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Re: Jewish Consumptives Relief Society in Denver #belarus

Yekkey@...
 

In a message dated 5/12/04 0:06:22, krupit@optonline.net writes:

<< Mary Was married to John Schechter son of Rabbi Louis Schecter- the
schoichet at that time..most likely- Denver >>

It is fitting for a shochet to be named Schechter because schechter means
shochet in Judaeo-German

Dan Nussbaum
New Bedford, Massachusetts


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Jewish Consumptives Relief Society in Denver #ukraine

Yekkey@...
 

In a message dated 5/12/04 0:06:22, krupit@optonline.net writes:

<< Mary Was married to John Schechter son of Rabbi Louis Schecter- the
schoichet at that time..most likely- Denver >>

It is fitting for a shochet to be named Schechter because schechter means
shochet in Judaeo-German

Dan Nussbaum
New Bedford, Massachusetts


Re: seeking country of origin for GERBER Russia > Providence, RI via NYC #usa

Marion Hattenbach Bernstein
 

My g-gf Hyman GERBER came to New York in 1885. All records (declaration of
intent, citizenship papers, census reports, death certificate) indicate that
he was born in "Russia" . Russia is a big place - I have no idea where.
Anyone have an idea which records might indicate anything morespecific? =======>
First of all -- at that time, most Jews could only live in specific
areas of "Russia" known as the Pale of Settlement. This includes
nearly all of Belarus and Poland.
Ideas for finding a town of origin:
Obituaries often indicate origin or location of family members.
Have you checked the Hamburg emigration database?
Did your great-grandfather belong to a Landsmanschaft? Was he a
member of a congregation where most of the members were >from a
particular area? Was he buried in a plot owned by such a group or congregation?
Do you have access to records about his siblings or parents?
Have you checked the gravestone? These all should be helpful.

Marion Hattenbach Bernstein San Antonio, TX hlb@texas.net


Early American SIG #USA Re: seeking country of origin for GERBER Russia > Providence, RI via NYC #usa

Marion Hattenbach Bernstein
 

My g-gf Hyman GERBER came to New York in 1885. All records (declaration of
intent, citizenship papers, census reports, death certificate) indicate that
he was born in "Russia" . Russia is a big place - I have no idea where.
Anyone have an idea which records might indicate anything morespecific? =======>
First of all -- at that time, most Jews could only live in specific
areas of "Russia" known as the Pale of Settlement. This includes
nearly all of Belarus and Poland.
Ideas for finding a town of origin:
Obituaries often indicate origin or location of family members.
Have you checked the Hamburg emigration database?
Did your great-grandfather belong to a Landsmanschaft? Was he a
member of a congregation where most of the members were >from a
particular area? Was he buried in a plot owned by such a group or congregation?
Do you have access to records about his siblings or parents?
Have you checked the gravestone? These all should be helpful.

Marion Hattenbach Bernstein San Antonio, TX hlb@texas.net


Re: R' Y. E. SPEKTOR & R' H. RABINOVICH of Kovno #rabbinic

SingingTM@...
 

Thank you to everyone who replied to my request for sources of
information about the great Gaon and teacher Rabbi Yitzhak Elchonan
SPEKTOR of Kovno and his son Rabbi H. RABINOWITZ (RABINOVICH).

It is interesting for me to learn that, according to "From
Generation to Generation," by Arthur Kurzweil, RABINOVITCH means
son of rabbi, and can be considered an occupational surname.

I have learned that Rabbi Yitzhak Elchonan SPEKTOR was named after
his two grandparents. I am now looking for information about the
family of his maternal grandfather Yitzhak. It is here where I hope
to find a link to my great grandmother's family, which could have
been identified either as VITMAN / WHITEMAN / WEISSMAN or as
BLANKFURT / BLANKFORT. Some BLANKFORT family lived in Sakiai (Shaky)
and Sirvintos (Shirvint) Lithuania.

The family story is that the VITMAN / WHITEMAN / WEISSMAN /
BLANKFORT family, in order to protect their sons >from conscription
in the Russian army, changed the surnames of two of their three
sons. One son was called Isaac Moshe (Moses) BLANKFORT, who was
trained as a rabbi, and came to the US and became a famous educator
who lived to the age of 101.

I have been in contact with BLANKFORT family members on the West
coast and some in New York, all of whom are related. I am still
attempting to identify WHITEMAN relatives in Canada and the UK.

Jeff Miller
Brookeville, MD
mailto:SingingTM@aol.com


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: R' Y. E. SPEKTOR & R' H. RABINOVICH of Kovno #rabbinic

SingingTM@...
 

Thank you to everyone who replied to my request for sources of
information about the great Gaon and teacher Rabbi Yitzhak Elchonan
SPEKTOR of Kovno and his son Rabbi H. RABINOWITZ (RABINOVICH).

It is interesting for me to learn that, according to "From
Generation to Generation," by Arthur Kurzweil, RABINOVITCH means
son of rabbi, and can be considered an occupational surname.

I have learned that Rabbi Yitzhak Elchonan SPEKTOR was named after
his two grandparents. I am now looking for information about the
family of his maternal grandfather Yitzhak. It is here where I hope
to find a link to my great grandmother's family, which could have
been identified either as VITMAN / WHITEMAN / WEISSMAN or as
BLANKFURT / BLANKFORT. Some BLANKFORT family lived in Sakiai (Shaky)
and Sirvintos (Shirvint) Lithuania.

The family story is that the VITMAN / WHITEMAN / WEISSMAN /
BLANKFORT family, in order to protect their sons >from conscription
in the Russian army, changed the surnames of two of their three
sons. One son was called Isaac Moshe (Moses) BLANKFORT, who was
trained as a rabbi, and came to the US and became a famous educator
who lived to the age of 101.

I have been in contact with BLANKFORT family members on the West
coast and some in New York, all of whom are related. I am still
attempting to identify WHITEMAN relatives in Canada and the UK.

Jeff Miller
Brookeville, MD
mailto:SingingTM@aol.com


Stories and Practices of German Jews #germany

Elizabeth Levy <ealevygen@...>
 

Dear Friends,

As Werner Frank put it in his last letter, "the folkways of our ancestors
are an important part of their history [and ours], and thus a part of our
genealogical research. More to this point, are the unique stories and practices
that will get lost, if not for the broader recapturing and recording of this
unique history."

I was very surprised to hear about the gingerbread custom and will write to
my relatives to see what their custom on this was. I think that these
stories are not only interesting but give so much of a personality to who
are ancestors were and how they lived. Despite that our moderator didn't
think that this was directly related to genealogy, I want to suggest that it
be allowed and even encouraged.

Does anyone else agree with me?

Perhaps there is some way that we can bring up/combine/collect these stories
and practices into some kind of databank on Jewishgen or Gersig. I don't
yet know how but I would be interested in hearing other's ideas and opinions.

In these days when our children seem to grow up with too much MTV, shopping
malls, etc and too few meaningful practices ..... I'd love to be able to
share with them some memories and practices >from the past.

Elizabeth Levy Mevassaret Zion ealevygen@hotmail.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply to ealevygen@hotmail.com and, if you wish, copy me
at GerSig@aol.com. Replies will NOT be posted to this Forum.

I do not believe that annecdotes about religious (or non-religious) customs
are on-topic to this Forum EXCEPT when they relate to the timing of life cycle
events which could shed light on some aspect of a family's history.

An example of an ON-TOPIC German Jewish custom would be the use of a wimpel.
Inscriptions on wimpels presented to local synagogues often contain genealogical
information. Hans David Blum recorded all the inscriptions >from wimpels at his
synagogue. When these burned with the synagogue David's work became especially
important.

I have suggested that Ms. Levy could receive responses to messages posted here
about various German Jewish customs. She could prepare a summary of the
information received on each topic and the *summary* (but not the individual
messages) could be posted here.

I have also suggested that Ms. Levy collect such information and write an article
for Stammbaum on the subject of German Jewish Folkways.

GerSig is bound by the rules of our hosts at JewishGen which restrict SIG forum
content. There is no point in debating this issue in this Forum. Those who
wish to question my position should take the matter up with JewishGen by writing
to: Support@jewishgen.org

Again, any message about folkways which might possibly assist people with their
family history research (such as the wimpel example above) will be posted here.

John Paul Lowens, Suburban NYC GerSig Moderator


German SIG #Germany Stories and Practices of German Jews #germany

Elizabeth Levy <ealevygen@...>
 

Dear Friends,

As Werner Frank put it in his last letter, "the folkways of our ancestors
are an important part of their history [and ours], and thus a part of our
genealogical research. More to this point, are the unique stories and practices
that will get lost, if not for the broader recapturing and recording of this
unique history."

I was very surprised to hear about the gingerbread custom and will write to
my relatives to see what their custom on this was. I think that these
stories are not only interesting but give so much of a personality to who
are ancestors were and how they lived. Despite that our moderator didn't
think that this was directly related to genealogy, I want to suggest that it
be allowed and even encouraged.

Does anyone else agree with me?

Perhaps there is some way that we can bring up/combine/collect these stories
and practices into some kind of databank on Jewishgen or Gersig. I don't
yet know how but I would be interested in hearing other's ideas and opinions.

In these days when our children seem to grow up with too much MTV, shopping
malls, etc and too few meaningful practices ..... I'd love to be able to
share with them some memories and practices >from the past.

Elizabeth Levy Mevassaret Zion ealevygen@hotmail.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply to ealevygen@hotmail.com and, if you wish, copy me
at GerSig@aol.com. Replies will NOT be posted to this Forum.

I do not believe that annecdotes about religious (or non-religious) customs
are on-topic to this Forum EXCEPT when they relate to the timing of life cycle
events which could shed light on some aspect of a family's history.

An example of an ON-TOPIC German Jewish custom would be the use of a wimpel.
Inscriptions on wimpels presented to local synagogues often contain genealogical
information. Hans David Blum recorded all the inscriptions >from wimpels at his
synagogue. When these burned with the synagogue David's work became especially
important.

I have suggested that Ms. Levy could receive responses to messages posted here
about various German Jewish customs. She could prepare a summary of the
information received on each topic and the *summary* (but not the individual
messages) could be posted here.

I have also suggested that Ms. Levy collect such information and write an article
for Stammbaum on the subject of German Jewish Folkways.

GerSig is bound by the rules of our hosts at JewishGen which restrict SIG forum
content. There is no point in debating this issue in this Forum. Those who
wish to question my position should take the matter up with JewishGen by writing
to: Support@jewishgen.org

Again, any message about folkways which might possibly assist people with their
family history research (such as the wimpel example above) will be posted here.

John Paul Lowens, Suburban NYC GerSig Moderator


Poland agrees to preserve Jewish cultural sites #poland

m.steinberg@...
 

Hello All,

You can find a story in today's Haaretz, describing the signing of an
agreement between the United States and Poland to preserve Jewish cultural
sites remaining >from the WorldWar II Nazi occupation of Poland at the
following site:

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/426498.html


All the best,
Moshe Steinberg
Vancouver, Canada

WAGNER, ADLER, EDER
Jezierzany, Grabowce, Pilatkowce, Czarnokonce, Losiacz

STEINBERG, GLAZER, HUDES
Hrubieszow, Uchanie, Lublin, California, Iowa

SANG, NAGLER, FISCHER (FISZER), HELMAN
Zaleshchiki, Borszczow, New York City, Israel

GRANIRER (GRANIERER), SALCMAN,
ARONOWICZ, KRONENFELD, FUHRMAN,
GOLDSCMIDT, SANDLER
Czernowitz, Israel, USA


MODERATOR'S NOTE: This post is being presented for informational purposes
and is not the beginning of a thread.


1790s: Kruszyna, Klomnice, Opatow, Praskza, and Stroiec #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

I would like to very much thank Greg Wardawy for translating and
transcribing 20 pages of census records >from the 1790s, for these five
towns:

Kruszyna
Klomnice (Dziwiczna and Hicznanice)
Opatow
Praskza
Stroiec

The complete pages are here, in a pdf file:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0512.1790sCensusPages.pdf

If the file format above does not work for you, let me know and I can send
it to you in Word or Excel.

Dan Kazez
........................................................
Daniel Kazez <dkazez@wittenberg.edu>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, BRODA, SZEWCZYK,
LEWKOWICZ, SZPALTYN, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPICKI, LUKS, MOSZKOWICZ, STROZ,
SZWIMER, GUTMAN, PESACH, FEYNER/FEINER/FAYNER, BORZYKOWSKI, SZEWCZYK,
SZWARCBERG, HILLER, FEDERMAN, WAJSHAUS, WAJSBERG, GELBART/GELBARD,
FINGERHUT, PLOTEK
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/talman/


JRI Poland #Poland Poland agrees to preserve Jewish cultural sites #poland

m.steinberg@...
 

Hello All,

You can find a story in today's Haaretz, describing the signing of an
agreement between the United States and Poland to preserve Jewish cultural
sites remaining >from the WorldWar II Nazi occupation of Poland at the
following site:

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/426498.html


All the best,
Moshe Steinberg
Vancouver, Canada

WAGNER, ADLER, EDER
Jezierzany, Grabowce, Pilatkowce, Czarnokonce, Losiacz

STEINBERG, GLAZER, HUDES
Hrubieszow, Uchanie, Lublin, California, Iowa

SANG, NAGLER, FISCHER (FISZER), HELMAN
Zaleshchiki, Borszczow, New York City, Israel

GRANIRER (GRANIERER), SALCMAN,
ARONOWICZ, KRONENFELD, FUHRMAN,
GOLDSCMIDT, SANDLER
Czernowitz, Israel, USA


MODERATOR'S NOTE: This post is being presented for informational purposes
and is not the beginning of a thread.


JRI Poland #Poland 1790s: Kruszyna, Klomnice, Opatow, Praskza, and Stroiec #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

I would like to very much thank Greg Wardawy for translating and
transcribing 20 pages of census records >from the 1790s, for these five
towns:

Kruszyna
Klomnice (Dziwiczna and Hicznanice)
Opatow
Praskza
Stroiec

The complete pages are here, in a pdf file:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0512.1790sCensusPages.pdf

If the file format above does not work for you, let me know and I can send
it to you in Word or Excel.

Dan Kazez
........................................................
Daniel Kazez <dkazez@wittenberg.edu>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, BRODA, SZEWCZYK,
LEWKOWICZ, SZPALTYN, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPICKI, LUKS, MOSZKOWICZ, STROZ,
SZWIMER, GUTMAN, PESACH, FEYNER/FEINER/FAYNER, BORZYKOWSKI, SZEWCZYK,
SZWARCBERG, HILLER, FEDERMAN, WAJSHAUS, WAJSBERG, GELBART/GELBARD,
FINGERHUT, PLOTEK
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/talman/


Re: The Jewish Consumptives' Relief Society (JCRS) in Denver Colo. #general

Bizsak
 

After 1954, when Tuberculosis came under control, the name changed to AMC
Cancer Research Center... Address: 1600 Pierce St. Denver, CO 80214. First
center involved in Research in the Prevention of Cancer and other Catastophic
diseases.. Celebrating its' 100th Anniversary this year!
Mickey Snitzer Izsak


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The Jewish Consumptives' Relief Society (JCRS) in Denver Colo. #general

Bizsak
 

After 1954, when Tuberculosis came under control, the name changed to AMC
Cancer Research Center... Address: 1600 Pierce St. Denver, CO 80214. First
center involved in Research in the Prevention of Cancer and other Catastophic
diseases.. Celebrating its' 100th Anniversary this year!
Mickey Snitzer Izsak


New York City County Clerk Offices #general

MIKE <grunt614@...>
 

Hello everyone
I was wondering if anyone knows the Address (snail mail) for the county
clerk for the five Boroughs in New York City. Can anyone also tell me if the
County Clerks Office for the Five Boroughs are electronically searchable. I
sent two search requests for Shloima/Samuel BROMAN and a
Hirsch-Icek/Harry/Herman BROMAN. I was told that there was no Records for
Shloima and a Declaration of intent for Herman.So as you can see I have
exausted all leads and I need help >from my fello Genealogist.

Mike Broman
Tampa, Florida
please respond privately

grunt614@tampabay.rr.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New York City County Clerk Offices #general

MIKE <grunt614@...>
 

Hello everyone
I was wondering if anyone knows the Address (snail mail) for the county
clerk for the five Boroughs in New York City. Can anyone also tell me if the
County Clerks Office for the Five Boroughs are electronically searchable. I
sent two search requests for Shloima/Samuel BROMAN and a
Hirsch-Icek/Harry/Herman BROMAN. I was told that there was no Records for
Shloima and a Declaration of intent for Herman.So as you can see I have
exausted all leads and I need help >from my fello Genealogist.

Mike Broman
Tampa, Florida
please respond privately

grunt614@tampabay.rr.com


TOLCHINSKY Family - Ukraine #general

Vogel <morvog@...>
 

To all Genners
Is there anyone who has information on the Tolchinsky family who lived in
Konela in the Ukraine in the early years of the 1900's.
The names I am interested in obtaining information about are:
Mordechai and Batsheva (formely Shumacher) Tolchinsky
Their children
Shmuel, Leib, Freda, Liba, Sheindel & Shoshana (Rose).
The parents died before WW1,and their children, except Liba emigrated to
England and settled in South Wales.
Any information would be appreciated.
Mordechai (Max) Vogel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen TOLCHINSKY Family - Ukraine #general

Vogel <morvog@...>
 

To all Genners
Is there anyone who has information on the Tolchinsky family who lived in
Konela in the Ukraine in the early years of the 1900's.
The names I am interested in obtaining information about are:
Mordechai and Batsheva (formely Shumacher) Tolchinsky
Their children
Shmuel, Leib, Freda, Liba, Sheindel & Shoshana (Rose).
The parents died before WW1,and their children, except Liba emigrated to
England and settled in South Wales.
Any information would be appreciated.
Mordechai (Max) Vogel


Vilnius birth certificate #general

Betty Gardiner <bettygardiner@...>
 

Hi, fellow genners; can anyone tell me how I can obtain a birth
certificate of 1871 in Vilnius, Lithuania? Also, I have changed my ISP,
and am now contactable at bettygardiner@tiscali.co.uk Shalom to all.
Betty. Seeking information of any kind on ITSKOVICH.

MODERATOR NOTE: As is so often the case, the answer can be found in
JewishGen's InfoFiles. Go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/FHLC/VilnaMicrofilmsIndex.htm
and click on Vilnius. For an index to all the InfoFiles, go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Vilnius birth certificate #general

Betty Gardiner <bettygardiner@...>
 

Hi, fellow genners; can anyone tell me how I can obtain a birth
certificate of 1871 in Vilnius, Lithuania? Also, I have changed my ISP,
and am now contactable at bettygardiner@tiscali.co.uk Shalom to all.
Betty. Seeking information of any kind on ITSKOVICH.

MODERATOR NOTE: As is so often the case, the answer can be found in
JewishGen's InfoFiles. Go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/FHLC/VilnaMicrofilmsIndex.htm
and click on Vilnius. For an index to all the InfoFiles, go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/.