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Re: Witz -- a town in the old Russian Empire #general

Werner Cohn <wernerco@...>
 

genealice@josephsonline.net wrote on 3/12/04
2:59 PM:

Subject: Witz -- a town in the old Russian Empire

Does anybody know what the present day name is of a place called
Witz, a place of birth noted in British naturalization papers of a
former citizen of the Russian Empire? I've had a go with the Daitch
Mokotoff search on the Shtetlseeker but obviously there are quite a
few contenders. I was wondering if anyone knew this as an anglicized > or old
name of a town. I do realize it is also the ending of many
surnames but this is definitely a place.

I would appreciate the answer sent to me privately as well as to the
list as I receive the digest version.
Witz is the German word for joke. Somebody has been pulling your leg.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Witz -- a town in the old Russian Empire #general

Werner Cohn <wernerco@...>
 

genealice@josephsonline.net wrote on 3/12/04
2:59 PM:

Subject: Witz -- a town in the old Russian Empire

Does anybody know what the present day name is of a place called
Witz, a place of birth noted in British naturalization papers of a
former citizen of the Russian Empire? I've had a go with the Daitch
Mokotoff search on the Shtetlseeker but obviously there are quite a
few contenders. I was wondering if anyone knew this as an anglicized > or old
name of a town. I do realize it is also the ending of many
surnames but this is definitely a place.

I would appreciate the answer sent to me privately as well as to the
list as I receive the digest version.
Witz is the German word for joke. Somebody has been pulling your leg.


United Hebrew Cemetery- Staten Island #general

Jeffrey J. Barnett <JBarnett@...>
 

I need someone who is in Staten Island to
visit a grave at United Hebrew Cemetery and
either take a picture or tell me the full
Hebrew name on a possible relative's headstone
including his fathers name and if a Levi or Cohan.
Can anyone get there for me?

Please respond privately.

Jef Barnett
Bensalem, PA

BANDRYMER (Bandrimer or Bandremer) -Serock, Pultusk, Rozan Poland
KRASHA - Serock, Krasnosielc Poland
NOWAK (Novak, Nowack) -Serock, Krasnosielc Poland
BULMAN- Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen United Hebrew Cemetery- Staten Island #general

Jeffrey J. Barnett <JBarnett@...>
 

I need someone who is in Staten Island to
visit a grave at United Hebrew Cemetery and
either take a picture or tell me the full
Hebrew name on a possible relative's headstone
including his fathers name and if a Levi or Cohan.
Can anyone get there for me?

Please respond privately.

Jef Barnett
Bensalem, PA

BANDRYMER (Bandrimer or Bandremer) -Serock, Pultusk, Rozan Poland
KRASHA - Serock, Krasnosielc Poland
NOWAK (Novak, Nowack) -Serock, Krasnosielc Poland
BULMAN- Poland


Re: Identical First Names #general

Mary D. Taffet <mdtaffet@...>
 

Daphna,

My husband's great-grandfather was Joseph Jacob Taffet, so I was quite
surprised to hear that one of the children was also called Joseph Taffet.

What I later realized is that the son who called himself Joseph Taffet was
in fact Nathan Taffet, and Leppo Taffet at birth (in NYC). It appears
that Nathan Taffet took on his father's name after his father died.
Joseph Jacob Taffet the father died in 1926/27 (don't have the dates with
me right now), and by the 1930 census, son Nathan Taffet is listed as
Joseph Taffet (head of his own household by that time).

So, could it be the case that one of these two gentlemen you refer to had
a different name, and then took on the father's name upon death of the
father?

-- Mary Taffet

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, daphna brafman wrote:

This subject has already discussed here but I don't remember the conclusion;
that is why I am bringing it up again. My grandfather Avraham had a brother
Eliezer. Their father ,Leibish, also had a brother, Eliezer. The father of
Leibish and Eliezer is called Lajzor Jankiel. In other words- a father and
son with the same first name. A poor mathematician like me doesn't know what
to make out of it.
By the way- Until not long ago the information I had was that Lejzor Jankiel
was just Yankel.
I know that jews in Poland did not name children after their parents. Could
Lejzor be something else than Eliezer?
Daphna Brafman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Identical First Names #general

Mary D. Taffet <mdtaffet@...>
 

Daphna,

My husband's great-grandfather was Joseph Jacob Taffet, so I was quite
surprised to hear that one of the children was also called Joseph Taffet.

What I later realized is that the son who called himself Joseph Taffet was
in fact Nathan Taffet, and Leppo Taffet at birth (in NYC). It appears
that Nathan Taffet took on his father's name after his father died.
Joseph Jacob Taffet the father died in 1926/27 (don't have the dates with
me right now), and by the 1930 census, son Nathan Taffet is listed as
Joseph Taffet (head of his own household by that time).

So, could it be the case that one of these two gentlemen you refer to had
a different name, and then took on the father's name upon death of the
father?

-- Mary Taffet

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, daphna brafman wrote:

This subject has already discussed here but I don't remember the conclusion;
that is why I am bringing it up again. My grandfather Avraham had a brother
Eliezer. Their father ,Leibish, also had a brother, Eliezer. The father of
Leibish and Eliezer is called Lajzor Jankiel. In other words- a father and
son with the same first name. A poor mathematician like me doesn't know what
to make out of it.
By the way- Until not long ago the information I had was that Lejzor Jankiel
was just Yankel.
I know that jews in Poland did not name children after their parents. Could
Lejzor be something else than Eliezer?
Daphna Brafman


Re: Identical First Names #general

chaikin <chaikin@...>
 

Daphna Brafman daphnabrafman@hotmail.com asked:

This subject has already discussed here but I don't remember the
conclusion; that is why I am bringing it up again. My grandfather Avraham
had a brother
Eliezer. Their father ,Leibish, also had a brother, Eliezer. The father of
Leibish and Eliezer is called Lajzor Jankiel. In other words- a father and
son with the same first name. A poor mathematician like me doesn't know what
to make out of it. By the way- Until not long ago the information I had was
that Lejzor Jankiel was just Yankel.
I know that jews in Poland did not name children after their parents. Could
Lejzor be something else than Eliezer?

= There is no absolute conclusion to that question, here are few possible
explanations:
Your ancestor was called Jankiel Lajzor, rather than Lajzor Jankiel, and
the meaning is that he was Jankiel, son of Lajzor.
If not, than it could have been a case of father's death, prior to the birth
of his last son, and the son get his name.
I'm sure that other members will send more suggestions:-))

Best regards,
Udi Cain, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Identical First Names #general

chaikin <chaikin@...>
 

Daphna Brafman daphnabrafman@hotmail.com asked:

This subject has already discussed here but I don't remember the
conclusion; that is why I am bringing it up again. My grandfather Avraham
had a brother
Eliezer. Their father ,Leibish, also had a brother, Eliezer. The father of
Leibish and Eliezer is called Lajzor Jankiel. In other words- a father and
son with the same first name. A poor mathematician like me doesn't know what
to make out of it. By the way- Until not long ago the information I had was
that Lejzor Jankiel was just Yankel.
I know that jews in Poland did not name children after their parents. Could
Lejzor be something else than Eliezer?

= There is no absolute conclusion to that question, here are few possible
explanations:
Your ancestor was called Jankiel Lajzor, rather than Lajzor Jankiel, and
the meaning is that he was Jankiel, son of Lajzor.
If not, than it could have been a case of father's death, prior to the birth
of his last son, and the son get his name.
I'm sure that other members will send more suggestions:-))

Best regards,
Udi Cain, Israel


confiscations in Bessarabia #romania

Joyce Field
 

My husband's grandparents' home and land were confiscated in
Teleneshty, Bessarabia, now Moldova. The family fled to the east
during the war but my husband's grandfather died in Odessa on the
"journey."

Joyce Field
W. Lafayette, IN


Romania SIG #Romania confiscations in Bessarabia #romania

Joyce Field
 

My husband's grandparents' home and land were confiscated in
Teleneshty, Bessarabia, now Moldova. The family fled to the east
during the war but my husband's grandfather died in Odessa on the
"journey."

Joyce Field
W. Lafayette, IN


Re: Teitelbaum & Beitchman in Kansas City #general

Steve Orlen
 

Mark,

Have you tried the archives of the Kansas City Star for mention of these
families? Or have you found out whether there was a Jewish newspaper there
at the time?

Best, Steve Orlen
Tucson, AZ


Grove St Cemetery NJ headstone photo #general

BOBBY FURST <bobby1st@...>
 

I would greatly appreciate it if someone would take a headstone photo
for me in the Grove Street, Newark NJ, cemetery.

I have exact location and will reimburse all expenses or trade the favor
in Los Angeles, CA.

Bobby Furst
Redondo Beach, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Teitelbaum & Beitchman in Kansas City #general

Steve Orlen
 

Mark,

Have you tried the archives of the Kansas City Star for mention of these
families? Or have you found out whether there was a Jewish newspaper there
at the time?

Best, Steve Orlen
Tucson, AZ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Grove St Cemetery NJ headstone photo #general

BOBBY FURST <bobby1st@...>
 

I would greatly appreciate it if someone would take a headstone photo
for me in the Grove Street, Newark NJ, cemetery.

I have exact location and will reimburse all expenses or trade the favor
in Los Angeles, CA.

Bobby Furst
Redondo Beach, CA


Yeshivat Chachme Savlin #rabbinic

Avigdor&Laia <lbendov@...>
 

Can someone help me identify the town where this Yeshiva was in
Eastern Europe? Chachme Savlin is not found in Poland searches
on Google. Perhaps there is another spelling?

Avigdor Ben-Dov
Director of Special Projects
Yad LeZehava Holocaust Research Institute
Kedumim Israel


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Yeshivat Chachme Savlin #rabbinic

Avigdor&Laia <lbendov@...>
 

Can someone help me identify the town where this Yeshiva was in
Eastern Europe? Chachme Savlin is not found in Poland searches
on Google. Perhaps there is another spelling?

Avigdor Ben-Dov
Director of Special Projects
Yad LeZehava Holocaust Research Institute
Kedumim Israel


Steinberg, Berz(s)on or Berenz(s)on Families #ukraine

Michael Berson <berson1138@...>
 

Seeking information regarding the Steinberg, Berz(s)on or Berenz(s)on
families in Zinkov, Proskurov or Proskurivka

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please sign all posts with your name, E-mail address, and
location. Check the JGFF for these families, as well.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Steinberg, Berz(s)on or Berenz(s)on Families #ukraine

Michael Berson <berson1138@...>
 

Seeking information regarding the Steinberg, Berz(s)on or Berenz(s)on
families in Zinkov, Proskurov or Proskurivka

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please sign all posts with your name, E-mail address, and
location. Check the JGFF for these families, as well.


Holocaust Lists: Polish Jews after World War II #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

This week, I visited the American Jewish Archives in Cincinnati, Ohio USA
(http://huc.edu/aja/) in search of Holocaust lists of Jews born in Poland.
I discovered that they have a huge collection of lists, including many that
I believe are held nowhere else. Here are just a few of the lists in their
collection:

Very detailed lists of Polish survivors in Sweden, with indication of
relatives overseas (document D56n5):

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0311.AJA/SurvSwe.jpg

Polish survivors (especially children) who were in Iran after the war
(document D56n9):

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0311.AJA/Iran.jpg

Telegrams sent to Jews in Poland during World War II (including "my" towns
of Radomsko and Czestochowa; documents H277n2):

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0311.AJA/TelegCzesto.jpg
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0311.AJA/Cables.jpg

Survivors at many different camps (document D56n1):

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0311.AJA/SurvList.jpg

Witnesses contacted by the World Jewish Archives for potential testimony for
war crimes (document C203n6):

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0311.AJA/Witness.jpg

Survivor lists for many cities in Poland, including Czestochowa (document
D55n5):

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0311.AJA/SurvCzesto.jpg

Radio broadcasts within Poland, showing survivors trying to communicate with
family (document H277n2):

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0311.AJA/Radio.jpg

Polish survivors in the USSR after the war (document H277n7):

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0311.AJA/PolUSSR.jpg

Perhaps some of these document will be of interest to readers.

Dan
........................................................
Daniel Kazez <dkazez@wittenberg.edu>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
surnames: TELMAN, ENGLENDER, KIFER, JURKIEWICZ
towns: Plawno, Czestochowa, Przyrow, Mstow, Janow, Radomsko, Przedborz
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0311.AJA/
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/talman/


JRI Poland #Poland Holocaust Lists: Polish Jews after World War II #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

This week, I visited the American Jewish Archives in Cincinnati, Ohio USA
(http://huc.edu/aja/) in search of Holocaust lists of Jews born in Poland.
I discovered that they have a huge collection of lists, including many that
I believe are held nowhere else. Here are just a few of the lists in their
collection:

Very detailed lists of Polish survivors in Sweden, with indication of
relatives overseas (document D56n5):

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0311.AJA/SurvSwe.jpg

Polish survivors (especially children) who were in Iran after the war
(document D56n9):

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0311.AJA/Iran.jpg

Telegrams sent to Jews in Poland during World War II (including "my" towns
of Radomsko and Czestochowa; documents H277n2):

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0311.AJA/TelegCzesto.jpg
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0311.AJA/Cables.jpg

Survivors at many different camps (document D56n1):

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0311.AJA/SurvList.jpg

Witnesses contacted by the World Jewish Archives for potential testimony for
war crimes (document C203n6):

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0311.AJA/Witness.jpg

Survivor lists for many cities in Poland, including Czestochowa (document
D55n5):

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0311.AJA/SurvCzesto.jpg

Radio broadcasts within Poland, showing survivors trying to communicate with
family (document H277n2):

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0311.AJA/Radio.jpg

Polish survivors in the USSR after the war (document H277n7):

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0311.AJA/PolUSSR.jpg

Perhaps some of these document will be of interest to readers.

Dan
........................................................
Daniel Kazez <dkazez@wittenberg.edu>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
surnames: TELMAN, ENGLENDER, KIFER, JURKIEWICZ
towns: Plawno, Czestochowa, Przyrow, Mstow, Janow, Radomsko, Przedborz
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0311.AJA/
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/talman/