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BRZYSKIER = PRZYSUSKIER ?? #general

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

I have recently discovered a BRZYSKIER branch in my ZYLBERMAN family tree
from the Chorzele/Przasnysz area. They are relatively few in number though
in the JRI-P records.

However, I recently found that the name PRZYSUSKIER is very common
in Chorzele and I plan to check out the LDS era records as soon as I can.

To me (a non-Polish-speaker), these two names (BRZYSKIER and PRZYSUSKIER)
seem to be very similar even though they have different D-M soundex values.

Can someone tell me
1) are these likely to be 'Polish clerk' phonetic spellings of the same
family name?
2) how are they each pronounced and how would their pronunciations differ?

Please reply privately to < meyers01@comcast.net >

Thanks,

Marty Meyers

researching:
ZYLBERMAN/SILVERMAN/ALLENSTEJN/BRZYSKIER >from Przasnysz/Chorzele
BORDOWITZ >from Przasnysz/Mlawa/Ciechanow/Makow/Pultusk/Wyszkow
MEYEROWITZ/POROSHKIN >from Bolshaya Berestovitsa (Belarus)
KIRSHNER/SIDMAN/BAILIN >from Slavuta/Volhynia/Ukraine
LANDSMAN/FINBERG/PEANEN >from Vilna
ZELMANOVICH/ROZENSZTEIN >from Poland (Przasnysz/Mlawa area?)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BRZYSKIER = PRZYSUSKIER ?? #general

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

I have recently discovered a BRZYSKIER branch in my ZYLBERMAN family tree
from the Chorzele/Przasnysz area. They are relatively few in number though
in the JRI-P records.

However, I recently found that the name PRZYSUSKIER is very common
in Chorzele and I plan to check out the LDS era records as soon as I can.

To me (a non-Polish-speaker), these two names (BRZYSKIER and PRZYSUSKIER)
seem to be very similar even though they have different D-M soundex values.

Can someone tell me
1) are these likely to be 'Polish clerk' phonetic spellings of the same
family name?
2) how are they each pronounced and how would their pronunciations differ?

Please reply privately to < meyers01@comcast.net >

Thanks,

Marty Meyers

researching:
ZYLBERMAN/SILVERMAN/ALLENSTEJN/BRZYSKIER >from Przasnysz/Chorzele
BORDOWITZ >from Przasnysz/Mlawa/Ciechanow/Makow/Pultusk/Wyszkow
MEYEROWITZ/POROSHKIN >from Bolshaya Berestovitsa (Belarus)
KIRSHNER/SIDMAN/BAILIN >from Slavuta/Volhynia/Ukraine
LANDSMAN/FINBERG/PEANEN >from Vilna
ZELMANOVICH/ROZENSZTEIN >from Poland (Przasnysz/Mlawa area?)


Re: the SS St. Louis #general

Adelle Gloger
 

The Holocaust Museum has a section of their website dedicated to the SS St.
Louis. < http://www.ushmm.org/stlouis/ >

There is also a searchable index of those who were on board. There are also
detailed stories of some of the survivors.


Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Shaker Hts., Ohio
agloger@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: the SS St. Louis #general

Adelle Gloger
 

The Holocaust Museum has a section of their website dedicated to the SS St.
Louis. < http://www.ushmm.org/stlouis/ >

There is also a searchable index of those who were on board. There are also
detailed stories of some of the survivors.


Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Shaker Hts., Ohio
agloger@aol.com


New Dictionary of Jewish Surnames in spanish #general

genealogia judia <genarg@...>
 

Hello.
We have a nice notice.
We edited a book:
"Diccionario de Apellidos Judios, su etimologia, variantes y derivados" by
Benjamin Edelstein (z´l)
It has the meaning of around 20.000 lastnames, since the author died three
years ago without finish the work, at 91 years old. We decided to edit it
despite it covers only the 40/50% of the total of jewish lastnames (mayor
quantity of ashkenazim) used in Argentina since it is the first book in
spanish in this matter, no translated >from any other book.
We included a explanation wrote by Carlos Tajer about teh process of the
lastnames adoption in East Europe and all the articles about this matter
published in our newsletter Toldot, wrote by the late Benjamin Edesltein
The book has 554 pages and its weight is 810 grammes.
I think that is the first publication made by a Jewish Genealogical Society
in South America, so we are very proud More information can be required to
us, I dont say its price due Jewishegen rules
Hope to help to many spanish readers with this book.
Regards
Paul Armony
Asociacion de Genealogia Judia de Argentina
http://www.agja.org.ar

MODERATOR NOTE:
JewishGen's policy enables each genealogy related book to
get a one-time commercial notice, that may include full
commercial details, including its price.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New Dictionary of Jewish Surnames in spanish #general

genealogia judia <genarg@...>
 

Hello.
We have a nice notice.
We edited a book:
"Diccionario de Apellidos Judios, su etimologia, variantes y derivados" by
Benjamin Edelstein (z´l)
It has the meaning of around 20.000 lastnames, since the author died three
years ago without finish the work, at 91 years old. We decided to edit it
despite it covers only the 40/50% of the total of jewish lastnames (mayor
quantity of ashkenazim) used in Argentina since it is the first book in
spanish in this matter, no translated >from any other book.
We included a explanation wrote by Carlos Tajer about teh process of the
lastnames adoption in East Europe and all the articles about this matter
published in our newsletter Toldot, wrote by the late Benjamin Edesltein
The book has 554 pages and its weight is 810 grammes.
I think that is the first publication made by a Jewish Genealogical Society
in South America, so we are very proud More information can be required to
us, I dont say its price due Jewishegen rules
Hope to help to many spanish readers with this book.
Regards
Paul Armony
Asociacion de Genealogia Judia de Argentina
http://www.agja.org.ar

MODERATOR NOTE:
JewishGen's policy enables each genealogy related book to
get a one-time commercial notice, that may include full
commercial details, including its price.


Re: How I finally found grandpa on the ship manifest #general

Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
 

Roni,
I will pass this on to Steve Morse as I am sure he would be
delighted to read of your success. I am still looking for my
grandmother Ida BEGUN who came >from Pinsk around 1905
and have not been successful. This gives me new hope to
try again.

Diane Jacobs
New York

snip <
When I was in Washington a year later, a volunteer at NARA took the
microfilm >from me and claimed he would find gp. Didn't happen. So how
did I finally find him?

Once the Ellis Island database was on-line, I continued my quest >from the
comfort of my home. Using Stephen Morse's search tools, I manipulated
the searches in every possible way. Months passed. Finally,
frustrated, I put only "S" in the surname space and "M" in the given
name. I listed only 1906, male, and limited the age range. Still, a
very long list of men appeared. I decided to look at the manifests for
ALL the Morris, Moses, Max and Moische given names.
< snip >

I know I wasn't alone in my search for a lost gp. I hope this helps some
of you find your ancestors too. Good luck.

Regards and Happy Chanukah,
Roni Seibel Liebowitz
New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: How I finally found grandpa on the ship manifest #general

Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
 

Roni,
I will pass this on to Steve Morse as I am sure he would be
delighted to read of your success. I am still looking for my
grandmother Ida BEGUN who came >from Pinsk around 1905
and have not been successful. This gives me new hope to
try again.

Diane Jacobs
New York

snip <
When I was in Washington a year later, a volunteer at NARA took the
microfilm >from me and claimed he would find gp. Didn't happen. So how
did I finally find him?

Once the Ellis Island database was on-line, I continued my quest >from the
comfort of my home. Using Stephen Morse's search tools, I manipulated
the searches in every possible way. Months passed. Finally,
frustrated, I put only "S" in the surname space and "M" in the given
name. I listed only 1906, male, and limited the age range. Still, a
very long list of men appeared. I decided to look at the manifests for
ALL the Morris, Moses, Max and Moische given names.
< snip >

I know I wasn't alone in my search for a lost gp. I hope this helps some
of you find your ancestors too. Good luck.

Regards and Happy Chanukah,
Roni Seibel Liebowitz
New York


need help finding dancer, Marya Saunders #yiddish

Tracie Schneider <tracie157@...>
 

Dear YTandV members,
I'm very happy to have found this list, and am hoping that it might
help me track down a family member I've been looking for for years.
I have a relative named Senia Solomonoff (stage name) (my GGM's
brother)who immigrated in the early 1900s >from Kiev. He was a ballet
dancer of some renown, and married another well-known dancer named Lola
Menzelli (also a stage name). The two toured around the world together in
the teens and 1920's (I have magazine and newspaper articles). When they
retired >from dancing, Senia opened a book store in Manhattan (on 6th
Street) that sold dance and drama books.
They had a daughter born in the mid-1930's who also made up a name for
herself - Marya Saunders. She too was a dancer, and appeared in off-
Broadway shows,TV, etc. I have her resume which lists all her
performances. She was apparently raised in Chicago.
When Senia died in Sept. 1954, she took over his book store. I have
no idea what her "real" name was, whether she ever married and changed it
yet again, whether she's still living (very likely), what part of the
country she may be living in, although some family lore says she's
somewhere in Florida.
I would very much like to find her. I have checked for information
with the two unions listed on her resume, but they will not give me
information on former members. If anyone has ANY ideas about what I can do
to find her, or if anyone has ever heard of her or her parents, please let
me know. I've run out of leads!!

Tracie Schneider
Tallahassee, FL

Moderator's Note: While this is not a search for a "Yiddish Theater or
Vaudeville" performer, assistance in this member's request would be
appreciated. Please reply directly to the sender.


Yiddish Theatre and Vadeville #YiddishTheatre need help finding dancer, Marya Saunders #yiddish

Tracie Schneider <tracie157@...>
 

Dear YTandV members,
I'm very happy to have found this list, and am hoping that it might
help me track down a family member I've been looking for for years.
I have a relative named Senia Solomonoff (stage name) (my GGM's
brother)who immigrated in the early 1900s >from Kiev. He was a ballet
dancer of some renown, and married another well-known dancer named Lola
Menzelli (also a stage name). The two toured around the world together in
the teens and 1920's (I have magazine and newspaper articles). When they
retired >from dancing, Senia opened a book store in Manhattan (on 6th
Street) that sold dance and drama books.
They had a daughter born in the mid-1930's who also made up a name for
herself - Marya Saunders. She too was a dancer, and appeared in off-
Broadway shows,TV, etc. I have her resume which lists all her
performances. She was apparently raised in Chicago.
When Senia died in Sept. 1954, she took over his book store. I have
no idea what her "real" name was, whether she ever married and changed it
yet again, whether she's still living (very likely), what part of the
country she may be living in, although some family lore says she's
somewhere in Florida.
I would very much like to find her. I have checked for information
with the two unions listed on her resume, but they will not give me
information on former members. If anyone has ANY ideas about what I can do
to find her, or if anyone has ever heard of her or her parents, please let
me know. I've run out of leads!!

Tracie Schneider
Tallahassee, FL

Moderator's Note: While this is not a search for a "Yiddish Theater or
Vaudeville" performer, assistance in this member's request would be
appreciated. Please reply directly to the sender.


FUTTERSACK #general

y_tadmor@...
 

Hi
I'm looking after the descendants of the FUTTERSACK family >from Galicia.
They arrieved to U.S.A at 1895-1905.

Yitzhak Tadmor


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen FUTTERSACK #general

y_tadmor@...
 

Hi
I'm looking after the descendants of the FUTTERSACK family >from Galicia.
They arrieved to U.S.A at 1895-1905.

Yitzhak Tadmor


Re: The word "Israelites" and "Old Believers." #belarus

raanan1@...
 

BS"D
Just to point out that while Naomis comment on the Russians general
dislike of any religion is true, however, none of the other groups in
Soviet Russia appear to have merited to have their own "special section"
of the GPU (and its later Name, the KGB) such as the infamous "Yevseksia"
(the Jewish section of the KGB). This unusual section, manned by Jews,
had the "sacred" mission to eradicate Jewish religious life. In the
process, sending millions to their deaths. Under Stalin, the Jews in
this section were all sent to Siberia (thank G-d for all of us) and their
murderous activities stopped (somewhat).
So, the feeling of the Soviet Russian government was somewhat different
towards the Jews.
All the best,
Raanan Isseroff

Believers were persecuted by the Tsars and after the Revolution
they were not
treated any more sympathetically by the atheistic Soviet regime than
were the Jews.


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: The word "Israelites" and "Old Believers." #belarus

raanan1@...
 

BS"D
Just to point out that while Naomis comment on the Russians general
dislike of any religion is true, however, none of the other groups in
Soviet Russia appear to have merited to have their own "special section"
of the GPU (and its later Name, the KGB) such as the infamous "Yevseksia"
(the Jewish section of the KGB). This unusual section, manned by Jews,
had the "sacred" mission to eradicate Jewish religious life. In the
process, sending millions to their deaths. Under Stalin, the Jews in
this section were all sent to Siberia (thank G-d for all of us) and their
murderous activities stopped (somewhat).
So, the feeling of the Soviet Russian government was somewhat different
towards the Jews.
All the best,
Raanan Isseroff

Believers were persecuted by the Tsars and after the Revolution
they were not
treated any more sympathetically by the atheistic Soviet regime than
were the Jews.


Translation of Polish Birth Record #belarus

Henry <hmsinai@...>
 

Dear Siggers,

I would appreciate any help in translating the Polish Jewish birth record
posted on Viewmate VM 3208.
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/All/viewmateview.asp?key=3208
Thanks


Henry Sinai
RAANANA
Israel
hmsinai@netvision.net.il



Researching:

SINAI and variations (SZINAI, SINAJ,SYNAJ, ETC)- Austria, Hungary, Poland,
Rest of World
PARNES- Lemberg (Lvov), Brody, Berlin
GOLDENBERG- Brody, Berlin
MOSZKOWSKI- Opole Lubelskie; Leszniow, Rzeszow, Poland
SOBEL- Opole Lubelskie; Poland
WOLARSKY -Mlawa; Poland
JELLINEK - Bratislava (Pressburg), Vienna
(von)KEMENY - Austria/Hungary


Belarus SIG #Belarus Translation of Polish Birth Record #belarus

Henry <hmsinai@...>
 

Dear Siggers,

I would appreciate any help in translating the Polish Jewish birth record
posted on Viewmate VM 3208.
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/All/viewmateview.asp?key=3208
Thanks


Henry Sinai
RAANANA
Israel
hmsinai@netvision.net.il



Researching:

SINAI and variations (SZINAI, SINAJ,SYNAJ, ETC)- Austria, Hungary, Poland,
Rest of World
PARNES- Lemberg (Lvov), Brody, Berlin
GOLDENBERG- Brody, Berlin
MOSZKOWSKI- Opole Lubelskie; Leszniow, Rzeszow, Poland
SOBEL- Opole Lubelskie; Poland
WOLARSKY -Mlawa; Poland
JELLINEK - Bratislava (Pressburg), Vienna
(von)KEMENY - Austria/Hungary


Yiddish translations requested on ViewMate: TURETSKY/Pinsk, MEISEL/Romanovo/Slutsk #belarus

John Jones <quexi@...>
 

Hi,

I've posted five family photos with Yiddish inscriptions on
ViewMate. These were >from my grandfather's album, and I can't
identify some of the people. I'm hoping that someone can fully
translate one or more of the inscriptions. The fifth one also
has some Russian (?) words, and any translation of that would
help too.

The photos include members of the TURETSKY family >from Pinsk and
the MEISEL and CANTOR families >from Romanovo/Slutsk. The photos
were taken in Pinsk, New York, and possibly the Romanovo area.

To see them, please go to
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3210
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3211
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3212
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3213
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3214
or go to ViewMate and look for #3210-3214 at
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/index.asp

I have more photos of these families if anyone is interested.

Please send your replies directly to me, rather than to this
whole e-mail list.

Many thanks!
--John Jones, Basking Ridge, New Jersey, USA
quexi@yahoo.com


Belarus SIG #Belarus Yiddish translations requested on ViewMate: TURETSKY/Pinsk, MEISEL/Romanovo/Slutsk #belarus

John Jones <quexi@...>
 

Hi,

I've posted five family photos with Yiddish inscriptions on
ViewMate. These were >from my grandfather's album, and I can't
identify some of the people. I'm hoping that someone can fully
translate one or more of the inscriptions. The fifth one also
has some Russian (?) words, and any translation of that would
help too.

The photos include members of the TURETSKY family >from Pinsk and
the MEISEL and CANTOR families >from Romanovo/Slutsk. The photos
were taken in Pinsk, New York, and possibly the Romanovo area.

To see them, please go to
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3210
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3211
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3212
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3213
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3214
or go to ViewMate and look for #3210-3214 at
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/index.asp

I have more photos of these families if anyone is interested.

Please send your replies directly to me, rather than to this
whole e-mail list.

Many thanks!
--John Jones, Basking Ridge, New Jersey, USA
quexi@yahoo.com


Re: the SS St. Louis #general

Naidia Woolf <rnwoolf@...>
 

There was an interesting (and poignant) article in the Parade section of my
local (San Francisco) newspaper about the American ship SS St. Louis and
its over 900 Europeans (mostlyJews) who a few short months before war was
declared in Europe in September 1939, were fleeing the Nazis - and almost
certain incarceration and death. On May 13, 1939, the ship attempted to
land at a U.S. port (in Florida) but despite "urgent telegrams to every
level of the U.S. government, including President Roosevelt," permission
was never granted. Instead, Coast Guard boats "patrolled the waters to
prevent anyone >from swimming to shore." On June 7, the St. Louis was
forced to turn round and return to Europe. Today there are dedicated
researchers at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C.
trying to determine the fate of the passengers on the ill-fated St. Louis.
Of the 619 who were offered sanctuary by France, Holland and Belgium, about
260 ultimately were deported and killed. At least 460 of the more than 900
passengers, however, survived the Holocaust and were traced to the U.S. (a
small comfort, but comfort nevertheless). The Museum's Survivors Registry
is the name of the database which documents the fates of individual
European Jews -- at present the Registry includes the names and
biographical information of more than 185,000 survivors and their
descendants. [Similar to the records and testimonials held by Yad Vashem
in Israel: my comment.]

For more information about the S.S. St. Louis, the reader is asked to
visit www.parade.com on the Web, or - if able to help (by furnishing
information about the passengers on the St. Louis), to contact Scott Miller
at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum - e-mail smiller@ushmm.org; www

I have no financial interest in the above newspaper, nor in the Holocaust
Memorial Museum or its Survivors Registry. This message has been posted
simply because of what I believe is the "need to know."

Naidia Woolf
San Francisco, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: the SS St. Louis #general

Naidia Woolf <rnwoolf@...>
 

There was an interesting (and poignant) article in the Parade section of my
local (San Francisco) newspaper about the American ship SS St. Louis and
its over 900 Europeans (mostlyJews) who a few short months before war was
declared in Europe in September 1939, were fleeing the Nazis - and almost
certain incarceration and death. On May 13, 1939, the ship attempted to
land at a U.S. port (in Florida) but despite "urgent telegrams to every
level of the U.S. government, including President Roosevelt," permission
was never granted. Instead, Coast Guard boats "patrolled the waters to
prevent anyone >from swimming to shore." On June 7, the St. Louis was
forced to turn round and return to Europe. Today there are dedicated
researchers at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C.
trying to determine the fate of the passengers on the ill-fated St. Louis.
Of the 619 who were offered sanctuary by France, Holland and Belgium, about
260 ultimately were deported and killed. At least 460 of the more than 900
passengers, however, survived the Holocaust and were traced to the U.S. (a
small comfort, but comfort nevertheless). The Museum's Survivors Registry
is the name of the database which documents the fates of individual
European Jews -- at present the Registry includes the names and
biographical information of more than 185,000 survivors and their
descendants. [Similar to the records and testimonials held by Yad Vashem
in Israel: my comment.]

For more information about the S.S. St. Louis, the reader is asked to
visit www.parade.com on the Web, or - if able to help (by furnishing
information about the passengers on the St. Louis), to contact Scott Miller
at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum - e-mail smiller@ushmm.org; www

I have no financial interest in the above newspaper, nor in the Holocaust
Memorial Museum or its Survivors Registry. This message has been posted
simply because of what I believe is the "need to know."

Naidia Woolf
San Francisco, CA