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Sephard Prayer Books in Ukraine #ukraine

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

Dear List:

Had I thought to check at least one or two web sources before
posting, I would have found that there is an interesting opinion
re:"Sfard" prayer books - at least in the JewishGen Discussion Group
Archives, where I should have gone first.

It seems the Chassidim used a liturgy or order of prayer different
from other Jews and >from the Lubavitch, who some posters wrote, used
the Nusach Ari. There was some thought this was to create continuity
with pre-Inquisition-Diaspora practice.

There was also some immigration into the area, Odessa, for one
example, >from Turkey, Greece and even Italy, some wrote. But they
didn't posit the idea that it was necessarily the source of the
Nusach Sfard.

This is something I intend to look into through other sources. If
anything of interest turns up, I will post as it could be suggestive
for some researchers, like myself.

My appreciation to those of you who answered my original post.


Michelle Frager, NY metro


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Sephard Prayer Books in Ukraine #ukraine

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

Dear List:

Had I thought to check at least one or two web sources before
posting, I would have found that there is an interesting opinion
re:"Sfard" prayer books - at least in the JewishGen Discussion Group
Archives, where I should have gone first.

It seems the Chassidim used a liturgy or order of prayer different
from other Jews and >from the Lubavitch, who some posters wrote, used
the Nusach Ari. There was some thought this was to create continuity
with pre-Inquisition-Diaspora practice.

There was also some immigration into the area, Odessa, for one
example, >from Turkey, Greece and even Italy, some wrote. But they
didn't posit the idea that it was necessarily the source of the
Nusach Sfard.

This is something I intend to look into through other sources. If
anything of interest turns up, I will post as it could be suggestive
for some researchers, like myself.

My appreciation to those of you who answered my original post.


Michelle Frager, NY metro


Yad Vashem online DB Info #ukraine

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

Dear List:

Following up on a previous thread, Here is Yad Vashem's information,
in response to my e-mail query:
/Schedule - up around September.
/Access - open and free.


Michelle Frager, NY Metro
Ukraine/Bess.: TREIGER, SIROTA, ZEKTSER, BRONSHTEIN, SIBELBERG
Belarus/Lith.: FRAKT, WOLFSON, LIFSCHITZ etc., PODOKSIK


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Yad Vashem online DB Info #ukraine

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

Dear List:

Following up on a previous thread, Here is Yad Vashem's information,
in response to my e-mail query:
/Schedule - up around September.
/Access - open and free.


Michelle Frager, NY Metro
Ukraine/Bess.: TREIGER, SIROTA, ZEKTSER, BRONSHTEIN, SIBELBERG
Belarus/Lith.: FRAKT, WOLFSON, LIFSCHITZ etc., PODOKSIK


VM 4149 - Female Name Bacfrah, 1871 London #general

Jennifer Broughton <jen_b@...>
 

Dear Genners

Please see the extract for my Joseph/s family in the
1871 census on View Mate - url:

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4149

The family arrived in London >from Poland (Zgierwz?) in about 1866-67
and the fourth youngest child seems to be named Bacfrah,
I wondered if anyone else had come across this name and might
know its origins. In previous censuses she became Rebecca
which was the same as her mother's name.

Thanks in advance for any help

Jennifer Broughton


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen VM 4149 - Female Name Bacfrah, 1871 London #general

Jennifer Broughton <jen_b@...>
 

Dear Genners

Please see the extract for my Joseph/s family in the
1871 census on View Mate - url:

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4149

The family arrived in London >from Poland (Zgierwz?) in about 1866-67
and the fourth youngest child seems to be named Bacfrah,
I wondered if anyone else had come across this name and might
know its origins. In previous censuses she became Rebecca
which was the same as her mother's name.

Thanks in advance for any help

Jennifer Broughton


Re: Surname puzzlement #general

Hazanjo <hazanjo@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "sandrabergman" <sandrabergman@dodo.com.au>

Whilst searching through the Ellis Island site online for Morris or Moses
Michaelovitch leaving England by sea for USA, the name Moses Mokoboitch
came
up. Could this name be for real? Could it be that an official wrote down
whatn he thought he heard or is it simply illegible handwriting? Would
be
appreciative of someone telling me if Mokoboitch is a surname.

Thank you,

Sandra Bergman
I can't tell you anything about the surname, but I've found relatives of
mine by using a questionable name to bring me to the original manifest.
There I check both the next of kin back in the place of origin as well as
the person to they will be staying with on arrival.

Hazel Sandow Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Researching: HABER - Zhurów, Galicia; STARK - Warsaw, Poland;
SADOVSKI/SADOWSKY - Belchatów & Lodz, Poland;
KANET/KANNETT/KANNATT - Czyzewo, Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Surname puzzlement #general

Hazanjo <hazanjo@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "sandrabergman" <sandrabergman@dodo.com.au>

Whilst searching through the Ellis Island site online for Morris or Moses
Michaelovitch leaving England by sea for USA, the name Moses Mokoboitch
came
up. Could this name be for real? Could it be that an official wrote down
whatn he thought he heard or is it simply illegible handwriting? Would
be
appreciative of someone telling me if Mokoboitch is a surname.

Thank you,

Sandra Bergman
I can't tell you anything about the surname, but I've found relatives of
mine by using a questionable name to bring me to the original manifest.
There I check both the next of kin back in the place of origin as well as
the person to they will be staying with on arrival.

Hazel Sandow Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Researching: HABER - Zhurów, Galicia; STARK - Warsaw, Poland;
SADOVSKI/SADOWSKY - Belchatów & Lodz, Poland;
KANET/KANNETT/KANNATT - Czyzewo, Poland


clarification of FOIA request address #general

Diane Goldman <dgoldman@...>
 

Thanks for sharing this, Hazel. But could you clarify?
(Or could someone else clarify, if they know the answer
to my question below?)

Does this refer to FOIA requests previously sent to INS?
Or is it for any genealogy-related FOIA request,
regardless of the U.S.government office involved?

--Diane
Maryland, USA


Subject: FOIA requests
From: "Hazanjo" <hazanjo@cogeco.ca>
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 16:42:29 -0400
X-Message-Number: 20

I just had a phone call >from a very helpful lady who works out of the
office
in Lee's Summit, MO. While I had her on the phone I decided to clarify
a
few things. She told me that all genealogy requests are now being
handled
at this office. Sending requests there initially could save some time.
They will also accept requests by fax. Verification of death is
required
when the birth date is less than 100 years ago, but they'll accept a
picture
of the stone as proof. I'm providing a snail mail address and the fax
number, but they request that if you fax a request, that you don't
mail it as well.

US Department of Homeland Security
PO Box 648010
Lee's Summit, MO 64064-8010
Fax: 816-350-5785
Phone: 816-350-5570

Hazel Sandow Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen clarification of FOIA request address #general

Diane Goldman <dgoldman@...>
 

Thanks for sharing this, Hazel. But could you clarify?
(Or could someone else clarify, if they know the answer
to my question below?)

Does this refer to FOIA requests previously sent to INS?
Or is it for any genealogy-related FOIA request,
regardless of the U.S.government office involved?

--Diane
Maryland, USA


Subject: FOIA requests
From: "Hazanjo" <hazanjo@cogeco.ca>
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 16:42:29 -0400
X-Message-Number: 20

I just had a phone call >from a very helpful lady who works out of the
office
in Lee's Summit, MO. While I had her on the phone I decided to clarify
a
few things. She told me that all genealogy requests are now being
handled
at this office. Sending requests there initially could save some time.
They will also accept requests by fax. Verification of death is
required
when the birth date is less than 100 years ago, but they'll accept a
picture
of the stone as proof. I'm providing a snail mail address and the fax
number, but they request that if you fax a request, that you don't
mail it as well.

US Department of Homeland Security
PO Box 648010
Lee's Summit, MO 64064-8010
Fax: 816-350-5785
Phone: 816-350-5570

Hazel Sandow Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada


Re: descendants of Philip REIFER, pharmacist #galicia

Lisa Thaler <lisathaler@...>
 

Dear Renee, Regarding your search for directories of pharmacists,
contact your state's Department of Regulation and/or the State
Archives. I had been researching the Chicago-based registered
pharmacist Leon COLLIN (ne Leiser KOLIN) (1884 Zhmerinka, Ukr.-1943
Chicago, IL, US). Our Illinois State Archives retains a "Register of
Licensed Pharmacists (1881-1952)." Leon's Register entry (1925-1927)
includes his name, place of business, age, place of birth [foreign
country noted], cause of registration [examination, etc.], date of
registration, amount paid and certificate number. All the best in your
search, Sincerely, Lisa THALER (Chicago, IL, US)
Researching... Leon COLLIN and his wife Chaya GRABOWA - Chicago; their
friends Henry and Anita HONOROFF and Eugenia SLUTZKER - Chicago; Walter
KOPEC, who purchased COLLIN's Pharmacy >from Leon's estate in 1943.

On Thursday, May 27, 2004, at 01:00 AM, JewishGen Discussion Group
digest wrote:

Subject: descendants of Philip REIFER, pharmacist
From: Renee Steinig <rsteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 11:31:31 -0400
X-Message-Number: 9

I am searching for the descendants of Philip REIFER, born 1889
in Rzeszow, then western Galicia, to Joachim (Chaim) REIFER and
Chana SALIK. He grew up in Jaroslaw and studied pharmacy in Vienna.
The Ellis Island database shows two trips to the U.S. -
in 1907 (Philipp REIFER) and in 1913 (Filippo REIFER). According to
family sources, he settled in the U.S., possibly in Brooklyn,
and was a pharmacist. He is said to have married and had children.

I have been unable to find Philip in the 1920 and 1930 federal
censuses or in the 1933-34 Brooklyn City Directory. Before I launch
an all-out search of naturalizations, vital records, etc.,
I thought I'd check with you: does the name ring a bell?

Also, I'm wondering if anyone has ever run across
professional directories of pharmacists that cover any years
between 1920 and 1950. The earliest one that I could
identify was published in the 70s.

Thanks.

Renee

Renee Steinig
RSteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us


Re: Need a NYC Vital Recs Maven #general

Sam Schleman <Samara99@...>
 

I wanted to thank all those who responded to my inquiry about a death
certificate coded in the index as "Out of City" with a certificate
number that didn't match the time of year that the death occurred.

It turns out that this applies when someone died out of the city and was
brought back to the city for burial. The "certificate number" is a code for
where the death occurred. In my case, the code "28" means that he died in
New Jersey. Other codes would designate different places. New Jersey, in
this case, would be where I would go for the actual death certificate.

Thanks for the help.

Sam


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: descendants of Philip REIFER, pharmacist #general

Lisa Thaler <lisathaler@...>
 

Dear Renee, Regarding your search for directories of pharmacists,
contact your state's Department of Regulation and/or the State
Archives. I had been researching the Chicago-based registered
pharmacist Leon COLLIN (ne Leiser KOLIN) (1884 Zhmerinka, Ukr.-1943
Chicago, IL, US). Our Illinois State Archives retains a "Register of
Licensed Pharmacists (1881-1952)." Leon's Register entry (1925-1927)
includes his name, place of business, age, place of birth [foreign
country noted], cause of registration [examination, etc.], date of
registration, amount paid and certificate number. All the best in your
search, Sincerely, Lisa THALER (Chicago, IL, US)
Researching... Leon COLLIN and his wife Chaya GRABOWA - Chicago; their
friends Henry and Anita HONOROFF and Eugenia SLUTZKER - Chicago; Walter
KOPEC, who purchased COLLIN's Pharmacy >from Leon's estate in 1943.

On Thursday, May 27, 2004, at 01:00 AM, JewishGen Discussion Group
digest wrote:

Subject: descendants of Philip REIFER, pharmacist
From: Renee Steinig <rsteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 11:31:31 -0400
X-Message-Number: 9

I am searching for the descendants of Philip REIFER, born 1889
in Rzeszow, then western Galicia, to Joachim (Chaim) REIFER and
Chana SALIK. He grew up in Jaroslaw and studied pharmacy in Vienna.
The Ellis Island database shows two trips to the U.S. -
in 1907 (Philipp REIFER) and in 1913 (Filippo REIFER). According to
family sources, he settled in the U.S., possibly in Brooklyn,
and was a pharmacist. He is said to have married and had children.

I have been unable to find Philip in the 1920 and 1930 federal
censuses or in the 1933-34 Brooklyn City Directory. Before I launch
an all-out search of naturalizations, vital records, etc.,
I thought I'd check with you: does the name ring a bell?

Also, I'm wondering if anyone has ever run across
professional directories of pharmacists that cover any years
between 1920 and 1950. The earliest one that I could
identify was published in the 70s.

Thanks.

Renee

Renee Steinig
RSteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Need a NYC Vital Recs Maven #general

Sam Schleman <Samara99@...>
 

I wanted to thank all those who responded to my inquiry about a death
certificate coded in the index as "Out of City" with a certificate
number that didn't match the time of year that the death occurred.

It turns out that this applies when someone died out of the city and was
brought back to the city for burial. The "certificate number" is a code for
where the death occurred. In my case, the code "28" means that he died in
New Jersey. Other codes would designate different places. New Jersey, in
this case, would be where I would go for the actual death certificate.

Thanks for the help.

Sam


Louis BERMAN: Discrepancies betwen documents #general

Yehuda Berman <ybberman@...>
 

Shalom! I just received fuzzy photocopies of the Declaration of Intention
of my father, Louis BERMAN, to become a U.S. citizen (dated 1922) and of
his Petition for Naturalization (dated 1929). Both documents state that he
arrived in the U.S. in 1909 but the first says he arrived February 25 and
the second that he arrived March 21. The first document, filed in New York,
states that he emigrated >from Halifax [Canada], having previously resided in
England, and that he entered at the port of Chicago, having gotten there by
railroad. The second document, filed in Detroit, states that he arrived
from Montreal, Canada and entered at the port of Xxx, Michigan, having
arrived on the vessel C.F. K[?]y.

The name of the U.S. port in the Petition for Naturalization looks like
“See” or “Soo”. I checked an atlas of Michigan – there don’t seem to be
any ports that fit. It does not seem to be an abbreviation for Detroit
since the two small letters are identical in size and shape.

Contradicting the above documents, the Ellis Island website indicates that a
Louis Berman first arrived June 29, 1906, >from England, on the steamship
Baltic. There is no doubt that the particular Louis Berman in question is
my father. Which means that he entered the U.S., left at some point, and
then re-entered by way of Canada.

My questions: What ports in Michigan were used as points of entry? What
explanations could there be for the discrepancies on the Canadian port of
entry (Halifax versus Montreal) and on the American port of entry (Chicago
versus someplace in Michigan)? Lapses of memory? Could anybody suggest
what “vessel” (or railroad?) could C.F. Ky possibly be? And can one check
when a person left the United States, or when he entered Canada (from
England?)?

Thank you in advance for your suggestions and advice.
Yehuda Berman,
Efrat, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Louis BERMAN: Discrepancies betwen documents #general

Yehuda Berman <ybberman@...>
 

Shalom! I just received fuzzy photocopies of the Declaration of Intention
of my father, Louis BERMAN, to become a U.S. citizen (dated 1922) and of
his Petition for Naturalization (dated 1929). Both documents state that he
arrived in the U.S. in 1909 but the first says he arrived February 25 and
the second that he arrived March 21. The first document, filed in New York,
states that he emigrated >from Halifax [Canada], having previously resided in
England, and that he entered at the port of Chicago, having gotten there by
railroad. The second document, filed in Detroit, states that he arrived
from Montreal, Canada and entered at the port of Xxx, Michigan, having
arrived on the vessel C.F. K[?]y.

The name of the U.S. port in the Petition for Naturalization looks like
“See” or “Soo”. I checked an atlas of Michigan – there don’t seem to be
any ports that fit. It does not seem to be an abbreviation for Detroit
since the two small letters are identical in size and shape.

Contradicting the above documents, the Ellis Island website indicates that a
Louis Berman first arrived June 29, 1906, >from England, on the steamship
Baltic. There is no doubt that the particular Louis Berman in question is
my father. Which means that he entered the U.S., left at some point, and
then re-entered by way of Canada.

My questions: What ports in Michigan were used as points of entry? What
explanations could there be for the discrepancies on the Canadian port of
entry (Halifax versus Montreal) and on the American port of entry (Chicago
versus someplace in Michigan)? Lapses of memory? Could anybody suggest
what “vessel” (or railroad?) could C.F. Ky possibly be? And can one check
when a person left the United States, or when he entered Canada (from
England?)?

Thank you in advance for your suggestions and advice.
Yehuda Berman,
Efrat, Israel


"Bralou, Russia" #general

Robert & Ena Jacobs <enabob@...>
 

Hello JewishGenners:
Am seeking the location of a town/shtetl which is stated as
"Bralou, Russia" on EIDB document I have retrieved.
I have been unable to find it on historical maps, etc.,
having searched the Ukraine, Russia, Poland unsuccessfully.

Any direction to this town/shtetl willl be appreciated.
Please reply privately.
Thank you.
Ena JACOBS, nee SCHWALBE/SELBY -
Born in London, now in California, U.S.
Researching: FESTENSTEIN - Lithuania/Russia/Ukraine/ZA/UK/US
SCHWALBE - Kalisz,Poland/ZA/UK/US
SEGAL/LEVY - Lithuania/ZA/UK/US
KAZAN - Lithuania/Ukraine/UK
DAVIDOVNA - Lithuania/UK & elsewhere

EnaBob@worldnet.att.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen "Bralou, Russia" #general

Robert & Ena Jacobs <enabob@...>
 

Hello JewishGenners:
Am seeking the location of a town/shtetl which is stated as
"Bralou, Russia" on EIDB document I have retrieved.
I have been unable to find it on historical maps, etc.,
having searched the Ukraine, Russia, Poland unsuccessfully.

Any direction to this town/shtetl willl be appreciated.
Please reply privately.
Thank you.
Ena JACOBS, nee SCHWALBE/SELBY -
Born in London, now in California, U.S.
Researching: FESTENSTEIN - Lithuania/Russia/Ukraine/ZA/UK/US
SCHWALBE - Kalisz,Poland/ZA/UK/US
SEGAL/LEVY - Lithuania/ZA/UK/US
KAZAN - Lithuania/Ukraine/UK
DAVIDOVNA - Lithuania/UK & elsewhere

EnaBob@worldnet.att.net


descendants of Philip REIFER, pharmacist #galicia

Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
 

I am searching for the descendants of Philip REIFER, born 1889 in Rzeszow to
Joachim (Chaim) REIFER and Chana SALIK. He grew up in Jaroslaw and studied
pharmacy in Vienna. The Ellis Island database shows two trips to the U.S. -
in 1907 (Philipp REIFER) and in 1913 (Filippo REIFER). According to family
sources, he settled in the U.S., possibly in Brooklyn, and was a pharmacist.
He is said to have married and had children.

I have been unable to find Philip in the 1920 and 1930 federal censuses or
in the 1933-34 Brooklyn City Directory. Before I launch an all-out search of
naturalizations, vital records, etc., I thought I'd check with you: does the
name ring a bell?

Also, I'm wondering if anyone has ever run across professional directories
of pharmacists that cover any years between 1920 and 1950. The earliest one
that I could identify was published in the 70s.

Thanks.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills, NY, USA
RSteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us


MAGEN and ZEIDMAN #general

SelmaN@...
 

Hello all, I'm looking for Dale Zeidman (researcher #57433)
who is researching these names. His/her email address is incorrect
on JGFF. Does anyone know how I can contact him/her. Thank you!
Selma

Selma Neubauer
Jenkintown, PA USA
(outside of Philadelphia)
SelmaN@aol.com
Researching: WAGMAN, PEPPER, GALOON, SCHMOISH, DEUTSCH, ZUCK (Kolki,
Turiysk, Krichilsk, Olyka, Ludmir - Volhynia Gubernia); NEUBAUER, BERGER
(Radziechowie/Radekhov - Galicia); HOROWITZ (Oshmyany - Belarus);
SINGER, NEWMAN (possibly Kishinev); BRODSKY (possibly Tirashpol)

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