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Re: "Yankel" - three questions #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

In article <40b0a1e1$0$98719$45beb828@newscene.com>,
Dale Bricker <dbricker@cyburban.com> wrote:

My great-grandfather was processed through Ellis Island with his
three older siblings in 1893. His eldest brother was identified
as "Yankel".
1) Was "Yankel" a proper first name, or was it a nickname?
It's a Yiddish diminutive of the Hebrew name Yaakov.

2) On my great grandfather's death certificate in 1902, his
place of origin was identified as Romania. The ship's
list that the four siblings' names was found on identified
their origin as Russia. Was "Yankel" a name that would
have been used in Romania?
Yes.

3) Does anyone have any ideas as to what would have been
the most likely anglicization of the name "Yankel" after
arrival in America? For example, I had a grandfather
>from Ukraine, born Yacov, who was known as "Jack" once
he'd arrived in the States.
I think Jack is the most likely for Yankel as well, although
almost anything is possible.

Robert Israel
israel@math.ubc.ca
Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1Z2


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: "Yankel" - three questions #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

In article <40b0a1e1$0$98719$45beb828@newscene.com>,
Dale Bricker <dbricker@cyburban.com> wrote:

My great-grandfather was processed through Ellis Island with his
three older siblings in 1893. His eldest brother was identified
as "Yankel".
1) Was "Yankel" a proper first name, or was it a nickname?
It's a Yiddish diminutive of the Hebrew name Yaakov.

2) On my great grandfather's death certificate in 1902, his
place of origin was identified as Romania. The ship's
list that the four siblings' names was found on identified
their origin as Russia. Was "Yankel" a name that would
have been used in Romania?
Yes.

3) Does anyone have any ideas as to what would have been
the most likely anglicization of the name "Yankel" after
arrival in America? For example, I had a grandfather
>from Ukraine, born Yacov, who was known as "Jack" once
he'd arrived in the States.
I think Jack is the most likely for Yankel as well, although
almost anything is possible.

Robert Israel
israel@math.ubc.ca
Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1Z2


Help with Russian translation needed #general

ruth.silver@...
 

Dear List,
I have posted 2 marriage certificates and a birth certificate
in Russian on the viewmate section of jewishgen

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/index.asp

The references are VM4110, VM4111 and VM112 .
Please could I have some help with the translations.
(The certificate VM111 has some addition notes in the margin
which look intriguing)

Please reply privately to
ruth.silver@dplanet.ch

Thanks
Ruth Silver
Geneva
Switzerland

Researching. ZYLBERMEHL; GOLDMAN; DYMOND; GAJERMAN;
WEINSTEIN; ABRAHAMSON; MOSCOVICH


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help with Russian translation needed #general

ruth.silver@...
 

Dear List,
I have posted 2 marriage certificates and a birth certificate
in Russian on the viewmate section of jewishgen

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/index.asp

The references are VM4110, VM4111 and VM112 .
Please could I have some help with the translations.
(The certificate VM111 has some addition notes in the margin
which look intriguing)

Please reply privately to
ruth.silver@dplanet.ch

Thanks
Ruth Silver
Geneva
Switzerland

Researching. ZYLBERMEHL; GOLDMAN; DYMOND; GAJERMAN;
WEINSTEIN; ABRAHAMSON; MOSCOVICH


Visit to Pultusk, Poland #general

Amy Fellner <amyfellner@...>
 

Dear JewishGen editor:
 
I would appreciate your posting the following inquiry
for distribution to the JewishGen listserv and also to
the Pultusk group.   Thank you!
 
My grandfather was born in Pultusk, Poland, and most
of his family was killed during the Holocaust.   I
have the opportunity to visit Pultusk next week, and
would appreciate recommendations any of you may have
as to location of the sites of Jewish interest in
Pultusk.   Also, if any of you have hired a guide in
visiting that area of Poland (60 km north of Warsaw),
I would appreciate any recommendations you may have as
to English-speaking guides.   Please respond to me
privately directly at amyfellner@yahoo.com.   Thank
you for your assistance.
 
Thank you,
Amy Fellner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Visit to Pultusk, Poland #general

Amy Fellner <amyfellner@...>
 

Dear JewishGen editor:
 
I would appreciate your posting the following inquiry
for distribution to the JewishGen listserv and also to
the Pultusk group.   Thank you!
 
My grandfather was born in Pultusk, Poland, and most
of his family was killed during the Holocaust.   I
have the opportunity to visit Pultusk next week, and
would appreciate recommendations any of you may have
as to location of the sites of Jewish interest in
Pultusk.   Also, if any of you have hired a guide in
visiting that area of Poland (60 km north of Warsaw),
I would appreciate any recommendations you may have as
to English-speaking guides.   Please respond to me
privately directly at amyfellner@yahoo.com.   Thank
you for your assistance.
 
Thank you,
Amy Fellner


Esther MINKIN #general

Denise Azbill <famaz1@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I recently received a death certificate and will for an
Esther MINKIN, of Broward county, Florida. This was not the person
I was looking for. I would be happy to send this on to someone
who is interested.

Sincerely,
Denise Weidenfeld Azbill
Las Vegas, NV


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Esther MINKIN #general

Denise Azbill <famaz1@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I recently received a death certificate and will for an
Esther MINKIN, of Broward county, Florida. This was not the person
I was looking for. I would be happy to send this on to someone
who is interested.

Sincerely,
Denise Weidenfeld Azbill
Las Vegas, NV


Searching Mr. Ira Dorf from Saratoga, California #general

Shmuel <shmuel@...>
 

Hello,
I am looking for a 'lost' cousin: Mr. Ira Dorf. Last
known address was Saratoga, California, >from 1992.

He is not registered in the White Pages at www.infospace.com.
Does anyone recognize his name?

Thanks you,
Shmuel Kehati
Ra'anana, Israel

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching Mr. Ira Dorf from Saratoga, California #general

Shmuel <shmuel@...>
 

Hello,
I am looking for a 'lost' cousin: Mr. Ira Dorf. Last
known address was Saratoga, California, >from 1992.

He is not registered in the White Pages at www.infospace.com.
Does anyone recognize his name?

Thanks you,
Shmuel Kehati
Ra'anana, Israel

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately


Re: "Yankel" - three questions #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Dale Bricker" wrote

My great-grandfather was processed through Ellis Island with his
three older siblings in 1893. His eldest brother was identified
as "Yankel".

1) Was "Yankel" a proper first name, or was it a nickname?
Yankel (Yankiel, Jankiel) became a first name in Russian Empire
This is associated with the Russian administration rules which did
not allow Jewish people to use Christians saints name.
Thus Yakov (Jakub) has been transformed to Yankiel, Moses (Moisiey) to
ugly Movsha, Joseph (Iosif, Jozef) to Osip, Isaac (Isaak) to Itsik,
Israel to Srul, Salomon to Shloyme (Szlojme).

Forbidden also were our ancient names David, Jonathan, Mattityahu
(Matvey) and so on.

3) Does anyone have any ideas as to what would have been
the most likely anglicization of the name "Yankel" after
arrival in America? For example, I had a grandfather
from Ukraine, born Yacov, who was known as "Jack" once
he'd arrived in the States.
Could be anything. No one was obliged to pick a certain prescribed name,
but people usually have kept their first name first letter as the link
to the past. Yakov (or Jakov) is associated this way with Jack.
I have noticed similar practice amongst the Chinese people that
have been adopting Chrfistian names.


Thanks very much.

Dale Bricker
Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: "Yankel" - three questions #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Dale Bricker" wrote

My great-grandfather was processed through Ellis Island with his
three older siblings in 1893. His eldest brother was identified
as "Yankel".

1) Was "Yankel" a proper first name, or was it a nickname?
Yankel (Yankiel, Jankiel) became a first name in Russian Empire
This is associated with the Russian administration rules which did
not allow Jewish people to use Christians saints name.
Thus Yakov (Jakub) has been transformed to Yankiel, Moses (Moisiey) to
ugly Movsha, Joseph (Iosif, Jozef) to Osip, Isaac (Isaak) to Itsik,
Israel to Srul, Salomon to Shloyme (Szlojme).

Forbidden also were our ancient names David, Jonathan, Mattityahu
(Matvey) and so on.

3) Does anyone have any ideas as to what would have been
the most likely anglicization of the name "Yankel" after
arrival in America? For example, I had a grandfather
from Ukraine, born Yacov, who was known as "Jack" once
he'd arrived in the States.
Could be anything. No one was obliged to pick a certain prescribed name,
but people usually have kept their first name first letter as the link
to the past. Yakov (or Jakov) is associated this way with Jack.
I have noticed similar practice amongst the Chinese people that
have been adopting Chrfistian names.


Thanks very much.

Dale Bricker
Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


Looking for PHILLIPS, Massachusetts #general

stephen field
 

I am looking for the Phillips family, Mrs Ann Phillips, Bruce,
Gene and Stephen that lived on Montebello Road, Jamaica Plain
Massachusetts during the 40's and 50.s.
I have been unable to find their addresses.
I am Stephen Field
stemarfie@yahoo.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for PHILLIPS, Massachusetts #general

stephen field
 

I am looking for the Phillips family, Mrs Ann Phillips, Bruce,
Gene and Stephen that lived on Montebello Road, Jamaica Plain
Massachusetts during the 40's and 50.s.
I have been unable to find their addresses.
I am Stephen Field
stemarfie@yahoo.com


Gertrude SPIELMAN in Brooklyn #general

David Edelman <pappapeach@...>
 

Dear Group;
I recently received a phone call >from a neighbor who is not
on-line. He is looking for a Gertrude SPIELMAN, married a
man named EDELMAN, (which is why he called me).
I just checked the JGFF and found no Edelman's researching
Spielman's, or Spielman's doing Edelman.
Just to make sure, does anyone know of a Gertrude/Gittle Spielman,
who died about 1974, that married a man last name Edelman.
She lived in Brooklyn.
Will be very happy to hear >from you, privately of course.
Thank you all very much,
David Edelman,
San Francisco.

pappapeach@comcast.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Gertrude SPIELMAN in Brooklyn #general

David Edelman <pappapeach@...>
 

Dear Group;
I recently received a phone call >from a neighbor who is not
on-line. He is looking for a Gertrude SPIELMAN, married a
man named EDELMAN, (which is why he called me).
I just checked the JGFF and found no Edelman's researching
Spielman's, or Spielman's doing Edelman.
Just to make sure, does anyone know of a Gertrude/Gittle Spielman,
who died about 1974, that married a man last name Edelman.
She lived in Brooklyn.
Will be very happy to hear >from you, privately of course.
Thank you all very much,
David Edelman,
San Francisco.

pappapeach@comcast.net


MAJERSDORF/LIPSZYC/FRENKEL/WILENBERG from Przasnysz #general

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

Josek MAJERSDORF married Marya GRYNBERG in Przasnysz in 1876.
Her parents were Moshe Nusem Herszkowicz GRYNBERG and his wife,
Ryfka (nee ZYLBERMAN).

Other MAJERSDORF births in Przasnysz include Hersz Majer (1876),
Jankel (1887) and Josif Chaim (1895) but I do not know for
certain who their parents were (although I see no other
Majersdorf record so it is likely that they are Josek and
Ryfka's children.

Two other MAJERSDORF marriages in Przasnysz include Jacheta M
(1882 to Ejzyk Lipszyc) Golda Chaia M (1883 to Srul Lejzor Frenkel )
and Ester M (1887 to Icek Majer Wilenberg )....
........again I can only surmise they were Josek M's sisters
at this point.

If this sounds familiar, please contact me privately at
meyers01@comcast.net.

Marty Meyers


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen MAJERSDORF/LIPSZYC/FRENKEL/WILENBERG from Przasnysz #general

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

Josek MAJERSDORF married Marya GRYNBERG in Przasnysz in 1876.
Her parents were Moshe Nusem Herszkowicz GRYNBERG and his wife,
Ryfka (nee ZYLBERMAN).

Other MAJERSDORF births in Przasnysz include Hersz Majer (1876),
Jankel (1887) and Josif Chaim (1895) but I do not know for
certain who their parents were (although I see no other
Majersdorf record so it is likely that they are Josek and
Ryfka's children.

Two other MAJERSDORF marriages in Przasnysz include Jacheta M
(1882 to Ejzyk Lipszyc) Golda Chaia M (1883 to Srul Lejzor Frenkel )
and Ester M (1887 to Icek Majer Wilenberg )....
........again I can only surmise they were Josek M's sisters
at this point.

If this sounds familiar, please contact me privately at
meyers01@comcast.net.

Marty Meyers


Re: drohicyn-drogichin #belarus

Florence Schumacher <florenceschumacher@...>
 

I also have found a 1912 Voter's List on the Jewishgen site for the Grodno
Gubernia, Kobrin district which includes Drohichyn on the SIG Belarus site
(http://data.jewishgen.org). It has the names of my grandfather, great
grandfather and several other relatives on it.

The Yiskor book is a great source. I found information about my
grandparents, great-grandparents, uncles and aunts as well as about the
town in general there. It is all online and translated into English. After
years of being aware of the existance of a Yiskor book for Drohichyn and not
being able to get my hands on a copy or understand it, the posting of the
translation on JewishGen was a tremendous boost to my research.

But I have not been able to find any other vital statistics records about
the town. My mother, who was born there, could not even get a birth
certificate when she left in 1929 because she claimed all the records had
been destroyed during World War 1.

Researching: HOIZMAN/GAUZMAN >from Drohicyn, Belarus; STEINBERG/SZJTEYNBERG
from Kishinev, Moldava; BROD >from Liben/Prague/Vienna; and
SHUMIACH/SHUMITCHER/SCHUMACHER >from Orsha, Belarus.


Florence Schumacher
Needham, MA
Email: florenceschumacher@comcast.net


Searching for TRESTONOVICH - TRESTYNOWICZ family members #general

hennynow
 

Necha MOED (1882 Bialystok, Lomza Gubernia - 1943 Auschwitz)
was a first cousin of my father Enoch MOED. She was married to
Yehudah TRESTONOVICH (sp?), who died in Antwerp, Belgium, before 1940.
They had seven children: Abraham, Deborah, Feigel (all Holocaust victims)
and David, Gruna, Rachel, and Suzanne.

I've lost touch with the family. As one of the MO'ED family
genealogists, I'd love to get in touch with surviving family
members, some of whom may live in the USA:

Gruna married Marcel STORM -- Rachel married NOMBERG --
Suzanne married Marcel KARP.

If these names are familiar to anyone, please contact me
privately. Many thanks.

Hag Sameach,

Henny

Henriette Moed Roth
Los Angeles, California
hennynow@pacbell.net