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More family names: Vilnius to Montreal to ??? #general

Rammsm
 

As a result of a family reunion I have additional names that I am researching.
Related to Rachel MONTE(FELESCO)who was married to Nathan Weinman: CHASKELSON,
CHASE, NADLER; FINEGOLD/FEINGOLD, SINGER, MARDER, WEINSTEIN; FINEBERG/FEINBERG,
DICKSTEIN; POPKIN. Rachel's parents were Isaac and Elke MONTEFELESCO. Elke was
a midwife in Vilna.

Related to Nathan WINEMAN/WINEMAN: KORT, GOLDBERG, RADIN, SKLAR. Nathan's parents
were Max Harry and Freida VINERMANn.

These families all originated in Vilnius, some moved to Montreal. Many later
moved to Detroit, Michigan in early 1900s, other remained in Canada. It is
believed that some may also have settled in South America.

Thank you for any help you might provide.

Ruth Moltz
rammsm@aol.com
Michigan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen More family names: Vilnius to Montreal to ??? #general

Rammsm
 

As a result of a family reunion I have additional names that I am researching.
Related to Rachel MONTE(FELESCO)who was married to Nathan Weinman: CHASKELSON,
CHASE, NADLER; FINEGOLD/FEINGOLD, SINGER, MARDER, WEINSTEIN; FINEBERG/FEINBERG,
DICKSTEIN; POPKIN. Rachel's parents were Isaac and Elke MONTEFELESCO. Elke was
a midwife in Vilna.

Related to Nathan WINEMAN/WINEMAN: KORT, GOLDBERG, RADIN, SKLAR. Nathan's parents
were Max Harry and Freida VINERMANn.

These families all originated in Vilnius, some moved to Montreal. Many later
moved to Detroit, Michigan in early 1900s, other remained in Canada. It is
believed that some may also have settled in South America.

Thank you for any help you might provide.

Ruth Moltz
rammsm@aol.com
Michigan


Thanks for advice #general

barbara
 

Thank you all who gave me useful advice about getting the death and birth
certificates for my father >from NY. I tracked down the correct town in
which he died on Long Island. I didn't realize the nursing home was not in
the same town he was living in. I called the clerk's office in Huntington
and have sent them a letter stating that I need the certificate for family
health reasons. I'm sure I'll get it, as the women I spoke to sounded
cooperative. Next, will be an attempt at getting the birth certificate from
NYC Vital Records. This may be much more difficult.

Thanks again.

Barbara Kiersh
Jacksonville, FL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Thanks for advice #general

barbara
 

Thank you all who gave me useful advice about getting the death and birth
certificates for my father >from NY. I tracked down the correct town in
which he died on Long Island. I didn't realize the nursing home was not in
the same town he was living in. I called the clerk's office in Huntington
and have sent them a letter stating that I need the certificate for family
health reasons. I'm sure I'll get it, as the women I spoke to sounded
cooperative. Next, will be an attempt at getting the birth certificate from
NYC Vital Records. This may be much more difficult.

Thanks again.

Barbara Kiersh
Jacksonville, FL


Sinai Cemetery in Winston Salem, NC #general

Billie Stein <billie@...>
 

Does anyone have an address (e-mail and/or snail mail) for the
Sinai Cemetery in Winston-Salem? Is it possible that they would
take a picture of a grave and send it to me in Israel?
According to her death certificate, my grandmother, Bessie
PLOTKIN (nee RUBENSTEIN) is buried there, but I have no idea of
the exact location.

Thanks in advance,

Billie Stein
Givatayim ISRAEL

Researching >from Belarus: DINNIN (Mogilev), PLOTKIN
(Bobruisk/Mogilev), RUBENSTEIN (Bobruisk)
from Galicia : LAMM, GLANTZ (Sieniawa) STEIN, JAKOB
(Tarnow/Zukowice Nowe)
from Ukraine: HOFFMAN (Yashin?)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sinai Cemetery in Winston Salem, NC #general

Billie Stein <billie@...>
 

Does anyone have an address (e-mail and/or snail mail) for the
Sinai Cemetery in Winston-Salem? Is it possible that they would
take a picture of a grave and send it to me in Israel?
According to her death certificate, my grandmother, Bessie
PLOTKIN (nee RUBENSTEIN) is buried there, but I have no idea of
the exact location.

Thanks in advance,

Billie Stein
Givatayim ISRAEL

Researching >from Belarus: DINNIN (Mogilev), PLOTKIN
(Bobruisk/Mogilev), RUBENSTEIN (Bobruisk)
from Galicia : LAMM, GLANTZ (Sieniawa) STEIN, JAKOB
(Tarnow/Zukowice Nowe)
from Ukraine: HOFFMAN (Yashin?)


Yiddish newspapers in France #france

Daniel Hanoch Wagner <Cpwagner@...>
 

Where can I find old Yiddish newspapers and/or books published in Paris
between 1915-1930? My greatgrandfather BenZion Wagner (who sometimes
used the pen name 'Benye Plepler') used to be a writer and editor but
except for 2 articles in a journal published in Antwerp in 1925, I have
found nothing >from him.

Any help would be appreciated.

H Daniel Wagner
The Livio Norzi Professor in Materials Science

Weizmann Institute of Science
E-mail: daniel.wagner@weizmann.ac.il
Homepage: http://www.weizmann.ac.il/wagner/home.htm


French SIG #France Yiddish newspapers in France #france

Daniel Hanoch Wagner <Cpwagner@...>
 

Where can I find old Yiddish newspapers and/or books published in Paris
between 1915-1930? My greatgrandfather BenZion Wagner (who sometimes
used the pen name 'Benye Plepler') used to be a writer and editor but
except for 2 articles in a journal published in Antwerp in 1925, I have
found nothing >from him.

Any help would be appreciated.

H Daniel Wagner
The Livio Norzi Professor in Materials Science

Weizmann Institute of Science
E-mail: daniel.wagner@weizmann.ac.il
Homepage: http://www.weizmann.ac.il/wagner/home.htm


Rosa NATHAN #france

Pierre Hahn <pierre28@...>
 

I have a death certificates of a Rosa NATHAN who died 24 Dec 1896 at age of
24, in Luxembourg. This is not one of my nathan's. If you are interested
in copy therof let me know.
Please respond directly to:

Pierre M. Hahn, San Francisco
pierre28@pacbell.net


French SIG #France Rosa NATHAN #france

Pierre Hahn <pierre28@...>
 

I have a death certificates of a Rosa NATHAN who died 24 Dec 1896 at age of
24, in Luxembourg. This is not one of my nathan's. If you are interested
in copy therof let me know.
Please respond directly to:

Pierre M. Hahn, San Francisco
pierre28@pacbell.net


Polish translation request for Drohobycz Galicia death record #galicia

Mark Jacobson
 

Hi
Could someone please help translate the information
written in Polish on the 1900 Drohobycz, Galicia death
record for my g-g-grandfather Ichel Eisig KAMMERMAN,
son of Schlomy and Ryfke Rachel KAMMERMAN. Ichel's
occupation on other records is listed as Rybak, Polish
for fisherman (same occupation as his son), but I do
not see that listed here. The record is written
clearly, but I'm not sure what it says.
Thank you!!!
Here is the link:

http://www.geocities.com/mark_j1_2000/Genealogy.html

Thanks!

Mark Jacobson
Boca Raton, FL


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DOGULOV/DOVGALEVSKY - Belaya Tserkov/Kiev Ukraine;
COHEN/KANA/KAHAN - Belaya Tserkov, Ukraine;
JACOBSON - Polotsk, Belarus; COBLENTZ - Polotsk, Belarus;
KAMERMAN - Drohobycz, Galicia;
KOPPEL - Stebnik/Drohobycz, Galicia;
JACOBI - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia; ROTHLEIN - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia;
TUCHFELD - Rzeszow/Stryj/Lvov, Galicia; GOLDSTEIN - Ranizow, Galicia


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Polish translation request for Drohobycz Galicia death record #galicia

Mark Jacobson
 

Hi
Could someone please help translate the information
written in Polish on the 1900 Drohobycz, Galicia death
record for my g-g-grandfather Ichel Eisig KAMMERMAN,
son of Schlomy and Ryfke Rachel KAMMERMAN. Ichel's
occupation on other records is listed as Rybak, Polish
for fisherman (same occupation as his son), but I do
not see that listed here. The record is written
clearly, but I'm not sure what it says.
Thank you!!!
Here is the link:

http://www.geocities.com/mark_j1_2000/Genealogy.html

Thanks!

Mark Jacobson
Boca Raton, FL


=====
DOGULOV/DOVGALEVSKY - Belaya Tserkov/Kiev Ukraine;
COHEN/KANA/KAHAN - Belaya Tserkov, Ukraine;
JACOBSON - Polotsk, Belarus; COBLENTZ - Polotsk, Belarus;
KAMERMAN - Drohobycz, Galicia;
KOPPEL - Stebnik/Drohobycz, Galicia;
JACOBI - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia; ROTHLEIN - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia;
TUCHFELD - Rzeszow/Stryj/Lvov, Galicia; GOLDSTEIN - Ranizow, Galicia


From Courland to Novo Borislav #courland #latvia

Pavel Bernshtam
 

Hello!

I just received a birth record of my great grandfather's brother from
Mormon copies of Melitopol archives.
This records says that his father Aron Leib Aronov Berenshtam was a
member of Agricultural colony Novo Borislav.
This information suprised me because:
1) As I know the family lived in Akimovka, near Melitopol
2) Novo Borislav colony is placed relatively far >from Akimovka, even
in another uyezd (do somebody knows which uyezd? Kherson?)

I think (without any prove) that the family moved to Ukraine from
Courland, so my questions are:

1) Do somebody knows about some archival resources with a list of jews
who moved >from Courland to Ukraine agricultural colonies?
2) Do somebody knows about some lists of jews who arrived to Novo
Borislav colony?
3) Where should I search for census data and metrical books of Novo
Borislav colony - Kherson or something else?
I searched rtrfoundation.org, but they have not entries on Novo Borislav.
4) Is there chance that they all the time lived in Akimovka but
somehow were recorded as Novo Borislav citizens?

Thank you!

Pavel Bernshtam

Searching for:
ITKIN-Kolyshki, Vitebsk uyead, Vitebsk gubernia; Kharkov,
BENIOMENSON-Bocheikovo,
Lepel uyezd, Kharkov,BERNSHTAM-Akimovka (Melitopol oblast), Melitopol,
ALTSHULER-Priazovskoe (Pokrovka)(Melitopol oblast) , Melitopol, Chausy (Mogilev
gubernia)KANTOR-Polonnoe (Volyn gubernia), Baranovka (Volyn gubernia), Zhitomir,
LAMDAN, LAMDIN-Mlinov ZHURAHOV, ZURAHOV-Chervonnoe (Zhitomir uyezd), Verbovo
(Skvir uyezd) ,Zhitomir, KELMAN-Chervonnoe (Zhitomir uyezd), Zhitomir


Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia From Courland to Novo Borislav #courland #latvia

Pavel Bernshtam
 

Hello!

I just received a birth record of my great grandfather's brother from
Mormon copies of Melitopol archives.
This records says that his father Aron Leib Aronov Berenshtam was a
member of Agricultural colony Novo Borislav.
This information suprised me because:
1) As I know the family lived in Akimovka, near Melitopol
2) Novo Borislav colony is placed relatively far >from Akimovka, even
in another uyezd (do somebody knows which uyezd? Kherson?)

I think (without any prove) that the family moved to Ukraine from
Courland, so my questions are:

1) Do somebody knows about some archival resources with a list of jews
who moved >from Courland to Ukraine agricultural colonies?
2) Do somebody knows about some lists of jews who arrived to Novo
Borislav colony?
3) Where should I search for census data and metrical books of Novo
Borislav colony - Kherson or something else?
I searched rtrfoundation.org, but they have not entries on Novo Borislav.
4) Is there chance that they all the time lived in Akimovka but
somehow were recorded as Novo Borislav citizens?

Thank you!

Pavel Bernshtam

Searching for:
ITKIN-Kolyshki, Vitebsk uyead, Vitebsk gubernia; Kharkov,
BENIOMENSON-Bocheikovo,
Lepel uyezd, Kharkov,BERNSHTAM-Akimovka (Melitopol oblast), Melitopol,
ALTSHULER-Priazovskoe (Pokrovka)(Melitopol oblast) , Melitopol, Chausy (Mogilev
gubernia)KANTOR-Polonnoe (Volyn gubernia), Baranovka (Volyn gubernia), Zhitomir,
LAMDAN, LAMDIN-Mlinov ZHURAHOV, ZURAHOV-Chervonnoe (Zhitomir uyezd), Verbovo
(Skvir uyezd) ,Zhitomir, KELMAN-Chervonnoe (Zhitomir uyezd), Zhitomir


looking for Edelman from Keidan in New York #lithuania

Tamar Dothan [dothan-t@...
 

Hello,

Through Keidan sig Henry Edelman , my second cousin onced removed from
New Zealand , and I were able to find each other about half a year ago.
Thanks to Henry I've met with his Israeli brother Benny and their cousin
Henry and their wives Lucille and Ruth and we have all enjoyed it.

I am trying to see whether we can be lucky again. I am looking for the
descendents of Isidor [Isaac] Meir Edelman son of Zeev Wolf , who was
born in Keidan and died in New York in January 26th, 1937 aged 67 [as
recorded on ALD cemetary data]. My great grandmother Sara Sheine [born
in 1854/5] was daughter of Wolf Edelman >from Keidan, and I wonder whether
Isidor Meir was her younger brother.

Tamar Dothan
Jerusalem, Israel

Looking for: EDELMAN ->from Keidan and Kraziai;
SROELOV- >from Keidan, Siaulenai and USA; SMILG->from Keidan;
LEVIN->from Keidan and Paris;

YOSEPOV->from Zhvanetz; LERNER->from Dunayevtze, Minkovtsy,
Kitaigorod and Tiraspol; LISSIN->from dunayevtze.


Keidan Jews #Keidan #Lithuania looking for Edelman from Keidan in New York #lithuania

Tamar Dothan [dothan-t@...
 

Hello,

Through Keidan sig Henry Edelman , my second cousin onced removed from
New Zealand , and I were able to find each other about half a year ago.
Thanks to Henry I've met with his Israeli brother Benny and their cousin
Henry and their wives Lucille and Ruth and we have all enjoyed it.

I am trying to see whether we can be lucky again. I am looking for the
descendents of Isidor [Isaac] Meir Edelman son of Zeev Wolf , who was
born in Keidan and died in New York in January 26th, 1937 aged 67 [as
recorded on ALD cemetary data]. My great grandmother Sara Sheine [born
in 1854/5] was daughter of Wolf Edelman >from Keidan, and I wonder whether
Isidor Meir was her younger brother.

Tamar Dothan
Jerusalem, Israel

Looking for: EDELMAN ->from Keidan and Kraziai;
SROELOV- >from Keidan, Siaulenai and USA; SMILG->from Keidan;
LEVIN->from Keidan and Paris;

YOSEPOV->from Zhvanetz; LERNER->from Dunayevtze, Minkovtsy,
Kitaigorod and Tiraspol; LISSIN->from dunayevtze.


Jamila(e) Levy and Shahadi (Shady) Johanna (Sankary Sankari) (Horn) #general

Yehudah30@...
 

I am looking for information on Jamila LEVY who was the mother of Shhadi SANKARY
(U.S.). Her husband's name was Salim or Salem JOHANNA. They lived in Tunis,
Tunisia, Turkey and Damscus Syria. Siblings of Jamila(e|i) and Sal(e|i)m were
Shahadi Johanna (CN Sankary), Hyim, Hesney, Nissim, Rachel, David and Betty.
Salim died in 1917 at 48. All the family came to America except Salim. I am
lookin for roots overseas. Shahadi's grandfather was also named Shahadi.

Note that Shahadi SANKARY married Celia Horn daughter of Eli Horn supposedly
from Lublin Poland.
Yehudah ben Shlomo


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jamila(e) Levy and Shahadi (Shady) Johanna (Sankary Sankari) (Horn) #general

Yehudah30@...
 

I am looking for information on Jamila LEVY who was the mother of Shhadi SANKARY
(U.S.). Her husband's name was Salim or Salem JOHANNA. They lived in Tunis,
Tunisia, Turkey and Damscus Syria. Siblings of Jamila(e|i) and Sal(e|i)m were
Shahadi Johanna (CN Sankary), Hyim, Hesney, Nissim, Rachel, David and Betty.
Salim died in 1917 at 48. All the family came to America except Salim. I am
lookin for roots overseas. Shahadi's grandfather was also named Shahadi.

Note that Shahadi SANKARY married Celia Horn daughter of Eli Horn supposedly
from Lublin Poland.
Yehudah ben Shlomo


Recording a "Family" Name where none yet existed #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 8/22/2004 10:27:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
har_mir@bezeqint.net writes:

Most of us are familiar with the custom of taking the given name of the
father as the family name, in the period before the compulsory introduction
of family names and where we do not have an established family name
extending over several generations. This Prussian custom is also seen in
early 19th century English synagogue records. For example, Moshe, whose
father was Yaakov ben Yehezkel, would have the patronymic Moshe ben Yaakov
(for synagogue) which was usually simplified in civilian life to Moshe Yaakov,
so that Yaakov became the new "family name" for one generation.. May I invite
comments on a proposal to exploit this custom in order to give family names in
places where they do not exist? Do readers consider it a legitimate procedure?
Harold Lewin - Jerusalem >>>

==Legitimate but not necessarily all that useful to us. You need this name
not just to establish a record for this ancestor, but to make a search
possible. I would use that path only where the patronymic eventually became the
family name. Thus, all my Wolff ancestors are listed as Wolff, even Baruch and
Meir who died before the surname lists.

==Of course, if one branch acquired a family name that was used before the
name lists (e.g., Wassertraeger, Holtzhacker, or Judenlehrer) and did not change
it, I would list that name >from its first occurrence.

==In my Bernet line, the Bernet name first appeared in the naming list for
JontefBer, who was born around 1750. I list all his descendants as Bernet,
unless/until they changed their names (e.g., Barnet[t] in the USA, or Bernert in
Nurnberg).

==My family, >from the village of Frensdorf near Bamberg (northern Bavaria)
took eightt different names for the naming list. I give each branch the name
they took, but I call their ancestors by the name of the earliest recorded,
Suesslein-Hirsch. True, Hirsch was a patronym but I use it to qualify Suesslein
to differentiate it >from all the subsequent descendants with the given name
Suesslein.

==It looks like in every generation one of the branches became known by the
name of our village. To these branches I give the name Frensdorf or
Frensdorff, whichever they preferred to use. Of course, I had the option of
naming the entire family by the name of the village until they took official
names, but I prefer to keep all branches linked by the first known ancestor.

==It might be useful for search/reference purposes to use one "original" name
by which we could name the entire chain, with each branch then designated by
the adopted name. Does anyone have experience with this? Is this an option
with a specific software program?

Michael Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Recording a "Family" Name where none yet existed #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 8/22/2004 10:27:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
har_mir@bezeqint.net writes:

Most of us are familiar with the custom of taking the given name of the
father as the family name, in the period before the compulsory introduction
of family names and where we do not have an established family name
extending over several generations. This Prussian custom is also seen in
early 19th century English synagogue records. For example, Moshe, whose
father was Yaakov ben Yehezkel, would have the patronymic Moshe ben Yaakov
(for synagogue) which was usually simplified in civilian life to Moshe Yaakov,
so that Yaakov became the new "family name" for one generation.. May I invite
comments on a proposal to exploit this custom in order to give family names in
places where they do not exist? Do readers consider it a legitimate procedure?
Harold Lewin - Jerusalem >>>

==Legitimate but not necessarily all that useful to us. You need this name
not just to establish a record for this ancestor, but to make a search
possible. I would use that path only where the patronymic eventually became the
family name. Thus, all my Wolff ancestors are listed as Wolff, even Baruch and
Meir who died before the surname lists.

==Of course, if one branch acquired a family name that was used before the
name lists (e.g., Wassertraeger, Holtzhacker, or Judenlehrer) and did not change
it, I would list that name >from its first occurrence.

==In my Bernet line, the Bernet name first appeared in the naming list for
JontefBer, who was born around 1750. I list all his descendants as Bernet,
unless/until they changed their names (e.g., Barnet[t] in the USA, or Bernert in
Nurnberg).

==My family, >from the village of Frensdorf near Bamberg (northern Bavaria)
took eightt different names for the naming list. I give each branch the name
they took, but I call their ancestors by the name of the earliest recorded,
Suesslein-Hirsch. True, Hirsch was a patronym but I use it to qualify Suesslein
to differentiate it >from all the subsequent descendants with the given name
Suesslein.

==It looks like in every generation one of the branches became known by the
name of our village. To these branches I give the name Frensdorf or
Frensdorff, whichever they preferred to use. Of course, I had the option of
naming the entire family by the name of the village until they took official
names, but I prefer to keep all branches linked by the first known ancestor.

==It might be useful for search/reference purposes to use one "original" name
by which we could name the entire chain, with each branch then designated by
the adopted name. Does anyone have experience with this? Is this an option
with a specific software program?

Michael Bernet, New York