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Re: Szavai/Szavay #hungary

tom klein <h-sig@...>
 

as has been said over and over, you cannot tell if someone is jewish >from their name. for example, in my own family, KLEIN has been changed to KU'TI and to KO:SZEGI, specifically because they are *not* jewish names. in order to get ahead in hungarian society, jews changed their names or converted or whatever, so the name alone is not a good indicator.

even names of german origin are not a reliable indicator, since there was a significant minority of (non-jewish) hungarians of german ethnicity, particularly before world war II.

the only reliable way to figure it out is through research of documented sources.


....... tom klein, toronto

Michele Sankar <sankosy@rogers.com> wrote:


Can anyone tell me about the last name Szavai/Szavay, or if it is
even "Jewish"? We have learned that our great-aunt Erzsebet/Bozsi
GLOCKNER (born in 1890's) married a man named Adolf SZAVAI/SZAVAY who
likely died any time before 1952. He was said to have been high up in
the military.


*re: Austrian Victims of the Holocaust #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

An improved version of the same database can be found at:
http://www.lettertothestars.at/browser_normal/abfrage/index.html
Unfortunately this search engine is only in German. Vorname means
'given name', Nachname means 'family name/surname'. Click on the
first 'Abschicken' button.

The advantage over DOEW's site mentioned by Stephen: details on the
found names are given. Just click on the name(s).

Wildcard searches are allowed (for example 'vene' would bring names
containing 'Venetianer'. However there is no phonetic search,
Venetianer and Wenetianer are two different names.

At 00:00 -0600 12.03.04, H-SIG digest wrote:
Subject: Austrian Victims of the Holocaust
From: "Stephen Schmideg" <stephen@sicore.com.au>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 11:52:26 +1100
X-Message-Number: 12

The Austrian Victims of the Holocaust database with over 60,000 names is
worth looking at, as I found both Austrian and Hungarian relatives listed:

http://www.doew.at/cgi-bin/shoah/shoah.pl?lang=engl

Stephen Schmideg
--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


FEINTUCH -Seeking Relatives in Romania from CsikSzenSimon (Sinsimion) #hungary

vfeintuch@...
 

This is a repost of an old message.

I am seeking anyone with knowledge of the whereabouts of Reizel and
Monsey FEINTUCH. They were taken >from Csikszensimon to a mini ghetto
in Tusnad. (The ghetto was in the Tree Husar Hotel.) This was reported
by Jakob Wiesel. >from there he does not know what happened to these
girls. The inhabitants of the Tusnad ghetto were moved to Csikzentgyorgy
(Ciucsingeorgiu), then to Sasregen and >from there to Birkenau.
If anyone knows of their demise or possible escape to safety or any
information along the way please contact me - Victor Feintuch
VictorFeintuch@hotmail.com
Thank you,
Victor Feintuch


Re: Dismoshowa, Hungary 1912 #hungary

alex p miller <alex.miller@...>
 

Jean

It is Disznoshorvat in Borsod megye

If you go to page to in hte ship meanifest the word is clearly legible
under :relative left behind

enjoy

alex



On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:48:55 -0500 "NORMAN FUHRER"
<nfuhrer@bellsouth.net> writes:
Can anyone shed some light on what the actual name of the town might
be?

Ellis Island Passenger Records shows two passengers -- Gyorgy and
Lidia
GERGELY >from Dismoshowa, Hungary (they sailed in Nov. 1912).

Their port of departure was Carnaro, Triest, Austria aboard the
Ivernia.

We believe that Gyorgy was a coal miner.

Any help would be appreciated.

Jean Fuhrer
On Florida's Spacecoast -- USA

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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Szavai/Szavay #hungary

tom klein <h-sig@...>
 

as has been said over and over, you cannot tell if someone is jewish >from their name. for example, in my own family, KLEIN has been changed to KU'TI and to KO:SZEGI, specifically because they are *not* jewish names. in order to get ahead in hungarian society, jews changed their names or converted or whatever, so the name alone is not a good indicator.

even names of german origin are not a reliable indicator, since there was a significant minority of (non-jewish) hungarians of german ethnicity, particularly before world war II.

the only reliable way to figure it out is through research of documented sources.


....... tom klein, toronto

Michele Sankar <sankosy@rogers.com> wrote:


Can anyone tell me about the last name Szavai/Szavay, or if it is
even "Jewish"? We have learned that our great-aunt Erzsebet/Bozsi
GLOCKNER (born in 1890's) married a man named Adolf SZAVAI/SZAVAY who
likely died any time before 1952. He was said to have been high up in
the military.


Hungary SIG #Hungary *re: Austrian Victims of the Holocaust #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

An improved version of the same database can be found at:
http://www.lettertothestars.at/browser_normal/abfrage/index.html
Unfortunately this search engine is only in German. Vorname means
'given name', Nachname means 'family name/surname'. Click on the
first 'Abschicken' button.

The advantage over DOEW's site mentioned by Stephen: details on the
found names are given. Just click on the name(s).

Wildcard searches are allowed (for example 'vene' would bring names
containing 'Venetianer'. However there is no phonetic search,
Venetianer and Wenetianer are two different names.

At 00:00 -0600 12.03.04, H-SIG digest wrote:
Subject: Austrian Victims of the Holocaust
From: "Stephen Schmideg" <stephen@sicore.com.au>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 11:52:26 +1100
X-Message-Number: 12

The Austrian Victims of the Holocaust database with over 60,000 names is
worth looking at, as I found both Austrian and Hungarian relatives listed:

http://www.doew.at/cgi-bin/shoah/shoah.pl?lang=engl

Stephen Schmideg
--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Hungary SIG #Hungary FEINTUCH -Seeking Relatives in Romania from CsikSzenSimon (Sinsimion) #hungary

vfeintuch@...
 

This is a repost of an old message.

I am seeking anyone with knowledge of the whereabouts of Reizel and
Monsey FEINTUCH. They were taken >from Csikszensimon to a mini ghetto
in Tusnad. (The ghetto was in the Tree Husar Hotel.) This was reported
by Jakob Wiesel. >from there he does not know what happened to these
girls. The inhabitants of the Tusnad ghetto were moved to Csikzentgyorgy
(Ciucsingeorgiu), then to Sasregen and >from there to Birkenau.
If anyone knows of their demise or possible escape to safety or any
information along the way please contact me - Victor Feintuch
VictorFeintuch@hotmail.com
Thank you,
Victor Feintuch


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Dismoshowa, Hungary 1912 #hungary

alex p miller <alex.miller@...>
 

Jean

It is Disznoshorvat in Borsod megye

If you go to page to in hte ship meanifest the word is clearly legible
under :relative left behind

enjoy

alex



On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:48:55 -0500 "NORMAN FUHRER"
<nfuhrer@bellsouth.net> writes:
Can anyone shed some light on what the actual name of the town might
be?

Ellis Island Passenger Records shows two passengers -- Gyorgy and
Lidia
GERGELY >from Dismoshowa, Hungary (they sailed in Nov. 1912).

Their port of departure was Carnaro, Triest, Austria aboard the
Ivernia.

We believe that Gyorgy was a coal miner.

Any help would be appreciated.

Jean Fuhrer
On Florida's Spacecoast -- USA

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*Re: Dismoshowa, Hungary 1912 #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

The place is called DISZNOSHORVA'T, also known as
IZSO'FALVA, was located in Borsod county,Edele'ny district. The place still exists in todays Hungary, about 15 miles northwest of=20
Miskolc (search using ShtetlSeeker and MapQuest)
and just on the outskirts of Edele'ny.

This is a perfect example of what I have been recommending for a long time. Please do not trust
what Ellis Islands publishes - in this case they
completely misread the name of this place.
Instead let us see the manuscripts, be it on the
Ellis Island site (which I did) or using Viewmate.

Why is this important? Because handwritings are
easy to misread. In this case, the last column of the manifest has a clearer handwriting of this
place's name. This is how I learned the correct
spelling.

BTW, just a curiosity: the translation of
Disznoshorvat is 'piggy Croatia'. Also notice its
previous name, Izsofalva, meaning 'Izso's
hamlet'. Izso' is a Jewish given name (Isidor)
so this place may have had many Jews.

At 00:00 -0600 12.03.04, H-SIG digest wrote:
Subject: Re: Dismoshowa, Hungary 1912
From: "NORMAN FUHRER" <nfuhrer@bellsouth.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:48:55 -0500
X-Message-Number: 10

Can anyone shed some light on what the actual name of the town might be?

Ellis Island Passenger Records shows two passengers -- Gyorgy and Lidia
GERGELY >from Dismoshowa, Hungary (they sailed in Nov. 1912).

Any help would be appreciated.

Jean Fuhrer
--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Hungary SIG #Hungary *Re: Dismoshowa, Hungary 1912 #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

The place is called DISZNOSHORVA'T, also known as
IZSO'FALVA, was located in Borsod county,Edele'ny district. The place still exists in todays Hungary, about 15 miles northwest of=20
Miskolc (search using ShtetlSeeker and MapQuest)
and just on the outskirts of Edele'ny.

This is a perfect example of what I have been recommending for a long time. Please do not trust
what Ellis Islands publishes - in this case they
completely misread the name of this place.
Instead let us see the manuscripts, be it on the
Ellis Island site (which I did) or using Viewmate.

Why is this important? Because handwritings are
easy to misread. In this case, the last column of the manifest has a clearer handwriting of this
place's name. This is how I learned the correct
spelling.

BTW, just a curiosity: the translation of
Disznoshorvat is 'piggy Croatia'. Also notice its
previous name, Izsofalva, meaning 'Izso's
hamlet'. Izso' is a Jewish given name (Isidor)
so this place may have had many Jews.

At 00:00 -0600 12.03.04, H-SIG digest wrote:
Subject: Re: Dismoshowa, Hungary 1912
From: "NORMAN FUHRER" <nfuhrer@bellsouth.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:48:55 -0500
X-Message-Number: 10

Can anyone shed some light on what the actual name of the town might be?

Ellis Island Passenger Records shows two passengers -- Gyorgy and Lidia
GERGELY >from Dismoshowa, Hungary (they sailed in Nov. 1912).

Any help would be appreciated.

Jean Fuhrer
--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Books: Hungarian Jews #hungary

Gabriela Svatos
 

There are currently a number of books listed on e-bay pertaining to the jews
of Hungary. Here are some examples:

1)MEASEF LEKOL HAMACHANOT – A Halacha book of Tfilin laws. A long commentary
to the Shulchan Aruch. Second volume of this series books, written by Rabbi
Yechiel Michl Gold >from Munkacs. Printed in Munkacs 1937. The author did not
continue this work, and he perished in the Holocaust in 1944. With
approbation by the Rabbi of Munkacs – Rabbi Chaim Elazar Shapira, whom the
author was his student. With other approbations, by the great Rabbis of
Hungary. 256 pages and 4 pages of “Prenumernaten”. Very good condition.

2)Jewish Yizkor book DES and surroundings HUNGARY

This is a memories Yizkor book of DES and surroundings: Bethlenm ,
Magyarlapos, Retteg, Nagylonda.
It was edited by the organization of those who had lived in Des, in Israel,
around 60's, the date is not written exactely.
The book relates the Historty of the ancien town, the culture, the
Synagogues and Rabbies, the Press, Youth movements, schools, the Jewish life
in the town, the destruction of the town, and the extermination of the
Jewish during the WW2, the Sheerit Hapleita that a part of them came to
Israel.With A lot of touching pictures >from that period of time, (prior
WW2), places people and groups, Yizkor pages with names an pictures of
victimes of the Holocaust.

3)GENOCIDE AND RESCUE by David Cesaran (editor)i-The holocaust in Hungary
1944


**Please note that I am not affiliated with any of these booksellers, nor
do I benefit in any way >from the sale of their books. Just passing along
the info.

Regards,
Gabi

Gabriela Svatos
Richmond Hill, Ontario
E-mail: gsvatos@hotmail.com
Business E-mail: bookstore@agawa.com
Business URL: www.abe.com/home/GSVATOS


Re: Batei Ungarn Jerusalem #hungary

Polakovic Daniel <daniel.polakovic@...>
 

Subject: RE: Batei Ungarn Jerusalem
Bs"d

Asher Leib Brisk edited on base of Pinkas of Hevra Kadisha in =

Jerusalem a very interest book named "Chelqat Mechoqeq". This book contains =

a lists of buried men and women on Har Hazittim with many copies of thei=
r =

gravestones (>from Pinkas of Hevra Kadisha) and was edited in Jerusalem =

printing house of Sh. H. Zuckermann in the years 1901-1913 (5661-5673). =
In =

1969(?) was reprinted in complet set.
This book is divided in some booklets ("choveret"), further in parts =

("cheleq"), strips ("retzua") and items ("machberet"). Because this divi=
sion =

is a little complicated, I give here a complet bibliographical descripti=
on:

Booklet 1:
was not published, the publishing of this book was beginned >from booklet=
2.

Booklet 2/Part 1/Strip 1:
Cemetery part Nr. 7 known as "Qahal chasidim". Items (1)-4: (4), 53 foli=
os.

Booklet 3 (in print errously as 4)/Part 1/Strip 3:
Part 4, the so-called "Part of Prophet Zecharia", with the copy >from the=
=

Pinkas of Hevra Kadisha. (1), 7 folios.

Booklet 4/Part 2/Strip 5:
Parts 4 and 5 (middle and diagonal cemetery part), with the copy >from th=
e =

Pinkas of Hevra Kadisha. (1), 5, 21 folios.

Booklet 5/Part 2/Strip 5:
Part 6, an exaggerated >from south part of the Mikdash, with the copy of =
=

Pinkas of Hevra Kadisha. (1), 20 folios.

Booklet 6/Part 2/Strip 2:
Part 7, a south part of the cemetery, with the copy of Pinkas of Hevra =

Kadisha.
(1), 21 folios.

Booklet 7/Part 2/Strip 5:
Part 8, known as "Chelqat ha-rabanim", with the copy of Pinkas of Hevra =
=

Kadisha. Items (1)-4: (1), 14; (1), 15-26; (1), 27-38; (1), 39-48 folios=
.

Booklet 8 (in print errously as 9)/Part 2/Strip 5:
Parts 10, 11, 12, "Cholera-Part", with the copy of Pinkas of Hevra Kadis=
ha.
Items 1-4: (1), 11; (1), (12)-21; 22-31; (1) 32-47 folios.

I hope that in this precious historical source you can find your ancesto=
r =

that was buried there.

With best wishes,

Daniel Polakovic, Prague


Hungary SIG #Hungary Books: Hungarian Jews #hungary

Gabriela Svatos
 

There are currently a number of books listed on e-bay pertaining to the jews
of Hungary. Here are some examples:

1)MEASEF LEKOL HAMACHANOT – A Halacha book of Tfilin laws. A long commentary
to the Shulchan Aruch. Second volume of this series books, written by Rabbi
Yechiel Michl Gold >from Munkacs. Printed in Munkacs 1937. The author did not
continue this work, and he perished in the Holocaust in 1944. With
approbation by the Rabbi of Munkacs – Rabbi Chaim Elazar Shapira, whom the
author was his student. With other approbations, by the great Rabbis of
Hungary. 256 pages and 4 pages of “Prenumernaten”. Very good condition.

2)Jewish Yizkor book DES and surroundings HUNGARY

This is a memories Yizkor book of DES and surroundings: Bethlenm ,
Magyarlapos, Retteg, Nagylonda.
It was edited by the organization of those who had lived in Des, in Israel,
around 60's, the date is not written exactely.
The book relates the Historty of the ancien town, the culture, the
Synagogues and Rabbies, the Press, Youth movements, schools, the Jewish life
in the town, the destruction of the town, and the extermination of the
Jewish during the WW2, the Sheerit Hapleita that a part of them came to
Israel.With A lot of touching pictures >from that period of time, (prior
WW2), places people and groups, Yizkor pages with names an pictures of
victimes of the Holocaust.

3)GENOCIDE AND RESCUE by David Cesaran (editor)i-The holocaust in Hungary
1944


**Please note that I am not affiliated with any of these booksellers, nor
do I benefit in any way >from the sale of their books. Just passing along
the info.

Regards,
Gabi

Gabriela Svatos
Richmond Hill, Ontario
E-mail: gsvatos@hotmail.com
Business E-mail: bookstore@agawa.com
Business URL: www.abe.com/home/GSVATOS


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: RE: Batei Ungarn Jerusalem #hungary

Polakovic Daniel <daniel.polakovic@...>
 

Subject: RE: Batei Ungarn Jerusalem
Bs"d

Asher Leib Brisk edited on base of Pinkas of Hevra Kadisha in =

Jerusalem a very interest book named "Chelqat Mechoqeq". This book contains =

a lists of buried men and women on Har Hazittim with many copies of thei=
r =

gravestones (>from Pinkas of Hevra Kadisha) and was edited in Jerusalem =

printing house of Sh. H. Zuckermann in the years 1901-1913 (5661-5673). =
In =

1969(?) was reprinted in complet set.
This book is divided in some booklets ("choveret"), further in parts =

("cheleq"), strips ("retzua") and items ("machberet"). Because this divi=
sion =

is a little complicated, I give here a complet bibliographical descripti=
on:

Booklet 1:
was not published, the publishing of this book was beginned >from booklet=
2.

Booklet 2/Part 1/Strip 1:
Cemetery part Nr. 7 known as "Qahal chasidim". Items (1)-4: (4), 53 foli=
os.

Booklet 3 (in print errously as 4)/Part 1/Strip 3:
Part 4, the so-called "Part of Prophet Zecharia", with the copy >from the=
=

Pinkas of Hevra Kadisha. (1), 7 folios.

Booklet 4/Part 2/Strip 5:
Parts 4 and 5 (middle and diagonal cemetery part), with the copy >from th=
e =

Pinkas of Hevra Kadisha. (1), 5, 21 folios.

Booklet 5/Part 2/Strip 5:
Part 6, an exaggerated >from south part of the Mikdash, with the copy of =
=

Pinkas of Hevra Kadisha. (1), 20 folios.

Booklet 6/Part 2/Strip 2:
Part 7, a south part of the cemetery, with the copy of Pinkas of Hevra =

Kadisha.
(1), 21 folios.

Booklet 7/Part 2/Strip 5:
Part 8, known as "Chelqat ha-rabanim", with the copy of Pinkas of Hevra =
=

Kadisha. Items (1)-4: (1), 14; (1), 15-26; (1), 27-38; (1), 39-48 folios=
.

Booklet 8 (in print errously as 9)/Part 2/Strip 5:
Parts 10, 11, 12, "Cholera-Part", with the copy of Pinkas of Hevra Kadis=
ha.
Items 1-4: (1), 11; (1), (12)-21; 22-31; (1) 32-47 folios.

I hope that in this precious historical source you can find your ancesto=
r =

that was buried there.

With best wishes,

Daniel Polakovic, Prague


Re: Batei Ungarn #hungary

M&M Schejtman <mario_m@...>
 

Hello all.

Thank you to all who helped me.
Because of Sandor Bacskai's idea I called kollel Shomrei Hachomot
at (+972-2) 5322-993.
I talked with Rabbi Lefkowitz who was very very helpful.
Any one who at any time received any type of money >from the
Kollel is written in their books.
He found my family for me >from 1904. Anytime a child was born,
more money was given to the family, so a note was made in the
book. When one of the girls got married the monthly payment was
reduced, so another note was made. When the father of the family
passed away a note was made, so now I have his death date.
Rabbi Lefkowitz said that I could come by anytime and look at the
book and maybe even make a photo copy.

This worked out great.

Good luck to all of you.

Merav Schejtman
Jerusalem


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Batei Ungarn #hungary

M&M Schejtman <mario_m@...>
 

Hello all.

Thank you to all who helped me.
Because of Sandor Bacskai's idea I called kollel Shomrei Hachomot
at (+972-2) 5322-993.
I talked with Rabbi Lefkowitz who was very very helpful.
Any one who at any time received any type of money >from the
Kollel is written in their books.
He found my family for me >from 1904. Anytime a child was born,
more money was given to the family, so a note was made in the
book. When one of the girls got married the monthly payment was
reduced, so another note was made. When the father of the family
passed away a note was made, so now I have his death date.
Rabbi Lefkowitz said that I could come by anytime and look at the
book and maybe even make a photo copy.

This worked out great.

Good luck to all of you.

Merav Schejtman
Jerusalem


Searching CHUSHANSKY #general

Jessica Schein <jesshschein@...>
 

I am trying to find the descendants of Jacob (Yankel) Chushansky or
Chusensky probably of Minsk.

He may be my greatuncle.

A Yankel Chusensky of Minsk aged 40 arrrived in NY in 1906 with his 15
year-old daughter Golda.

In 1913 there is an Ellis Island record for Leah Chushansky (age 39) and
her children going to be with her husband Jacob. Their place of origin
is listed as Piekrakow.

The children are listed as follows:

Rivke 18 years
Joseph 16 years
Pieshe 14 years
Aron 8 years
Joel 1 year.

Are these two Jacobs the same? I do not find any other Ellis Island
records for anyone with a similar surname name.

If this is the same Jacob he must have returned to Russia since there is
a baby in 1913. Of course, he could have travelled through a different
port of entry.

No Chusensky or Chushansky shows up on the 1910 census indexes and I can
not find him at the address given on either the 1906 or 1913 manifest,
but the microfilms are very faint.

My grandfather changed his name and I was told that his brother changed
his name too, but I'm not sure whether it was to Schein or something
else. In addition, my greatuncle took his family west, probably to
Louisiana. There was no known further contact between him and my
grandfather.

So, if you have an information which would help me, please contact me
privately. Thanks.

Jessica Schein
NYC


Lake View Hotel, Lakewood, NJ Update #general

RoniKrinsky <ronikrinsky@...>
 

The correct name of the hotel in Lakewood, NJ is the Lake View. It was
identified by Judi Robinson, the librarian at the Ocean County Library in
Lakewood.

Many thanks to all the others for their emails---who attempted to identify
the photo and for their stories they shared.

Roni Krinsky
Queens,NY

Email:RoniKrinsky@aol.com


Re: Witz -- a town in the old Russian Empire #general

Alice Josephs
 

Thank you for all the suggestions for the location of "Witz, Russia", as
noted in a set of naturalization papers. Possibles turned out to be Vidj
(Widz)in Lithuania, Vidzy and Wirze in Belarus.

Alice Josephs
UK


Subject: Witz -- a town in the old Russian Empire

Does anybody know what the present day name is of a place called
Witz, a place of birth noted in British naturalization papers of a
former citizen of the Russian Empire? I've had a go with the Daitch
Mokotoff search on the Shtetlseeker but obviously there are quite a
few contenders. I was wondering if anyone knew this as an anglicized > or old name of a town. I do realize it is also the ending of many
surnames but this is definitely a place.

I would appreciate the answer sent to me privately as well as to the
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching CHUSHANSKY #general

Jessica Schein <jesshschein@...>
 

I am trying to find the descendants of Jacob (Yankel) Chushansky or
Chusensky probably of Minsk.

He may be my greatuncle.

A Yankel Chusensky of Minsk aged 40 arrrived in NY in 1906 with his 15
year-old daughter Golda.

In 1913 there is an Ellis Island record for Leah Chushansky (age 39) and
her children going to be with her husband Jacob. Their place of origin
is listed as Piekrakow.

The children are listed as follows:

Rivke 18 years
Joseph 16 years
Pieshe 14 years
Aron 8 years
Joel 1 year.

Are these two Jacobs the same? I do not find any other Ellis Island
records for anyone with a similar surname name.

If this is the same Jacob he must have returned to Russia since there is
a baby in 1913. Of course, he could have travelled through a different
port of entry.

No Chusensky or Chushansky shows up on the 1910 census indexes and I can
not find him at the address given on either the 1906 or 1913 manifest,
but the microfilms are very faint.

My grandfather changed his name and I was told that his brother changed
his name too, but I'm not sure whether it was to Schein or something
else. In addition, my greatuncle took his family west, probably to
Louisiana. There was no known further contact between him and my
grandfather.

So, if you have an information which would help me, please contact me
privately. Thanks.

Jessica Schein
NYC