Hi Bill
This is PRZYROW, which is located about 20 miles >from Czestochowa.
My family came >from there, and I got about 30 civil records >from LDS films
for this town.
Przyrow is part of a project at JRI-POLAND
Friendly

Pierre GONZVA
18 AVENUE ROBERT
94170 LE PERREUX
FRANCE
E.mail : pierregonzva@hotmail.com / pierregonzva@yahoo.fr

From: "Bill Celmaster" <bill.celmaster@verizon.net>
Reply-To: "Warszawa Research Group" <warszawa@lyris.jewishgen.org>
To: "Warszawa Research Group" <warszawa@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Subject: [warszawa] Identifying Przyrowice
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 20:27:25 -0500

I encountered the name of the town "Przyrowice" during my research in LDS
records >from Czestochowa. Does anyone know which town that name is likely
to refer to (current name and 19th century name)? It might turn out that I
have a couple of letters wrong.

- Thanks
- Bill

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Hi Bill
This is PRZYROW, which is located about 20 miles >from Czestochowa.
My family came >from there, and I got about 30 civil records >from LDS films
for this town.
Przyrow is part of a project at JRI-POLAND
Friendly

Pierre GONZVA
18 AVENUE ROBERT
94170 LE PERREUX
FRANCE
E.mail : pierregonzva@hotmail.com / pierregonzva@yahoo.fr

From: "Bill Celmaster" <bill.celmaster@verizon.net>
Reply-To: "Warszawa Research Group" <warszawa@lyris.jewishgen.org>
To: "Warszawa Research Group" <warszawa@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Subject: [warszawa] Identifying Przyrowice
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 20:27:25 -0500

I encountered the name of the town "Przyrowice" during my research in LDS
records >from Czestochowa. Does anyone know which town that name is likely
to refer to (current name and 19th century name)? It might turn out that I
have a couple of letters wrong.

- Thanks
- Bill

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Messenger http://g.msn.fr/FR1001/866 : un logiciel gratuit pour
dialoguer avec vos amis !

I don't know anything about my father or his family.
His name is Leo PERKINS,born in Russell County, Kentucky on April 5,1933 and
thats all. Could anybody help as I have very strong loving almost a longing
feeling for Israel especially after I went there in Nov 02.
I know my mother's family are English {Callahan} but Nobody knows my father's
and both my parents passed away in early 80's. I've been told that my last name
could be of Russian descent. Am and only child of an only child. Any help would
be greatly appreciated.

Claude. rescueu@earthlink.net

I don't know anything about my father or his family.
His name is Leo PERKINS,born in Russell County, Kentucky on April 5,1933 and
thats all. Could anybody help as I have very strong loving almost a longing
feeling for Israel especially after I went there in Nov 02.
I know my mother's family are English {Callahan} but Nobody knows my father's
and both my parents passed away in early 80's. I've been told that my last name
could be of Russian descent. Am and only child of an only child. Any help would
be greatly appreciated.

Claude. rescueu@earthlink.net

Has anyone traveled in East Prussia in recent years? What
experience did you have? Any hotels, guides, etc. that can
be recommended? What were the experiences with archives?

The base for my trip will be Allenstein (Olsztyn),
with trips to Osterode and Wormditt.

I could not find any reports in the Gersig archives. Any help
or report of experiences/adventures would be appreciated.

Daphne Sage, Boston, Massachusetts, USA

Has anyone traveled in East Prussia in recent years? What
experience did you have? Any hotels, guides, etc. that can
be recommended? What were the experiences with archives?

The base for my trip will be Allenstein (Olsztyn),
with trips to Osterode and Wormditt.

I could not find any reports in the Gersig archives. Any help
or report of experiences/adventures would be appreciated.

Daphne Sage, Boston, Massachusetts, USA

Sholom Chaverim,
We are trying to arrange a Posen, Prussia BOF (Birds of a Feather) meeting
during the Jerusalem2004 Conference week. If you are planning to attend the
2004 Conference, and have any research interests in Posen, Prussia, this is
something you might want to attend. This Posen, Prussia BOF group will NOT
be limited to any regional Posen section, but will include all of Posen,
Prussia.

The Conference registration information is now on-line at:
www.jewishgen.org/jerusalem2004
They are requesting a minimum of 10 participants to arrange
for a BOF group meeting.

So, if this is of interest to you, please check off "BOF Posen, Prussia
Meeting" under the heading "SIG GATHERINGS".

Any questions, please get back to me. I would also appreciate knowing how
much interest there is in attending such a BOF.

Barbara Siegel Jerusalem Searching: HERTZBERG: Posen, Prussia; Tukums, Latvia

MODERATOR NOTE: BOF = birds of a feather - an English idiom meaning (here)
a group of people with the same interest.

Sholom Chaverim,
We are trying to arrange a Posen, Prussia BOF (Birds of a Feather) meeting
during the Jerusalem2004 Conference week. If you are planning to attend the
2004 Conference, and have any research interests in Posen, Prussia, this is
something you might want to attend. This Posen, Prussia BOF group will NOT
be limited to any regional Posen section, but will include all of Posen,
Prussia.

The Conference registration information is now on-line at:
www.jewishgen.org/jerusalem2004
They are requesting a minimum of 10 participants to arrange
for a BOF group meeting.

So, if this is of interest to you, please check off "BOF Posen, Prussia
Meeting" under the heading "SIG GATHERINGS".

Any questions, please get back to me. I would also appreciate knowing how
much interest there is in attending such a BOF.

Barbara Siegel Jerusalem Searching: HERTZBERG: Posen, Prussia; Tukums, Latvia

MODERATOR NOTE: BOF = birds of a feather - an English idiom meaning (here)
a group of people with the same interest.

A company specializing in auctions of Judaica, is having an auction
on March 30, 2004, at 3:00pm in New York City. Looking through the
catalog, I spotted three lots that are of interest to those researching
their German Jewish roots. By far the most interesting of these items is
lot 209, but alas, the catalog price estimate is $15,000-$20,000. I have
included the catalog descriptions below.

[MODERATOR NOTE: Please contact Mr. Starr for the name and contact information
of the auction company. We do not promote businesses here.]

I have no affiliation with the auction company. I hope the information
below is of interest to others here.

Ethan Starr Washington, DC edstarr@earthlink.net

100. (GERMANY). Dietz, Alexander Dr. Stammbuch de Frankfurter
Juden 85Frankfurter Juedischen Familien von 1359-1849, nebst einem Plane der
Judengasse [=93Book of Genealogy of Frankfurt Jewry=85 Frankfurt Jewish
Families >from 1349-1849, includes map of Jews=92 Street.=94]. Number 1 of 50
numbered copies. Foldout map in red and green. Contains chapters on
Frankfurt=92s rabbis and physicians. pp. (12), 481. Occasional staining.
Later boards. 4to.

Frankfurt a/ Main, J. St. Goar: 1907. $300-400

Mine of information concerning Frankfurt=92s old Jewish families. *****

101. (GERMANY). HUELSEN, Julius. Der Alte Judenfriedhof in Frankfurt a.M.
[=93The Old Jewish Cemetery in Frankfurt=94]. With 13 plates of individual
tombstones including those of R. Meir SCHIFF (MaHaRa=94M SCHIFF), R. Jacob
Joshua FALK (=93Pnei Yehoshua=94), R. Nathan ADLER and R. Pinchas HOROVITZ
(=93Hafla=92ah=94). pp. 16, (10). Frankfurt a/Main, Israelitische Gemeinde=
,
1931. * Schicksale der Israeliten zu Frankfurt am Main Seit Gruendung der
Stadt [=93The Fate of the Jews in Frankfurt a/Main since the Founding of the
City.=94] pp. 38. New York, Schoen & Kellerman, 1903. * Plus 15 other
monographs pertaining to the Jewish community of Frankfurt. Most in
original printed wrappers. 4to and smaller. v.p., v.d. Estimate: $500-700

*****

209. (FRANKFURT). Journale ueber Einnahmen und Ausgaben an Geld bey der
Steuersektion des Juedischen Gemeinde-Vorstands im Jahre 1810, gefuehrt von
A. Reinganum [Journal of Income and Expenditures of the Jewish Community of
Frankfurt, commencing in the year 1810]. Manuscript on paper. Both the
text and the numerical entries written in a neat hand by Aaron Herz
Reinganum, book-keeper of the Frankfurt Kehillah >from 1810-1814 and his
anonymous successor 1815-1831. Approximately pp. 400. Original boards,
rebacked, within modern folding box. Thick folio.

Frankfurt a/Main, 1810-1831. Estimate: $15,000-20,000

The thousands of entries for both income and expenditures contain a wealth
of information of historical interest relating to the prestigious community
of Frankfurt. Among the personalities whose names appear in this mammoth
ledger are Rabbis Zvi Hirsch Halevi HOROVITZ and Salomon Abraham TRIER,
chief rabbi; and members of celebrated German-Jewish families such as
ROTHSCHILD, ELLISEN, SCHWARZSCHILD, KANN, KULP, WORMS, BING, FLOERSHEIM,
GEIGER, POSEN, MAINZ, RAPP, GOLDSCHMIDT, SPEYER, OPPENHEIMER, RINDSKOPF,
FALK, KIRCHHEIM, GUMPERZ, FRAENKEL, REISS, SCHLOSS, BACHARACH, ZUNZ, et al.
This in addition to scores of dayanim, cantors, choirmasters, beadles, and
other synagogue officials. On the salary of the kehillah were ritual-bath
personnel, ritual slaughterers, midwives, hospital (=93hekdesh=94) staff,
communal-oven bakers, =93schulklopers,=94 and gravediggers. One learns that
expenditures were made as well to gentile policemen, to chimney-cleaners,
sewage cleaners, and an assortment of other paid professionals.

The consignor relates the ledger formerly belonged to the late Mrs. Thea
POSEN, nee EISEMANN, formerly of Frankfurt, daughter of Mr. Heinrich EISEMANN,
renowned antiquarian of Frankfurt and London.

See Paul ARNSBERG, Geschichte der Frankfurter Juden, pp. 171-2, 271, 274;
N. Bar-Giora Bamberger, the POSEN
Family, pp. 48, 133; Josef WALK, Kurzbiographien, pp. 76-7; Marcus
HOROVITZ, Frankfurter Rabbiner; Alexander DIETZ, Stammbuch der Frankfurter Juden.

A company specializing in auctions of Judaica, is having an auction
on March 30, 2004, at 3:00pm in New York City. Looking through the
catalog, I spotted three lots that are of interest to those researching
their German Jewish roots. By far the most interesting of these items is
lot 209, but alas, the catalog price estimate is $15,000-$20,000. I have
included the catalog descriptions below.

[MODERATOR NOTE: Please contact Mr. Starr for the name and contact information
of the auction company. We do not promote businesses here.]

I have no affiliation with the auction company. I hope the information
below is of interest to others here.

Ethan Starr Washington, DC edstarr@earthlink.net

100. (GERMANY). Dietz, Alexander Dr. Stammbuch de Frankfurter
Juden 85Frankfurter Juedischen Familien von 1359-1849, nebst einem Plane der
Judengasse [=93Book of Genealogy of Frankfurt Jewry=85 Frankfurt Jewish
Families >from 1349-1849, includes map of Jews=92 Street.=94]. Number 1 of 50
numbered copies. Foldout map in red and green. Contains chapters on
Frankfurt=92s rabbis and physicians. pp. (12), 481. Occasional staining.
Later boards. 4to.

Frankfurt a/ Main, J. St. Goar: 1907. $300-400

Mine of information concerning Frankfurt=92s old Jewish families. *****

101. (GERMANY). HUELSEN, Julius. Der Alte Judenfriedhof in Frankfurt a.M.
[=93The Old Jewish Cemetery in Frankfurt=94]. With 13 plates of individual
tombstones including those of R. Meir SCHIFF (MaHaRa=94M SCHIFF), R. Jacob
Joshua FALK (=93Pnei Yehoshua=94), R. Nathan ADLER and R. Pinchas HOROVITZ
(=93Hafla=92ah=94). pp. 16, (10). Frankfurt a/Main, Israelitische Gemeinde=
,
1931. * Schicksale der Israeliten zu Frankfurt am Main Seit Gruendung der
Stadt [=93The Fate of the Jews in Frankfurt a/Main since the Founding of the
City.=94] pp. 38. New York, Schoen & Kellerman, 1903. * Plus 15 other
monographs pertaining to the Jewish community of Frankfurt. Most in
original printed wrappers. 4to and smaller. v.p., v.d. Estimate: $500-700

*****

209. (FRANKFURT). Journale ueber Einnahmen und Ausgaben an Geld bey der
Steuersektion des Juedischen Gemeinde-Vorstands im Jahre 1810, gefuehrt von
A. Reinganum [Journal of Income and Expenditures of the Jewish Community of
Frankfurt, commencing in the year 1810]. Manuscript on paper. Both the
text and the numerical entries written in a neat hand by Aaron Herz
Reinganum, book-keeper of the Frankfurt Kehillah >from 1810-1814 and his
anonymous successor 1815-1831. Approximately pp. 400. Original boards,
rebacked, within modern folding box. Thick folio.

Frankfurt a/Main, 1810-1831. Estimate: $15,000-20,000

The thousands of entries for both income and expenditures contain a wealth
of information of historical interest relating to the prestigious community
of Frankfurt. Among the personalities whose names appear in this mammoth
ledger are Rabbis Zvi Hirsch Halevi HOROVITZ and Salomon Abraham TRIER,
chief rabbi; and members of celebrated German-Jewish families such as
ROTHSCHILD, ELLISEN, SCHWARZSCHILD, KANN, KULP, WORMS, BING, FLOERSHEIM,
GEIGER, POSEN, MAINZ, RAPP, GOLDSCHMIDT, SPEYER, OPPENHEIMER, RINDSKOPF,
FALK, KIRCHHEIM, GUMPERZ, FRAENKEL, REISS, SCHLOSS, BACHARACH, ZUNZ, et al.
This in addition to scores of dayanim, cantors, choirmasters, beadles, and
other synagogue officials. On the salary of the kehillah were ritual-bath
personnel, ritual slaughterers, midwives, hospital (=93hekdesh=94) staff,
communal-oven bakers, =93schulklopers,=94 and gravediggers. One learns that
expenditures were made as well to gentile policemen, to chimney-cleaners,
sewage cleaners, and an assortment of other paid professionals.

The consignor relates the ledger formerly belonged to the late Mrs. Thea
POSEN, nee EISEMANN, formerly of Frankfurt, daughter of Mr. Heinrich EISEMANN,
renowned antiquarian of Frankfurt and London.

See Paul ARNSBERG, Geschichte der Frankfurter Juden, pp. 171-2, 271, 274;
N. Bar-Giora Bamberger, the POSEN
Family, pp. 48, 133; Josef WALK, Kurzbiographien, pp. 76-7; Marcus
HOROVITZ, Frankfurter Rabbiner; Alexander DIETZ, Stammbuch der Frankfurter Juden.

Dear Genners,

I have posted an image of the tombstones of Jacob and
Mollie Schecter.Can someone translate the inscriptions for me?
I realize that the lower part is obscured.

The image can be found at
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3859

Please respond directly to me, not to the group.

Thanks for your help.

Anita Frankel frankel2@mindspring.com
Storrs, CT USA

Dear Genners,

I have posted an image of the tombstones of Jacob and
Mollie Schecter.Can someone translate the inscriptions for me?
I realize that the lower part is obscured.

The image can be found at
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3859

Please respond directly to me, not to the group.

Thanks for your help.

Anita Frankel frankel2@mindspring.com
Storrs, CT USA

Dear Genners,

I have posted the reverse of a photograph of an unknown woman.
The date,judging by her dress, might be the second half of the
19th century. If the printing includes the location of the
photographer,it might help to identify her. It is probably in
the Ukraine (Russia). There are apparently two words
in Yiddish in the upper left corner that might include her name.

The image can be found at
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3858

Please respond to me directly, not to the list.

Thank you for your help.

Anita Frankel frankel2@mindspring.com

Dear Genners,

I have posted the reverse of a photograph of an unknown woman.
The date,judging by her dress, might be the second half of the
19th century. If the printing includes the location of the
photographer,it might help to identify her. It is probably in
the Ukraine (Russia). There are apparently two words
in Yiddish in the upper left corner that might include her name.

The image can be found at
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3858

Please respond to me directly, not to the list.

Thank you for your help.

Anita Frankel frankel2@mindspring.com

Hi Genners,

Does anyone have the current email address for Harold Lewin,
who posted message #13 on February 6, 2004 to the jewishgen
discussion group, regarding London marriage records for
members of the GOMPERTS family. The email address
"harmir@bezeqint.net" is either incorrect or no longer
current. Thank you.

Eloise Hintersteiner
White Plains, NY
eloiseh@optonline.net

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately

Hi Genners,

Does anyone have the current email address for Harold Lewin,
who posted message #13 on February 6, 2004 to the jewishgen
discussion group, regarding London marriage records for
members of the GOMPERTS family. The email address
"harmir@bezeqint.net" is either incorrect or no longer
current. Thank you.

Eloise Hintersteiner
White Plains, NY
eloiseh@optonline.net

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately

I am hoping someone can help with the translation of one page of Yiddish
that was written by my GGF, a scribe in St. Louis >from 1915 or
so to 1950s. He was originally >from Zaslov,Ukraine.
It was upside down and has been corrected.

Thank you,
Louise Hajdenberg

YOUNG/JUNG/YUNG ZaslovUkraine,Lyakhovichi(Lachowitz) Belarus,St. Louis;
HAMMERMAN Ukraine;BERLAND Shepetovka Ukraine;NOTENBERG/NOTTENBERG/
NATHANBERG/NATHAN,TOBIAS Talsi Latvia;ROSENBLATT,BilaTserkva,Tetiev
Ukraine,Sadagora,Czernowitz Poland;FRIEDMAN, Rzeszow Poland;
FEIGENBAUM,Debica,Ropczyce,Rzeszow,Swoszowa(Svasov) bez.Yaslo,
Riglitz, Tarnow Poland;NiznyKomarnik,VyznyKomarnik Slovakia;Berlin,

MODERATOR NOTE: Search list truncated to six lines
Direct url: http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3826

I am hoping someone can help with the translation of one page of Yiddish
that was written by my GGF, a scribe in St. Louis >from 1915 or
so to 1950s. He was originally >from Zaslov,Ukraine.
It was upside down and has been corrected.

Thank you,
Louise Hajdenberg

YOUNG/JUNG/YUNG ZaslovUkraine,Lyakhovichi(Lachowitz) Belarus,St. Louis;
HAMMERMAN Ukraine;BERLAND Shepetovka Ukraine;NOTENBERG/NOTTENBERG/
NATHANBERG/NATHAN,TOBIAS Talsi Latvia;ROSENBLATT,BilaTserkva,Tetiev
Ukraine,Sadagora,Czernowitz Poland;FRIEDMAN, Rzeszow Poland;
FEIGENBAUM,Debica,Ropczyce,Rzeszow,Swoszowa(Svasov) bez.Yaslo,
Riglitz, Tarnow Poland;NiznyKomarnik,VyznyKomarnik Slovakia;Berlin,

MODERATOR NOTE: Search list truncated to six lines
Direct url: http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3826

Dear Fellow Jewishgenners,

I have two fellow genealogy friends who live in Canada who have been
outstanding in helping me with Canadian research who have
kept me posted with the problems with cutbacks in staff
in the Registrar General' s Office.
Back in September I requested two (2) death certificates

from Ontario,Canada. I sent in the appropriate fees. I have

made many calls to the Registrar General in Thunder Bay, Ontario.
In one of my calls I asked if they could at least tell me
if they received my request. The representative I spoke to
said they had no way of checking the status of my request. If it
was not in their computer it didn't get past their mail
room or wasn't opened yet. I hope I remember that
part accurately.

I have the receipts for the purchase of the money orders
(they were US International Money Orders as the death
certificate application said the funds could be send in
US Funds, which was the convenient way for me to do
it at the time. Going to the Post Office to have a trace
put on the checks costs more time and money.

If anyone reading this is a Canadian Government member,
especially working for the Registrar General, please tell me
officially if almost 7 months is normal to wait for documents???
What is happening???

Thank you.

Sincerely,

David Priever
brooklyn1960@hotmail.com

Spelling is variable in the US records, and moreso in an area like
Russia/Poland/Lithuania/Belarus where your ancestors are from. There were
multiple languages spoken and written by the clerks, and in all the civil
records the clerks would have been transliterating names which were spoken
by our ancestors who would have spelled them in Hebrew if asked.

So, Boim and Bojm are just the most common of the spellings you might
find-as the i and j are often interchangeable in that area. Baum is an
Einglish/German spelling and I would not expect it to be common in that
area. The word would not have been pronounced like the German spelling, but
more like Boim most likely.

Like the rest of us, you need to look for every reasonable spelling for the
sound of the name-and some not so reasonable as well.

Sally Bruckheimer
Harrison, NY