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Re: New year new book [oversight corrected] #germany

Udi Cain
 

Dear All,

We have had discussions in the past regarding the origin of Prussian Jews
from Spain. The matter constantly occupied my attention, since I had
received verbal confirmation >from within the family to this fact for a long
time. And now, not only did I find good material published in Germany in
the 1920s, but I also asked a specialist, a doctor of history who deals with
the Sephardi Jews, to look into the matter . I am happy to say that the new
book contains an article which covers that very subject, as well as material
from old genealogical research books.
Up till now, I have received over 50 orders for the book about families and
communities of the province of Posen, Prussia. The price for the book, $15,

involves no financial profit and barely covers cost.

Best regards, Udi Cain, Jerusalem.

MODERATOR NOTE: I have approved this message because Mr. Cain is a very
frequent contributor to our Forum and has offered to donate copies of
his books to JewishGen for fundraising purposes (which we can not accept).

But this is a special exception to a GerSig and JewishGen rule:

New publications get a O N E T I M E mention in JewishGen
discussion groups. The reason for limiting the use of our Forum in this
way should be obvious to all.

Please contact Udi privately for more information about the book. MOD1


German SIG #Germany Re: New year new book [oversight corrected] #germany

Udi Cain
 

Dear All,

We have had discussions in the past regarding the origin of Prussian Jews
from Spain. The matter constantly occupied my attention, since I had
received verbal confirmation >from within the family to this fact for a long
time. And now, not only did I find good material published in Germany in
the 1920s, but I also asked a specialist, a doctor of history who deals with
the Sephardi Jews, to look into the matter . I am happy to say that the new
book contains an article which covers that very subject, as well as material
from old genealogical research books.
Up till now, I have received over 50 orders for the book about families and
communities of the province of Posen, Prussia. The price for the book, $15,

involves no financial profit and barely covers cost.

Best regards, Udi Cain, Jerusalem.

MODERATOR NOTE: I have approved this message because Mr. Cain is a very
frequent contributor to our Forum and has offered to donate copies of
his books to JewishGen for fundraising purposes (which we can not accept).

But this is a special exception to a GerSig and JewishGen rule:

New publications get a O N E T I M E mention in JewishGen
discussion groups. The reason for limiting the use of our Forum in this
way should be obvious to all.

Please contact Udi privately for more information about the book. MOD1


Latin Translation - Viewmate #general

Gary Luke <feraltek@...>
 

There are two small samples of Latin text in old Germanic
handwriting on ViewMate. They are >from the cover page of a
list of fixed names taken on by Jews of Arva megye in 1787.
Associated with this list are three more pages of Latin text,
each with far more than these two samples.

The files can be found on the ViewMate site at
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html
Files VM2012 and VM2013

Please email any response directly to me, at
feraltek@zeta.org.au

Thanks for any help

Gary

MODERATOR NOTE: The direct links to these images are:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2012
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2013


many M's #general

Haviva Langenauer <havival@...>
 

Hi Genners,
Regarding the possibility of same names in family I have three
instances to report.

1) On a manifest for a family related to me, I found two children,
eleven and fourteen, names of Moshe and Moses. It turns out that
one of them was a cousin who was travelling to America with his
aunt and uncle, so they were not brothers.
2) My husband is one of seven cousins in the family whose Hebrew
names are Asher Alter, named for the same grandfather.
3) Recently, a cousin named Issacher Dov died. Within two years
there were four new births to carry this name. I would even suspect
that some of these pregnancies were intentionl, just to find a way
to perpetuate the name, as there is an unusully large age
differential between these babies and the next oldest sibling.

Haviva Dolgin Langenauer
Palm Beach, Florida


Re: ss Weiland Manifest on EIDB #general

,
 

Dear Phyllis,
Following that age old rule of i before e, I put the name of the
ship on the Morton Allen directory on Stephen Morse's page and
confirmed that it did indeed arrive on March 21, 1892. I then went
to the missing manifest page and put in the date and frame number
which you had (660). That brought me to the header page for the
Wieland for March 21, 1892. All the passengers were numbered and
the passengers numbered 500-503 are on page 10, frame 670. Hope
this is your missing family.
Carol Blumenthal-Cohen


Re: Ellis Island Ship Arrival Lists #general

Phyllis Kramer <phylliskramer1@...>
 

Try the Morton Allan database created Cimorelli on
http://www.cimorelli.com/safe/shipmenu.htm
You can query by date or ship name to find arrival dates and
photographs.
Regards,
Phyllis Kramer (phylliskramer1@att.net) searching:
KRAMER,WISNER, BEIM >from Jasienica Rosielna (galicia)
STECHER, TRACHMAN, FEIR >from Zmigrod (galicia)
LINDNER, MAUER, BERLIN, EICHEL >from Rohatyn (galicia) & Jassy (Roumania)
SCHEINER, KANDEL, SCHIMMEL >from Strzyzow & Dubienko (galicia)
GUMBRECHT, ZIEGLER >from Germany


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Latin Translation - Viewmate #general

Gary Luke <feraltek@...>
 

There are two small samples of Latin text in old Germanic
handwriting on ViewMate. They are >from the cover page of a
list of fixed names taken on by Jews of Arva megye in 1787.
Associated with this list are three more pages of Latin text,
each with far more than these two samples.

The files can be found on the ViewMate site at
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html
Files VM2012 and VM2013

Please email any response directly to me, at
feraltek@zeta.org.au

Thanks for any help

Gary

MODERATOR NOTE: The direct links to these images are:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2012
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2013


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen many M's #general

Haviva Langenauer <havival@...>
 

Hi Genners,
Regarding the possibility of same names in family I have three
instances to report.

1) On a manifest for a family related to me, I found two children,
eleven and fourteen, names of Moshe and Moses. It turns out that
one of them was a cousin who was travelling to America with his
aunt and uncle, so they were not brothers.
2) My husband is one of seven cousins in the family whose Hebrew
names are Asher Alter, named for the same grandfather.
3) Recently, a cousin named Issacher Dov died. Within two years
there were four new births to carry this name. I would even suspect
that some of these pregnancies were intentionl, just to find a way
to perpetuate the name, as there is an unusully large age
differential between these babies and the next oldest sibling.

Haviva Dolgin Langenauer
Palm Beach, Florida


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: ss Weiland Manifest on EIDB #general

,
 

Dear Phyllis,
Following that age old rule of i before e, I put the name of the
ship on the Morton Allen directory on Stephen Morse's page and
confirmed that it did indeed arrive on March 21, 1892. I then went
to the missing manifest page and put in the date and frame number
which you had (660). That brought me to the header page for the
Wieland for March 21, 1892. All the passengers were numbered and
the passengers numbered 500-503 are on page 10, frame 670. Hope
this is your missing family.
Carol Blumenthal-Cohen


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Ellis Island Ship Arrival Lists #general

Phyllis Kramer <phylliskramer1@...>
 

Try the Morton Allan database created Cimorelli on
http://www.cimorelli.com/safe/shipmenu.htm
You can query by date or ship name to find arrival dates and
photographs.
Regards,
Phyllis Kramer (phylliskramer1@att.net) searching:
KRAMER,WISNER, BEIM >from Jasienica Rosielna (galicia)
STECHER, TRACHMAN, FEIR >from Zmigrod (galicia)
LINDNER, MAUER, BERLIN, EICHEL >from Rohatyn (galicia) & Jassy (Roumania)
SCHEINER, KANDEL, SCHIMMEL >from Strzyzow & Dubienko (galicia)
GUMBRECHT, ZIEGLER >from Germany


Siblings with "same" name #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 12/23/2002 10:38:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
barkie@bellsouth.net writes:

<< My grandfather's name in Austria was Schaje. His younger
brother's name was Schycha. I don't guarantee spelling accuracy,
nor do I know how to pronounce either. After my grandfather came
to America, he changed his name to Sam. A year later, his brother
came, and also declared himself to be named Sam. >from then on,
two brothers named Sam. :) >>

==There's an answer to this, I'm sure. Schaye's "real" name was
Yeshayahu (i.e. Isaiah). Schaye is a very common Yiddish rendering
of the biblical name
==Schycha is more problematic and I believe there may be a
mistransliteration. Shimche or Shimke would be Yiddish for Simchah;
Shimshe would be Yiddish for Shimshon (biblical Samson--there you
get the Sam); Shimshe might also stand for Shim`on (Simon); other
alternatives are Sishyeh (Siskind or Sismann).

I assume each initially used the original name in family, neighbor
and synagogue setting and the Sam name only in contact with civil
authorities, Gentiles, work. By the time the Sam name was used
closer to home it would probably be modified with Rivke's [wife's
name] Sam, or Norfolk Street Sam, or Cobbler Sam, and everyone know
who was being talked about.

Michael Bernet New York mBernet@aol.com.


Joel's changed email? [name might be Joel SALLOWAY] #general

martha <martha@...>
 

Someone by the name of Joel wrote to a possible cousin asking
for information. The message was dated >from June 2000. Joel's
email at that time was :

Jmsall@aol.com.

Joel said he had family >from Courland, >from Bauske and Talsen in
particular. He said his great grandfather was Avram Iddle who
had brothers Noach, Hirsche, and Chaim and sisters Beila and Leah.

Meantime, I only found out about this fellow's quest this week
and his email address is no long valid. Does anyone know who this
might be and what current email he might have?

Many thanks, Martha

Martha Levinson Lev-Zion
President, SIG Latvia

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


Re: Haganah Archives #general

Adelle Gloger
 

Hello Genners,

Eva Berlin was looking for a telephone/fax number for the
Haganah Archives. A simple Yahoo search for "Haganah Archives"
led me to:

The Haganah Archives
23, Rothschild Blvd.
66882 Tel Aviv
Tel. (03) 560 37 15
Fax (03) 566 12 08

Hope this is what Eva Berlin and others are looking for.

Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Shaker Hts., Ohio
agloger@aol.com


Re: Haganah Archives #general

RG <golanron@...>
 

Eva Berlin wrote
My efforts to try to locate a long lostfamily member has led
me to the Haganah Archives in Israel. However I'm unable to
locate on the internet a telephone number or fax or any email
for those who oversee Haganan records.
Here are the full details:

Archiyon Hahagana (Ha'Hagana Archives)
23, Rotchild Blvd.
Tel Aviv (Zip code: 66-882)
Israel

Telephon No.: (Israel) 03-5660395
e-mail address: mmintr88@netvision.net.il

Rony Golan
Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Siblings with "same" name #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 12/23/2002 10:38:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
barkie@bellsouth.net writes:

<< My grandfather's name in Austria was Schaje. His younger
brother's name was Schycha. I don't guarantee spelling accuracy,
nor do I know how to pronounce either. After my grandfather came
to America, he changed his name to Sam. A year later, his brother
came, and also declared himself to be named Sam. >from then on,
two brothers named Sam. :) >>

==There's an answer to this, I'm sure. Schaye's "real" name was
Yeshayahu (i.e. Isaiah). Schaye is a very common Yiddish rendering
of the biblical name
==Schycha is more problematic and I believe there may be a
mistransliteration. Shimche or Shimke would be Yiddish for Simchah;
Shimshe would be Yiddish for Shimshon (biblical Samson--there you
get the Sam); Shimshe might also stand for Shim`on (Simon); other
alternatives are Sishyeh (Siskind or Sismann).

I assume each initially used the original name in family, neighbor
and synagogue setting and the Sam name only in contact with civil
authorities, Gentiles, work. By the time the Sam name was used
closer to home it would probably be modified with Rivke's [wife's
name] Sam, or Norfolk Street Sam, or Cobbler Sam, and everyone know
who was being talked about.

Michael Bernet New York mBernet@aol.com.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Joel's changed email? [name might be Joel SALLOWAY] #general

martha <martha@...>
 

Someone by the name of Joel wrote to a possible cousin asking
for information. The message was dated >from June 2000. Joel's
email at that time was :

Jmsall@aol.com.

Joel said he had family >from Courland, >from Bauske and Talsen in
particular. He said his great grandfather was Avram Iddle who
had brothers Noach, Hirsche, and Chaim and sisters Beila and Leah.

Meantime, I only found out about this fellow's quest this week
and his email address is no long valid. Does anyone know who this
might be and what current email he might have?

Many thanks, Martha

Martha Levinson Lev-Zion
President, SIG Latvia

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Haganah Archives #general

Adelle Gloger
 

Hello Genners,

Eva Berlin was looking for a telephone/fax number for the
Haganah Archives. A simple Yahoo search for "Haganah Archives"
led me to:

The Haganah Archives
23, Rothschild Blvd.
66882 Tel Aviv
Tel. (03) 560 37 15
Fax (03) 566 12 08

Hope this is what Eva Berlin and others are looking for.

Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Shaker Hts., Ohio
agloger@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Haganah Archives #general

RG <golanron@...>
 

Eva Berlin wrote
My efforts to try to locate a long lostfamily member has led
me to the Haganah Archives in Israel. However I'm unable to
locate on the internet a telephone number or fax or any email
for those who oversee Haganan records.
Here are the full details:

Archiyon Hahagana (Ha'Hagana Archives)
23, Rotchild Blvd.
Tel Aviv (Zip code: 66-882)
Israel

Telephon No.: (Israel) 03-5660395
e-mail address: mmintr88@netvision.net.il

Rony Golan
Israel


Re: Too Many M's #general

Anita Citron <anitac47@...>
 

People were very loose with their names. In my family, Israel
Chaimovich became Chaim over here (although the manifest reads
"Israel") and but called himself Morris and was also known as
Hyman. Another member: Moshe became Morris which became Miguel
(on his migration to Argentina).

People changed their names quite readily and easily. As my
relative did, he used his shortened middle name (patronymic) but
then somehow became Morris.

It's all in a day's work.

Anita Citron
anitac47@optonline.net
Hicksville, NY
NADWORNY, SILVER, FLEISHER(Odessa, St.Petersburg), BENDERSKY
(Ladyzhin/Odessa),ODESSKY(Lipovets/Odessa), NEPOMNYATSHY
(Voznesensk/Odessa), TRACHTENBERG (Gritsev/Starykonstantinov/
Odessa/Vienna/Belgium), FURMAN (Pyatkovko/Odessa), FINGERHUT/
FINGERET (Ananyev/Voznesensk/Odessa), MEDNIK/WILDMAN (Berdichev)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Too Many M's #general

Anita Citron <anitac47@...>
 

People were very loose with their names. In my family, Israel
Chaimovich became Chaim over here (although the manifest reads
"Israel") and but called himself Morris and was also known as
Hyman. Another member: Moshe became Morris which became Miguel
(on his migration to Argentina).

People changed their names quite readily and easily. As my
relative did, he used his shortened middle name (patronymic) but
then somehow became Morris.

It's all in a day's work.

Anita Citron
anitac47@optonline.net
Hicksville, NY
NADWORNY, SILVER, FLEISHER(Odessa, St.Petersburg), BENDERSKY
(Ladyzhin/Odessa),ODESSKY(Lipovets/Odessa), NEPOMNYATSHY
(Voznesensk/Odessa), TRACHTENBERG (Gritsev/Starykonstantinov/
Odessa/Vienna/Belgium), FURMAN (Pyatkovko/Odessa), FINGERHUT/
FINGERET (Ananyev/Voznesensk/Odessa), MEDNIK/WILDMAN (Berdichev)