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Jewish Cemeteries in & around South Fallsburg, New York #general

Robert & Ena Jacobs <enabob@...>
 

Hello Fellow Genners:

Can anyone advise me of any Jewish Cemeteries that are located in and
around South Fallsburg, New York? I recently learnt that an ancestor of
mine died in South Fallsburg in 1983 - if possible, would like learn where
she is buried, and hopefully retrieve further data on her and this branch
of my family.

Name: Beckie (Rebecca) nee GREENBLATT KARON
dob: 30 Aug 1895 dod: Jan 1983
I have been researching my GREENBLATT family for many years.
Origins Russia, to England, to New York in 1912, settled in Bronx, N.Y.
Please reply privately - In appreciation -

Ena nee SCHWALBE/SELBY JACOBS
Born in London, England - emigrated to New York, now in California, U.S.
EnaBob@worldnet.att.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Cemeteries in & around South Fallsburg, New York #general

Robert & Ena Jacobs <enabob@...>
 

Hello Fellow Genners:

Can anyone advise me of any Jewish Cemeteries that are located in and
around South Fallsburg, New York? I recently learnt that an ancestor of
mine died in South Fallsburg in 1983 - if possible, would like learn where
she is buried, and hopefully retrieve further data on her and this branch
of my family.

Name: Beckie (Rebecca) nee GREENBLATT KARON
dob: 30 Aug 1895 dod: Jan 1983
I have been researching my GREENBLATT family for many years.
Origins Russia, to England, to New York in 1912, settled in Bronx, N.Y.
Please reply privately - In appreciation -

Ena nee SCHWALBE/SELBY JACOBS
Born in London, England - emigrated to New York, now in California, U.S.
EnaBob@worldnet.att.net


Follow up on Saul Wernow / Zalmen Wornowitzky, more handwriting help #general

jeremy wernow <jeremy_wernow@...>
 

I have received some very interesting emails >from everyone regarding my
previous post about finding my uncle Saul Wernow. I stated that I have
Saul's petition for naturalization but I can not find his Ellis Island
files. I did, however, find an entry for a Zalmen Wornowitzky >from
Zornicz (Russia, Ukraine) who arrived in 1905 at age 32. Although Saul
Wernow is probably an anglicized version of this name, I am not convinced
this is my uncle (although it is likely a cousin).

The age listed is 20 years to high, Saul was 10 or 11 when he arrived. I
also do not know much about Zornicz yet. Now, this is where I turn to the
news group for help. Once again, there is notation in the ellisisland.org
scanned ledger that I can not read. At the end of the line, in the notes,
I can make out "Cousin Max", "141-143" and "New York". Cousin Max has a
last name that I can not read, and I do not know what appears
between "141-143" and "New York". Once again, any help would be
appreciated. Please respond offline. Thanks again

Jeremy Wernow
Reston, VA

Looking for
WERNOW, WARNOW, WORNOW, WORNOWITZKY, VORNOVITSKY (from
Russia, Ukraine, Kiev, Monastyrishche, Podolia, Uman)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Follow up on Saul Wernow / Zalmen Wornowitzky, more handwriting help #general

jeremy wernow <jeremy_wernow@...>
 

I have received some very interesting emails >from everyone regarding my
previous post about finding my uncle Saul Wernow. I stated that I have
Saul's petition for naturalization but I can not find his Ellis Island
files. I did, however, find an entry for a Zalmen Wornowitzky >from
Zornicz (Russia, Ukraine) who arrived in 1905 at age 32. Although Saul
Wernow is probably an anglicized version of this name, I am not convinced
this is my uncle (although it is likely a cousin).

The age listed is 20 years to high, Saul was 10 or 11 when he arrived. I
also do not know much about Zornicz yet. Now, this is where I turn to the
news group for help. Once again, there is notation in the ellisisland.org
scanned ledger that I can not read. At the end of the line, in the notes,
I can make out "Cousin Max", "141-143" and "New York". Cousin Max has a
last name that I can not read, and I do not know what appears
between "141-143" and "New York". Once again, any help would be
appreciated. Please respond offline. Thanks again

Jeremy Wernow
Reston, VA

Looking for
WERNOW, WARNOW, WORNOW, WORNOWITZKY, VORNOVITSKY (from
Russia, Ukraine, Kiev, Monastyrishche, Podolia, Uman)


Search for SILVERSTEIN Family from London #general

Daniel Gee <DanielGee@...>
 

Dear Genners,

Do you know of a SILVERSTEIN family with a London connection?

I am looking for decendants of Milly, Isaac, Simon, Myer, Isidore & Sophia.
These SILVERSTEIN kids were all born in London's Brick Lane in the 1900s
to Russian-born parents, Jacob and Sarah SILVERSTEIN.

The eldest child Milly was married to Nathan SACK and died aged just 30.
Some of these children may be buried in Edmonton Federation Cemetery.

Thank you for your help.

Yours sincerely,
Daniel Gleek in London.


MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Search for SILVERSTEIN Family from London #general

Daniel Gee <DanielGee@...>
 

Dear Genners,

Do you know of a SILVERSTEIN family with a London connection?

I am looking for decendants of Milly, Isaac, Simon, Myer, Isidore & Sophia.
These SILVERSTEIN kids were all born in London's Brick Lane in the 1900s
to Russian-born parents, Jacob and Sarah SILVERSTEIN.

The eldest child Milly was married to Nathan SACK and died aged just 30.
Some of these children may be buried in Edmonton Federation Cemetery.

Thank you for your help.

Yours sincerely,
Daniel Gleek in London.


MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately.


Lack of Country #general

Robert Fraser <rwfgjf@...>
 

Dear Genners -

Yes, it's been said before many times, but - please, please, would posters
please remember that not all readers are >from the USA and many are not
native English speakers. A message saying, for example, "My grandfather
came here at the age of 10 >from Hotzplotz" tells us nothing. If you do not
give minimum information, how can you expect useful and meaningful
responses?

Also, when quoting addresses - Wazoo City, VA may be understandable to US
readers. It may even be understandable to Australians. But it may mean
nothing to a non-native English speaker >from Russia or Brazil.

When composing a message, please bear in mind that we don't all know what
you know and what you think we know.

Shabbat Shalom

Robert W Fraser
Dianella, Western Australia
rwfgjf@iinet.net.au


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lack of Country #general

Robert Fraser <rwfgjf@...>
 

Dear Genners -

Yes, it's been said before many times, but - please, please, would posters
please remember that not all readers are >from the USA and many are not
native English speakers. A message saying, for example, "My grandfather
came here at the age of 10 >from Hotzplotz" tells us nothing. If you do not
give minimum information, how can you expect useful and meaningful
responses?

Also, when quoting addresses - Wazoo City, VA may be understandable to US
readers. It may even be understandable to Australians. But it may mean
nothing to a non-native English speaker >from Russia or Brazil.

When composing a message, please bear in mind that we don't all know what
you know and what you think we know.

Shabbat Shalom

Robert W Fraser
Dianella, Western Australia
rwfgjf@iinet.net.au


Looking from SZANC/SANCZ/SCHANTZ (or similar) or STECHER from Jata in Poland. #general

Mario Stecher
 

Does anybody have any information about Jakub Shantz/Sancz/Szanc or
similar? He was married with Chaja Stecher around 1910/1930. Then, they
went to live to Sokolow Malopolsky.
Thanks.

Mario Stecher
http://www.swya.com.ar/stecherfamilytree/index.htm

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking from SZANC/SANCZ/SCHANTZ (or similar) or STECHER from Jata in Poland. #general

Mario Stecher
 

Does anybody have any information about Jakub Shantz/Sancz/Szanc or
similar? He was married with Chaja Stecher around 1910/1930. Then, they
went to live to Sokolow Malopolsky.
Thanks.

Mario Stecher
http://www.swya.com.ar/stecherfamilytree/index.htm

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately.


Canadian Immigration Question #general

Shawn Weil <weil.17@...>
 

List-

I am trying to locate the immigration records of a Solomon Fibish. He
emigrated >from Romania to Barre, Vermont via Canada. The 'Certificate of
Arrival' included with his naturalization papers indicated:

Port of: Montreal, Canada
Name: Schlome Favish
Date: Aug 9, 1906
Vessel: Grand Trunk Railway

I've looked him up in the St. Alban's list index, but could find neither
him, his wife (Dora/Gohres), nor his two children (Jennie and Nat) who
arrived 1 year later. I can look him up by date, but I fear he will not
be there. Am I looking in the wrong place?

Shawn Weil
Columbus, OH

WEIL, WAHL, WOHL, ABRAMOWITZ >from Dzikow (Tarnebrzeg), Poland
TELLES, TELEFUS, and FISHERMAN >from Khotin, Ukraine; Israel
BIRNBERG, >from Medzhibozh and Khotin, Ukraine; UK; Argentina;
GOLDER, MOSKOWITZ, LIEBOWITZ, FIBISH >from Romania; Brazil; Israel
BROITMAN, DARISH >from Ukraine; GLANTZ, LAMPERT >from Philadelphia, PA;
http://www.tangerinecrafts.com/Personal/genealogy.htm


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Canadian Immigration Question #general

Shawn Weil <weil.17@...>
 

List-

I am trying to locate the immigration records of a Solomon Fibish. He
emigrated >from Romania to Barre, Vermont via Canada. The 'Certificate of
Arrival' included with his naturalization papers indicated:

Port of: Montreal, Canada
Name: Schlome Favish
Date: Aug 9, 1906
Vessel: Grand Trunk Railway

I've looked him up in the St. Alban's list index, but could find neither
him, his wife (Dora/Gohres), nor his two children (Jennie and Nat) who
arrived 1 year later. I can look him up by date, but I fear he will not
be there. Am I looking in the wrong place?

Shawn Weil
Columbus, OH

WEIL, WAHL, WOHL, ABRAMOWITZ >from Dzikow (Tarnebrzeg), Poland
TELLES, TELEFUS, and FISHERMAN >from Khotin, Ukraine; Israel
BIRNBERG, >from Medzhibozh and Khotin, Ukraine; UK; Argentina;
GOLDER, MOSKOWITZ, LIEBOWITZ, FIBISH >from Romania; Brazil; Israel
BROITMAN, DARISH >from Ukraine; GLANTZ, LAMPERT >from Philadelphia, PA;
http://www.tangerinecrafts.com/Personal/genealogy.htm


Re: Given name "Owsey" #general

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz <idayosef@...>
 

Probably Yehoshua.
Ida

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Orlen [mailto:sorlen@email.arizona.edu]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 6:16 PM
To: JewishGen Discussion Group
Subject: Given name "Owsey"

Dear Cousins,

A relative of mine immigrated >from Trakai, Lithuania, in 1907. His given
name on the manifest & passenger record is "Owsey." Last name ADELSOHN.
Though it's a good joke on him, what might that be a misspelling of?

He later became Samuel ADELSON, and lived in Holyoke, Massachusetts.

Unless it's useful for other genners, please reply privately to
sorlen@u.arizona.edu

Best,
Steve Orlen
Tucson, Arizona
mailto:sorlen@email.arizona.edu


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Given name "Owsey" #general

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz <idayosef@...>
 

Probably Yehoshua.
Ida

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Orlen [mailto:sorlen@email.arizona.edu]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 6:16 PM
To: JewishGen Discussion Group
Subject: Given name "Owsey"

Dear Cousins,

A relative of mine immigrated >from Trakai, Lithuania, in 1907. His given
name on the manifest & passenger record is "Owsey." Last name ADELSOHN.
Though it's a good joke on him, what might that be a misspelling of?

He later became Samuel ADELSON, and lived in Holyoke, Massachusetts.

Unless it's useful for other genners, please reply privately to
sorlen@u.arizona.edu

Best,
Steve Orlen
Tucson, Arizona
mailto:sorlen@email.arizona.edu


Re: Given name "Owsey" #general

Alan <ashuchat@...>
 

In article
< 5.1.1.6.0.20030619091101.00a89d90@sorlen.inbox.email.arizona.edu>,
Steve Orlen < sorlen@email.arizona.edu> wrote:

A relative of mine immigrated >from Trakai, Lithuania, in 1907. His given
name on the manifest & passenger record is "Owsey." Last name ADELSOHN.
Though it's a good joke on him, what might that be a misspelling of?
It's not a misspelling. "Ovsey" is on the list of Ashkenazic first names at

http://www.avotaynu.com/books/dagnlist.htm

taken >from Alexander Beider's book. I've seen Ovsey as a Jewish first name
in Russian records >from the early 20th century.

Alan Shuchat
ashuchat@wellesley.edu
---
Researching:
SHUCHAT (Talnoye, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta)
VINOKUR (Talnoye)
KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
SILVERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets)
BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolski)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Given name "Owsey" #general

Alan <ashuchat@...>
 

In article
< 5.1.1.6.0.20030619091101.00a89d90@sorlen.inbox.email.arizona.edu>,
Steve Orlen < sorlen@email.arizona.edu> wrote:

A relative of mine immigrated >from Trakai, Lithuania, in 1907. His given
name on the manifest & passenger record is "Owsey." Last name ADELSOHN.
Though it's a good joke on him, what might that be a misspelling of?
It's not a misspelling. "Ovsey" is on the list of Ashkenazic first names at

http://www.avotaynu.com/books/dagnlist.htm

taken >from Alexander Beider's book. I've seen Ovsey as a Jewish first name
in Russian records >from the early 20th century.

Alan Shuchat
ashuchat@wellesley.edu
---
Researching:
SHUCHAT (Talnoye, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta)
VINOKUR (Talnoye)
KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
SILVERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets)
BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolski)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)


Re: INS Response to Requests for FOIA Documents #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Sheldon,

You asked whether it was worth asking the INS for information again
because their initial because you requested six files, and if I understood
your posting correctly, you got useful responses only for three.

Here is my brief recount of an experience requesting files, and
although my request was >from the U.S. Navy's Personnel Office in St.
Louis, it can happen with any government agency. The personal details of
my relative are unimportant, only that the rest of the family lost track
of him 50 years ago, I'm now trying to find him or his grave, and he was
in the Navy in the 1940's so I'm trying to search for him via that route.

About two years ago I wrote to the Navy Personnel Office, giving them
every bit of specific information that I had, such as name, birthdate,
birthplace, etc. Since it was not my top genealogical priority, I let one
year pass without any reply before sending a copy of the same letter.
Another year went by, and I finally received a letter signed by a
"specialist" in the personnel office saying that based on the information
I supplied, they had no information on the individual I was seeking. Less
than ten days later, I received another letter (signed by another
specialist) along his entire personnel file, including a copy of a
photograph and instructions for contacting the proper Veterans
Administration office that holds personnel file, whether or not it's still
active. (I still don't know whether my first or second letter was
answered first, and I haven't heard back >from the VA.)

So, yes it's worth writing again -- you can only lose a little time and
a postage stamp. Be specific as possible with the information, and also
tell them as much as possible. The quality of the search depends on the
quality and motivation of the person doing it, as well as their available
time, and often they will respond only exactly according to your
directions, so don't be too specific with those. For example, in the case
of the INS, if you ask for "citizenship papers," they won't necessarily
give you the declaration of intent -- ask them for any and all paperwork
they have.
I hope this helps. Good luck.

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.

searching for LEWITAN (Rypin and Myszyniec, Pol.), NIEDOBITEK (Rypin,
Pol.), BLANK, STRICK, KORN, REBHUN, REPHAN, RAPHAN, (all >from Niedzwiada,
Mala, Debica, Rzemien, Mielec, Gorlice and Ropczyce, Pol.), and ATLAS
(Wien/Vienna, Austria)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: INS Response to Requests for FOIA Documents #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Sheldon,

You asked whether it was worth asking the INS for information again
because their initial because you requested six files, and if I understood
your posting correctly, you got useful responses only for three.

Here is my brief recount of an experience requesting files, and
although my request was >from the U.S. Navy's Personnel Office in St.
Louis, it can happen with any government agency. The personal details of
my relative are unimportant, only that the rest of the family lost track
of him 50 years ago, I'm now trying to find him or his grave, and he was
in the Navy in the 1940's so I'm trying to search for him via that route.

About two years ago I wrote to the Navy Personnel Office, giving them
every bit of specific information that I had, such as name, birthdate,
birthplace, etc. Since it was not my top genealogical priority, I let one
year pass without any reply before sending a copy of the same letter.
Another year went by, and I finally received a letter signed by a
"specialist" in the personnel office saying that based on the information
I supplied, they had no information on the individual I was seeking. Less
than ten days later, I received another letter (signed by another
specialist) along his entire personnel file, including a copy of a
photograph and instructions for contacting the proper Veterans
Administration office that holds personnel file, whether or not it's still
active. (I still don't know whether my first or second letter was
answered first, and I haven't heard back >from the VA.)

So, yes it's worth writing again -- you can only lose a little time and
a postage stamp. Be specific as possible with the information, and also
tell them as much as possible. The quality of the search depends on the
quality and motivation of the person doing it, as well as their available
time, and often they will respond only exactly according to your
directions, so don't be too specific with those. For example, in the case
of the INS, if you ask for "citizenship papers," they won't necessarily
give you the declaration of intent -- ask them for any and all paperwork
they have.
I hope this helps. Good luck.

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.

searching for LEWITAN (Rypin and Myszyniec, Pol.), NIEDOBITEK (Rypin,
Pol.), BLANK, STRICK, KORN, REBHUN, REPHAN, RAPHAN, (all >from Niedzwiada,
Mala, Debica, Rzemien, Mielec, Gorlice and Ropczyce, Pol.), and ATLAS
(Wien/Vienna, Austria)


Re: Chodecz, Poland [Chodziecz] #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Chava Agmon" wrote

Greetings to Jill,

As with many other place names in Eastern Europe,this one too has had its
name changed to Kolmar in northern Poznan of Poland.(Not even a
resemblance to the original.)

Chava Agmon - Caro Family Research
Email: havahug@barak-online.net
Chava,

I believe that very close resemblance of two towns names is the source of
the confusion. Polish named town Chodziesen in Poznan (Posen) region has
been renamed to Prussian Kolmar in 1886. Following the end of WWII and
redrawing countries maps, town has been re-renamed to Polish Chodzez,
pron. [Kho dzheh zh].

Chodecz [Kho dech] is a different town located in Wloclawek area of the
historical Polish Kujawy region.

--
Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab.


Ships Minerva and British Queen #general

Stanley Judd <stanleyjudd@...>
 

In the 'Hamburg Passengers >from the Kingdom of Poland' I found members of
my BRILLIANT family:

Samuel and Chane Brilliant on the Minerva arriving 5/5/1871 in NYC
Taube, Sarah and Freda Brilliant on the British Queen arriving 6/21/1870 in
NYC

I sent this information to NARA in Washington DC, requesting copies of the
arrival records. They responded they could not find these ships. I have
looked at all the online sources I know of and could not find them.

I would appreciate suggestions on where do I go >from here?

Stan
Stanley H. Judd
Los Altos Hills, CA
Searching JUDELOWITZ/YUDELOWITZ, BRILLIANT, JANKOWSKY, ROTCHILD, BAER
Locations northern Lithuania and Latvia