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Re: Sobel Feminine Given Name #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 18:55:11 UTC, tagger@actcom.co.il (Mathilde Tagger)
opined:

Hello Susan,

Sobel- Feminine Given Name- is listed on Shmuel Gorr's book: Jewish Personal
Names. Avotaynu,1992.

According to it, Sobel derives >from the Aramaic noun Sabta that means
"grandmother" or "old woman".
...which makes one wonder what is going through the minds of some parents of
helpless little babies.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Sobel Feminine Given Name #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 18:55:11 UTC, tagger@actcom.co.il (Mathilde Tagger)
opined:

Hello Susan,

Sobel- Feminine Given Name- is listed on Shmuel Gorr's book: Jewish Personal
Names. Avotaynu,1992.

According to it, Sobel derives >from the Aramaic noun Sabta that means
"grandmother" or "old woman".
...which makes one wonder what is going through the minds of some parents of
helpless little babies.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


Galician Birth Records #poland

HJB <hjb@...>
 

I have some questions regarding interpretation of Galician Birth
records in chart form. If one finds a birth to parents where the
given names as well as surnames are the same as other
registrations, and the house number is the same, could one assume
that both births are in the same family unit?

If another family having the same surname has the same house
number, can one assume that both families are related?

I've found some births to my Haber line on JRI-Poland and some of
my dear cousins can't be convinced that they belong to our
family. I hope that I've been clear enough for a response.
Thanks in advance for your efforts.

Hazel Sandow Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Researching: HABER - Zurów, Galicia (now Zhuriv, Ukraine), NYC;
STARK - Bóbrka, Galicia (now Ukraine), NYC;
SADOVSKI/SADOWSKY - Belchatów & Lodz, Poland, NYC;
KANET/KANNETT/KANNATT - Czyzewo, Poland, NYC


JRI Poland #Poland Galician Birth Records #poland

HJB <hjb@...>
 

I have some questions regarding interpretation of Galician Birth
records in chart form. If one finds a birth to parents where the
given names as well as surnames are the same as other
registrations, and the house number is the same, could one assume
that both births are in the same family unit?

If another family having the same surname has the same house
number, can one assume that both families are related?

I've found some births to my Haber line on JRI-Poland and some of
my dear cousins can't be convinced that they belong to our
family. I hope that I've been clear enough for a response.
Thanks in advance for your efforts.

Hazel Sandow Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Researching: HABER - Zurów, Galicia (now Zhuriv, Ukraine), NYC;
STARK - Bóbrka, Galicia (now Ukraine), NYC;
SADOVSKI/SADOWSKY - Belchatów & Lodz, Poland, NYC;
KANET/KANNETT/KANNATT - Czyzewo, Poland, NYC


SIEGAL and KASKY, Chicago #general

Meira Puterman <meira@...>
 

Dear fellow Jewish Genners

My grandfather, Kalman SEGAL, had a brother Louis H. SIEGAL and a sister
Bertha. I believe they came >from Pikeliai (Pikelin in Yiddish) in Lithuania.

My grandfather came to South Africa in the 1920s, while his brother and
sister went to the United States (I'm assuming also in the 1920s). Both
Louis and Bertha lived in Chicago, IL. Bertha married Sam KASKY and had one
daughter, Ruth KASKY. Louis married and had two daughters, one named
Lillian.Louis died on 15 February 1963.

I have searched the Social Security Death Index for all these names but can
only find a death record for Ruth KASKY.

Since I live in South Africa, I'm not sure where to go to >from here. Can
anyone please give me some leads?

Contact me privately at meira@cambrient.com.

Thanking you in advance.

Kind regards
Meira Puterman

Searching (Poland): PUTERMAN, KURLENDER, ROZENCWAJG, RUTMAN, RUTMANOWICZ,
SZTERENSZUS, WARSZAU, WARSZAWSKI, CUKER/ZUCKER/TZUCKER
Searching (Lithuania): DIRMEIK, SEGAL/SIEGAL
Searching towns: Szydlowiec, Lipsko, Sienno (Poland); Tryskiai / Trishik,
Dirmeikiai (Lithuania)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SIEGAL and KASKY, Chicago #general

Meira Puterman <meira@...>
 

Dear fellow Jewish Genners

My grandfather, Kalman SEGAL, had a brother Louis H. SIEGAL and a sister
Bertha. I believe they came >from Pikeliai (Pikelin in Yiddish) in Lithuania.

My grandfather came to South Africa in the 1920s, while his brother and
sister went to the United States (I'm assuming also in the 1920s). Both
Louis and Bertha lived in Chicago, IL. Bertha married Sam KASKY and had one
daughter, Ruth KASKY. Louis married and had two daughters, one named
Lillian.Louis died on 15 February 1963.

I have searched the Social Security Death Index for all these names but can
only find a death record for Ruth KASKY.

Since I live in South Africa, I'm not sure where to go to >from here. Can
anyone please give me some leads?

Contact me privately at meira@cambrient.com.

Thanking you in advance.

Kind regards
Meira Puterman

Searching (Poland): PUTERMAN, KURLENDER, ROZENCWAJG, RUTMAN, RUTMANOWICZ,
SZTERENSZUS, WARSZAU, WARSZAWSKI, CUKER/ZUCKER/TZUCKER
Searching (Lithuania): DIRMEIK, SEGAL/SIEGAL
Searching towns: Szydlowiec, Lipsko, Sienno (Poland); Tryskiai / Trishik,
Dirmeikiai (Lithuania)


Hungarian Jews in Virginia 1800s #general

Pat Westfall
 

I am looking for Henry CARDOS and Sarah STEIN in Virginia in 1888-90.
Census says they were Hungarian Jews. Any historical sources about
Jews in Virginia, or the name of the synogogue near Pocahontas?
Thanks
Pat Westfall - researching CARDOS, GROSSENBACHER, DORHOFER, LUBAVIN


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hungarian Jews in Virginia 1800s #general

Pat Westfall
 

I am looking for Henry CARDOS and Sarah STEIN in Virginia in 1888-90.
Census says they were Hungarian Jews. Any historical sources about
Jews in Virginia, or the name of the synogogue near Pocahontas?
Thanks
Pat Westfall - researching CARDOS, GROSSENBACHER, DORHOFER, LUBAVIN


United States Adoption Resources #general

s_wiener@...
 

Dear Fellow Genners,

I have searched the info files and the Discussion
Group Archives and cannot find any pertinent
information re: adoption. I turn to you for advise
and some suggestions regarding Interstate Adoption in
the US, an area with which I am totally unfamiliar.

Last night, my friend's husband revealed that his
father, b. 1915 d. 1980, had been adopted shortly
after birth. The grandparents, residing in NYC
[possibly Queens] could not afford this [2nd] child.
There was an alleged older brother. This [2nd] child
was adopted by a family in West Virginia. Bubemises
imply that they were relatives. He grew up in West
Virginia, never seeing his natural family again.

The natural father was a Kohan, thus making the
adopted child a Kohan and my friend's husband one as
well. The adoption was never really spoken about,
other than to transmit the knowledge of Kohan status.
Evidently, the adopting family was not Kohanim.

Upon the death of my friend's husband's mother, he
found his father's birth certificate among family
papers. Somehow this NYC birth certificate shows the
natural parents names, which were very common Jewish
names. My friend's husband believes that he must have
cousins, children of his father's brother, with whom
he would like to establish contact.

I have suggested that he carefully review the birth
certificate. Then using the 1920 and 1930 US Census,
the 1925 NY Census as well as NYC directories, he
should try to locate the birth family. At the same
time, he should look in the 1920 and 1930 US Census in
West Virginia to see what was recorded about his
father. The results of these searches will then
determine what might be done next.

Here are my questions:

Where does one go to find information about interstate
adoptions? [I "googled" and looked at sites for about
1 hour, but nothing really fit the needs of this
situation.]

Could this have been an official adoption? Or just a
"shift the child in the family" event? In 1915 could
children just appear in various locations without any
documented explanation of their origins?

In 1980 could an individual obtain his original,
unaltered birth certificate if he were adopted?

Weren't birth certificates altered to show the adopted
parents as the "real" parents?

If all parties are deceased, are the records still
sealed? I recognize that the descendents of the
sibling[s] of this child might be shocked to learn of
his existence. On the other hand, they might be
looking for him, themselves.

TIA for your guidance and a Happy New Year!
Shellie Wiener
San Francisco, CA

not applicable to this posting but-
seaching for family from: Vatra Dornei, Wiznitz,
Putila, Kolomyya, Jablonów, Pechenezhin, Buchach,
Sanok, Tyrawa Woloska, Rachnita, Zawadka, Krzywcza,
Kutno, Pinsk, Lyubashevo


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen United States Adoption Resources #general

s_wiener@...
 

Dear Fellow Genners,

I have searched the info files and the Discussion
Group Archives and cannot find any pertinent
information re: adoption. I turn to you for advise
and some suggestions regarding Interstate Adoption in
the US, an area with which I am totally unfamiliar.

Last night, my friend's husband revealed that his
father, b. 1915 d. 1980, had been adopted shortly
after birth. The grandparents, residing in NYC
[possibly Queens] could not afford this [2nd] child.
There was an alleged older brother. This [2nd] child
was adopted by a family in West Virginia. Bubemises
imply that they were relatives. He grew up in West
Virginia, never seeing his natural family again.

The natural father was a Kohan, thus making the
adopted child a Kohan and my friend's husband one as
well. The adoption was never really spoken about,
other than to transmit the knowledge of Kohan status.
Evidently, the adopting family was not Kohanim.

Upon the death of my friend's husband's mother, he
found his father's birth certificate among family
papers. Somehow this NYC birth certificate shows the
natural parents names, which were very common Jewish
names. My friend's husband believes that he must have
cousins, children of his father's brother, with whom
he would like to establish contact.

I have suggested that he carefully review the birth
certificate. Then using the 1920 and 1930 US Census,
the 1925 NY Census as well as NYC directories, he
should try to locate the birth family. At the same
time, he should look in the 1920 and 1930 US Census in
West Virginia to see what was recorded about his
father. The results of these searches will then
determine what might be done next.

Here are my questions:

Where does one go to find information about interstate
adoptions? [I "googled" and looked at sites for about
1 hour, but nothing really fit the needs of this
situation.]

Could this have been an official adoption? Or just a
"shift the child in the family" event? In 1915 could
children just appear in various locations without any
documented explanation of their origins?

In 1980 could an individual obtain his original,
unaltered birth certificate if he were adopted?

Weren't birth certificates altered to show the adopted
parents as the "real" parents?

If all parties are deceased, are the records still
sealed? I recognize that the descendents of the
sibling[s] of this child might be shocked to learn of
his existence. On the other hand, they might be
looking for him, themselves.

TIA for your guidance and a Happy New Year!
Shellie Wiener
San Francisco, CA

not applicable to this posting but-
seaching for family from: Vatra Dornei, Wiznitz,
Putila, Kolomyya, Jablonów, Pechenezhin, Buchach,
Sanok, Tyrawa Woloska, Rachnita, Zawadka, Krzywcza,
Kutno, Pinsk, Lyubashevo


Josef FREUND #general

Linda Berkowitz <e-berkowitz@...>
 

I am searching for relatives of Josef FREUND, who lived in Chicago in
the late 1800s. He was the witness for several of my relatives when
they became citizens in the 1880s. I believe that Josef was related to
a Moritz FREUND who died in Bohemia. Moritz's wife was a Babette WEISS;
they had three kids, Henry, Joseph, and Hermine.

I'm not sure if there is a connection, but an Alois FREUND >from Tabor,
Bohemia married another relative.

Linda Berkowitz
Northbrook, IL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Josef FREUND #general

Linda Berkowitz <e-berkowitz@...>
 

I am searching for relatives of Josef FREUND, who lived in Chicago in
the late 1800s. He was the witness for several of my relatives when
they became citizens in the 1880s. I believe that Josef was related to
a Moritz FREUND who died in Bohemia. Moritz's wife was a Babette WEISS;
they had three kids, Henry, Joseph, and Hermine.

I'm not sure if there is a connection, but an Alois FREUND >from Tabor,
Bohemia married another relative.

Linda Berkowitz
Northbrook, IL


GREENBERG papers of intent #general

Sandra Yoder
 

In searching for Greenberg relatives, I requested and received some intents
for naturalization that I can't use. If you need them, let me know and I'll
send them to you at no cost:
Esther - born Warsaw, Poland on 4/17/1898 - a fur finisher - arrived NYC 1/24/1917
Pauline - born Warsaw, Poland on 9/10/1902 - an examiner - arrived NYC 6/8/1927
Paula - born Odessa on7/25/1881 - housewife - arrived NYC 4/3/1906 - husband Isaac
Sandra Yoder
Goshen IN


Looking for Itzhag Eizig EDLITZ in Israel #general

Andres Carciente
 

I am looking for Mr. Yitzhag Eizig EDLITZ in Israel!

Any information would be appreciate(
e-mail,phone-number or fax number)

Thanks,

Andres Carciente
Budapest


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen GREENBERG papers of intent #general

Sandra Yoder
 

In searching for Greenberg relatives, I requested and received some intents
for naturalization that I can't use. If you need them, let me know and I'll
send them to you at no cost:
Esther - born Warsaw, Poland on 4/17/1898 - a fur finisher - arrived NYC 1/24/1917
Pauline - born Warsaw, Poland on 9/10/1902 - an examiner - arrived NYC 6/8/1927
Paula - born Odessa on7/25/1881 - housewife - arrived NYC 4/3/1906 - husband Isaac
Sandra Yoder
Goshen IN


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for Itzhag Eizig EDLITZ in Israel #general

Andres Carciente
 

I am looking for Mr. Yitzhag Eizig EDLITZ in Israel!

Any information would be appreciate(
e-mail,phone-number or fax number)

Thanks,

Andres Carciente
Budapest


Searching submitters of Pages of Testimony BRITSHTEIN, BAR DIN, Sprintza LEVIN #general

Pierre KOGAN
 

I found in the Pages of Testimony >from Yad Vashem
3 submitters, relatives of EIGEL, who perished in the Shoa.
(it was also the name of my paternal grandmother, born in Odessa)

Mrs BRITSHTEIN,
address rehov Haganim XX Haifa (Israel)
(submitting for EIGEL, ROZENSHTEIN) in oct. 2002

BAR DIN
Varnenskaya street XX Odessa, Ukraine submitter of EIGEL in nov. 1992
perhaps named Flora BAR DIN, working at Amdocs, living in Petach Tikva
about 1997 at the same time as her mother-in-law emmigrated to Israel.

Shprintza LEVIN 1956, living also in Israel
submitting Yehoshua EIGEL

I would appreciate any information.
Thank you.
Pierre KOGAN
67000 Strasbourg
France


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching submitters of Pages of Testimony BRITSHTEIN, BAR DIN, Sprintza LEVIN #general

Pierre KOGAN
 

I found in the Pages of Testimony >from Yad Vashem
3 submitters, relatives of EIGEL, who perished in the Shoa.
(it was also the name of my paternal grandmother, born in Odessa)

Mrs BRITSHTEIN,
address rehov Haganim XX Haifa (Israel)
(submitting for EIGEL, ROZENSHTEIN) in oct. 2002

BAR DIN
Varnenskaya street XX Odessa, Ukraine submitter of EIGEL in nov. 1992
perhaps named Flora BAR DIN, working at Amdocs, living in Petach Tikva
about 1997 at the same time as her mother-in-law emmigrated to Israel.

Shprintza LEVIN 1956, living also in Israel
submitting Yehoshua EIGEL

I would appreciate any information.
Thank you.
Pierre KOGAN
67000 Strasbourg
France


Jewish Cemetery, Washington State #general

Derek & Rosemary Wenzerul <dandr@...>
 

Could anyone tell me if there is a Jewish Cemetery in Bremerton, Kitsap,
Washington, USA? If not, please could you tell me the nearest?

Thank you.

With best wishes for a healthy and happy 2005.

Rosemary Wenzerul
dandr@wenzeds.freeserve.co.uk
Researching: BARNETT, BENJAMIN, DEFRIES, GOLDSTON, MOLEN/VANDERMOLEN, MYERS,
NUNES-MARTINES/MARTIN and WENZERUL

MODERATOR NOTE: If you receive an answer that is not listed in the IAJGS list at
http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/northamerica/washstate.html, please fill out
(or ask your informant to fill out) and submit the survey at
http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/instructions/neesurvey.html


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Cemetery, Washington State #general

Derek & Rosemary Wenzerul <dandr@...>
 

Could anyone tell me if there is a Jewish Cemetery in Bremerton, Kitsap,
Washington, USA? If not, please could you tell me the nearest?

Thank you.

With best wishes for a healthy and happy 2005.

Rosemary Wenzerul
dandr@wenzeds.freeserve.co.uk
Researching: BARNETT, BENJAMIN, DEFRIES, GOLDSTON, MOLEN/VANDERMOLEN, MYERS,
NUNES-MARTINES/MARTIN and WENZERUL

MODERATOR NOTE: If you receive an answer that is not listed in the IAJGS list at
http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/northamerica/washstate.html, please fill out
(or ask your informant to fill out) and submit the survey at
http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/instructions/neesurvey.html