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Re: Town Name/Sneezes #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 8/5/2003 7:38:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
yknow@... writes:

<< Ros Romem wrote:
A friend/distant family remembers the name of his mother's shtetl/town
as "sounds like a lot of sneezes" .... seriously. It could be anything
but as it may help me find my own family I am curious to have your
suggestions.>

I think you would have to know what onomatopoeia your family associates
with a sneeze. In American English, a sneeze, is 'Achoo', but in Hebrew,
for instance, a sneeze is "Haptchoo (with a hard H)". I assume that other
dialects have their own interpretation of the sound of a sneeze! >>

==I agree. In some countries people would probably sneeze Chechen (in the
Caucasus), others Szczecin (named Stettin under German rule). Polish has
enough s, z and c's to make many towns and villages sound like a sneeze,
just as Germany has enough ch and ck's to sound like a cough.

But the basic question is nothing to sneeze at. Perhaps someone will
cough up a solution.

Michael Bernet, New York
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Town Name/Sneezes #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 8/5/2003 7:38:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
yknow@... writes:

<< Ros Romem wrote:
A friend/distant family remembers the name of his mother's shtetl/town
as "sounds like a lot of sneezes" .... seriously. It could be anything
but as it may help me find my own family I am curious to have your
suggestions.>

I think you would have to know what onomatopoeia your family associates
with a sneeze. In American English, a sneeze, is 'Achoo', but in Hebrew,
for instance, a sneeze is "Haptchoo (with a hard H)". I assume that other
dialects have their own interpretation of the sound of a sneeze! >>

==I agree. In some countries people would probably sneeze Chechen (in the
Caucasus), others Szczecin (named Stettin under German rule). Polish has
enough s, z and c's to make many towns and villages sound like a sneeze,
just as Germany has enough ch and ck's to sound like a cough.

But the basic question is nothing to sneeze at. Perhaps someone will
cough up a solution.

Michael Bernet, New York
Re: Place name quandry #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Ros Romem wrote:

Dear Genners,

At the risk of sounding silly may I run this one by you. A friend/distant
family remembers the name of his mother's shtetl/town as "sounds like a
lot of sneezes" .... seriously. It could be anything but as it may help
me find my own family I am curious to have your suggestions. I presume in
Poland or more likely Lithuania but I am not sure.
Thanks
Ros Romem
A challenging puzzle, indeed. Lot of sneezes?

couple of long sneezes

Pszemyslany [pshe mee shlanee] and Przemysl [pshe meeshl]


And few short once:
Ushch (Ustye)
Ishtcha or Oztza (Ujscie Zielone

A Gitte Gezundeik,

Alexander Sharon
Calgary
Levitical FRIEDMAN Family #general

Dream Builder <dreambuilder@...>
 

I am looking for information about Levitical FRIEDMANs >from the Russian
Empire to New York City, NY, USA.

Vicki Ina Friedman
Ball Ground, GA, USA
dreambuilder@...

Researching: BECK, CHORNEY, DUBIN(SKY), FRIEDMAN, LISANSKY, RECHMAN,
SK(O)LOFF, THURLIN / TURCHIN, ZEIDELMAN (Russian Empire to United States
approx. 1880-1910)
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Place name quandry #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Ros Romem wrote:

Dear Genners,

At the risk of sounding silly may I run this one by you. A friend/distant
family remembers the name of his mother's shtetl/town as "sounds like a
lot of sneezes" .... seriously. It could be anything but as it may help
me find my own family I am curious to have your suggestions. I presume in
Poland or more likely Lithuania but I am not sure.
Thanks
Ros Romem
A challenging puzzle, indeed. Lot of sneezes?

couple of long sneezes

Pszemyslany [pshe mee shlanee] and Przemysl [pshe meeshl]


And few short once:
Ushch (Ustye)
Ishtcha or Oztza (Ujscie Zielone

A Gitte Gezundeik,

Alexander Sharon
Calgary
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Levitical FRIEDMAN Family #general

Dream Builder <dreambuilder@...>
 

I am looking for information about Levitical FRIEDMANs >from the Russian
Empire to New York City, NY, USA.

Vicki Ina Friedman
Ball Ground, GA, USA
dreambuilder@...

Researching: BECK, CHORNEY, DUBIN(SKY), FRIEDMAN, LISANSKY, RECHMAN,
SK(O)LOFF, THURLIN / TURCHIN, ZEIDELMAN (Russian Empire to United States
approx. 1880-1910)
REIS in Brazil #general

the5reeds <the5reeds@...>
 

Today as I was driving in Daly City, I noticed that
the pick-up truck in front of me had an advertisement
on the back for the owner who does hauling. It said
"Ari Reis".

I followed the truck until it stopped and got out to
speak to the driver. He was Ari Reiss. I asked him if
he knew where his Reis family was from. He had no
idea. His father was born in Brazil. Ari was not
Jewish, but had been told before that his first name
was Hebrew. This man looked like he was in his
thirties. He told me that his father had died when he
was only 42 and Ari was only 9 months old, and that
his grandfather was long deceased. He was aware that
his Reis side was probably originally Jewish. He was
unsure of when his family emigrated to Brazil.

My grandmother was a REISS, which is why I was
interested. Any other Reis researchers out there
looking for countries to which their family may have
emigrated might check Brazil. (Not that I could tell
you how to do this!)

Regards,
Victoria Reed
San Francisco
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen REIS in Brazil #general

the5reeds <the5reeds@...>
 

Today as I was driving in Daly City, I noticed that
the pick-up truck in front of me had an advertisement
on the back for the owner who does hauling. It said
"Ari Reis".

I followed the truck until it stopped and got out to
speak to the driver. He was Ari Reiss. I asked him if
he knew where his Reis family was from. He had no
idea. His father was born in Brazil. Ari was not
Jewish, but had been told before that his first name
was Hebrew. This man looked like he was in his
thirties. He told me that his father had died when he
was only 42 and Ari was only 9 months old, and that
his grandfather was long deceased. He was aware that
his Reis side was probably originally Jewish. He was
unsure of when his family emigrated to Brazil.

My grandmother was a REISS, which is why I was
interested. Any other Reis researchers out there
looking for countries to which their family may have
emigrated might check Brazil. (Not that I could tell
you how to do this!)

Regards,
Victoria Reed
San Francisco
Re: English name for Ima #general

MBernet@...
 

mglow@... wrote:

" . . . he lists as one of his children "Ima." I know, in Hebrew ima
means mother. Can anyone help solve this mystery?"

==It's not a name listed in the Random House cd-rom dictionary, but I have
heard it used as a name in both UK and USA, pronounced "eye-mah." My USA-
born wife of Litta ancestry, educated at Yeshiva of Flatbush, said she was
quite familiar with the name Ima.

==A search on Ima at amazon.com brought up 234 books. One third had to do
with Japanese culture or were in Japanese, over half referred to books and
reports on very esoteric mathematics. There were about a score of authors
with that name, half of them were obvious pseudonyms (Ima Vailable, Ima
Hogg, Ima Peeper), but there was also a significant number of "real"
sounding names of authors named Ima, and I assume the pseudonym would not
be chosen unless that first name sounded "real."

On the other hand, a name akin to Mother is not uncommon. My grandmother's
twin, Mathilde (b. Frankfurt 1867, of centuries-old German-Jewish stock)
was called Mammele in her family. Beider suggests the Mammele name among
Jews has both Arabic-Sfardi origins in Maymuna (no connection with
mother), and Bohemian origins (in a Slavic word for mother).

Moreover, the term Ima for mother appears to be a recent Israeli usage
based on the Aramaic word for mother (the Hebrew word is Em) and I doubt
that it was used by Ashkenazi Jews in Europe when referring to someone's
mother, except perhaps among those who received a "modern Hebrew"
education in the 1920s and 1930s, e.g. in Vilna and a few other cities.

Overall, I think the Ima name is quite as plausible as an American name
as, say, Amy.

Michael Bernet, New York
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: English name for Ima #general

MBernet@...
 

mglow@... wrote:

" . . . he lists as one of his children "Ima." I know, in Hebrew ima
means mother. Can anyone help solve this mystery?"

==It's not a name listed in the Random House cd-rom dictionary, but I have
heard it used as a name in both UK and USA, pronounced "eye-mah." My USA-
born wife of Litta ancestry, educated at Yeshiva of Flatbush, said she was
quite familiar with the name Ima.

==A search on Ima at amazon.com brought up 234 books. One third had to do
with Japanese culture or were in Japanese, over half referred to books and
reports on very esoteric mathematics. There were about a score of authors
with that name, half of them were obvious pseudonyms (Ima Vailable, Ima
Hogg, Ima Peeper), but there was also a significant number of "real"
sounding names of authors named Ima, and I assume the pseudonym would not
be chosen unless that first name sounded "real."

On the other hand, a name akin to Mother is not uncommon. My grandmother's
twin, Mathilde (b. Frankfurt 1867, of centuries-old German-Jewish stock)
was called Mammele in her family. Beider suggests the Mammele name among
Jews has both Arabic-Sfardi origins in Maymuna (no connection with
mother), and Bohemian origins (in a Slavic word for mother).

Moreover, the term Ima for mother appears to be a recent Israeli usage
based on the Aramaic word for mother (the Hebrew word is Em) and I doubt
that it was used by Ashkenazi Jews in Europe when referring to someone's
mother, except perhaps among those who received a "modern Hebrew"
education in the 1920s and 1930s, e.g. in Vilna and a few other cities.

Overall, I think the Ima name is quite as plausible as an American name
as, say, Amy.

Michael Bernet, New York
Researching Caplan Married to a Rambach #general

Eeblecker@...
 

Is there anyone out there researching a CAPLAN, who married a RAMBACH or
anyone there researching the name Rambach? If so, I may have answers to
questions you may have if your family originally came >from Lithuania.
Please answer personally.
Eunice Blecker
Potomac, Maryland
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Researching Caplan Married to a Rambach #general

Eeblecker@...
 

Is there anyone out there researching a CAPLAN, who married a RAMBACH or
anyone there researching the name Rambach? If so, I may have answers to
questions you may have if your family originally came >from Lithuania.
Please answer personally.
Eunice Blecker
Potomac, Maryland
BING in Urbana, IL, USA #general

Naomi Teveth <ntevet@...>
 

Dear friends,

I am searching for possible descendants of

Louis (Lewis) BING, b. 1862 in Illinois, d. 1923
and his wife
Sarah nee LOEB, b. 1868 in Attica, IN, d. 1963 in Urbana, IL

Louis was the son of Jonas and Bertha BING, both >from Darmstadt in Hessen.
Sarah was the daugher of Simon LOEB and Bienchen nee LEUCHT, both born in
Germany as well.

Louis and Sarah BING are buried in Champaign, IL.

On the Urbana-Champaign Jewish Community website, the father Jonas is noted
as pioneer who came to Urbana in 1857.

I have tried to contact Dr. Sheila Goldberg who apparently is the president
of the Champaign-Urbana Jewish Genealogy Group, but the e-mail address is
not correct.

If you have this BING family on your family tree or know something about
them, I would be very pleased to hear >from you.

Best regards,
Naomi Teveth in Tel Aviv ntevet@...
Re: Izidor & Israel, Thank you! #general

Mary B
 

I want to thank all of you for the helpful information you have given
me. Thank you for taking the time with this small question, I was
overwhelmed! It seems that it is very *likely* the same person. But
I want to emphasize that this person never emigrated >from Slovakia to an
English speaking country. Izidor must have been his secular name in his
own country.

Mary Blumenstein
Melbourne, Australia

The following is >from Michael Bernet:

==As one who responded with information on the topic who has not "agreed
that this is one and the same person," I believe I have the right to a
demurrer.

==a little correction is in place. There is no direct connection between
Israel and Izidor (or the more common spellings Isidor[e] and Isador).
One is a Hebrew Biblical name and means "Prevailed in a struggle with God"
and the other is a Greek name meaning "Gift of the Egyprian god Isis."

==The best we can say is that Isador etc was often a name used by someone
named Israel in Hebrew. Isador could as easily have been Isaac, and
Israel could as easily have been Ignatz. If you have other supporting
evidence to link the two, there is no reason to think that the two names
could not have applied to the same person.

==Please fwd this message to the others who received your current
message, so that nobody be be misled.

Thanks

Michael Bernet, New York
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BING in Urbana, IL, USA #general

Naomi Teveth <ntevet@...>
 

Dear friends,

I am searching for possible descendants of

Louis (Lewis) BING, b. 1862 in Illinois, d. 1923
and his wife
Sarah nee LOEB, b. 1868 in Attica, IN, d. 1963 in Urbana, IL

Louis was the son of Jonas and Bertha BING, both >from Darmstadt in Hessen.
Sarah was the daugher of Simon LOEB and Bienchen nee LEUCHT, both born in
Germany as well.

Louis and Sarah BING are buried in Champaign, IL.

On the Urbana-Champaign Jewish Community website, the father Jonas is noted
as pioneer who came to Urbana in 1857.

I have tried to contact Dr. Sheila Goldberg who apparently is the president
of the Champaign-Urbana Jewish Genealogy Group, but the e-mail address is
not correct.

If you have this BING family on your family tree or know something about
them, I would be very pleased to hear >from you.

Best regards,
Naomi Teveth in Tel Aviv ntevet@...
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Izidor & Israel, Thank you! #general

Mary B
 

I want to thank all of you for the helpful information you have given
me. Thank you for taking the time with this small question, I was
overwhelmed! It seems that it is very *likely* the same person. But
I want to emphasize that this person never emigrated >from Slovakia to an
English speaking country. Izidor must have been his secular name in his
own country.

Mary Blumenstein
Melbourne, Australia

The following is >from Michael Bernet:

==As one who responded with information on the topic who has not "agreed
that this is one and the same person," I believe I have the right to a
demurrer.

==a little correction is in place. There is no direct connection between
Israel and Izidor (or the more common spellings Isidor[e] and Isador).
One is a Hebrew Biblical name and means "Prevailed in a struggle with God"
and the other is a Greek name meaning "Gift of the Egyprian god Isis."

==The best we can say is that Isador etc was often a name used by someone
named Israel in Hebrew. Isador could as easily have been Isaac, and
Israel could as easily have been Ignatz. If you have other supporting
evidence to link the two, there is no reason to think that the two names
could not have applied to the same person.

==Please fwd this message to the others who received your current
message, so that nobody be be misled.

Thanks

Michael Bernet, New York
B'nai Jacob Cemetery New Haven, CT #general

Arthur N. Feinberg <feinber2@...>
 

Dear Genners:

I would be eternally grateful if any of our readers lived near the old
B'nai Jacob Cemetery in New Haven CT on Wayley Rd. and would be willing to
find a stone there. It's a long story why I am so interested, and I will be
glad to bore you with it if you are so inclined. Please respond privately.
I will be glad to pay any freight and would even make a donation to
JewishGen in your honor.

Thanks.

--- Arthur N. Feinberg
--- feinber2@...
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen B'nai Jacob Cemetery New Haven, CT #general

Arthur N. Feinberg <feinber2@...>
 

Dear Genners:

I would be eternally grateful if any of our readers lived near the old
B'nai Jacob Cemetery in New Haven CT on Wayley Rd. and would be willing to
find a stone there. It's a long story why I am so interested, and I will be
glad to bore you with it if you are so inclined. Please respond privately.
I will be glad to pay any freight and would even make a donation to
JewishGen in your honor.

Thanks.

--- Arthur N. Feinberg
--- feinber2@...
Re: The SEGAL name and Levites #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

Stan Goodman <safeqSPAM_FOILER@...> wrote:

It is only slightly off-topic to note that, had more of the Levites
chosen to adopt the SEGAL surname, John Wayne would have appeared in
movie westerns wearing segals rather than levis.
<chuckle>

But no, because it was Levi Strauss's first name, not
his surname. Actually, his original first name was Loeb, which he
changed to Levi after immigrating to the US, according to
<http://www.levistrauss.com/about/history/denim.htm>

Robert Israel israel@...
Vancouver, BC, Canada
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The SEGAL name and Levites #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

Stan Goodman <safeqSPAM_FOILER@...> wrote:

It is only slightly off-topic to note that, had more of the Levites
chosen to adopt the SEGAL surname, John Wayne would have appeared in
movie westerns wearing segals rather than levis.
<chuckle>

But no, because it was Levi Strauss's first name, not
his surname. Actually, his original first name was Loeb, which he
changed to Levi after immigrating to the US, according to
<http://www.levistrauss.com/about/history/denim.htm>

Robert Israel israel@...
Vancouver, BC, Canada
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