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Tolochin, Moghilev Gubernia- Names #belarus

Gail Haymovitz <ghaymo@...>
 

Dear Genners:
The following are names of pre-WWII Jews >from Tolochin, Belarus -list made
by Irina Pikulik, Director of the History Museum, Tolochin and given to me
on a visit there in June. (then translated >from the Russian)

Krivoshei
Boroda
Gilman
Bolotini
Klepper
Kazhgan
Kogan
Katz
Blahman
Lutchsteini
Klebanovi
Alshitz
Alkon
Asiburgi
Alshulia
Shparberg
Gershonsk
Levin
Livshitz
Abulakini
Golobini
Slobodkin
Davidorskii
Kusin
Feiger
Krasnoshzliokin
Kontarovich
Bashan
Rozini
Portnavi
Rahlin
Plotkin
Tzrin
Ermanok
Maneirch
Mendelker
Kushini
Gumari
Svistunovi
Sirotkin
Shtafmeister
Bzharkerkina
Loscher
Kapelarski
Klubman
Berenstein
Solovei
Plavnik
Kamarnik
Genzel
Storchin
Abrutini
Tolban
Serkina
Buz
Rabchina
Shlav
Bihovkii
Shpitalnit (doctor)
Shurfel
Shur
Merlis
Margolini
Gruzik

Searching: GORDON, KUNIN -Krasne; GUZINSKY-Slobodka; PARETSKY-Tolochin

Gail Gordon Haymovitz
North Palm Beach, FL (Formerly Stamford, CT)
ghaymo@...


Belarus SIG #Belarus Tolochin, Moghilev Gubernia- Names #belarus

Gail Haymovitz <ghaymo@...>
 

Dear Genners:
The following are names of pre-WWII Jews >from Tolochin, Belarus -list made
by Irina Pikulik, Director of the History Museum, Tolochin and given to me
on a visit there in June. (then translated >from the Russian)

Krivoshei
Boroda
Gilman
Bolotini
Klepper
Kazhgan
Kogan
Katz
Blahman
Lutchsteini
Klebanovi
Alshitz
Alkon
Asiburgi
Alshulia
Shparberg
Gershonsk
Levin
Livshitz
Abulakini
Golobini
Slobodkin
Davidorskii
Kusin
Feiger
Krasnoshzliokin
Kontarovich
Bashan
Rozini
Portnavi
Rahlin
Plotkin
Tzrin
Ermanok
Maneirch
Mendelker
Kushini
Gumari
Svistunovi
Sirotkin
Shtafmeister
Bzharkerkina
Loscher
Kapelarski
Klubman
Berenstein
Solovei
Plavnik
Kamarnik
Genzel
Storchin
Abrutini
Tolban
Serkina
Buz
Rabchina
Shlav
Bihovkii
Shpitalnit (doctor)
Shurfel
Shur
Merlis
Margolini
Gruzik

Searching: GORDON, KUNIN -Krasne; GUZINSKY-Slobodka; PARETSKY-Tolochin

Gail Gordon Haymovitz
North Palm Beach, FL (Formerly Stamford, CT)
ghaymo@...


Re: Max FINKELSTEIN b. abt 1853 Poland d. 1937 CA, USA #general

Adelle Gloger
 

Julia VanZandt asked:

My questions: would it be possible or likely for an abandoned woman to
claim to be a widow when she was actually abandoned?
There is a situation in my family where the husband filed for divorce in 1933,
and the divorce was granted in 1934. He remarried and had other children.

He died in 1943. The first wife died in 1975. Her death notice stated she was
the widow of the late _________. Her death certificate listed her as a widow.
She never remarried.

The issue here was that obviously the first wife never accepted being
divorced.

In the case that Julia presents about the wife being abandoned, perhaps she
was able to "save face" be saying she was abandoned rather than admit her
husband had divorced her. That would accound for her "widow" status.

Julia might contact the Probate Court where these people lived and verify the
divorce as I did in my family.

Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Shaker Hts., Ohio
agloger@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Max FINKELSTEIN b. abt 1853 Poland d. 1937 CA, USA #general

Adelle Gloger
 

Julia VanZandt asked:

My questions: would it be possible or likely for an abandoned woman to
claim to be a widow when she was actually abandoned?
There is a situation in my family where the husband filed for divorce in 1933,
and the divorce was granted in 1934. He remarried and had other children.

He died in 1943. The first wife died in 1975. Her death notice stated she was
the widow of the late _________. Her death certificate listed her as a widow.
She never remarried.

The issue here was that obviously the first wife never accepted being
divorced.

In the case that Julia presents about the wife being abandoned, perhaps she
was able to "save face" be saying she was abandoned rather than admit her
husband had divorced her. That would accound for her "widow" status.

Julia might contact the Probate Court where these people lived and verify the
divorce as I did in my family.

Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Shaker Hts., Ohio
agloger@...


Re: SSDI erroneous information, what to do next ? #general

Adelle Gloger
 

If the woman lived in Florida for any length of time, perhaps a death notice or
obituary appeared in a newspaper there.

The SSDI lists the state in which the SS# was issued. Perhaps she died or was
buried in that state. That would be a starting point. If she was buried in
here "home" state then a burial permit would have been issued. That will tell
where she died.


Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Shaker Hts., Ohio
agloger@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: SSDI erroneous information, what to do next ? #general

Adelle Gloger
 

If the woman lived in Florida for any length of time, perhaps a death notice or
obituary appeared in a newspaper there.

The SSDI lists the state in which the SS# was issued. Perhaps she died or was
buried in that state. That would be a starting point. If she was buried in
here "home" state then a burial permit would have been issued. That will tell
where she died.


Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Shaker Hts., Ohio
agloger@...


Wedding reception confusion #general

Fran Segall <FranSegall@...>
 

My parents Ketubbah says that they were married at Hopkinson Manor on
Hopkinson Ave in Brooklyn, NY (12 Feb 1939). The invitation to the
reception says the same. Until recently, that was all I had. I
recently got a copy of the actual invitation. It is a standard
invitation but, to my surprise, it invites everyone to their marriage at
Little Oriental Restaurant on Pitkin Ave in Brooklyn. That sounds more
to me like where a reception would be held than the wedding. Somehow I
can't imagine my parents having been married in a Chinese restaurant!
I'm confused. Anyone know anything about these places or why the
wedding invitation might say Little Oriental, while the Ketubbah *and*
reception invitation say Hopkinson Manor?

Fran Segall
FranSegall@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Wedding reception confusion #general

Fran Segall <FranSegall@...>
 

My parents Ketubbah says that they were married at Hopkinson Manor on
Hopkinson Ave in Brooklyn, NY (12 Feb 1939). The invitation to the
reception says the same. Until recently, that was all I had. I
recently got a copy of the actual invitation. It is a standard
invitation but, to my surprise, it invites everyone to their marriage at
Little Oriental Restaurant on Pitkin Ave in Brooklyn. That sounds more
to me like where a reception would be held than the wedding. Somehow I
can't imagine my parents having been married in a Chinese restaurant!
I'm confused. Anyone know anything about these places or why the
wedding invitation might say Little Oriental, while the Ketubbah *and*
reception invitation say Hopkinson Manor?

Fran Segall
FranSegall@...


Moshie and Ida ZIONTZ #general

Albert Singer <al2chris@...>
 

I am seeking any information of the european roots of my grandparents Moshie
(Morris) and Ida ZIONTZ(SEIDMAN) who came >from Grodna (Kamenetz) formerly
Brest-Litov around 1897-9 The eventually settled in Brooklyn New York.

Albert Singer
Schenectady NY
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Moshie and Ida ZIONTZ #general

Albert Singer <al2chris@...>
 

I am seeking any information of the european roots of my grandparents Moshie
(Morris) and Ida ZIONTZ(SEIDMAN) who came >from Grodna (Kamenetz) formerly
Brest-Litov around 1897-9 The eventually settled in Brooklyn New York.

Albert Singer
Schenectady NY
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Re: Original copies of Polish birth certificates. Are they availabe? #general

Gershon bi-Kroke <gershon_gp@...>
 

Are the original copies of Polish birth certificates
available? I recieved typed certificates on new forms.
I am seeking the signatures of my Grandparents from
Warka Poland on their childrens birth certificates.
Thank you,
Marilyn Hoffman
Dear Marilyn,

records "younger" than 100 years are kept and handled by the Urzad Stanu
Cywilnego (Marital Status Office) and being a state institution for
marital status data, they issue only excerpts >from original documents
but not photocopies of the original documents.
Copies of the original ones are available only >from the State Archives -
those that are already 100 years old and older.

With best regards,

--
G. Gembala
Krakow, Poland

Researching GLEICH, PILLERSDORF, KLETZE,
ESKREIS, JANCZER (Galicia), SIMSON (U.S.)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Original copies of Polish birth certificates. Are they availabe? #general

Gershon bi-Kroke <gershon_gp@...>
 

Are the original copies of Polish birth certificates
available? I recieved typed certificates on new forms.
I am seeking the signatures of my Grandparents from
Warka Poland on their childrens birth certificates.
Thank you,
Marilyn Hoffman
Dear Marilyn,

records "younger" than 100 years are kept and handled by the Urzad Stanu
Cywilnego (Marital Status Office) and being a state institution for
marital status data, they issue only excerpts >from original documents
but not photocopies of the original documents.
Copies of the original ones are available only >from the State Archives -
those that are already 100 years old and older.

With best regards,

--
G. Gembala
Krakow, Poland

Researching GLEICH, PILLERSDORF, KLETZE,
ESKREIS, JANCZER (Galicia), SIMSON (U.S.)


Zhitomir area census puzzles #general

Pavel Bernshtam <pavelb@...>
 

I just received >from Zhitomir archive census and birth records on
KELMAN surname >from Chervonoe shtetl. These records are written by
terrible handwriting, and sometimes are a little puzzle.

Let's start >from the first avaiable census: Revizskaya Skazka 1816.
We see here following data

Ios Zelmanovich KELMAN polyak - [age in 1811 - was ommited], [age in
1816 - 36]

My questions:
What means "polyak" (the first letter seems to be small!)?
Is is the second part of double surname? Or nickname? Or
it means that he came >from Poland ("polyak" in Russian means polish man)
What means "was ommited"? I saw yet people in this census with the same
label.
How it happens that he was ommited, but his children were recorder???

Next census (Revizskaya SKazka 1834) only adds puzzles:

Ios Zelmanovich KELMAN POLYAK [age in 1816 - 36 ] [age in 1834 - 54]

After 16 years we see the same man with a different family !!!
There is other name of his wife as well other names for children!
POLYAK already is written with a capital letter, as part of surname.

And where are his children >from previous census?

They are here, with their own families, but 2 >from them with surname POLYAK!!!
And one of them with surname KELMAN!

My question:
do you know same cases when one of children took one part of the surname,
while other took the another part.
Do you know reasons for this?

In 1850 census there are no puzzles and we see here the same family of
Leib KELMAN, but in the birth records we see the next puzzle:
in 1857 in the family of Gersh KELMAN, the son of Lejb was born a boy
Ios Shmul. We see here that the mother is recorder as Gudel Rukodel'nik.

My question:
What here means "Rukodel'nik"? Is it her original surname? Occupation
("rukodel'nik" in russian means needlewoman)? nickname?

Thank you!

P.S. If somebody is interesting in the whole records about KELMANs
that I receieved, tell me.
P.P.S. Also I have received records about KANTORs >from Novograd
Volynsk uyezd >from 1850 census. Unfortunatly there is the only source
of information about Novograd Volynsk uyezd.
No any other census or birth records were survived

Pavel Bernshtam
------------------
Searching for:

ITKIN - Kolyshki, Vitebsk uyead, Vitebsk gubernia; Kharkov,
BENIOMENSON - Bocheikovo, Lepel uyezd, Kharkov,
BERNSHTAM - Akimovka (Melitopol oblast), Melitopol, ALTSHULER -
Priazovskoe (Pokrovka)(Melitopol oblast) , Melitopol, Chausy (Mogilev gubernia)
KANTOR - Polonnoe (Volyn gubernia), Baranovka (Volyn gubernia), Zhitomir,
LAMDAN, LAMDIN - Mlinov
ZHURAHOV, ZURAHOV - Chervonnoe (Zhitomir uyezd), Verbovo (Skvir uyezd) , Zhitomir,
KELMAN - Chervonnoe (Zhitomir uyezd), Zhitomir


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Zhitomir area census puzzles #general

Pavel Bernshtam <pavelb@...>
 

I just received >from Zhitomir archive census and birth records on
KELMAN surname >from Chervonoe shtetl. These records are written by
terrible handwriting, and sometimes are a little puzzle.

Let's start >from the first avaiable census: Revizskaya Skazka 1816.
We see here following data

Ios Zelmanovich KELMAN polyak - [age in 1811 - was ommited], [age in
1816 - 36]

My questions:
What means "polyak" (the first letter seems to be small!)?
Is is the second part of double surname? Or nickname? Or
it means that he came >from Poland ("polyak" in Russian means polish man)
What means "was ommited"? I saw yet people in this census with the same
label.
How it happens that he was ommited, but his children were recorder???

Next census (Revizskaya SKazka 1834) only adds puzzles:

Ios Zelmanovich KELMAN POLYAK [age in 1816 - 36 ] [age in 1834 - 54]

After 16 years we see the same man with a different family !!!
There is other name of his wife as well other names for children!
POLYAK already is written with a capital letter, as part of surname.

And where are his children >from previous census?

They are here, with their own families, but 2 >from them with surname POLYAK!!!
And one of them with surname KELMAN!

My question:
do you know same cases when one of children took one part of the surname,
while other took the another part.
Do you know reasons for this?

In 1850 census there are no puzzles and we see here the same family of
Leib KELMAN, but in the birth records we see the next puzzle:
in 1857 in the family of Gersh KELMAN, the son of Lejb was born a boy
Ios Shmul. We see here that the mother is recorder as Gudel Rukodel'nik.

My question:
What here means "Rukodel'nik"? Is it her original surname? Occupation
("rukodel'nik" in russian means needlewoman)? nickname?

Thank you!

P.S. If somebody is interesting in the whole records about KELMANs
that I receieved, tell me.
P.P.S. Also I have received records about KANTORs >from Novograd
Volynsk uyezd >from 1850 census. Unfortunatly there is the only source
of information about Novograd Volynsk uyezd.
No any other census or birth records were survived

Pavel Bernshtam
------------------
Searching for:

ITKIN - Kolyshki, Vitebsk uyead, Vitebsk gubernia; Kharkov,
BENIOMENSON - Bocheikovo, Lepel uyezd, Kharkov,
BERNSHTAM - Akimovka (Melitopol oblast), Melitopol, ALTSHULER -
Priazovskoe (Pokrovka)(Melitopol oblast) , Melitopol, Chausy (Mogilev gubernia)
KANTOR - Polonnoe (Volyn gubernia), Baranovka (Volyn gubernia), Zhitomir,
LAMDAN, LAMDIN - Mlinov
ZHURAHOV, ZURAHOV - Chervonnoe (Zhitomir uyezd), Verbovo (Skvir uyezd) , Zhitomir,
KELMAN - Chervonnoe (Zhitomir uyezd), Zhitomir


Genealogy class online - Jewish Internet Research #general

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Have you tried to access relevant online sources for your Jewish genealogy
research questions?
Would you like to understand how search engines work and how best to
formulate searches to get the results you need and want?
Do you want to know what is out there and how to access it?
Would you like to become a more efficient online researcher?

Genners who answer "yes" to these questions may be interested in a four-week
Jewish Internet Research course, with instructors Micha Reisel and Schelly
Talalay Dardashti, beginning August 4, on www.myfamily.com.
The class provides eight lessons, uploaded two each week, two weekly online
chats for students and instructors to interact, and free access to Ancestry
databases during the class. Class is fee-based.
Students already registered are based in the Canary Islands, Europe, America
and elsewhere.

In May, the initial course, Beginning Jewish Genealogy, also involved
students >from around the world (Australia, Austria, UK, France, US etc. We
were happy to meet some of our online students in person at the Jerusalem
conference.

"Beginning Jewish Genealogy" will be repeated beginning October 7.

For complete information on the Jewish Internet Research class, click on
http://tinyurl.com/446s6 or go to www.myfamily.com, scroll down on the right
side to genealogy courses.

Micha Reisel
micha@...

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
schelly@...
schelly@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Genealogy class online - Jewish Internet Research #general

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Have you tried to access relevant online sources for your Jewish genealogy
research questions?
Would you like to understand how search engines work and how best to
formulate searches to get the results you need and want?
Do you want to know what is out there and how to access it?
Would you like to become a more efficient online researcher?

Genners who answer "yes" to these questions may be interested in a four-week
Jewish Internet Research course, with instructors Micha Reisel and Schelly
Talalay Dardashti, beginning August 4, on www.myfamily.com.
The class provides eight lessons, uploaded two each week, two weekly online
chats for students and instructors to interact, and free access to Ancestry
databases during the class. Class is fee-based.
Students already registered are based in the Canary Islands, Europe, America
and elsewhere.

In May, the initial course, Beginning Jewish Genealogy, also involved
students >from around the world (Australia, Austria, UK, France, US etc. We
were happy to meet some of our online students in person at the Jerusalem
conference.

"Beginning Jewish Genealogy" will be repeated beginning October 7.

For complete information on the Jewish Internet Research class, click on
http://tinyurl.com/446s6 or go to www.myfamily.com, scroll down on the right
side to genealogy courses.

Micha Reisel
micha@...

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
schelly@...
schelly@...


NY Times article on genealogy & genetics #general

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Dear Genners,

For those interested in the ***non-technical*** aspects and implications of
genealogy and genetics, this very interesting article in today's (July 31)
New York Times discusses the importance of a 1.6 million person Mormon
genealogical database in Utah in tracing genetics, as well as the emergence
of Utah as a base for genetics-focused companies.
http://tinyurl.com/5bydz

Headline: By accident, Utah is proving an ideal genetics laboratory

The story mentions Dr. Mark Skolnick of Myriad Genetic Inc., one of the
biggest companies in the new genetics corridor near the University of Utah.
He was a professor and a pioneer in the discovery of the breast cancer gene
marker.
Also referenced: Scott R. Woodward, non-profit Sorenson Molecular Genealogy
Foundation's chief scientist. His group is compiling a global genetic
database to assist people in finding roots, with the aim of having DNA
samples of 100,000 people within a few years, with a Western European focus;
some 40,000 samples are available now.
When the global database is completed, a person should be able to walk into
an office, provide a DNA sample, and receive a report specifying what
place - perhaps even the town or county, if not a region - the person's
genes are most likely from.

Enjoy the read.

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
schelly@...

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NY Times article on genealogy & genetics #general

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Dear Genners,

For those interested in the ***non-technical*** aspects and implications of
genealogy and genetics, this very interesting article in today's (July 31)
New York Times discusses the importance of a 1.6 million person Mormon
genealogical database in Utah in tracing genetics, as well as the emergence
of Utah as a base for genetics-focused companies.
http://tinyurl.com/5bydz

Headline: By accident, Utah is proving an ideal genetics laboratory

The story mentions Dr. Mark Skolnick of Myriad Genetic Inc., one of the
biggest companies in the new genetics corridor near the University of Utah.
He was a professor and a pioneer in the discovery of the breast cancer gene
marker.
Also referenced: Scott R. Woodward, non-profit Sorenson Molecular Genealogy
Foundation's chief scientist. His group is compiling a global genetic
database to assist people in finding roots, with the aim of having DNA
samples of 100,000 people within a few years, with a Western European focus;
some 40,000 samples are available now.
When the global database is completed, a person should be able to walk into
an office, provide a DNA sample, and receive a report specifying what
place - perhaps even the town or county, if not a region - the person's
genes are most likely from.

Enjoy the read.

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
schelly@...

MODERATOR NOTE: The URL provided in the message will take you to page #2 o the article.


Re: SSDI erroneous information, what to do next ? #general

Dolph Klein <kledolph@...>
 

Shalom Or,

You are assuming wrongly that your relative died in Florida. The SSDI
listings of "Last Residence" and "Last Benefit" merely indicate that your
relative resided in Florida at the time of death, but she may well have
died in another State while on vacation, on business, etc. The death
certificate would then be submitted by the funeral home in the State where
the event occurred. At the same time, the funeral home would also notify
Social Security. In both cases, the name of the deceased and her Florida
address would appear on the respective documents. A member of our family
was killed in an accident in Pennsylvania and his body was shipped back to
New York for burial. The death certificate was filed in Pennsylvania that
indicated the location where the death occurred, but also included the last
New York residence of the deceased. Hence, the SSDI has New York as the
Last Residence with no further indication that the person died in Pennsylvania.

Three suggestions: Contact a close relative of the deceased who might know
the State where she died, or failing that, contact the cemeteries near her
last residence. They may have records that will help lead you to the
information you are seeking. There is also the possibility as indicated
above that the remains of the deceased was shipped to yet another State
where her spouse (if he died previously) or a prepaid plot for the final
resting place is located near where they used to live in younger days.

Dolph Klein
Chapel Hill, NC, USA

Shalom,
I tried to obtain a death certificate of a supposedly
relative of mine. The SSDI (in more than one website)
mentioned that the woman died in Florida in 1991. I
ordered the death certificate >from Florida's State
Office of Vital Statistics and since there was only
one woman by that name who died in Florida in 1991 I
didn't write the SS# in the order form. (wrong, I
know).
To my utter surprise and disappointment the death
certificate that came was of another woman, by the
same name but with a different SS# and with a birth
date which was different than the one mentioned in the
SSDI.
So far Florida's State Office of Vital Statistics were
extremely nice and cooperative and they wrote back
that the death certificate of my relative who had the
SS# which appeared in the SSDI cannot be found in
Florida.
Can someone tell me what to do next :
Whom should I apply to find out where can the death
certificate or my relative, the one appearing in the
SSDI, be found ?
[And as a matter of interest : when searching the SSDI
for the SS# of that woman - not my relative- the
result is of her husband only. This was explained by
the fact that since she was a housewife she had her
husband's SS#. Furthermore, she herself cannot be
found in the SSDI when searching by her name and birth
date.]

Every suggestion will be highly appreciated
Thanking you in advance
Or Shani
n. Haifa,Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: SSDI erroneous information, what to do next ? #general

Dolph Klein <kledolph@...>
 

Shalom Or,

You are assuming wrongly that your relative died in Florida. The SSDI
listings of "Last Residence" and "Last Benefit" merely indicate that your
relative resided in Florida at the time of death, but she may well have
died in another State while on vacation, on business, etc. The death
certificate would then be submitted by the funeral home in the State where
the event occurred. At the same time, the funeral home would also notify
Social Security. In both cases, the name of the deceased and her Florida
address would appear on the respective documents. A member of our family
was killed in an accident in Pennsylvania and his body was shipped back to
New York for burial. The death certificate was filed in Pennsylvania that
indicated the location where the death occurred, but also included the last
New York residence of the deceased. Hence, the SSDI has New York as the
Last Residence with no further indication that the person died in Pennsylvania.

Three suggestions: Contact a close relative of the deceased who might know
the State where she died, or failing that, contact the cemeteries near her
last residence. They may have records that will help lead you to the
information you are seeking. There is also the possibility as indicated
above that the remains of the deceased was shipped to yet another State
where her spouse (if he died previously) or a prepaid plot for the final
resting place is located near where they used to live in younger days.

Dolph Klein
Chapel Hill, NC, USA

Shalom,
I tried to obtain a death certificate of a supposedly
relative of mine. The SSDI (in more than one website)
mentioned that the woman died in Florida in 1991. I
ordered the death certificate >from Florida's State
Office of Vital Statistics and since there was only
one woman by that name who died in Florida in 1991 I
didn't write the SS# in the order form. (wrong, I
know).
To my utter surprise and disappointment the death
certificate that came was of another woman, by the
same name but with a different SS# and with a birth
date which was different than the one mentioned in the
SSDI.
So far Florida's State Office of Vital Statistics were
extremely nice and cooperative and they wrote back
that the death certificate of my relative who had the
SS# which appeared in the SSDI cannot be found in
Florida.
Can someone tell me what to do next :
Whom should I apply to find out where can the death
certificate or my relative, the one appearing in the
SSDI, be found ?
[And as a matter of interest : when searching the SSDI
for the SS# of that woman - not my relative- the
result is of her husband only. This was explained by
the fact that since she was a housewife she had her
husband's SS#. Furthermore, she herself cannot be
found in the SSDI when searching by her name and birth
date.]

Every suggestion will be highly appreciated
Thanking you in advance
Or Shani
n. Haifa,Israel