visiting East London or Essex and covers
every aspect of Jewish genealogy.

For more information about the group and future meetings, visit
http://jgsgbeol.tripod.com [please note there is *no* www in this URL]

Alice Josephs
UK


Adam+Eve, HENRIQUES, JOSEPHY family tree in museum #germany

Dr. Peter Clemens <dr.clemenspc@...>
 

(Anwers only to dr.clemenspc@..., because in these months I don't
read any mailing list!)

Especially for my JOSEPHY and HINRICHSEN relatives and their descendants
may be of interest, that in the museum of Parchim (30 km SE >from my home
town Schwerin) last week was the start of an 8-month-exhibition about
the Bible "The Bible, St. Marien and great inhabitants of Parchim".

This exhibition is illustrated by the Parchim Bible of 1596 and many other
documents, among them two family trees designed by me. One upper one
shows the descent >from ADAM & EVE, via NOAH and KING DAVID (1000 B.C.)
to the 1st chief Rabbi of Portugal, 1115 A.D., then going down to the
HENRIQUES/ HINRICHSENS and then to the couple of Henriette HINRICHSEN
married to August JOSEPHY - these two being my gggparents, born around
1800.

The 2nd family tree shows the world famous Parchim "Hard fescue
King" Gustav JOSEPHY/ JOSEPHI b:1857, and all his descendants. With view
to the alive descendants I severely paid attention, that - except the
birth years and some portraits - I didn't "publish" more data than
anyway are published in the internet e.g. in the international phone
books there. I have to thank Gustav's gson Hans-Otto - the family tree
is a copy of my present for his 85th birthday.

Maybe you come to Mecklenburg in the next 8 months? You should visit
the Museum Parchim! Parchim is half way >from Berlin to Hamburg, at the
Autobahn (where you can drive as fast as you can and want).

Peter Chr. CLEMENS, Schwerin / Mecklenburg, Pediatrician, MD ~PhD

(My family until 1900: http://gedbas.genealogy.net/index.jsp or via
http://www.genealogienetz.de/faqs/gedbas_faq.html )
I search for a l l descendants of
(a) Jewish JOSEPHY/ JOSEPHI >from Mecklenburg since 1700
(b) Jewish HENRIQUES-HINRICHSEN since 1600

\Anwers only to dr.clemenspc@..., because in these months I don't
read any mailing list!)


German SIG #Germany Adam+Eve, HENRIQUES, JOSEPHY family tree in museum #germany

Dr. Peter Clemens <dr.clemenspc@...>
 

(Anwers only to dr.clemenspc@..., because in these months I don't
read any mailing list!)

Especially for my JOSEPHY and HINRICHSEN relatives and their descendants
may be of interest, that in the museum of Parchim (30 km SE >from my home
town Schwerin) last week was the start of an 8-month-exhibition about
the Bible "The Bible, St. Marien and great inhabitants of Parchim".

This exhibition is illustrated by the Parchim Bible of 1596 and many other
documents, among them two family trees designed by me. One upper one
shows the descent >from ADAM & EVE, via NOAH and KING DAVID (1000 B.C.)
to the 1st chief Rabbi of Portugal, 1115 A.D., then going down to the
HENRIQUES/ HINRICHSENS and then to the couple of Henriette HINRICHSEN
married to August JOSEPHY - these two being my gggparents, born around
1800.

The 2nd family tree shows the world famous Parchim "Hard fescue
King" Gustav JOSEPHY/ JOSEPHI b:1857, and all his descendants. With view
to the alive descendants I severely paid attention, that - except the
birth years and some portraits - I didn't "publish" more data than
anyway are published in the internet e.g. in the international phone
books there. I have to thank Gustav's gson Hans-Otto - the family tree
is a copy of my present for his 85th birthday.

Maybe you come to Mecklenburg in the next 8 months? You should visit
the Museum Parchim! Parchim is half way >from Berlin to Hamburg, at the
Autobahn (where you can drive as fast as you can and want).

Peter Chr. CLEMENS, Schwerin / Mecklenburg, Pediatrician, MD ~PhD

(My family until 1900: http://gedbas.genealogy.net/index.jsp or via
http://www.genealogienetz.de/faqs/gedbas_faq.html )
I search for a l l descendants of
(a) Jewish JOSEPHY/ JOSEPHI >from Mecklenburg since 1700
(b) Jewish HENRIQUES-HINRICHSEN since 1600

\Anwers only to dr.clemenspc@..., because in these months I don't
read any mailing list!)


Gabriel Swart #general

beatrice swart <bswart33321@...>
 

Gabriel was born in Sharon Pa. Can someone look up
the birthday certificate for me, when they go to the
Vital Records office. He was born on either
12/15/1933 or on 12/15/1922.

Gabriel Died 11/6/1999 and is buried at Veterans
Cemetery, Burlington, NJ
Can someone take a picture of the stone or get the
information >from the office?

Would appreciate it.

Bea Swart
Tamarac, Fl
bswart33321@...


New Jersey Death #general

beatrice swart <bswart33321@...>
 

Arline Swart Died 3/9/76 in Old Bridge, NJ
She is buried at East Brunswick Cemetery , NJ.

The Library in Old Bridge has a room named for Arline
Swart. She was a volunteer at the Library and did a
lot of work for them.

If someone lives in that part of New Jersey, is it
possible that when you go to the cemetery you can get
a picture of the stone or if no stone the information
from the office. Her husband was Gabriel Swart.
from the Library, is it possible to take a picture of
the plaque that shows that the room was dedicated to
Arline Swart?? Or a letter >from the Library giving
the facts about the dedication.

Thanks for all your help.

Bea Swart
Tamarac, Fl
bswart33321@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Gabriel Swart #general

beatrice swart <bswart33321@...>
 

Gabriel was born in Sharon Pa. Can someone look up
the birthday certificate for me, when they go to the
Vital Records office. He was born on either
12/15/1933 or on 12/15/1922.

Gabriel Died 11/6/1999 and is buried at Veterans
Cemetery, Burlington, NJ
Can someone take a picture of the stone or get the
information >from the office?

Would appreciate it.

Bea Swart
Tamarac, Fl
bswart33321@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New Jersey Death #general

beatrice swart <bswart33321@...>
 

Arline Swart Died 3/9/76 in Old Bridge, NJ
She is buried at East Brunswick Cemetery , NJ.

The Library in Old Bridge has a room named for Arline
Swart. She was a volunteer at the Library and did a
lot of work for them.

If someone lives in that part of New Jersey, is it
possible that when you go to the cemetery you can get
a picture of the stone or if no stone the information
from the office. Her husband was Gabriel Swart.
from the Library, is it possible to take a picture of
the plaque that shows that the room was dedicated to
Arline Swart?? Or a letter >from the Library giving
the facts about the dedication.

Thanks for all your help.

Bea Swart
Tamarac, Fl
bswart33321@...


Re: Breslau and parents not surviving the son'es wedding #germany

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 6/8/2003 wsz@... writes:

" I am looking through Jewish marriage excerpts >from Breslau 1887 to 1938
and have noticed that one third or more of the parents are deceased at the
time the weddings took place. This seems a very high percentage."

==Thought:

The older sons would inherit the paternal home or business; the younger
sons would seek their fortunes elsewhere--and marry far >from Breslau.

Michael Bernet Suburban NY


German SIG #Germany Re: Breslau and parents not surviving the son'es wedding #germany

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 6/8/2003 wsz@... writes:

" I am looking through Jewish marriage excerpts >from Breslau 1887 to 1938
and have noticed that one third or more of the parents are deceased at the
time the weddings took place. This seems a very high percentage."

==Thought:

The older sons would inherit the paternal home or business; the younger
sons would seek their fortunes elsewhere--and marry far >from Breslau.

Michael Bernet Suburban NY


SITE CITE: Emigration list of Hoexter students #germany

Naomi Teveth <ntevet@...>
 

Dear Gersig friends,

A detailed list of Jewish pupils who studied at the "K?nig Wilhelm
Gymnasium" in Hoexter and emigrated, can be viewed here :

http://www.amerikanetz.de/beitrag_ostkaemper01.htm


This list is part of the site http://www.amerikanetz.de/

researching emigration >from Westphalia (Germany) to the United States since
the 19th century.
Some interesting links and articles can be found there.

Best regards,
Naomi Teveth in Tel Aviv ntevet@...


German SIG #Germany SITE CITE: Emigration list of Hoexter students #germany

Naomi Teveth <ntevet@...>
 

Dear Gersig friends,

A detailed list of Jewish pupils who studied at the "K?nig Wilhelm
Gymnasium" in Hoexter and emigrated, can be viewed here :

http://www.amerikanetz.de/beitrag_ostkaemper01.htm


This list is part of the site http://www.amerikanetz.de/

researching emigration >from Westphalia (Germany) to the United States since
the 19th century.
Some interesting links and articles can be found there.

Best regards,
Naomi Teveth in Tel Aviv ntevet@...


Kaufman family #germany

DWSAnes@...
 

In recent days, there has been considerable discussion about the name
KAUFMAN. It is obvious that the name KAUFMAN is quite common

I am researching a KAUFMAN family which originated in Affaltrach, Baden-
Wurtenburg, Germany. My information dates back as far as 1730, but as
always there is need for more information. The information which I have
obtained is that SELIGMANN and his son ABRAHAM assumed the name KAUFMAN
early in the 19th century. >from that time forward I have as m any as nine
generations startein with ABRAHAM and Juttle (1730-1760). In the
suceeding generation there are the follwing names >from Germany primarily
from the the Affaltrach area:-SALOMON and ELKALA, daughter of JAKOB and
their children LOW and HUTTLA, SELIGMANN and BUNLE, WERTHEIMER, HERZ,
MITTLEBERGER, OTTENHEIMER, PFIFFERLING, MAAS, WEISSBURGER, REUTLINGER,
GIERIG, KIRCHHAUSEDN, MARX, STETTAUER, KAHN, KORSCHEL, BECK and ISAK.

My own KAUFMAN family came to the United States prior to 1855 settling in
Indiana and Illinois. (In fact there were Kaufman stores in the mid and
southwest founded by members of this family.) I look forward to
corresponding with anyone who has information about the names mentioned
above and specifically >from the Baden-Wurtenburg area. As an incentive to
those whome I might connect and include into my KAUFMAN family, I can
provide information about a KAUFMAN family get together planned for this
summer.

Donald W. Stein DWSAnes@... Oro Valley, AZ, USA


German SIG #Germany Kaufman family #germany

DWSAnes@...
 

In recent days, there has been considerable discussion about the name
KAUFMAN. It is obvious that the name KAUFMAN is quite common

I am researching a KAUFMAN family which originated in Affaltrach, Baden-
Wurtenburg, Germany. My information dates back as far as 1730, but as
always there is need for more information. The information which I have
obtained is that SELIGMANN and his son ABRAHAM assumed the name KAUFMAN
early in the 19th century. >from that time forward I have as m any as nine
generations startein with ABRAHAM and Juttle (1730-1760). In the
suceeding generation there are the follwing names >from Germany primarily
from the the Affaltrach area:-SALOMON and ELKALA, daughter of JAKOB and
their children LOW and HUTTLA, SELIGMANN and BUNLE, WERTHEIMER, HERZ,
MITTLEBERGER, OTTENHEIMER, PFIFFERLING, MAAS, WEISSBURGER, REUTLINGER,
GIERIG, KIRCHHAUSEDN, MARX, STETTAUER, KAHN, KORSCHEL, BECK and ISAK.

My own KAUFMAN family came to the United States prior to 1855 settling in
Indiana and Illinois. (In fact there were Kaufman stores in the mid and
southwest founded by members of this family.) I look forward to
corresponding with anyone who has information about the names mentioned
above and specifically >from the Baden-Wurtenburg area. As an incentive to
those whome I might connect and include into my KAUFMAN family, I can
provide information about a KAUFMAN family get together planned for this
summer.

Donald W. Stein DWSAnes@... Oro Valley, AZ, USA


Re: "Gaditsch., Russia" #general

Mike Posnick
 

Sally,

Thanks for your message. I want to make sure that you and everyone else
understands that I have not rejected the opinions of the "experts" out of
hand. I have been aware of Gadyach >from the beginning of my research--
it's the readily apparent answer to my question. And I'm fully aware that
our ancestors moved around more than most people believe. If you will re-
read my last message on the subject, you will see that I merely am looking
to see whether there is a better answer.

My reason for questioning Gadyach is that it does not fit the other facts
of which I am aware. As I mentioned, the family lore is that the children
all were born in Pinsk. One of the first things a good researcher learns
is that there is an element of truth to most family stories. I can think
of no reason why the family would have said the children were born in
Pinsk if they actually were born in Gadyach, especially when the two towns
are so distant >from one another.

I also am aware of the places you suggest. I agree with you that one of
them well may be the town I am seeking. The correct answer, if one ever
is found, probably will be found in other family information that I have
yet to discover.

Let me emphasize that my purpose in submitting the question to the list
was not to obtain research help. I am perfectly capable as a researcher.
It was to determine whether anyone else previously had faced exactly the
same question, to learn how they resolved it, and to find out why they
resolved it in the manner they did.

Mike Posnick

In her JewishGen message of 6/8/2003, Sally M. Bruckheimer wrote:

Well, you have rejected the opinions of the experts, so let me see if I
can come up with and alternative location. I went into Shtetl Seeker and
found Novyy Sverzhen. Then I looked by location-for towns nearby.
Starting with G, there is a Gorodzey or Horodziej, 12.5 miles to the SW.
But starting with K is Khotishche-if 'Gaditsch' is there, I suggest that
it might be Khotishche, at 5407 2539, it is 63 miles away, but in the
general neighborhood, and it sounds like Gaditch.

But don't reject Gadyach out of hand. Naomi and Alexander have correctly
identified a lot of places which people couldn't find, and people moved
around a lot more than we think. In particular, there was a great
movement >from the NE Poland/Lithuania/Belarus region to Ukraine, so they
might have lived in one place and moved to another.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Re: "Gaditsch., Russia" #general

Mike Posnick
 

Sally,

Thanks for your message. I want to make sure that you and everyone else
understands that I have not rejected the opinions of the "experts" out of
hand. I have been aware of Gadyach >from the beginning of my research--
it's the readily apparent answer to my question. And I'm fully aware that
our ancestors moved around more than most people believe. If you will re-
read my last message on the subject, you will see that I merely am looking
to see whether there is a better answer.

My reason for questioning Gadyach is that it does not fit the other facts
of which I am aware. As I mentioned, the family lore is that the children
all were born in Pinsk. One of the first things a good researcher learns
is that there is an element of truth to most family stories. I can think
of no reason why the family would have said the children were born in
Pinsk if they actually were born in Gadyach, especially when the two towns
are so distant >from one another.

I also am aware of the places you suggest. I agree with you that one of
them well may be the town I am seeking. The correct answer, if one ever
is found, probably will be found in other family information that I have
yet to discover.

Let me emphasize that my purpose in submitting the question to the list
was not to obtain research help. I am perfectly capable as a researcher.
It was to determine whether anyone else previously had faced exactly the
same question, to learn how they resolved it, and to find out why they
resolved it in the manner they did.

Mike Posnick

In her JewishGen message of 6/8/2003, Sally M. Bruckheimer wrote:

Well, you have rejected the opinions of the experts, so let me see if I
can come up with and alternative location. I went into Shtetl Seeker and
found Novyy Sverzhen. Then I looked by location-for towns nearby.
Starting with G, there is a Gorodzey or Horodziej, 12.5 miles to the SW.
But starting with K is Khotishche-if 'Gaditsch' is there, I suggest that
it might be Khotishche, at 5407 2539, it is 63 miles away, but in the
general neighborhood, and it sounds like Gaditch.

But don't reject Gadyach out of hand. Naomi and Alexander have correctly
identified a lot of places which people couldn't find, and people moved
around a lot more than we think. In particular, there was a great
movement >from the NE Poland/Lithuania/Belarus region to Ukraine, so they
might have lived in one place and moved to another.


Translation of the Polish word "szpektor" #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Genners:

Does anybody know a translation for the profession that reads in Polish
as szpektora (for a man) or szpektarow (for a woman)? I was stumped by
this word which appears for two individuals on my great-grandparent's
marriage registration; it did not appear in several Polish dictionaries,
and several native Polish speakers have told me that there is no such
word. (One even remarked, "I read Nowy Dziennik every day, but I've never
seen that word.)

I found the word "szpektor" translated as teacher's assistant at
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/pl-occ.txt, but is this actually an
arcane term for something different? Or does anybody have a reference for
the Jewish Gen translation?

Thanks, everybody.

Ira Leviton, New York, N.Y.

searching for LEWITAN (Rypin and Myszyniec, Pol.), NIEDOBITEK (Rypin,
Pol.), BLANK, STRICK, KORN, REBHUN, REPHAN, RAPHAN, (all >from Niedzwiada,
Mala, Debica, Rzemien, Mielec, Gorlice, and Ropczyce, Pol.), and ATLAS
(Wien/Vienna, Austria)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Translation of the Polish word "szpektor" #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Genners:

Does anybody know a translation for the profession that reads in Polish
as szpektora (for a man) or szpektarow (for a woman)? I was stumped by
this word which appears for two individuals on my great-grandparent's
marriage registration; it did not appear in several Polish dictionaries,
and several native Polish speakers have told me that there is no such
word. (One even remarked, "I read Nowy Dziennik every day, but I've never
seen that word.)

I found the word "szpektor" translated as teacher's assistant at
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/pl-occ.txt, but is this actually an
arcane term for something different? Or does anybody have a reference for
the Jewish Gen translation?

Thanks, everybody.

Ira Leviton, New York, N.Y.

searching for LEWITAN (Rypin and Myszyniec, Pol.), NIEDOBITEK (Rypin,
Pol.), BLANK, STRICK, KORN, REBHUN, REPHAN, RAPHAN, (all >from Niedzwiada,
Mala, Debica, Rzemien, Mielec, Gorlice, and Ropczyce, Pol.), and ATLAS
(Wien/Vienna, Austria)


H-SIG Luncheon Update #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

There's still time to sign up for the H-SIG Luncheon at the IAJGS=20
Conference on Thursday, July 24 at the Marriott Hotel. Tickets ($25=20
each) can be purchased during registration or added later. A Kosher=20
option is available.

I'm pleased to announce that Peter Lande of the US Holocaust Memorial=20
Museum will be our guest speaker. Peter Land=E9 has written and =
lectured=20
extensively on the fate of European Jews in the Holocaust. In July=20
2001 he received a Lifetime Achievement Award >from the International=20
Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies for his work in=20
identifying sources of information on Holocaust victims and survivors. =20=

Over the past ten years Peter has traveled widely in Europe collecting=20=

lists of Holocaust victims and survivors. He will talk to us about=20
the resources that are available for research on Hungarian victims and=20=

survivors including advice on finding Hungarian names in non-Hungarian=20=

documents.

Vivian


Re: [h-sig] SCHWARZ from Pezinok - Bösing - #hungary

Calman Lieberman <clieberman@...>
 

To the Shonbergers:
Just to inform that there is now progress in building a concrete gate around the cemetery since the old one is total ruined. Also we will try to stand up the thombstones that are still there.
for additional information please write privet to:
hfjewishcemeteries@...
Calman Lieberman
--------------------------------------------------------------
My gg-grandfather Max SCHWARZ was born 30 Nov 1853 in Pezinok. His parents were Lazar SCHWARZ (1804-1870) and Cecilia PALLAK (b. 10 Feb 1828 Bratislava - 13 Apr 1909 Vienna). Lazar's father was Jiske GLASER.

E. Randol Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA