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Alice LAVELL
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David Priever
Dear Fellow Jewishgenners,
An early Happy Chanukah to everyone!!! I am trying to help a fellow genealogist in Canada find someone. Her aunt, Alice LAVELL (born ca. 1910) was listed up until 2000 in the Bronx White Pages. I went to the listed address. Her name is still on the resident directory. I spoke to the building superintendent who recalls she had a home attendant and was moved to a nursing home. around 1999-2000. My gut feeling (I've been wrong before) is that this superintendant was giving me accurate information. I already had the New York City death indices from 1999 to the present searched. Nothing.a) she could have died outside of the 5 boroughs of NYC; b) she died out of New York State; c) she is still alive and lives in a nursing home. The Alice LAVELL listings in the SSDI are all accounted for. Bronx County Probate records have already been searched. Is the answer staring me in the face? Am I missing something? Do I unfortunately concede "defeat"? The person for whom I am doing this is desirous of rekindling contact with this aunt who married into the family. Your ideas and feedback will be very greatly appreciated. Sincerely, David Priever brooklyn1960@hotmail.com MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Alice LAVELL
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David Priever
Dear Fellow Jewishgenners,
An early Happy Chanukah to everyone!!! I am trying to help a fellow genealogist in Canada find someone. Her aunt, Alice LAVELL (born ca. 1910) was listed up until 2000 in the Bronx White Pages. I went to the listed address. Her name is still on the resident directory. I spoke to the building superintendent who recalls she had a home attendant and was moved to a nursing home. around 1999-2000. My gut feeling (I've been wrong before) is that this superintendant was giving me accurate information. I already had the New York City death indices from 1999 to the present searched. Nothing.a) she could have died outside of the 5 boroughs of NYC; b) she died out of New York State; c) she is still alive and lives in a nursing home. The Alice LAVELL listings in the SSDI are all accounted for. Bronx County Probate records have already been searched. Is the answer staring me in the face? Am I missing something? Do I unfortunately concede "defeat"? The person for whom I am doing this is desirous of rekindling contact with this aunt who married into the family. Your ideas and feedback will be very greatly appreciated. Sincerely, David Priever brooklyn1960@hotmail.com MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately
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Re: The ROSENBERG Family of Lichenroth (Hessen-Nassau)
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RalphNBaer@...
Let me add to what Prof Esterson wrote. Besides for Gump ROSENBERG, my
great-grandmother Amalie CAHN nee SCHMIDT also had a great-grandfather named Gumpel EISEMANN. By tracking through all of Gustavs in both of these families named for them in Germany, and all of the Garys, Gordons, and even a Gad in Israel, named for the Gustavs, I was able to determine that Gump ROSENBERG had the Hebrew name Mordochai while Gumpel EISEMANN had the Hebrew name Ephraim. Ralph BAER Washington, DC RalphNBaer@aol.com
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German SIG #Germany Re: The ROSENBERG Family of Lichenroth (Hessen-Nassau)
#germany
RalphNBaer@...
Let me add to what Prof Esterson wrote. Besides for Gump ROSENBERG, my
great-grandmother Amalie CAHN nee SCHMIDT also had a great-grandfather named Gumpel EISEMANN. By tracking through all of Gustavs in both of these families named for them in Germany, and all of the Garys, Gordons, and even a Gad in Israel, named for the Gustavs, I was able to determine that Gump ROSENBERG had the Hebrew name Mordochai while Gumpel EISEMANN had the Hebrew name Ephraim. Ralph BAER Washington, DC RalphNBaer@aol.com
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Need Phone Call in Vienna, Austria
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Deborah Dworski <ddworski@...>
Hello fellow JewishGenners,
I believe I have found a member of my extended family in the Austrian White Pages online. The gentleman is in Vienna. Is there someone who could make a phone call in the next day or two to confirm his identity and to determine if he speaks English? I will furnish details. Please respond privately. Thank you in advance, Deborah Dworski Arlington, Virginia U.S.A. searching: DIENER, KOFLER, SCHOR, SONNENBLUM, STUPP (Gorodenka, Ukr) SCHAUDER, SCHIEBER, SCHNEID, SOCKEL (Solotwina, Ukr) DWORSKI, LEVATINSKY, MINSKY, SILBERSTEIN (Raczki, Pol) BRAMA, BRAUN anglicized to BROWN (Rypin, Pol) GRZEBIEN anglicized to GESBEN, LOPATKA (Sierpc, Pol)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Need Phone Call in Vienna, Austria
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Deborah Dworski <ddworski@...>
Hello fellow JewishGenners,
I believe I have found a member of my extended family in the Austrian White Pages online. The gentleman is in Vienna. Is there someone who could make a phone call in the next day or two to confirm his identity and to determine if he speaks English? I will furnish details. Please respond privately. Thank you in advance, Deborah Dworski Arlington, Virginia U.S.A. searching: DIENER, KOFLER, SCHOR, SONNENBLUM, STUPP (Gorodenka, Ukr) SCHAUDER, SCHIEBER, SCHNEID, SOCKEL (Solotwina, Ukr) DWORSKI, LEVATINSKY, MINSKY, SILBERSTEIN (Raczki, Pol) BRAMA, BRAUN anglicized to BROWN (Rypin, Pol) GRZEBIEN anglicized to GESBEN, LOPATKA (Sierpc, Pol)
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Aliyat Hanoar - Children Coming to Israel After the War
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Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
For all of those who wrote to me, when I announced the lecture
on the subject at the Tel-Aviv Branch of the Israel Genealogy Society in November,we have posted with the help and consent of Eva Floershiem, a short description and list of sites that may be helpful. http://www.isragen.org.il/ROS/ARCHIVES/aliyat-hanoar.html Rose Feldman Shalom and see you in Jerusalem! The 24th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy July 4-9, 2004 www.jewishgen.org/jerusalem2004
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Aliyat Hanoar - Children Coming to Israel After the War
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Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
For all of those who wrote to me, when I announced the lecture
on the subject at the Tel-Aviv Branch of the Israel Genealogy Society in November,we have posted with the help and consent of Eva Floershiem, a short description and list of sites that may be helpful. http://www.isragen.org.il/ROS/ARCHIVES/aliyat-hanoar.html Rose Feldman Shalom and see you in Jerusalem! The 24th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy July 4-9, 2004 www.jewishgen.org/jerusalem2004
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JGS of Tampa Bay Meeting Sunday, December 14, 2003
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Mark
Jewish Genealogical Society of Tampa Bay
Meeting Sunday, December 14, 2003 "...Remembering the Kindertransports" The Jewish Genealogical Society of Tampa Bay will meet at 2:00 PM Sunday December 14, 2003 at Gulf Coast Jewish Family Services, 14041 Icot Blvd., Clearwater, Florida. The topic for the meeting will be a video "My Knees Were Jumping, Remembering the Kindertransports". The film is narrated by Joanne Woodward. With tremendous courage, a group of Jews and Quakers saved the lives of thousands of children >from Germany, Austria, Czechoslovakia and Poland between December 1938 and August 1939. Most of the children never saw their parents again. Filmmaker Melissa Hacker reveals the dramatic story of her Vienna born mother, the Academy Award nominated costume designer, Ruth Morley. *Back to by popular demand*: Beginning at 1:30 PM (30 minutes prior to the video program) the main program will be preceded by a beginner's workshop. Following the video, there will be questions and answers for individuals doing research, and our new library materials will be available for review and utilization. The Jewish Genealogical Society's library and research resources, including both printed materials and computer access, along with guided assistance and information exchange >from experienced researchers will be available to participants at the meeting. Our library is growing and is quickly becoming one of the most important reasons to come to the meetings. Many of the items in the library are impossible to find in the local libraries, and if they are reference only elsewhere, they can not be gotten through inter-library loans. For further information on the organization or for directions to the meeting call Mark Baron at 727-842-5789 or Sally Israel at 727-343-1652. Mark Baron President JGSTampaBay@yahoo.com (727) 842-5789 The Jewish Genealogical Society of Tampa Bay is a proud member of the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS of Tampa Bay Meeting Sunday, December 14, 2003
#general
Mark
Jewish Genealogical Society of Tampa Bay
Meeting Sunday, December 14, 2003 "...Remembering the Kindertransports" The Jewish Genealogical Society of Tampa Bay will meet at 2:00 PM Sunday December 14, 2003 at Gulf Coast Jewish Family Services, 14041 Icot Blvd., Clearwater, Florida. The topic for the meeting will be a video "My Knees Were Jumping, Remembering the Kindertransports". The film is narrated by Joanne Woodward. With tremendous courage, a group of Jews and Quakers saved the lives of thousands of children >from Germany, Austria, Czechoslovakia and Poland between December 1938 and August 1939. Most of the children never saw their parents again. Filmmaker Melissa Hacker reveals the dramatic story of her Vienna born mother, the Academy Award nominated costume designer, Ruth Morley. *Back to by popular demand*: Beginning at 1:30 PM (30 minutes prior to the video program) the main program will be preceded by a beginner's workshop. Following the video, there will be questions and answers for individuals doing research, and our new library materials will be available for review and utilization. The Jewish Genealogical Society's library and research resources, including both printed materials and computer access, along with guided assistance and information exchange >from experienced researchers will be available to participants at the meeting. Our library is growing and is quickly becoming one of the most important reasons to come to the meetings. Many of the items in the library are impossible to find in the local libraries, and if they are reference only elsewhere, they can not be gotten through inter-library loans. For further information on the organization or for directions to the meeting call Mark Baron at 727-842-5789 or Sally Israel at 727-343-1652. Mark Baron President JGSTampaBay@yahoo.com (727) 842-5789 The Jewish Genealogical Society of Tampa Bay is a proud member of the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies.
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Kris Murawski <kris.murawski@...>
"Gimnazjum" is not the name of a school. High school education in Poland
was divided in four years of "gimnazjum" followed by two years of "liceum". You would have to know which "gimnazjum" in Warsaw your father attended. The postal address of Warsaw University is Uniwersytet Warszawski, Krakowskie Przedmiescie 26/28, 00-927 Warszawa. My father attended the Warsaw Gymnasium in the 1920s. Can anyone tell meeducation? Can anyone refer me to a picture of it? Where could I locate my father'sDoes anyone have an email or postal address for their school records archives
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Peter Lebensold <lebensold@...>
Hello again:
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My impression is that there are presently over 50 gymnasia (middle = schools) in Warsaw. To have any hope of finding whether any records still exist, = I think you'd need to know the name of the gymnasium. Perhaps, if (see my earlier response) you are able to locate your father's university = records, that would tell you >from which gymnasium he graduated. Other stuff that might be helpful: A posting here - just over a year ago - refers to a list of gymnasia at = page 349 of the book "Zydzi w Warszawie" ("The Jews in Warsaw") written (in Polish) by Marian Fuks. There are old postcards, showing photos of a number of Warsaw schools, = at http://www.stalus.iq.pl/show.php/idc/15 ... and a few more at the Architecture of Pre-War Warsaw site = http://www.warszawa1939.pl/index.php (click on "indeks" at the very bottom of that page, then on "kliknij" = right after "Indeks obiektow" on the top of the next page, then under = "Obiekty" scroll down to "Szkoly"). Peter Lebensold Peter Lebensold
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|From: George Mason [mailto:gmason3815@hotmail.com] |Sent: December 5, 2003 8:55 AM |To: Warszawa Research Group |Subject: [warszawa] Warsaw Gymnasium and school records | |My father attended the Warsaw Gymnasium in the 1920s. Can anyone tell = me |where it was located and does it still exist? Did a Gymnasium offer |elementary and secondary education or just secondary/high school = education? |Can anyone refer me to a picture of it? Where could I locate my = father's |school records? He also attended the University of Warsaw in the 1930s. |Does |anyone have an email or postal address for their school records = archives |department? |Thank You, |George Mason (Mozeson) | |Searching for MOZESON and GOLDBERG in Warsaw | |_________________________________________________________________ |Cell phone 'switch' rules are taking effect - find out more here. |http://special.msn.com/msnbc/consumeradvocate.armx | | | |*** Point.to.Point with JewishGen *** |http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen/ptp/ptp1.htm |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |You are currently subscribed to warszawa as: [peter@lebensold.com] |To unsubscribe send email to leave-warszawa-786524D@lyris.jewishgen.org
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Peter Lebensold <lebensold@...>
Back in February, Garry Mokotoff sent the Warszawa Research Group the
following: "From: Gary Mokotoff - Optimum [mailto:mokotoff@optonline.net]=20 In 1997 I went to Warsaw and one of the sites I visited looking for documentation of Mokotow relatives was the archives of the University of Warsaw. At that time, they were in the process of computerizing the = names of every student who attended the University >from about 1915 to the = present. The only Mokotow in the database was a Riwka Mokotow. =20 The information they have in their archives can be very valuable. It includes the application for admission which includes such information = as address and names of parents. It also included a picture of the student. Many of their Jewish students were murdered in the Holocaust and the = picture may be the only surviving portrait of the person. I doubt if they would respond to mail inquiries, but if you are going to Warsaw, it might be worth a stop at the archives. The lookups are quick because it is computerized. (I seem to recall they even had wildcard = search capability.)" I note that the University of Warsaw has a pretty slick - and English-language - website at = http://www.uw.edu.pl/uw_new/eng/index.shtml There are email addresses aplenty for all sorts of departments, = including the Preservation and Conservation Department of the Library. Peter Lebensold
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Kris Murawski <kris.murawski@...>
"Gimnazjum" is not the name of a school. High school education in Poland
was divided in four years of "gimnazjum" followed by two years of "liceum". You would have to know which "gimnazjum" in Warsaw your father attended. The postal address of Warsaw University is Uniwersytet Warszawski, Krakowskie Przedmiescie 26/28, 00-927 Warszawa. My father attended the Warsaw Gymnasium in the 1920s. Can anyone tell meeducation? Can anyone refer me to a picture of it? Where could I locate my father'sDoes anyone have an email or postal address for their school records archives
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Peter Lebensold <lebensold@...>
Hello again:
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
My impression is that there are presently over 50 gymnasia (middle = schools) in Warsaw. To have any hope of finding whether any records still exist, = I think you'd need to know the name of the gymnasium. Perhaps, if (see my earlier response) you are able to locate your father's university = records, that would tell you >from which gymnasium he graduated. Other stuff that might be helpful: A posting here - just over a year ago - refers to a list of gymnasia at = page 349 of the book "Zydzi w Warszawie" ("The Jews in Warsaw") written (in Polish) by Marian Fuks. There are old postcards, showing photos of a number of Warsaw schools, = at http://www.stalus.iq.pl/show.php/idc/15 ... and a few more at the Architecture of Pre-War Warsaw site = http://www.warszawa1939.pl/index.php (click on "indeks" at the very bottom of that page, then on "kliknij" = right after "Indeks obiektow" on the top of the next page, then under = "Obiekty" scroll down to "Szkoly"). Peter Lebensold Peter Lebensold
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|From: George Mason [mailto:gmason3815@hotmail.com] |Sent: December 5, 2003 8:55 AM |To: Warszawa Research Group |Subject: [warszawa] Warsaw Gymnasium and school records | |My father attended the Warsaw Gymnasium in the 1920s. Can anyone tell = me |where it was located and does it still exist? Did a Gymnasium offer |elementary and secondary education or just secondary/high school = education? |Can anyone refer me to a picture of it? Where could I locate my = father's |school records? He also attended the University of Warsaw in the 1930s. |Does |anyone have an email or postal address for their school records = archives |department? |Thank You, |George Mason (Mozeson) | |Searching for MOZESON and GOLDBERG in Warsaw | |_________________________________________________________________ |Cell phone 'switch' rules are taking effect - find out more here. |http://special.msn.com/msnbc/consumeradvocate.armx | | | |*** Point.to.Point with JewishGen *** |http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen/ptp/ptp1.htm |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |You are currently subscribed to warszawa as: [peter@lebensold.com] |To unsubscribe send email to leave-warszawa-786524D@lyris.jewishgen.org
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Peter Lebensold <lebensold@...>
Back in February, Garry Mokotoff sent the Warszawa Research Group the
following: "From: Gary Mokotoff - Optimum [mailto:mokotoff@optonline.net]=20 In 1997 I went to Warsaw and one of the sites I visited looking for documentation of Mokotow relatives was the archives of the University of Warsaw. At that time, they were in the process of computerizing the = names of every student who attended the University >from about 1915 to the = present. The only Mokotow in the database was a Riwka Mokotow. =20 The information they have in their archives can be very valuable. It includes the application for admission which includes such information = as address and names of parents. It also included a picture of the student. Many of their Jewish students were murdered in the Holocaust and the = picture may be the only surviving portrait of the person. I doubt if they would respond to mail inquiries, but if you are going to Warsaw, it might be worth a stop at the archives. The lookups are quick because it is computerized. (I seem to recall they even had wildcard = search capability.)" I note that the University of Warsaw has a pretty slick - and English-language - website at = http://www.uw.edu.pl/uw_new/eng/index.shtml There are email addresses aplenty for all sorts of departments, = including the Preservation and Conservation Department of the Library. Peter Lebensold
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Roni S. Liebowitz
Dear Researchers,
For those of you who are researching Zgierz, Poland I think you'll be interested in this contact in Poland. The director of the Museum there is willing and eager to provide information and share historical documents about the Jews in this town. His contact information is Marcin (Martin) Czaplicki at marcin.czaplicki@polkomtel.com.pl I heard >from Marcin once before when he noticed a few errors about the identity of some picture postcards listed on the LARG site. He seems very eager to gather and share information for his town of Zgierz. I was working for a long while with the director of the Belchatow Museum--until his sudden and untimely death at 54 years of age. He never asked for payment---was happy to research the history of the Jews in Belchatow and thrilled the information was put on the ShtetLinks site. He provided me with old photographs, articles, Jewish election and synagogue lists, etc. I hope you can have the same enriching experience by working with Marcin. Let me know. I would hate to miss this opportunity to gain information about the town. Regards, Roni (Roni Seibel Liebowitz) New York LARG Co-coordinator http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/LARG.htm Belchatow ShtetLink Coordinator http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/belchatow/ Belchatow Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing- Poland, http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/belchatow.htm Belchatow Yizkor Book Project Coordinator http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Belchatow/Belchatow.html JRI-Poland Board Member http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/ ________________________________
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Roni S. Liebowitz
Dear Researchers,
For those of you who are researching Zgierz, Poland I think you'll be interested in this contact in Poland. The director of the Museum there is willing and eager to provide information and share historical documents about the Jews in this town. His contact information is Marcin (Martin) Czaplicki at marcin.czaplicki@polkomtel.com.pl I heard >from Marcin once before when he noticed a few errors about the identity of some picture postcards listed on the LARG site. He seems very eager to gather and share information for his town of Zgierz. I was working for a long while with the director of the Belchatow Museum--until his sudden and untimely death at 54 years of age. He never asked for payment---was happy to research the history of the Jews in Belchatow and thrilled the information was put on the ShtetLinks site. He provided me with old photographs, articles, Jewish election and synagogue lists, etc. I hope you can have the same enriching experience by working with Marcin. Let me know. I would hate to miss this opportunity to gain information about the town. Regards, Roni (Roni Seibel Liebowitz) New York LARG Co-coordinator http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/LARG.htm Belchatow ShtetLink Coordinator http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/belchatow/ Belchatow Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing- Poland, http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/belchatow.htm Belchatow Yizkor Book Project Coordinator http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Belchatow/Belchatow.html JRI-Poland Board Member http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/ ________________________________
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P.S. To Search for Mary Birkhahn's daughter
#belarus
Rachelle <rlberliner@...>
This is additional information re our search, and, hopefully, will enable a
genner to give us a contact name and email address. Descendants of Mary Hellman 1 Mary Hellman b: Abt. 1865 .. +Phillip Birkhahn b: Abt. 1858 ..... 2 Augusta Birkhahn Burial: Miami Dade, FL b: June 24, 1888 d: May 1984 ......... +Herman "Harry" Freidberg b: July 12, 1890 d: February 1967 ............ 3 Lucille Freidberg b: Abt. 1908 ................ +Henry Davis b: Abt. 1906 ............ 3 Milton Freidberg b: August 10, 1912 d: May 1961 ............ 3 Ruth Freidberg b: Abt. 1915 ............ 3 Rena Freidberg b: Abt. 1922 Thank you again! Rachelle Berliner Savannah, GA rlberliner@comcast.net
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Belarus SIG #Belarus P.S. To Search for Mary Birkhahn's daughter
#belarus
Rachelle <rlberliner@...>
This is additional information re our search, and, hopefully, will enable a
genner to give us a contact name and email address. Descendants of Mary Hellman 1 Mary Hellman b: Abt. 1865 .. +Phillip Birkhahn b: Abt. 1858 ..... 2 Augusta Birkhahn Burial: Miami Dade, FL b: June 24, 1888 d: May 1984 ......... +Herman "Harry" Freidberg b: July 12, 1890 d: February 1967 ............ 3 Lucille Freidberg b: Abt. 1908 ................ +Henry Davis b: Abt. 1906 ............ 3 Milton Freidberg b: August 10, 1912 d: May 1961 ............ 3 Ruth Freidberg b: Abt. 1915 ............ 3 Rena Freidberg b: Abt. 1922 Thank you again! Rachelle Berliner Savannah, GA rlberliner@comcast.net
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