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KORN/FRYDMAN/REMBELINKIER from Przasnysz (names changed?) #poland

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

Szaia KORN married Ester Laia DZIEDZIC in Przasnysz
in 1893. When she died, he married her sister Chawa Basia DZIEDZIC
in 1899. According to the marriage records, his parents were Rafal
and Chaja Mindla (nee RETBOLINGER transcribed >from Russian) KORN and
he was born in Pultusk around 1869.

I find no record of a single KORN in Przasnysz. There are some KORN
in Pultusk after 1882 but nothing before (records only exist >from 1875
on it seems).

However, I did find an intriguing possibility(?) in Przasnysz.
In 1843, a Rafal FRYDMAN married Mindla REMBIELINKIER (transcribed >from
Polish). Rafal is a very rare name in this area in my experience.

Do you all think that Szaia KORN changed his surname >from FRYDMAN
to KORN or is this just a coincidence?

Also, a Rafal FRYDMAN died in Pultusk in 1875 and I am ordering that
death record.

Please reply privately to <meyers01@comcast.net>

Thanks,

Marty Meyers

researching:
BORDOWITZ(WICZ) >from Przasnysz/Mlawa/Ciechanow/Makow/Pultusk/Wyskow
ZYLBERMAN/SILVERMAN/BRZYSKIER/DZIEDZIC >from Przasnysz/Chorzele
ALENSZTEJN/RUDA >from Przasnysz/Mlawa
MEYEROWITZ/POROSHKIN >from Bolshaya Berestovitsa (Belarus)
KIRSHNER/SIDMAN/BAILIN >from Slavuta/Volhynia/Ukraine
LANDSMAN/LANCMAN/FINBERG/PEANEN >from Vilna
ZELMANOVICH/ROZENSZTEIN >from Poland (Przasnysz/Janova area?)


JRI Poland #Poland KORN/FRYDMAN/REMBELINKIER from Przasnysz (names changed?) #poland

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

Szaia KORN married Ester Laia DZIEDZIC in Przasnysz
in 1893. When she died, he married her sister Chawa Basia DZIEDZIC
in 1899. According to the marriage records, his parents were Rafal
and Chaja Mindla (nee RETBOLINGER transcribed >from Russian) KORN and
he was born in Pultusk around 1869.

I find no record of a single KORN in Przasnysz. There are some KORN
in Pultusk after 1882 but nothing before (records only exist >from 1875
on it seems).

However, I did find an intriguing possibility(?) in Przasnysz.
In 1843, a Rafal FRYDMAN married Mindla REMBIELINKIER (transcribed >from
Polish). Rafal is a very rare name in this area in my experience.

Do you all think that Szaia KORN changed his surname >from FRYDMAN
to KORN or is this just a coincidence?

Also, a Rafal FRYDMAN died in Pultusk in 1875 and I am ordering that
death record.

Please reply privately to <meyers01@comcast.net>

Thanks,

Marty Meyers

researching:
BORDOWITZ(WICZ) >from Przasnysz/Mlawa/Ciechanow/Makow/Pultusk/Wyskow
ZYLBERMAN/SILVERMAN/BRZYSKIER/DZIEDZIC >from Przasnysz/Chorzele
ALENSZTEJN/RUDA >from Przasnysz/Mlawa
MEYEROWITZ/POROSHKIN >from Bolshaya Berestovitsa (Belarus)
KIRSHNER/SIDMAN/BAILIN >from Slavuta/Volhynia/Ukraine
LANDSMAN/LANCMAN/FINBERG/PEANEN >from Vilna
ZELMANOVICH/ROZENSZTEIN >from Poland (Przasnysz/Janova area?)


first posting #poland

Iris Stockbridge <irzcwjg7@...>
 

Looking forward to learning more about Polish Jews, especially in Texas.
Any with connections in the Caribbean? Aruba? any raised as Christians,
not told during the war and after that they were Jews?

Iris Rozencwajg
Houston

MODERATOR'S NOTE: If you have information, resources or research
suggestions for Iris, please respond privately.


JRI Poland #Poland first posting #poland

Iris Stockbridge <irzcwjg7@...>
 

Looking forward to learning more about Polish Jews, especially in Texas.
Any with connections in the Caribbean? Aruba? any raised as Christians,
not told during the war and after that they were Jews?

Iris Rozencwajg
Houston

MODERATOR'S NOTE: If you have information, resources or research
suggestions for Iris, please respond privately.


Bialystok Researchers Andrew FARBER and Claire OPPENHEIM #poland

Mark Halpern
 

I am trying to get in touch with Andrew FARBER and Claire
OPPENHEIM with information about the JRI-Poland Bialystok
indexing project. Both of their email addresses have bounced.

Andrew FARBER email was asfarber@holli.com
Claire OPPENHEIM email was oppenhei@online.bc.ca

Please contact me privately if you know how to contact either
Andrew or Claire.

Mark Halpern
Bialystok Archive Coordinator
JRI-Poland


JRI Poland #Poland Bialystok Researchers Andrew FARBER and Claire OPPENHEIM #poland

Mark Halpern
 

I am trying to get in touch with Andrew FARBER and Claire
OPPENHEIM with information about the JRI-Poland Bialystok
indexing project. Both of their email addresses have bounced.

Andrew FARBER email was asfarber@holli.com
Claire OPPENHEIM email was oppenhei@online.bc.ca

Please contact me privately if you know how to contact either
Andrew or Claire.

Mark Halpern
Bialystok Archive Coordinator
JRI-Poland


VILKAVISKIS vital records - whether, where, who? #lithuania

Wayne N. Frankel <wnf@...>
 

Dear Listers,

My cousins and I are trying to determine if there are vital records
for around 1900 and earlier >from VILKAVISKIS (aka VILKAVISHKI,
WOLKOVYSKI, WILKAWISC), Lithuania. It is unclear to us what is, or
isn't available for this town. While there now seems to be a cache
of vital records for many towns in at least two Lithuanian provinces,
Kovno and Vilna, there is no mention of VILKAVISKIS amongst them (as
far as we can tell). Although there are facile means to endorse and
support record finding research within the Litvak SIG group via the
Litvak SIG web site, this SIG does not appear to cover towns in the
VILKAVISKIS uzeyd. On the other hand, the Suwalk-Lomza SIG does
cover the region as VILKAVISKIS is in the old Suwalk province. But
the back-issues of their Landsman journal do not index such records
nor can I determine >from the indices whether anyone in the group has
found them, or has undertaken their research.

We would greatly appeciate suggestions for how to proceed further with this.

Thanks again for your help,

Wayne Frankel
Bar Harbor

Researching FRANKEL, FRIEDLANDER, BOBLAWSKI, SASS

MODERATOR'S NOTE: A search of the archival database on Miriam Weiner's
Routes to Routes Foundation website < www.rtrfoundation.org > will show
there are very few surviving vital records for Vilkaviskis.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania VILKAVISKIS vital records - whether, where, who? #lithuania

Wayne N. Frankel <wnf@...>
 

Dear Listers,

My cousins and I are trying to determine if there are vital records
for around 1900 and earlier >from VILKAVISKIS (aka VILKAVISHKI,
WOLKOVYSKI, WILKAWISC), Lithuania. It is unclear to us what is, or
isn't available for this town. While there now seems to be a cache
of vital records for many towns in at least two Lithuanian provinces,
Kovno and Vilna, there is no mention of VILKAVISKIS amongst them (as
far as we can tell). Although there are facile means to endorse and
support record finding research within the Litvak SIG group via the
Litvak SIG web site, this SIG does not appear to cover towns in the
VILKAVISKIS uzeyd. On the other hand, the Suwalk-Lomza SIG does
cover the region as VILKAVISKIS is in the old Suwalk province. But
the back-issues of their Landsman journal do not index such records
nor can I determine >from the indices whether anyone in the group has
found them, or has undertaken their research.

We would greatly appeciate suggestions for how to proceed further with this.

Thanks again for your help,

Wayne Frankel
Bar Harbor

Researching FRANKEL, FRIEDLANDER, BOBLAWSKI, SASS

MODERATOR'S NOTE: A search of the archival database on Miriam Weiner's
Routes to Routes Foundation website < www.rtrfoundation.org > will show
there are very few surviving vital records for Vilkaviskis.


PLUNGE, LITHUANIA RECORDS #lithuania

Howard Margol <homargol@...>
 

A note of caution when discussing PLUNGE, POLANGEN, PALANGA.
Plunge was in the Telsiai District and Palanga was in the Klaipeda
District - they were, and still are, entirely separate towns approx.
20 miles apart. Many records for both Plunge and Palanga still exist
In the Lithuanian archives. However, I would be surprised if records
for Plunge exist in the Riga archive.

Howard Margol - Email: homargol@aol.com

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Elaine Bush might be interested to know that the records on Plunge
have not entirely disappeared. The area was at one time in the
district of Grobin in Courland [Latvia]. The Latvian Archives in Riga
have the following records for Plunge, known in German as Polangen
and in Latvian as Palanga:

The lists of Merchants: 1895, 1900-1917

Martha Levinson Lev-Zion, Ph.D.
martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania PLUNGE, LITHUANIA RECORDS #lithuania

Howard Margol <homargol@...>
 

A note of caution when discussing PLUNGE, POLANGEN, PALANGA.
Plunge was in the Telsiai District and Palanga was in the Klaipeda
District - they were, and still are, entirely separate towns approx.
20 miles apart. Many records for both Plunge and Palanga still exist
In the Lithuanian archives. However, I would be surprised if records
for Plunge exist in the Riga archive.

Howard Margol - Email: homargol@aol.com

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Elaine Bush might be interested to know that the records on Plunge
have not entirely disappeared. The area was at one time in the
district of Grobin in Courland [Latvia]. The Latvian Archives in Riga
have the following records for Plunge, known in German as Polangen
and in Latvian as Palanga:

The lists of Merchants: 1895, 1900-1917

Martha Levinson Lev-Zion, Ph.D.
martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il


PARDO/PAREDO #rabbinic

lionbenjudah <lionbenjudah@...>
 

Please, can you provide me with any details on some old Sephardic
rabbis: the famous PAREDO/PARDO. I am interested in David PARDO,
my cousins Joseph PARDO, Saul PARDO born in Newport, Rhode Island,
Moshe PARDO of Alexandria, Egypt, etc.

I will be very grateful for any help you can give me!!!

Thanks again.

Regards and Shalom.

Dr. Prof. Jose Pardo, Ph.D.
Murcia, Spain


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic PARDO/PAREDO #rabbinic

lionbenjudah <lionbenjudah@...>
 

Please, can you provide me with any details on some old Sephardic
rabbis: the famous PAREDO/PARDO. I am interested in David PARDO,
my cousins Joseph PARDO, Saul PARDO born in Newport, Rhode Island,
Moshe PARDO of Alexandria, Egypt, etc.

I will be very grateful for any help you can give me!!!

Thanks again.

Regards and Shalom.

Dr. Prof. Jose Pardo, Ph.D.
Murcia, Spain


How to Confirm Original Name While Living in Belarus? #belarus

Deborah Chernin <dchernin@...>
 

Hello,

I am trying to confirm my ggfather's real name when he lived in Bobruisk. His name
in the US was ISIDOR CHERNIN (abt 1877 - 1959). Like many others, he is said to
have been "adopted" by another family (EPSTEIN adopted by CHERNIN, or vice versa)
in order to avoid conscription into the Czar's army. (Ironically, he later
enlisted anyway.) His immigration and naturalization records identify him as
ISIDOR CHERNIN. According to his headstone, his father was ISRAEL ZEV HALEVI
CHERNIN.

I have records >from Belarus/Minsk/Bobruisk (>from Natl Hist Archives of Belarus)
and have found a few ISRAEL or SROL CHERNINs and other similar entries that could
be him, but nothing definitive.

I have also searched the Belarus websites and, of course, found many, many entries
for names similar to ISIDOR or ISRAEL EPSTEIN. There are some that could be him,
but again, nothing that I can confirm.


Here are the few facts I know about him >from his years in or near Bobruisk:

1. He was a blacksmith in the Czar's army, where he lost his thumb.

2. He married Sarah KAVALEER or KAVALERCHIK in about 1896.

3. They had two children while in Russia - Benjamin (DOB 1898) and Sadie (DOB 1900)


4. BENJAMIN CHERNIN (DOB 1898) went to school while in Russia. He may have been
known as Norman.

5. ISIDOR CHERNIN came to US in 1903. Sarah and the 2 children arrived in 1905.

6. He had a sister or niece that also came to the US. Her name was FRADA YUDIN.


Some Questions:

a. At what age would he likely have been conscripted into the Army? and are there
records available of enlisted men?

b. Are school records available?

c. Any ideas for how to confirm if my ggf was ISIDOR CHERNIN or ISIDOR EPSTEIN?

d. Any suggestions for other ways I might be able to confirm his "real" name?

Your help would be greatly appreciated!! I've been stuck on this for years...
Many thanks!

Deborah Chernin
Oakland, CA
dchernin@earthlink.net

Looking for:
CHERNIN, TSHERNIN, TCHERNIN, TZERNIN, EPSTEIN, KAVALEER, KAVALERCHIK
(Belarus-Bobruisk or Minsk or ?)
SPIVAK, ROUJANSKY, RUZANSKY, BEREZA Ukraine (Pyatigore or ?)
KURCZAK Poland (Drobin)
CHAUSMER, ZAUSMER LATVIA (Riga)

PS Please contact me privately if you are interested in records I have re: CHERNIN
or KAVALERCHIK.


Belarus SIG #Belarus How to Confirm Original Name While Living in Belarus? #belarus

Deborah Chernin <dchernin@...>
 

Hello,

I am trying to confirm my ggfather's real name when he lived in Bobruisk. His name
in the US was ISIDOR CHERNIN (abt 1877 - 1959). Like many others, he is said to
have been "adopted" by another family (EPSTEIN adopted by CHERNIN, or vice versa)
in order to avoid conscription into the Czar's army. (Ironically, he later
enlisted anyway.) His immigration and naturalization records identify him as
ISIDOR CHERNIN. According to his headstone, his father was ISRAEL ZEV HALEVI
CHERNIN.

I have records >from Belarus/Minsk/Bobruisk (>from Natl Hist Archives of Belarus)
and have found a few ISRAEL or SROL CHERNINs and other similar entries that could
be him, but nothing definitive.

I have also searched the Belarus websites and, of course, found many, many entries
for names similar to ISIDOR or ISRAEL EPSTEIN. There are some that could be him,
but again, nothing that I can confirm.


Here are the few facts I know about him >from his years in or near Bobruisk:

1. He was a blacksmith in the Czar's army, where he lost his thumb.

2. He married Sarah KAVALEER or KAVALERCHIK in about 1896.

3. They had two children while in Russia - Benjamin (DOB 1898) and Sadie (DOB 1900)


4. BENJAMIN CHERNIN (DOB 1898) went to school while in Russia. He may have been
known as Norman.

5. ISIDOR CHERNIN came to US in 1903. Sarah and the 2 children arrived in 1905.

6. He had a sister or niece that also came to the US. Her name was FRADA YUDIN.


Some Questions:

a. At what age would he likely have been conscripted into the Army? and are there
records available of enlisted men?

b. Are school records available?

c. Any ideas for how to confirm if my ggf was ISIDOR CHERNIN or ISIDOR EPSTEIN?

d. Any suggestions for other ways I might be able to confirm his "real" name?

Your help would be greatly appreciated!! I've been stuck on this for years...
Many thanks!

Deborah Chernin
Oakland, CA
dchernin@earthlink.net

Looking for:
CHERNIN, TSHERNIN, TCHERNIN, TZERNIN, EPSTEIN, KAVALEER, KAVALERCHIK
(Belarus-Bobruisk or Minsk or ?)
SPIVAK, ROUJANSKY, RUZANSKY, BEREZA Ukraine (Pyatigore or ?)
KURCZAK Poland (Drobin)
CHAUSMER, ZAUSMER LATVIA (Riga)

PS Please contact me privately if you are interested in records I have re: CHERNIN
or KAVALERCHIK.


Yad Vashem and the Arolsen (resource) Files #belarus

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

Dear Lists:

At the request of Sherry Kisos, I am forwarding this very thorough
explanation of the Yad Vashem process and this summer's online
expectations.

I do not subscribe to the main JewishGen list; would someone out
there be kind enough to forward this to them?

Many thanks.

Michelle Frager NYC metro -------------------------------

Dear Michelle,

If I remember correctly, you asked how long it takes to put a page
of testimony on the Yad Vashem database and I replied to you that I
thought it was more or less immediately.

I have had to call Yad Vashem anyway (for my own research) and
clarified several points with them.

1. The amount of time it takes them to put information on the
database is between six months to a year depending upon the work
schedule and amount of work. I have used the database myself and it
is extremely powerful.

2. The entire Yad Vashem database will be on the Internet by the
end of the summer. This database includes (will include) all the
names >from pages of testimony as well as other sources (such as the
memorial books by Sarge Klarsfeld and others).

3. The Arolsen files at the moment are not on the Yad Vashem
database. They can be found only at Yad Vashem in Jerusalem and are
on microfilm. One must go personally there to look at records.
Eventually, these files will be available to the librarian at the
Yad Vashem branch in Givatayim. It will take a long time before
these files become available on the Internet.

To summarize, the Arolsen files include names of Jews and non-Jews
who were victims of the Holocaust and the list is extremely
extensive. When one requests a search at Yad Vashem, the researcher
checks through all sources (Yad Vashem database, memorial books,
Arolsen files, etc.)

Even though I subscribe to most of the SIGs, including the
jewishgen digest, I am unable to send messages because my computer
has a Hebrew interface. It would be greatly appreciated if you
could pass this message on.

Sincerely yours,
Sherry Kisos
Petach Tikvah, Israel




__________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price.
http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/


Yad Vashem and the Arolsen (resource) Files #ukraine

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

At the request of Sherry Kisos, I am forwarding this very thorough
explanation of the Yad Vashem process and this summer's online
expectations.

Many thanks.

Michelle Frager NYC metro -------------------------------


Dear Michelle,

If I remember correctly, you asked how long it takes to put a page
of testimony on the Yad Vashem database and I replied to you that I
thought it was more or less immediately.

I have had to call Yad Vashem anyway (for my own research) and
clarified several points with them.

1. The amount of time it takes them to put information on the
database is between six months to a year depending upon the work
schedule and amount of work. I have used the database myself and it
is extremely powerful.

2. The entire Yad Vashem database will be on the Internet by the
end of the summer. This database includes (will include) all the
names >from pages of testimony as well as other sources (such as the
memorial books by Sarge Klarsfeld and others).

3. The Arolsen files at the moment are not on the Yad Vashem
database. They can be found only at Yad Vashem in Jerusalem and are
on microfilm. One must go personally there to look at records.
Eventually, these files will be available to the librarian at the
Yad Vashem branch in Givatayim. It will take a long time before
these files become available on the Internet.

To summarize, the Arolsen files include names of Jews and non-Jews
who were victims of the Holocaust and the list is extremely
extensive. When one requests a search at Yad Vashem, the researcher
checks through all sources (Yad Vashem database, memorial books,
Arolsen files, etc.)

Even though I subscribe to most of the SIGs, including the
jewishgen digest, I am unable to send messages because my computer
has a Hebrew interface. It would be greatly appreciated if you
could pass this message on.

Sincerely yours,
Sherry Kisos
Petach Tikvah, Israel


Belarus SIG #Belarus Fwd: Yad Vashem and the Arolsen (resource) Files #belarus

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

Dear Lists:

At the request of Sherry Kisos, I am forwarding this very thorough
explanation of the Yad Vashem process and this summer's online
expectations.

I do not subscribe to the main JewishGen list; would someone out
there be kind enough to forward this to them?

Many thanks.

Michelle Frager NYC metro -------------------------------

Dear Michelle,

If I remember correctly, you asked how long it takes to put a page
of testimony on the Yad Vashem database and I replied to you that I
thought it was more or less immediately.

I have had to call Yad Vashem anyway (for my own research) and
clarified several points with them.

1. The amount of time it takes them to put information on the
database is between six months to a year depending upon the work
schedule and amount of work. I have used the database myself and it
is extremely powerful.

2. The entire Yad Vashem database will be on the Internet by the
end of the summer. This database includes (will include) all the
names >from pages of testimony as well as other sources (such as the
memorial books by Sarge Klarsfeld and others).

3. The Arolsen files at the moment are not on the Yad Vashem
database. They can be found only at Yad Vashem in Jerusalem and are
on microfilm. One must go personally there to look at records.
Eventually, these files will be available to the librarian at the
Yad Vashem branch in Givatayim. It will take a long time before
these files become available on the Internet.

To summarize, the Arolsen files include names of Jews and non-Jews
who were victims of the Holocaust and the list is extremely
extensive. When one requests a search at Yad Vashem, the researcher
checks through all sources (Yad Vashem database, memorial books,
Arolsen files, etc.)

Even though I subscribe to most of the SIGs, including the
jewishgen digest, I am unable to send messages because my computer
has a Hebrew interface. It would be greatly appreciated if you
could pass this message on.

Sincerely yours,
Sherry Kisos
Petach Tikvah, Israel




__________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price.
http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Fwd: Yad Vashem and the Arolsen (resource) Files #ukraine

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

At the request of Sherry Kisos, I am forwarding this very thorough
explanation of the Yad Vashem process and this summer's online
expectations.

Many thanks.

Michelle Frager NYC metro -------------------------------


Dear Michelle,

If I remember correctly, you asked how long it takes to put a page
of testimony on the Yad Vashem database and I replied to you that I
thought it was more or less immediately.

I have had to call Yad Vashem anyway (for my own research) and
clarified several points with them.

1. The amount of time it takes them to put information on the
database is between six months to a year depending upon the work
schedule and amount of work. I have used the database myself and it
is extremely powerful.

2. The entire Yad Vashem database will be on the Internet by the
end of the summer. This database includes (will include) all the
names >from pages of testimony as well as other sources (such as the
memorial books by Sarge Klarsfeld and others).

3. The Arolsen files at the moment are not on the Yad Vashem
database. They can be found only at Yad Vashem in Jerusalem and are
on microfilm. One must go personally there to look at records.
Eventually, these files will be available to the librarian at the
Yad Vashem branch in Givatayim. It will take a long time before
these files become available on the Internet.

To summarize, the Arolsen files include names of Jews and non-Jews
who were victims of the Holocaust and the list is extremely
extensive. When one requests a search at Yad Vashem, the researcher
checks through all sources (Yad Vashem database, memorial books,
Arolsen files, etc.)

Even though I subscribe to most of the SIGs, including the
jewishgen digest, I am unable to send messages because my computer
has a Hebrew interface. It would be greatly appreciated if you
could pass this message on.

Sincerely yours,
Sherry Kisos
Petach Tikvah, Israel


Re: Naming and the intention of the namer #general

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz <idayosef@...>
 

Although the naming thread has been pretty much worked out, I have a cute
story which is relevant to what Jerome wrote about our modern generation of
parents. At the bat mitsva of a girl named Jessica, I congratulated her
parents and remarked that they had given their daughter a beautiful Hebrew
name. I was met with incomprehension. Jessica a Hebrew name?
Ida

Dr. Joseph M. Schwarcz
Dr. Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Arad, Israel

-----Original Message-----
From: Jerome Seligsohn [mailto:jselig1315@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:34 PM
To: JewishGen Discussion Group
Subject: Naming and the intention of the namer

We must not presume that the parents in selcting a
name for their child are students of the origin of
names. We can only surmise that they intend to give a
name for a purpose that must remain somewhat of a
mystery to posterity. We assume that some ancestor is
being honored especially if the name designators are
avowedly concerned with tradition. If the designators
are of the orthodox persuasion we can assume that they
must meet the dictates of their community and are
fairly close to the historic name. For the rest we
must conjecture that anything is permitted, even Jezebel.
Genealogically speaking we are in a minefield.

Jerome Seligsohn
NYC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Naming and the intention of the namer #general

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz <idayosef@...>
 

Although the naming thread has been pretty much worked out, I have a cute
story which is relevant to what Jerome wrote about our modern generation of
parents. At the bat mitsva of a girl named Jessica, I congratulated her
parents and remarked that they had given their daughter a beautiful Hebrew
name. I was met with incomprehension. Jessica a Hebrew name?
Ida

Dr. Joseph M. Schwarcz
Dr. Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Arad, Israel

-----Original Message-----
From: Jerome Seligsohn [mailto:jselig1315@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:34 PM
To: JewishGen Discussion Group
Subject: Naming and the intention of the namer

We must not presume that the parents in selcting a
name for their child are students of the origin of
names. We can only surmise that they intend to give a
name for a purpose that must remain somewhat of a
mystery to posterity. We assume that some ancestor is
being honored especially if the name designators are
avowedly concerned with tradition. If the designators
are of the orthodox persuasion we can assume that they
must meet the dictates of their community and are
fairly close to the historic name. For the rest we
must conjecture that anything is permitted, even Jezebel.
Genealogically speaking we are in a minefield.

Jerome Seligsohn
NYC