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Noordam ---Sailing 1916 from Rotterdam #general

RoniKrinsky <ronikrinsky@...>
 

I recently found out my grandmother and my father sailed on
Ocober 16th,1916,>from Rotterdam on the Noordam. Does anyone
know what the conditions were like on the ship or
have any pictures?

Does anyone have relatives that might have been
on that ship?

Roni Krinsky
Queens,NY
Email: RoniKrinsky@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Noordam ---Sailing 1916 from Rotterdam #general

RoniKrinsky <ronikrinsky@...>
 

I recently found out my grandmother and my father sailed on
Ocober 16th,1916,>from Rotterdam on the Noordam. Does anyone
know what the conditions were like on the ship or
have any pictures?

Does anyone have relatives that might have been
on that ship?

Roni Krinsky
Queens,NY
Email: RoniKrinsky@...


Re: NYC Barge Office records #belarus

Michael Herzlich
 

My grandfather immigrated to NYC in 1891, the image
was online at Ancestry.com (an additional paid
subscription). It was also recorded at the point of
departure (Hamburg web site).

Michael Herzlich
Boca Raton, FL

HERZLICH, POLLACK, TREIBER, HELFAND, WACHTELBERG
Przemysl, Sambor, Slutsk


Barge Office Records #belarus

Ilene Murray <ilenemurray@...>
 

Laura Katz asked about Barge Office Records >from 1890-92.

Laura, the records >from the Barge Office were U. S. Customs Lists and
then Immigration Passenger Lists. The "new" Immigration forms really
were not in widespread use till 1893, although the precursor to the INS,
the Dept. of Immigration, began in 1891. These forms were turned over to
the federal government and microfilmed, just as the later Immigration
Passenger Lists were, and copies are widely available.

As you know, 1890 and 1891 are part of the port of New York's unindexed
years. You might check periodically at Ancestry.com, since they are in
the process of indexing those years online. If you don't have a
subscription, check with your local library.

As for the "Russians to America" series, they, too, are widely available
at libraries with genealogical departments. The first few volumes in the
series were in book form. They are a useful tool, but you must remember
that you are looking at names that were indexed by people who were not
familiar with YOUR family and YOUR spelling.

I did find my great-grandfather in one volume and it DID save me a lot
of searching, BUT I only found him in the book after I had located him
on a ship out of Hamburg. That gave me an approximate date of arrival in
New York and a boat. When I found him in the book, his name was spelled
so strangely that I knew I never would have recognized it. To complicate
things, he must have parroted the response of whoever was in front of
him because he gave his city of origin as Hamburg and his occupation as
"painter," just as the young man before him did. Both pieces of
information were incorrect for my great-grandfather.

I guess that's a long way of saying that it's certainly worth looking in
the books or on the CDs, but if you don't find your person, don't assume
he wasn't there.

(As I looked at your husband's ancestor's name again, I wondered if you
have thought to look for him as "Grunberg"? I have cousins named
Greenbaum, and on their manifests, they are "Grunbaum.")

Hope this is helpful.

Ilene Kanfer Murray
St. Louis, Missouri

Searching: ZEITLIN in Minsk; WEISBERG in Vitebsk


mamtze #belarus

Botwinick@...
 

My ggm >from Odessa married in Minsk.
How would she have a Hungarian nickname for Margaret?=Mamtze

Milton E. Botwinick
botwinick@...
Phila., PA USA


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: NYC Barge Office records #belarus

Michael Herzlich
 

My grandfather immigrated to NYC in 1891, the image
was online at Ancestry.com (an additional paid
subscription). It was also recorded at the point of
departure (Hamburg web site).

Michael Herzlich
Boca Raton, FL

HERZLICH, POLLACK, TREIBER, HELFAND, WACHTELBERG
Przemysl, Sambor, Slutsk


Belarus SIG #Belarus Barge Office Records #belarus

Ilene Murray <ilenemurray@...>
 

Laura Katz asked about Barge Office Records >from 1890-92.

Laura, the records >from the Barge Office were U. S. Customs Lists and
then Immigration Passenger Lists. The "new" Immigration forms really
were not in widespread use till 1893, although the precursor to the INS,
the Dept. of Immigration, began in 1891. These forms were turned over to
the federal government and microfilmed, just as the later Immigration
Passenger Lists were, and copies are widely available.

As you know, 1890 and 1891 are part of the port of New York's unindexed
years. You might check periodically at Ancestry.com, since they are in
the process of indexing those years online. If you don't have a
subscription, check with your local library.

As for the "Russians to America" series, they, too, are widely available
at libraries with genealogical departments. The first few volumes in the
series were in book form. They are a useful tool, but you must remember
that you are looking at names that were indexed by people who were not
familiar with YOUR family and YOUR spelling.

I did find my great-grandfather in one volume and it DID save me a lot
of searching, BUT I only found him in the book after I had located him
on a ship out of Hamburg. That gave me an approximate date of arrival in
New York and a boat. When I found him in the book, his name was spelled
so strangely that I knew I never would have recognized it. To complicate
things, he must have parroted the response of whoever was in front of
him because he gave his city of origin as Hamburg and his occupation as
"painter," just as the young man before him did. Both pieces of
information were incorrect for my great-grandfather.

I guess that's a long way of saying that it's certainly worth looking in
the books or on the CDs, but if you don't find your person, don't assume
he wasn't there.

(As I looked at your husband's ancestor's name again, I wondered if you
have thought to look for him as "Grunberg"? I have cousins named
Greenbaum, and on their manifests, they are "Grunbaum.")

Hope this is helpful.

Ilene Kanfer Murray
St. Louis, Missouri

Searching: ZEITLIN in Minsk; WEISBERG in Vitebsk


Belarus SIG #Belarus mamtze #belarus

Botwinick@...
 

My ggm >from Odessa married in Minsk.
How would she have a Hungarian nickname for Margaret?=Mamtze

Milton E. Botwinick
botwinick@...
Phila., PA USA


Searching for the family of Nina LEVY from England #general

Daniel Gee <DanielGee@...>
 

Dear Genners,
If you have the name LEVY in your family files,
please can you help? Can you check your notes to see if any
of the following names appear...
I am looking for the daughters of Alf and Jessie Levy;
Nina, Norma & Barbara.
The siblings would have been born in the mid to late
1930s in London, so they would now be in their mid 60s.
The problem, is that their surnames will have changed
if they married.
Any of advice would be much appreciated.
Happy Pesach!
Daniel Gleek in London


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for the family of Nina LEVY from England #general

Daniel Gee <DanielGee@...>
 

Dear Genners,
If you have the name LEVY in your family files,
please can you help? Can you check your notes to see if any
of the following names appear...
I am looking for the daughters of Alf and Jessie Levy;
Nina, Norma & Barbara.
The siblings would have been born in the mid to late
1930s in London, so they would now be in their mid 60s.
The problem, is that their surnames will have changed
if they married.
Any of advice would be much appreciated.
Happy Pesach!
Daniel Gleek in London


PS 192 (NY) 1916-1920 #general

Sara Lynns
 

curious if any of you had family members who attended
PS 192 1916-1920
If so...
do you have photos?
other information relevant to the school and this time
period

thank you!
Jackie Lerner-Aderman

please reply privately
saralynn7@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen PS 192 (NY) 1916-1920 #general

Sara Lynns
 

curious if any of you had family members who attended
PS 192 1916-1920
If so...
do you have photos?
other information relevant to the school and this time
period

thank you!
Jackie Lerner-Aderman

please reply privately
saralynn7@...


Webber / Rosenberg #general

Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
 

Just learned today that my mom's first cousin Jacob
Rosenberg b. 1892 IL, Parents Sarah Singman Rosenberg and
Max or Morris Rosenberg may have married In Boston to
Anne Webber or Weber, a jewish woman >from Halifax,
Nova Scotia.

from 1919 on he was in the US Navy and around the
1920s on a ship that docked at Halifax, NS for repairs.
He was invited to join a Jewish family where he met the
daughter Anne Webber. Then he was in a nightclub in Boston
in which the floor collapsed and his leg was smashed
( I would hope this made the Boston papers) and Anne went
to Boston to visit him. They may have Married there around
1924-1927 as the l930 US Census in New London, CT
has them living there near the US Coast Guard Academy and
being married four years. Actually, he was in the census
at the Coast GuardAcademy and was the enumerator for
the entire ED.

They had no children and he was in the Navy all his
life and probably retired as a Commander. Upon retirement he
lived in Washington DC and died in Dec. 1961.

I am interested in finding their marriage certificate
in Boston and would be happy to swap a search for anyone
interested in a vital record in the NYC archives.

Diane Jacobs
New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Webber / Rosenberg #general

Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
 

Just learned today that my mom's first cousin Jacob
Rosenberg b. 1892 IL, Parents Sarah Singman Rosenberg and
Max or Morris Rosenberg may have married In Boston to
Anne Webber or Weber, a jewish woman >from Halifax,
Nova Scotia.

from 1919 on he was in the US Navy and around the
1920s on a ship that docked at Halifax, NS for repairs.
He was invited to join a Jewish family where he met the
daughter Anne Webber. Then he was in a nightclub in Boston
in which the floor collapsed and his leg was smashed
( I would hope this made the Boston papers) and Anne went
to Boston to visit him. They may have Married there around
1924-1927 as the l930 US Census in New London, CT
has them living there near the US Coast Guard Academy and
being married four years. Actually, he was in the census
at the Coast GuardAcademy and was the enumerator for
the entire ED.

They had no children and he was in the Navy all his
life and probably retired as a Commander. Upon retirement he
lived in Washington DC and died in Dec. 1961.

I am interested in finding their marriage certificate
in Boston and would be happy to swap a search for anyone
interested in a vital record in the NYC archives.

Diane Jacobs
New York


KATZOFF research group #general

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

Does the KATZOFF research group still exist. I haven't
recieved mail >from them for a few years-maybe because
of my change of address.

Thanks

Yoni Ben-Ari (KATZOFF) , Efrat, Israel

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen KATZOFF research group #general

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

Does the KATZOFF research group still exist. I haven't
recieved mail >from them for a few years-maybe because
of my change of address.

Thanks

Yoni Ben-Ari (KATZOFF) , Efrat, Israel

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Rabbi Mayer S. ABROMOWITZ-Rabbinical personalities in New England #general

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

I know the chance is slim but:

My grandfather, Rabbi Chaim Yitzchak ABRAMOWITZ (1895-1964),
son of Meyer ABRAMOWITZ (d. 1917),of Jerusalem, emmigrated
to Hartford , Ct. around 1926/1928.

Is anyone out there who know the genealogy of the
Rabbi Mayer S. ABROMOWITZ, -not the same as the above-who
may know of a connection between the two ABRAMOWITZ's?

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel

MODERATOR NOTE: Have a look at the information on the
Rabbinic genealogy site:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Rabbinic/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rabbi Mayer S. ABROMOWITZ-Rabbinical personalities in New England #general

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

I know the chance is slim but:

My grandfather, Rabbi Chaim Yitzchak ABRAMOWITZ (1895-1964),
son of Meyer ABRAMOWITZ (d. 1917),of Jerusalem, emmigrated
to Hartford , Ct. around 1926/1928.

Is anyone out there who know the genealogy of the
Rabbi Mayer S. ABROMOWITZ, -not the same as the above-who
may know of a connection between the two ABRAMOWITZ's?

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel

MODERATOR NOTE: Have a look at the information on the
Rabbinic genealogy site:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Rabbinic/


information re: death/burial in Switzerland and Italy #general

Liz Halevy-Berger
 

Hi there everyone,
Hag Sameach!
I wonder if anyone out there could help me with
information about going about finding death and/or
burial dates in Switzerland and Italy - more
specifically, Lugano and Turin. I presume the best
would be if there are websites or e-mail addresses of
the relevant organizations.
I look forward to any help possible,
Liz elisabethhb@...

MODERATOR NOTE:
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/it-2.txt
and
http://www.jewishgen.org/GerSIG/
may be good places to start your search
for resources


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen information re: death/burial in Switzerland and Italy #general

Liz Halevy-Berger
 

Hi there everyone,
Hag Sameach!
I wonder if anyone out there could help me with
information about going about finding death and/or
burial dates in Switzerland and Italy - more
specifically, Lugano and Turin. I presume the best
would be if there are websites or e-mail addresses of
the relevant organizations.
I look forward to any help possible,
Liz elisabethhb@...

MODERATOR NOTE:
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/it-2.txt
and
http://www.jewishgen.org/GerSIG/
may be good places to start your search
for resources