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Re: Isabella #general

Judith27
 

Dear Joy,
As I have been reading the several posts on Isabelle and Jezebel, I keep
returning to my first two thoughts: "What does Kolatch say?" and "Isa!"
I just checked my trusty copy of Rabbi Alfred Kolatch's "The New Name
Dictionary". He apparently only sees Isabelle as a form of Elizabeth, and
suggests checking for meanings and related names to Elizabeth. (I only
found Jezebel listed as Izevel (Aleph-Yud-Zayi-Vais-Lamed) in his appendix
of feminine names printed in Hebrew.)
However, I remember a girl I once knew >from my summers at Camp Ramah
whose first name was Isa -- and who had been named for her grandfather, Isaac.
I think her Hebrew name was Yitzchaka, a feminine form of Yitzhak (Isaac).
Other Hebrew name possibilities usually would include Hebrew names
similar in meaning to Elizabeth,such as the Elisheva that was suggested to
you, or Hebrew names such as Ilana and Israela (Yisraela), for names that
would give that same initial "I" or "Is" sound, possibly even Esther if you
want to extend it to an initial "Es" sound. Or you could always pick a Hebrew
name you like.
Shalom,
Judi Langer-Surname Caplan
Long Beach, NY

In a message dated 5/11/2004 2:00:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org writes:

From: news [mailto:news@hunter.news.rcn.net]On Behalf Of Joy Weaver
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 9:21 PM
To: JewishGen Discussion Group
Subject: Jewish name for Isabelle?

While all these posts are flowing about Yiddish or Hebrew names, I
thought this might be a good time to ask about my middle name. I was
named Joyce Isabelle. The Joyce was for my mgm, Sheina/ Jean, and the
Isabelle for my pgf, Isadore/ Yitzak. I was never given a Jewish
equivalent for the middle name. A rabbi once told me I
could use
Elisheva, but that doesn't seem to sit right. Any thoughts?

Joy Weaver
East Islip, NY


Isabel, Elizabeth, and Jezebel #general

Dick Plotz
 

The online etymology dictionary at

http://www.etymonline.com/

states in its entry on "jezebel" (the common noun) that the name
Jezebel is "said to be" the source for both Isabel and Elizabeth.
This is a remarkably detailed resource, and while its accuracy
can be debated, the seriousness of its compiler is evident.

As in many cases of name origins, the truth may be impossible to
come by; in fact, it's entirely possible for one name to have more
than one true origin. See etymonline's entry for "Joel" for an
example.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Isabella #general

Judith27
 

Dear Joy,
As I have been reading the several posts on Isabelle and Jezebel, I keep
returning to my first two thoughts: "What does Kolatch say?" and "Isa!"
I just checked my trusty copy of Rabbi Alfred Kolatch's "The New Name
Dictionary". He apparently only sees Isabelle as a form of Elizabeth, and
suggests checking for meanings and related names to Elizabeth. (I only
found Jezebel listed as Izevel (Aleph-Yud-Zayi-Vais-Lamed) in his appendix
of feminine names printed in Hebrew.)
However, I remember a girl I once knew >from my summers at Camp Ramah
whose first name was Isa -- and who had been named for her grandfather, Isaac.
I think her Hebrew name was Yitzchaka, a feminine form of Yitzhak (Isaac).
Other Hebrew name possibilities usually would include Hebrew names
similar in meaning to Elizabeth,such as the Elisheva that was suggested to
you, or Hebrew names such as Ilana and Israela (Yisraela), for names that
would give that same initial "I" or "Is" sound, possibly even Esther if you
want to extend it to an initial "Es" sound. Or you could always pick a Hebrew
name you like.
Shalom,
Judi Langer-Surname Caplan
Long Beach, NY

In a message dated 5/11/2004 2:00:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org writes:

From: news [mailto:news@hunter.news.rcn.net]On Behalf Of Joy Weaver
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 9:21 PM
To: JewishGen Discussion Group
Subject: Jewish name for Isabelle?

While all these posts are flowing about Yiddish or Hebrew names, I
thought this might be a good time to ask about my middle name. I was
named Joyce Isabelle. The Joyce was for my mgm, Sheina/ Jean, and the
Isabelle for my pgf, Isadore/ Yitzak. I was never given a Jewish
equivalent for the middle name. A rabbi once told me I
could use
Elisheva, but that doesn't seem to sit right. Any thoughts?

Joy Weaver
East Islip, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Isabel, Elizabeth, and Jezebel #general

Dick Plotz
 

The online etymology dictionary at

http://www.etymonline.com/

states in its entry on "jezebel" (the common noun) that the name
Jezebel is "said to be" the source for both Isabel and Elizabeth.
This is a remarkably detailed resource, and while its accuracy
can be debated, the seriousness of its compiler is evident.

As in many cases of name origins, the truth may be impossible to
come by; in fact, it's entirely possible for one name to have more
than one true origin. See etymonline's entry for "Joel" for an
example.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA


Re: Jewish name for Isabelle? #general

chaikin <chaikin@...>
 

Robert Israel israel@math.ubc.ca wrote:

See for instance
<http://www.geocities.com/edgarbook/names/i/isabel.html>
and
<http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/definition/english/is/isabel.html>

=In another site, there is another possibility, to which I referred, and to
me it makes much more sense:
http://www.behindthename.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?terms=isabel&nmd=n&gender=both&operator=or

Best regards,
Udi Cain, Israel

p.s.
In my recent note I made a mistake, due to hard work on few matters late at
night, and ask your forgiveness: Elisheva was Aaron's wife and not
Solomon's.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jewish name for Isabelle? #general

chaikin <chaikin@...>
 

Robert Israel israel@math.ubc.ca wrote:

See for instance
<http://www.geocities.com/edgarbook/names/i/isabel.html>
and
<http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/definition/english/is/isabel.html>

=In another site, there is another possibility, to which I referred, and to
me it makes much more sense:
http://www.behindthename.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?terms=isabel&nmd=n&gender=both&operator=or

Best regards,
Udi Cain, Israel

p.s.
In my recent note I made a mistake, due to hard work on few matters late at
night, and ask your forgiveness: Elisheva was Aaron's wife and not
Solomon's.


Joshua Meyer/Minette Bloch, Dauendorf #france

Gordon Bonnet <jaggy227@...>
 

Hi all,

Wondering if anyone might know anything about a Joshua Meyer, b. ca.
1804, m. Minette Bloch, b. ca. 1806. They were living in Dauendorf,
Bas-Rhin, as of the 1851 census.

Thanks!

cheers,

Gordon

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French SIG #France Joshua Meyer/Minette Bloch, Dauendorf #france

Gordon Bonnet <jaggy227@...>
 

Hi all,

Wondering if anyone might know anything about a Joshua Meyer, b. ca.
1804, m. Minette Bloch, b. ca. 1806. They were living in Dauendorf,
Bas-Rhin, as of the 1851 census.

Thanks!

cheers,

Gordon

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residence with your signature, as per JewishGen rules.


Re: Success -- Searching Manfred SILBERWASSER, Vienna -> France c1942 survivor #france

Bernard Kouchel <koosh@...>
 

Both >from Vienna, they met at Drancy detention camp and became friends. On
Convoy #42 in the direction of Auschwitz, as night approached and they
neared the German border they managed to break the window bars. They jumped
from the train and spent about 2 weeks together, then saw each other one
more time (briefly) less than a year later. After that Leo Bretholz lost
track of Manfred Silberwasser.


Today, 60+ years later, the search of Mr Bretholz' (of Baltimore MD) ended
successfully. Within 24 hours of his search request, he was in telephone
contact with the Silberwasser family (of France). Unfortunately Mr.
Silberwasser died two years ago, but his wife and son will continue their
friendship.

Mr Brethholz e-mailed me last night saying: "When I saw the subject
"Silberwasser, SUCCESS" on your e-mail, I couldn't believe it. Flo [Mrs
Bretholz] and I have been on such a long search for him - sorry we didn't
contact you sooner. So sad that he died just two years ago."


My thanks to Eve Line Blum of France, whose assistance made this survivor
search a success.
--
Bernard Kouchel
koosh@att.net

----- Original Message -----
Bernard Kouchel wrote:
Searching for information regarding Manfred SILBERWASSER who is listed in
Klarfeld's book on Convoy #42, Nov, 6, 1942.

A recent e:mail >from Leo BRETHOLZ, also listed on Convoy #42 informed me
that...
"Actually, my friend (whom I met in the camp of Drancy) Manfred
Silberwasser
and I escaped >from the train, and we stayed that night with a very kind
Catholic priest."

I am assisting Leo Bretholz is his search for his friend Manfred (both
originally >from Vienna). Any leads would be appreciated.

Incidentally, Mr Brethholz' memoir was published in the US, England, and
the
Netherlands in 1999.
Entitled "Leap Into Darkness - Seven Years on the Run in Wartime Europe"
See
review here: http://tinyurl.com/32klv


French SIG #France Re: Success -- Searching Manfred SILBERWASSER, Vienna -> France c1942 survivor #france

Bernard Kouchel <koosh@...>
 

Both >from Vienna, they met at Drancy detention camp and became friends. On
Convoy #42 in the direction of Auschwitz, as night approached and they
neared the German border they managed to break the window bars. They jumped
from the train and spent about 2 weeks together, then saw each other one
more time (briefly) less than a year later. After that Leo Bretholz lost
track of Manfred Silberwasser.


Today, 60+ years later, the search of Mr Bretholz' (of Baltimore MD) ended
successfully. Within 24 hours of his search request, he was in telephone
contact with the Silberwasser family (of France). Unfortunately Mr.
Silberwasser died two years ago, but his wife and son will continue their
friendship.

Mr Brethholz e-mailed me last night saying: "When I saw the subject
"Silberwasser, SUCCESS" on your e-mail, I couldn't believe it. Flo [Mrs
Bretholz] and I have been on such a long search for him - sorry we didn't
contact you sooner. So sad that he died just two years ago."


My thanks to Eve Line Blum of France, whose assistance made this survivor
search a success.
--
Bernard Kouchel
koosh@att.net

----- Original Message -----
Bernard Kouchel wrote:
Searching for information regarding Manfred SILBERWASSER who is listed in
Klarfeld's book on Convoy #42, Nov, 6, 1942.

A recent e:mail >from Leo BRETHOLZ, also listed on Convoy #42 informed me
that...
"Actually, my friend (whom I met in the camp of Drancy) Manfred
Silberwasser
and I escaped >from the train, and we stayed that night with a very kind
Catholic priest."

I am assisting Leo Bretholz is his search for his friend Manfred (both
originally >from Vienna). Any leads would be appreciated.

Incidentally, Mr Brethholz' memoir was published in the US, England, and
the
Netherlands in 1999.
Entitled "Leap Into Darkness - Seven Years on the Run in Wartime Europe"
See
review here: http://tinyurl.com/32klv


Shoykhet and Shekhter #ukraine

Shirley Manuel <szmanuel@...>
 

Subject: Re: Jewish Consumptives Relief Society in
Denver
From: Yekkey@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 20:10:44 EDT
X-Message-Number: 3

In a message dated 5/12/04 0:06:22,
krupit@optonline.net writes:
<< Mary Was married to John Schechter son of Rabbi
Louis Schecter- the
schoichet at that time..most likely- Denver >>

 >It is fitting for a shochet to be named Schechter
>because schechter means shochet in Judaeo-German.
  Dan Nussbaum
  New Bedford, Massachusetts

With respect to our beloved ancestors of Eastern
Europe, the Jewish languages they used in daily
living in the house and for reading in the synagogue
were Yiddish and Hebrew, respectively.   A shoykhet
and a shekhter are both Yiddish and Hebrew
terms used by Jews.
Shirley Manuel
New Jersey  USA
 
MANILEVICH  Vasilkov and Kiyev    SHVARTZ 
Suchowola    KAPLAN Grodno
FISHER  Dabrowa     SOPEL Suchowola    GALANTI  Grodno


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Shoykhet and Shekhter #ukraine

Shirley Manuel <szmanuel@...>
 

Subject: Re: Jewish Consumptives Relief Society in
Denver
From: Yekkey@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 20:10:44 EDT
X-Message-Number: 3

In a message dated 5/12/04 0:06:22,
krupit@optonline.net writes:
<< Mary Was married to John Schechter son of Rabbi
Louis Schecter- the
schoichet at that time..most likely- Denver >>

 >It is fitting for a shochet to be named Schechter
>because schechter means shochet in Judaeo-German.
  Dan Nussbaum
  New Bedford, Massachusetts

With respect to our beloved ancestors of Eastern
Europe, the Jewish languages they used in daily
living in the house and for reading in the synagogue
were Yiddish and Hebrew, respectively.   A shoykhet
and a shekhter are both Yiddish and Hebrew
terms used by Jews.
Shirley Manuel
New Jersey  USA
 
MANILEVICH  Vasilkov and Kiyev    SHVARTZ 
Suchowola    KAPLAN Grodno
FISHER  Dabrowa     SOPEL Suchowola    GALANTI  Grodno


Rothchild-Valcau de Jos #ukraine

hfpjc
 

Hi there everyone,

Does anyone out there in JewishGen Land know any descendants of the
Rothchilds of Valcau de Jos, Romania?

As I've recently posted, we at the Heritage Foundation for Preservation of
Jewish Cemeteries (HFPJC) are preparing to restore, among others, the
rather neglected Jewish cemetery of Valcau. We are missing some important
info regarding the Rothchild tombstones, so if you are descending >from the
VAlcau Rothchilds or know someone who is, I'd really appreciate if you could
contact our office via e-mail (hfpjc@thejnet.com) or phone (800-945-1552).

Thanks a lot,

Toby Mendlowitz
Assistant director
HFPJC
Brooklyn, NY


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Rothchild-Valcau de Jos #ukraine

hfpjc
 

Hi there everyone,

Does anyone out there in JewishGen Land know any descendants of the
Rothchilds of Valcau de Jos, Romania?

As I've recently posted, we at the Heritage Foundation for Preservation of
Jewish Cemeteries (HFPJC) are preparing to restore, among others, the
rather neglected Jewish cemetery of Valcau. We are missing some important
info regarding the Rothchild tombstones, so if you are descending >from the
VAlcau Rothchilds or know someone who is, I'd really appreciate if you could
contact our office via e-mail (hfpjc@thejnet.com) or phone (800-945-1552).

Thanks a lot,

Toby Mendlowitz
Assistant director
HFPJC
Brooklyn, NY


Dr. Neil Risch's lecture #general

Naidia Woolf <rnwoolf@...>
 

For those who've expressed an interest in Dr. Neil Risch (well-known geneticist at Stanford University)'s lecture on human genetics, a summary of same (showing highlights of his lecture only) can be viewed in JewishGen's View Mate under the category of "Sharing" --

I apologize for not responding directly to the many individuals who've asked for a copy of same -- I have been inundated with requests! (Shades of Noah and the Ark!)

View Mate #4095.

Naidia Woolf
San Francisco, CA
Formerly >from Birmingham, England
rnwoolf@earthlink.net

MODERATOR NOTE: The direct URL of this image is
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4095


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Dr. Neil Risch's lecture #general

Naidia Woolf <rnwoolf@...>
 

For those who've expressed an interest in Dr. Neil Risch (well-known geneticist at Stanford University)'s lecture on human genetics, a summary of same (showing highlights of his lecture only) can be viewed in JewishGen's View Mate under the category of "Sharing" --

I apologize for not responding directly to the many individuals who've asked for a copy of same -- I have been inundated with requests! (Shades of Noah and the Ark!)

View Mate #4095.

Naidia Woolf
San Francisco, CA
Formerly >from Birmingham, England
rnwoolf@earthlink.net

MODERATOR NOTE: The direct URL of this image is
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4095


Morris MICHAELOVITCH from Ukraine #general

sandrabergman <sandrabergman@...>
 

I am trying to contact descendants of a Morris Michaelovitch. Birthplace
unknown. He may have lived at some time in Kiev.He was living in
Berdichev, Ukraine in 1907 when he left that part of the world.

There is some information that places him in San Diego, California around
1909.

Would appreciate any help.

Sandra Bergman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Morris MICHAELOVITCH from Ukraine #general

sandrabergman <sandrabergman@...>
 

I am trying to contact descendants of a Morris Michaelovitch. Birthplace
unknown. He may have lived at some time in Kiev.He was living in
Berdichev, Ukraine in 1907 when he left that part of the world.

There is some information that places him in San Diego, California around
1909.

Would appreciate any help.

Sandra Bergman


Spelling of name REBENSTOCK in Eastern Galicia #general

ABRAHAM GORDON
 

Dear Genners,

My father's family name is REBENSTOCK. The family lived in Podhajce and
Zlotniki and other nearby towns in Southeastern Galicia.

I have various family records >from AGAD showing the name REBENSTOCK spelled
REWENSTOCK, REWINSTOCK and several other variations. I would like to know
if the letters *B* and *W* were interchangeable in their usage.

Thanks for your help.

Sylvia Gordon
New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Spelling of name REBENSTOCK in Eastern Galicia #general

ABRAHAM GORDON
 

Dear Genners,

My father's family name is REBENSTOCK. The family lived in Podhajce and
Zlotniki and other nearby towns in Southeastern Galicia.

I have various family records >from AGAD showing the name REBENSTOCK spelled
REWENSTOCK, REWINSTOCK and several other variations. I would like to know
if the letters *B* and *W* were interchangeable in their usage.

Thanks for your help.

Sylvia Gordon
New York