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Books: Hungarian Jews #hungary

Gabriela Svatos
 

There are currently a number of books listed on e-bay pertaining to the jews
of Hungary. Here are some examples:

1)MEASEF LEKOL HAMACHANOT – A Halacha book of Tfilin laws. A long commentary
to the Shulchan Aruch. Second volume of this series books, written by Rabbi
Yechiel Michl Gold >from Munkacs. Printed in Munkacs 1937. The author did not
continue this work, and he perished in the Holocaust in 1944. With
approbation by the Rabbi of Munkacs – Rabbi Chaim Elazar Shapira, whom the
author was his student. With other approbations, by the great Rabbis of
Hungary. 256 pages and 4 pages of “Prenumernaten”. Very good condition.

2)Jewish Yizkor book DES and surroundings HUNGARY

This is a memories Yizkor book of DES and surroundings: Bethlenm ,
Magyarlapos, Retteg, Nagylonda.
It was edited by the organization of those who had lived in Des, in Israel,
around 60's, the date is not written exactely.
The book relates the Historty of the ancien town, the culture, the
Synagogues and Rabbies, the Press, Youth movements, schools, the Jewish life
in the town, the destruction of the town, and the extermination of the
Jewish during the WW2, the Sheerit Hapleita that a part of them came to
Israel.With A lot of touching pictures >from that period of time, (prior
WW2), places people and groups, Yizkor pages with names an pictures of
victimes of the Holocaust.

3)GENOCIDE AND RESCUE by David Cesaran (editor)i-The holocaust in Hungary
1944


**Please note that I am not affiliated with any of these booksellers, nor
do I benefit in any way >from the sale of their books. Just passing along
the info.

Regards,
Gabi

Gabriela Svatos
Richmond Hill, Ontario
E-mail: gsvatos@hotmail.com
Business E-mail: bookstore@agawa.com
Business URL: www.abe.com/home/GSVATOS


Re: Batei Ungarn Jerusalem #hungary

Polakovic Daniel <daniel.polakovic@...>
 

Subject: RE: Batei Ungarn Jerusalem
Bs"d

Asher Leib Brisk edited on base of Pinkas of Hevra Kadisha in =

Jerusalem a very interest book named "Chelqat Mechoqeq". This book contains =

a lists of buried men and women on Har Hazittim with many copies of thei=
r =

gravestones (>from Pinkas of Hevra Kadisha) and was edited in Jerusalem =

printing house of Sh. H. Zuckermann in the years 1901-1913 (5661-5673). =
In =

1969(?) was reprinted in complet set.
This book is divided in some booklets ("choveret"), further in parts =

("cheleq"), strips ("retzua") and items ("machberet"). Because this divi=
sion =

is a little complicated, I give here a complet bibliographical descripti=
on:

Booklet 1:
was not published, the publishing of this book was beginned >from booklet=
2.

Booklet 2/Part 1/Strip 1:
Cemetery part Nr. 7 known as "Qahal chasidim". Items (1)-4: (4), 53 foli=
os.

Booklet 3 (in print errously as 4)/Part 1/Strip 3:
Part 4, the so-called "Part of Prophet Zecharia", with the copy >from the=
=

Pinkas of Hevra Kadisha. (1), 7 folios.

Booklet 4/Part 2/Strip 5:
Parts 4 and 5 (middle and diagonal cemetery part), with the copy >from th=
e =

Pinkas of Hevra Kadisha. (1), 5, 21 folios.

Booklet 5/Part 2/Strip 5:
Part 6, an exaggerated >from south part of the Mikdash, with the copy of =
=

Pinkas of Hevra Kadisha. (1), 20 folios.

Booklet 6/Part 2/Strip 2:
Part 7, a south part of the cemetery, with the copy of Pinkas of Hevra =

Kadisha.
(1), 21 folios.

Booklet 7/Part 2/Strip 5:
Part 8, known as "Chelqat ha-rabanim", with the copy of Pinkas of Hevra =
=

Kadisha. Items (1)-4: (1), 14; (1), 15-26; (1), 27-38; (1), 39-48 folios=
.

Booklet 8 (in print errously as 9)/Part 2/Strip 5:
Parts 10, 11, 12, "Cholera-Part", with the copy of Pinkas of Hevra Kadis=
ha.
Items 1-4: (1), 11; (1), (12)-21; 22-31; (1) 32-47 folios.

I hope that in this precious historical source you can find your ancesto=
r =

that was buried there.

With best wishes,

Daniel Polakovic, Prague


Hungary SIG #Hungary Books: Hungarian Jews #hungary

Gabriela Svatos
 

There are currently a number of books listed on e-bay pertaining to the jews
of Hungary. Here are some examples:

1)MEASEF LEKOL HAMACHANOT – A Halacha book of Tfilin laws. A long commentary
to the Shulchan Aruch. Second volume of this series books, written by Rabbi
Yechiel Michl Gold >from Munkacs. Printed in Munkacs 1937. The author did not
continue this work, and he perished in the Holocaust in 1944. With
approbation by the Rabbi of Munkacs – Rabbi Chaim Elazar Shapira, whom the
author was his student. With other approbations, by the great Rabbis of
Hungary. 256 pages and 4 pages of “Prenumernaten”. Very good condition.

2)Jewish Yizkor book DES and surroundings HUNGARY

This is a memories Yizkor book of DES and surroundings: Bethlenm ,
Magyarlapos, Retteg, Nagylonda.
It was edited by the organization of those who had lived in Des, in Israel,
around 60's, the date is not written exactely.
The book relates the Historty of the ancien town, the culture, the
Synagogues and Rabbies, the Press, Youth movements, schools, the Jewish life
in the town, the destruction of the town, and the extermination of the
Jewish during the WW2, the Sheerit Hapleita that a part of them came to
Israel.With A lot of touching pictures >from that period of time, (prior
WW2), places people and groups, Yizkor pages with names an pictures of
victimes of the Holocaust.

3)GENOCIDE AND RESCUE by David Cesaran (editor)i-The holocaust in Hungary
1944


**Please note that I am not affiliated with any of these booksellers, nor
do I benefit in any way >from the sale of their books. Just passing along
the info.

Regards,
Gabi

Gabriela Svatos
Richmond Hill, Ontario
E-mail: gsvatos@hotmail.com
Business E-mail: bookstore@agawa.com
Business URL: www.abe.com/home/GSVATOS


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: RE: Batei Ungarn Jerusalem #hungary

Polakovic Daniel <daniel.polakovic@...>
 

Subject: RE: Batei Ungarn Jerusalem
Bs"d

Asher Leib Brisk edited on base of Pinkas of Hevra Kadisha in =

Jerusalem a very interest book named "Chelqat Mechoqeq". This book contains =

a lists of buried men and women on Har Hazittim with many copies of thei=
r =

gravestones (>from Pinkas of Hevra Kadisha) and was edited in Jerusalem =

printing house of Sh. H. Zuckermann in the years 1901-1913 (5661-5673). =
In =

1969(?) was reprinted in complet set.
This book is divided in some booklets ("choveret"), further in parts =

("cheleq"), strips ("retzua") and items ("machberet"). Because this divi=
sion =

is a little complicated, I give here a complet bibliographical descripti=
on:

Booklet 1:
was not published, the publishing of this book was beginned >from booklet=
2.

Booklet 2/Part 1/Strip 1:
Cemetery part Nr. 7 known as "Qahal chasidim". Items (1)-4: (4), 53 foli=
os.

Booklet 3 (in print errously as 4)/Part 1/Strip 3:
Part 4, the so-called "Part of Prophet Zecharia", with the copy >from the=
=

Pinkas of Hevra Kadisha. (1), 7 folios.

Booklet 4/Part 2/Strip 5:
Parts 4 and 5 (middle and diagonal cemetery part), with the copy >from th=
e =

Pinkas of Hevra Kadisha. (1), 5, 21 folios.

Booklet 5/Part 2/Strip 5:
Part 6, an exaggerated >from south part of the Mikdash, with the copy of =
=

Pinkas of Hevra Kadisha. (1), 20 folios.

Booklet 6/Part 2/Strip 2:
Part 7, a south part of the cemetery, with the copy of Pinkas of Hevra =

Kadisha.
(1), 21 folios.

Booklet 7/Part 2/Strip 5:
Part 8, known as "Chelqat ha-rabanim", with the copy of Pinkas of Hevra =
=

Kadisha. Items (1)-4: (1), 14; (1), 15-26; (1), 27-38; (1), 39-48 folios=
.

Booklet 8 (in print errously as 9)/Part 2/Strip 5:
Parts 10, 11, 12, "Cholera-Part", with the copy of Pinkas of Hevra Kadis=
ha.
Items 1-4: (1), 11; (1), (12)-21; 22-31; (1) 32-47 folios.

I hope that in this precious historical source you can find your ancesto=
r =

that was buried there.

With best wishes,

Daniel Polakovic, Prague


Re: Batei Ungarn #hungary

M&M Schejtman <mario_m@...>
 

Hello all.

Thank you to all who helped me.
Because of Sandor Bacskai's idea I called kollel Shomrei Hachomot
at (+972-2) 5322-993.
I talked with Rabbi Lefkowitz who was very very helpful.
Any one who at any time received any type of money >from the
Kollel is written in their books.
He found my family for me >from 1904. Anytime a child was born,
more money was given to the family, so a note was made in the
book. When one of the girls got married the monthly payment was
reduced, so another note was made. When the father of the family
passed away a note was made, so now I have his death date.
Rabbi Lefkowitz said that I could come by anytime and look at the
book and maybe even make a photo copy.

This worked out great.

Good luck to all of you.

Merav Schejtman
Jerusalem


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Batei Ungarn #hungary

M&M Schejtman <mario_m@...>
 

Hello all.

Thank you to all who helped me.
Because of Sandor Bacskai's idea I called kollel Shomrei Hachomot
at (+972-2) 5322-993.
I talked with Rabbi Lefkowitz who was very very helpful.
Any one who at any time received any type of money >from the
Kollel is written in their books.
He found my family for me >from 1904. Anytime a child was born,
more money was given to the family, so a note was made in the
book. When one of the girls got married the monthly payment was
reduced, so another note was made. When the father of the family
passed away a note was made, so now I have his death date.
Rabbi Lefkowitz said that I could come by anytime and look at the
book and maybe even make a photo copy.

This worked out great.

Good luck to all of you.

Merav Schejtman
Jerusalem


Searching CHUSHANSKY #general

Jessica Schein <jesshschein@...>
 

I am trying to find the descendants of Jacob (Yankel) Chushansky or
Chusensky probably of Minsk.

He may be my greatuncle.

A Yankel Chusensky of Minsk aged 40 arrrived in NY in 1906 with his 15
year-old daughter Golda.

In 1913 there is an Ellis Island record for Leah Chushansky (age 39) and
her children going to be with her husband Jacob. Their place of origin
is listed as Piekrakow.

The children are listed as follows:

Rivke 18 years
Joseph 16 years
Pieshe 14 years
Aron 8 years
Joel 1 year.

Are these two Jacobs the same? I do not find any other Ellis Island
records for anyone with a similar surname name.

If this is the same Jacob he must have returned to Russia since there is
a baby in 1913. Of course, he could have travelled through a different
port of entry.

No Chusensky or Chushansky shows up on the 1910 census indexes and I can
not find him at the address given on either the 1906 or 1913 manifest,
but the microfilms are very faint.

My grandfather changed his name and I was told that his brother changed
his name too, but I'm not sure whether it was to Schein or something
else. In addition, my greatuncle took his family west, probably to
Louisiana. There was no known further contact between him and my
grandfather.

So, if you have an information which would help me, please contact me
privately. Thanks.

Jessica Schein
NYC


Lake View Hotel, Lakewood, NJ Update #general

RoniKrinsky <ronikrinsky@...>
 

The correct name of the hotel in Lakewood, NJ is the Lake View. It was
identified by Judi Robinson, the librarian at the Ocean County Library in
Lakewood.

Many thanks to all the others for their emails---who attempted to identify
the photo and for their stories they shared.

Roni Krinsky
Queens,NY

Email:RoniKrinsky@aol.com


Re: Witz -- a town in the old Russian Empire #general

Alice Josephs
 

Thank you for all the suggestions for the location of "Witz, Russia", as
noted in a set of naturalization papers. Possibles turned out to be Vidj
(Widz)in Lithuania, Vidzy and Wirze in Belarus.

Alice Josephs
UK


Subject: Witz -- a town in the old Russian Empire

Does anybody know what the present day name is of a place called
Witz, a place of birth noted in British naturalization papers of a
former citizen of the Russian Empire? I've had a go with the Daitch
Mokotoff search on the Shtetlseeker but obviously there are quite a
few contenders. I was wondering if anyone knew this as an anglicized > or old name of a town. I do realize it is also the ending of many
surnames but this is definitely a place.

I would appreciate the answer sent to me privately as well as to the
list as I receive the digest version.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching CHUSHANSKY #general

Jessica Schein <jesshschein@...>
 

I am trying to find the descendants of Jacob (Yankel) Chushansky or
Chusensky probably of Minsk.

He may be my greatuncle.

A Yankel Chusensky of Minsk aged 40 arrrived in NY in 1906 with his 15
year-old daughter Golda.

In 1913 there is an Ellis Island record for Leah Chushansky (age 39) and
her children going to be with her husband Jacob. Their place of origin
is listed as Piekrakow.

The children are listed as follows:

Rivke 18 years
Joseph 16 years
Pieshe 14 years
Aron 8 years
Joel 1 year.

Are these two Jacobs the same? I do not find any other Ellis Island
records for anyone with a similar surname name.

If this is the same Jacob he must have returned to Russia since there is
a baby in 1913. Of course, he could have travelled through a different
port of entry.

No Chusensky or Chushansky shows up on the 1910 census indexes and I can
not find him at the address given on either the 1906 or 1913 manifest,
but the microfilms are very faint.

My grandfather changed his name and I was told that his brother changed
his name too, but I'm not sure whether it was to Schein or something
else. In addition, my greatuncle took his family west, probably to
Louisiana. There was no known further contact between him and my
grandfather.

So, if you have an information which would help me, please contact me
privately. Thanks.

Jessica Schein
NYC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lake View Hotel, Lakewood, NJ Update #general

RoniKrinsky <ronikrinsky@...>
 

The correct name of the hotel in Lakewood, NJ is the Lake View. It was
identified by Judi Robinson, the librarian at the Ocean County Library in
Lakewood.

Many thanks to all the others for their emails---who attempted to identify
the photo and for their stories they shared.

Roni Krinsky
Queens,NY

Email:RoniKrinsky@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Witz -- a town in the old Russian Empire #general

Alice Josephs
 

Thank you for all the suggestions for the location of "Witz, Russia", as
noted in a set of naturalization papers. Possibles turned out to be Vidj
(Widz)in Lithuania, Vidzy and Wirze in Belarus.

Alice Josephs
UK


Subject: Witz -- a town in the old Russian Empire

Does anybody know what the present day name is of a place called
Witz, a place of birth noted in British naturalization papers of a
former citizen of the Russian Empire? I've had a go with the Daitch
Mokotoff search on the Shtetlseeker but obviously there are quite a
few contenders. I was wondering if anyone knew this as an anglicized > or old name of a town. I do realize it is also the ending of many
surnames but this is definitely a place.

I would appreciate the answer sent to me privately as well as to the
list as I receive the digest version.


Searching METZLER #general

Jessica Schein <jesshschein@...>
 

I am trying to find the descendants of Morris Metzler born in c 1854
mostly likely >from in or around Krakow.

My grandmother's passenger ship manifest indicates that she is was going
to stay with Moritz Metzler, her uncle. The addresses coincide. As her
children did not know of any family in the US, I am trying to find
descendants of Morris to determine what happened.

My grandmother's father was a Koppelman and mother Bergoffen, so it is
possible Bertha was the relation.

The rest of her family remained in Krakow and perished under the Nazis.

According to the 1900 census:
Morris immigrated to NY around 1875
Lived in Harlem
Married to Bertha
Children:
Mary b 1880
Harry b 1881
Fanny b 1885
Abram b 1886
Samuel b 1884

In the 1910 census
there is a daughter Rose age 32
and daughter Fay age 23 living at home
as well as a daughter Sarah Celia Harris age 26 and her husband at the
same address.

According to NY City Directories Morris was a jeweler.

The 1910 census shows Harry L. Metzler in Harlem
married to Ida
son Lawrence age 3

The rest of the sons and unmarried daughters are not on either this or
the 1920 census. (Unless they radically changed names).

Morris and Bertha are missing in 1920.

In 1920 Harry and Ida have a son Seymour age 7

Both Seymour (d 1991) and Lawrence (d 1984) are in the SS Death Index

Anyone with any information please contact me privately.

Thank you.

Jessica Schein
NYC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching METZLER #general

Jessica Schein <jesshschein@...>
 

I am trying to find the descendants of Morris Metzler born in c 1854
mostly likely >from in or around Krakow.

My grandmother's passenger ship manifest indicates that she is was going
to stay with Moritz Metzler, her uncle. The addresses coincide. As her
children did not know of any family in the US, I am trying to find
descendants of Morris to determine what happened.

My grandmother's father was a Koppelman and mother Bergoffen, so it is
possible Bertha was the relation.

The rest of her family remained in Krakow and perished under the Nazis.

According to the 1900 census:
Morris immigrated to NY around 1875
Lived in Harlem
Married to Bertha
Children:
Mary b 1880
Harry b 1881
Fanny b 1885
Abram b 1886
Samuel b 1884

In the 1910 census
there is a daughter Rose age 32
and daughter Fay age 23 living at home
as well as a daughter Sarah Celia Harris age 26 and her husband at the
same address.

According to NY City Directories Morris was a jeweler.

The 1910 census shows Harry L. Metzler in Harlem
married to Ida
son Lawrence age 3

The rest of the sons and unmarried daughters are not on either this or
the 1920 census. (Unless they radically changed names).

Morris and Bertha are missing in 1920.

In 1920 Harry and Ida have a son Seymour age 7

Both Seymour (d 1991) and Lawrence (d 1984) are in the SS Death Index

Anyone with any information please contact me privately.

Thank you.

Jessica Schein
NYC


Searching for CHERKINSKY descendants #general

Robert Sherins <rsherins@...>
 

Dear Genners,

Looking for surnames >from Konotop, Russia (Konotop is now located in
western Ukraine):
1. CHERKINSKY
2. FRADKIN
3. CASTLEMAN

My grandfather, Louis Cherkinsky, was born in Konotop, Russia, in 1875
(Konotop is now located in western Ukraine) and arrived in New York in
1896. He traveled with his sister, Miasha (Miasin/ Mariasya)
Cherkinsky. Miasha married a Fradkin in New York, but his given name is
unknown . Another sister, Ida Cherkinsky, also immigrated to New York,
but the exact date of her arrival is unknown. Ida Cherkinsky married a
Castleman in New York, but his given name is also unknown.

I have been unable to locate any U.S. records or descendants of either
Miasha Cherkinsky or Ida Cherkinsky. However, I do have the family
records >from Konotop. If you are related to either of these families
please contact me by e-mail.

Robert Sherins
Pacific Palisades, CA
rsherins@gte.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for CHERKINSKY descendants #general

Robert Sherins <rsherins@...>
 

Dear Genners,

Looking for surnames >from Konotop, Russia (Konotop is now located in
western Ukraine):
1. CHERKINSKY
2. FRADKIN
3. CASTLEMAN

My grandfather, Louis Cherkinsky, was born in Konotop, Russia, in 1875
(Konotop is now located in western Ukraine) and arrived in New York in
1896. He traveled with his sister, Miasha (Miasin/ Mariasya)
Cherkinsky. Miasha married a Fradkin in New York, but his given name is
unknown . Another sister, Ida Cherkinsky, also immigrated to New York,
but the exact date of her arrival is unknown. Ida Cherkinsky married a
Castleman in New York, but his given name is also unknown.

I have been unable to locate any U.S. records or descendants of either
Miasha Cherkinsky or Ida Cherkinsky. However, I do have the family
records >from Konotop. If you are related to either of these families
please contact me by e-mail.

Robert Sherins
Pacific Palisades, CA
rsherins@gte.net


Re: Schneur Zalman and other well-known Rabbis #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Group,

Whether or not you're Lubavitcher, or Chasidic, or religious, those of
you with (or have relatives with) Hebrew names that are same as well-known
Rabbis should try to determine if your name ultimately comes >from outside
your family. Obviously, most of us already have already tried to
determine who we're named after, and also tried to determine who that
person got their name >from in the family.

But if you have the same name as a famous Rabbi, you should also check
their death year to see if it was shortly before the birth of that
great-great grandparent/uncle/aunt who also had their name. Although
short of talking to people who are probably no longer around, there's no
way to prove a name connection, the closer the two events were, the more
likely that the ancestor was named after that Rabbi, and if your family
was >from the same area in Europe as the Rabbi, then it's even more likely.

Remember, our families in Europe were more likely to be much larger
than now, and with 8 or 10 or more kids in multiple, it was easy to run
out of dead relatives who needed somebody named after them. To give a
baby the long, wise, and great life they deserved, the name of a
long-lived, wise, and great (but unrelated) Rabbi was sometimes used.

This is problematic with some common names. For example, most Menachem
Mendels in Europe were probably not named after the Lubavitcher Rabbi of
that name (the last Lubavitcher Rabbi was named after his great-great
grandfather, who had the same name), but for most names, this could open
up new things for the one or two of you out there running out of leads to
pursue. And for most of us seeking connections to great Rabbis, if you're
like me, the name is the only connection we'll ever have.

Thanks for reading.

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.

seeking LEWITAN (Goworow, Myszyniec); SAPIRA (Gac, Pol.); NIEDOBITEK,
MIRELMAM (Rypin, Pol.); BLANK, GOLD, KORN, REBHUN/RAPHAN, STRICK (Debica,
Rzemien, Mala, Niedwiazda, Gorlice, Ropczyce, and Rzeszow area, Pol.);
ATLAS (Frankfort, Ger. and Vienna/Wien, Austria); HERZOG (Vienna/Wien,
Austria); MARGOLIS (Odessa, Ukr.); LEIMAN/LYMAN (Krakow, Pol.)


Identical First Names #general

daphna brafman <daphnabrafman@...>
 

This subject has already discussed here but I don't remember the conclusion;
that is why I am bringing it up again. My grandfather Avraham had a brother
Eliezer. Their father ,Leibish, also had a brother, Eliezer. The father of
Leibish and Eliezer is called Lajzor Jankiel. In other words- a father and
son with the same first name. A poor mathematician like me doesn't know what
to make out of it.
By the way- Until not long ago the information I had was that Lejzor Jankiel
was just Yankel.
I know that jews in Poland did not name children after their parents. Could
Lejzor be something else than Eliezer?
Daphna Brafman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Schneur Zalman and other well-known Rabbis #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Group,

Whether or not you're Lubavitcher, or Chasidic, or religious, those of
you with (or have relatives with) Hebrew names that are same as well-known
Rabbis should try to determine if your name ultimately comes >from outside
your family. Obviously, most of us already have already tried to
determine who we're named after, and also tried to determine who that
person got their name >from in the family.

But if you have the same name as a famous Rabbi, you should also check
their death year to see if it was shortly before the birth of that
great-great grandparent/uncle/aunt who also had their name. Although
short of talking to people who are probably no longer around, there's no
way to prove a name connection, the closer the two events were, the more
likely that the ancestor was named after that Rabbi, and if your family
was >from the same area in Europe as the Rabbi, then it's even more likely.

Remember, our families in Europe were more likely to be much larger
than now, and with 8 or 10 or more kids in multiple, it was easy to run
out of dead relatives who needed somebody named after them. To give a
baby the long, wise, and great life they deserved, the name of a
long-lived, wise, and great (but unrelated) Rabbi was sometimes used.

This is problematic with some common names. For example, most Menachem
Mendels in Europe were probably not named after the Lubavitcher Rabbi of
that name (the last Lubavitcher Rabbi was named after his great-great
grandfather, who had the same name), but for most names, this could open
up new things for the one or two of you out there running out of leads to
pursue. And for most of us seeking connections to great Rabbis, if you're
like me, the name is the only connection we'll ever have.

Thanks for reading.

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.

seeking LEWITAN (Goworow, Myszyniec); SAPIRA (Gac, Pol.); NIEDOBITEK,
MIRELMAM (Rypin, Pol.); BLANK, GOLD, KORN, REBHUN/RAPHAN, STRICK (Debica,
Rzemien, Mala, Niedwiazda, Gorlice, Ropczyce, and Rzeszow area, Pol.);
ATLAS (Frankfort, Ger. and Vienna/Wien, Austria); HERZOG (Vienna/Wien,
Austria); MARGOLIS (Odessa, Ukr.); LEIMAN/LYMAN (Krakow, Pol.)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Identical First Names #general

daphna brafman <daphnabrafman@...>
 

This subject has already discussed here but I don't remember the conclusion;
that is why I am bringing it up again. My grandfather Avraham had a brother
Eliezer. Their father ,Leibish, also had a brother, Eliezer. The father of
Leibish and Eliezer is called Lajzor Jankiel. In other words- a father and
son with the same first name. A poor mathematician like me doesn't know what
to make out of it.
By the way- Until not long ago the information I had was that Lejzor Jankiel
was just Yankel.
I know that jews in Poland did not name children after their parents. Could
Lejzor be something else than Eliezer?
Daphna Brafman