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Re: Warsaw Gymnasium and school records #warsaw #poland

Kris Murawski <kris.murawski@...>
 

"Gimnazjum" is not the name of a school. High school education in Poland
was divided in four years of "gimnazjum" followed by two years of "liceum".
You would have to know which "gimnazjum" in Warsaw your father attended.
The postal address of Warsaw University is Uniwersytet Warszawski,
Krakowskie Przedmiescie 26/28, 00-927 Warszawa.


My father attended the Warsaw Gymnasium in the 1920s. Can anyone tell me
where it was located and does it still exist? Did a Gymnasium offer
elementary and secondary education or just secondary/high school
education?
Can anyone refer me to a picture of it? Where could I locate my father's
school records? He also attended the University of Warsaw in the 1930s.
Does
anyone have an email or postal address for their school records archives
department?
Thank You,
George Mason (Mozeson)


Re: Warsaw Gymnasium and school records #warsaw #poland

Peter Lebensold <lebensold@...>
 

Hello again:

My impression is that there are presently over 50 gymnasia (middle =
schools)
in Warsaw. To have any hope of finding whether any records still exist, =
I
think you'd need to know the name of the gymnasium. Perhaps, if (see my
earlier response) you are able to locate your father's university =
records,
that would tell you >from which gymnasium he graduated.

Other stuff that might be helpful:

A posting here - just over a year ago - refers to a list of gymnasia at =
page
349 of the book "Zydzi w Warszawie" ("The Jews in Warsaw") written (in
Polish) by Marian Fuks.

There are old postcards, showing photos of a number of Warsaw schools, =
at
http://www.stalus.iq.pl/show.php/idc/15 ... and a few more at the
Architecture of Pre-War Warsaw site =
http://www.warszawa1939.pl/index.php
(click on "indeks" at the very bottom of that page, then on "kliknij" =
right
after "Indeks obiektow" on the top of the next page, then under =
"Obiekty"
scroll down to "Szkoly").

Peter Lebensold



Peter Lebensold

|-----Original Message-----
|From: George Mason [mailto:gmason3815@hotmail.com]
|Sent: December 5, 2003 8:55 AM
|To: Warszawa Research Group
|Subject: [warszawa] Warsaw Gymnasium and school records
|
|My father attended the Warsaw Gymnasium in the 1920s. Can anyone tell =
me
|where it was located and does it still exist? Did a Gymnasium offer
|elementary and secondary education or just secondary/high school =
education?
|Can anyone refer me to a picture of it? Where could I locate my =
father's
|school records? He also attended the University of Warsaw in the 1930s.
|Does
|anyone have an email or postal address for their school records =
archives
|department?
|Thank You,
|George Mason (Mozeson)
|
|Searching for MOZESON and GOLDBERG in Warsaw
|
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Re: Warsaw Gymnasium and school records #warsaw #poland

Peter Lebensold <lebensold@...>
 

Back in February, Garry Mokotoff sent the Warszawa Research Group the
following:

"From: Gary Mokotoff - Optimum [mailto:mokotoff@optonline.net]=20

In 1997 I went to Warsaw and one of the sites I visited looking for
documentation of Mokotow relatives was the archives of the University of
Warsaw. At that time, they were in the process of computerizing the =
names
of every student who attended the University >from about 1915 to the =
present.
The only Mokotow in the database was a Riwka Mokotow. =20

The information they have in their archives can be very valuable. It
includes the application for admission which includes such information =
as
address and names of parents.

It also included a picture of the student.

Many of their Jewish students were murdered in the Holocaust and the =
picture
may be the only surviving portrait of the person.

I doubt if they would respond to mail inquiries, but if you are going to
Warsaw, it might be worth a stop at the archives. The lookups are quick
because it is computerized. (I seem to recall they even had wildcard =
search
capability.)"

I note that the University of Warsaw has a pretty slick - and
English-language - website at =
http://www.uw.edu.pl/uw_new/eng/index.shtml
There are email addresses aplenty for all sorts of departments, =
including
the Preservation and Conservation Department of the Library.

Peter Lebensold


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland Re: Warsaw Gymnasium and school records #warsaw #poland

Kris Murawski <kris.murawski@...>
 

"Gimnazjum" is not the name of a school. High school education in Poland
was divided in four years of "gimnazjum" followed by two years of "liceum".
You would have to know which "gimnazjum" in Warsaw your father attended.
The postal address of Warsaw University is Uniwersytet Warszawski,
Krakowskie Przedmiescie 26/28, 00-927 Warszawa.


My father attended the Warsaw Gymnasium in the 1920s. Can anyone tell me
where it was located and does it still exist? Did a Gymnasium offer
elementary and secondary education or just secondary/high school
education?
Can anyone refer me to a picture of it? Where could I locate my father's
school records? He also attended the University of Warsaw in the 1930s.
Does
anyone have an email or postal address for their school records archives
department?
Thank You,
George Mason (Mozeson)


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland RE: Warsaw Gymnasium and school records #poland #warsaw

Peter Lebensold <lebensold@...>
 

Hello again:

My impression is that there are presently over 50 gymnasia (middle =
schools)
in Warsaw. To have any hope of finding whether any records still exist, =
I
think you'd need to know the name of the gymnasium. Perhaps, if (see my
earlier response) you are able to locate your father's university =
records,
that would tell you >from which gymnasium he graduated.

Other stuff that might be helpful:

A posting here - just over a year ago - refers to a list of gymnasia at =
page
349 of the book "Zydzi w Warszawie" ("The Jews in Warsaw") written (in
Polish) by Marian Fuks.

There are old postcards, showing photos of a number of Warsaw schools, =
at
http://www.stalus.iq.pl/show.php/idc/15 ... and a few more at the
Architecture of Pre-War Warsaw site =
http://www.warszawa1939.pl/index.php
(click on "indeks" at the very bottom of that page, then on "kliknij" =
right
after "Indeks obiektow" on the top of the next page, then under =
"Obiekty"
scroll down to "Szkoly").

Peter Lebensold



Peter Lebensold

|-----Original Message-----
|From: George Mason [mailto:gmason3815@hotmail.com]
|Sent: December 5, 2003 8:55 AM
|To: Warszawa Research Group
|Subject: [warszawa] Warsaw Gymnasium and school records
|
|My father attended the Warsaw Gymnasium in the 1920s. Can anyone tell =
me
|where it was located and does it still exist? Did a Gymnasium offer
|elementary and secondary education or just secondary/high school =
education?
|Can anyone refer me to a picture of it? Where could I locate my =
father's
|school records? He also attended the University of Warsaw in the 1930s.
|Does
|anyone have an email or postal address for their school records =
archives
|department?
|Thank You,
|George Mason (Mozeson)
|
|Searching for MOZESON and GOLDBERG in Warsaw
|
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Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland RE: Warsaw Gymnasium and school records #warsaw #poland

Peter Lebensold <lebensold@...>
 

Back in February, Garry Mokotoff sent the Warszawa Research Group the
following:

"From: Gary Mokotoff - Optimum [mailto:mokotoff@optonline.net]=20

In 1997 I went to Warsaw and one of the sites I visited looking for
documentation of Mokotow relatives was the archives of the University of
Warsaw. At that time, they were in the process of computerizing the =
names
of every student who attended the University >from about 1915 to the =
present.
The only Mokotow in the database was a Riwka Mokotow. =20

The information they have in their archives can be very valuable. It
includes the application for admission which includes such information =
as
address and names of parents.

It also included a picture of the student.

Many of their Jewish students were murdered in the Holocaust and the =
picture
may be the only surviving portrait of the person.

I doubt if they would respond to mail inquiries, but if you are going to
Warsaw, it might be worth a stop at the archives. The lookups are quick
because it is computerized. (I seem to recall they even had wildcard =
search
capability.)"

I note that the University of Warsaw has a pretty slick - and
English-language - website at =
http://www.uw.edu.pl/uw_new/eng/index.shtml
There are email addresses aplenty for all sorts of departments, =
including
the Preservation and Conservation Department of the Library.

Peter Lebensold


Zgierz #lodz #poland

Roni S. Liebowitz
 

Dear Researchers,

For those of you who are researching Zgierz, Poland I think you'll be
interested in this contact in Poland. The director of the Museum there is
willing and eager to provide information and share historical documents
about the Jews in this town. His contact information is Marcin (Martin)
Czaplicki at marcin.czaplicki@polkomtel.com.pl
I heard >from Marcin once before when he noticed a few errors about the
identity of some picture postcards listed on the LARG site. He seems very
eager to gather and share information for his town of Zgierz.

I was working for a long while with the director of the Belchatow
Museum--until his sudden and untimely death at 54 years of age. He never
asked for payment---was happy to research the history of the Jews in
Belchatow and thrilled the information was put on the ShtetLinks site. He
provided me with old photographs, articles, Jewish election and synagogue
lists, etc. I hope you can have the same enriching experience by working
with Marcin.

Let me know. I would hate to miss this opportunity to gain information
about the town.

Regards,
Roni

(Roni Seibel Liebowitz)
New York
LARG Co-coordinator http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/LARG.htm
Belchatow ShtetLink Coordinator
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/belchatow/
Belchatow Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing- Poland,
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/belchatow.htm
Belchatow Yizkor Book Project Coordinator
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Belchatow/Belchatow.html
JRI-Poland Board Member http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/
________________________________


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Zgierz #lodz #poland

Roni S. Liebowitz
 

Dear Researchers,

For those of you who are researching Zgierz, Poland I think you'll be
interested in this contact in Poland. The director of the Museum there is
willing and eager to provide information and share historical documents
about the Jews in this town. His contact information is Marcin (Martin)
Czaplicki at marcin.czaplicki@polkomtel.com.pl
I heard >from Marcin once before when he noticed a few errors about the
identity of some picture postcards listed on the LARG site. He seems very
eager to gather and share information for his town of Zgierz.

I was working for a long while with the director of the Belchatow
Museum--until his sudden and untimely death at 54 years of age. He never
asked for payment---was happy to research the history of the Jews in
Belchatow and thrilled the information was put on the ShtetLinks site. He
provided me with old photographs, articles, Jewish election and synagogue
lists, etc. I hope you can have the same enriching experience by working
with Marcin.

Let me know. I would hate to miss this opportunity to gain information
about the town.

Regards,
Roni

(Roni Seibel Liebowitz)
New York
LARG Co-coordinator http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/LARG.htm
Belchatow ShtetLink Coordinator
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/belchatow/
Belchatow Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing- Poland,
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/belchatow.htm
Belchatow Yizkor Book Project Coordinator
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Belchatow/Belchatow.html
JRI-Poland Board Member http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/
________________________________


P.S. To Search for Mary Birkhahn's daughter #belarus

Rachelle <rlberliner@...>
 

This is additional information re our search, and, hopefully, will enable a
genner to give us a contact name and email address.

Descendants of Mary Hellman

1 Mary Hellman b: Abt. 1865
.. +Phillip Birkhahn b: Abt. 1858
..... 2 Augusta Birkhahn Burial: Miami Dade, FL b: June 24, 1888 d: May
1984
......... +Herman "Harry" Freidberg b: July 12, 1890 d: February 1967
............ 3 Lucille Freidberg b: Abt. 1908
................ +Henry Davis b: Abt. 1906
............ 3 Milton Freidberg b: August 10, 1912 d: May 1961
............ 3 Ruth Freidberg b: Abt. 1915
............ 3 Rena Freidberg b: Abt. 1922

Thank you again!
Rachelle Berliner
Savannah, GA
rlberliner@comcast.net


Belarus SIG #Belarus P.S. To Search for Mary Birkhahn's daughter #belarus

Rachelle <rlberliner@...>
 

This is additional information re our search, and, hopefully, will enable a
genner to give us a contact name and email address.

Descendants of Mary Hellman

1 Mary Hellman b: Abt. 1865
.. +Phillip Birkhahn b: Abt. 1858
..... 2 Augusta Birkhahn Burial: Miami Dade, FL b: June 24, 1888 d: May
1984
......... +Herman "Harry" Freidberg b: July 12, 1890 d: February 1967
............ 3 Lucille Freidberg b: Abt. 1908
................ +Henry Davis b: Abt. 1906
............ 3 Milton Freidberg b: August 10, 1912 d: May 1961
............ 3 Ruth Freidberg b: Abt. 1915
............ 3 Rena Freidberg b: Abt. 1922

Thank you again!
Rachelle Berliner
Savannah, GA
rlberliner@comcast.net


The word "Israelites" and "Old Believers." #belarus

NFatouros@...
 

On Oct.4,03 Jim Bennet asked about the B-M-D records he'd on a site regarding
Novogrudok Metrical Records. He wonderd what "Israelites" meant in this
context.

On Oct.5, 03 Elena Smirnova gave an explanation , but still posed the
question what was meant by the word "Israelites."

On Oct.7, 03 Steve Orlen suggested that "Israelites" might refer to what is
called in English "Old Believers." But this was a Christian sect also which
was also known as "Old Ritualists."

Like members of many several official religious, like Protestantism,
Catholicism other Christian sects like the Subbotniks, Skoptsy (Castrati), Molokans,
Dukhobors, and also Muslims and peoples of other religous concepts, Old
Believers were persecuted by the Tsars and after the Revolution they were not
treated any more sympathetically by the atheistic Soviet regime than were the Jews.
(For a time, before the Revolution, the German Mennonites who set up
farming communities were appreciated for their skills, sobriety and cleanliness.)
Karaites were also of Jewish belief, but rejected the Talmud.

There were two sorts of Old Believers. Some maintained respect of the
sacraments and priests and the others who did not. However, Old Believers were
not, it seems, Jewish in origin. They simply did not subscribe to all the tenets
and rituals of the Russian Orthodox Church. It may be that Mr. Orlen also was
thinking of Subbotniks, who observed the Sabbath on the same day the Jews did
or maybe he had in mind the Karaites.

It should be borne in mind that Christianity came relatively lately,several
hundred years after Jesus' death, to Russia, and it came >from Byzantium, rather
than >from Rome. Before Christianity arrived most Russians were "pagans."
(And some historians have observed that even during the early part of the
twentieth century pagan notions and rituals survived among Russian peasants along
with their hazy Christian ideas and practices.)

It is possible that the term "Israelites" was the website's translation of a
Belorussian word referring to Jews. But, according to my big Oxford
Russian-English, English-Russian dictionary and other references, a Jew could be
referred to as what I translaterate as an Ebrei (Hebrew) or as a Iudei. There was
also a word often used in Polish or Russian in contempt, "Zydow" like our
"kike," or "Yid," which I doubt would have been used in those church records that
sometimes included records of Jews or converted Jews.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa,St. Petersburg and
Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY,
WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk,
Berdichev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Belarus SIG #Belarus The word "Israelites" and "Old Believers." #belarus

NFatouros@...
 

On Oct.4,03 Jim Bennet asked about the B-M-D records he'd on a site regarding
Novogrudok Metrical Records. He wonderd what "Israelites" meant in this
context.

On Oct.5, 03 Elena Smirnova gave an explanation , but still posed the
question what was meant by the word "Israelites."

On Oct.7, 03 Steve Orlen suggested that "Israelites" might refer to what is
called in English "Old Believers." But this was a Christian sect also which
was also known as "Old Ritualists."

Like members of many several official religious, like Protestantism,
Catholicism other Christian sects like the Subbotniks, Skoptsy (Castrati), Molokans,
Dukhobors, and also Muslims and peoples of other religous concepts, Old
Believers were persecuted by the Tsars and after the Revolution they were not
treated any more sympathetically by the atheistic Soviet regime than were the Jews.
(For a time, before the Revolution, the German Mennonites who set up
farming communities were appreciated for their skills, sobriety and cleanliness.)
Karaites were also of Jewish belief, but rejected the Talmud.

There were two sorts of Old Believers. Some maintained respect of the
sacraments and priests and the others who did not. However, Old Believers were
not, it seems, Jewish in origin. They simply did not subscribe to all the tenets
and rituals of the Russian Orthodox Church. It may be that Mr. Orlen also was
thinking of Subbotniks, who observed the Sabbath on the same day the Jews did
or maybe he had in mind the Karaites.

It should be borne in mind that Christianity came relatively lately,several
hundred years after Jesus' death, to Russia, and it came >from Byzantium, rather
than >from Rome. Before Christianity arrived most Russians were "pagans."
(And some historians have observed that even during the early part of the
twentieth century pagan notions and rituals survived among Russian peasants along
with their hazy Christian ideas and practices.)

It is possible that the term "Israelites" was the website's translation of a
Belorussian word referring to Jews. But, according to my big Oxford
Russian-English, English-Russian dictionary and other references, a Jew could be
referred to as what I translaterate as an Ebrei (Hebrew) or as a Iudei. There was
also a word often used in Polish or Russian in contempt, "Zydow" like our
"kike," or "Yid," which I doubt would have been used in those church records that
sometimes included records of Jews or converted Jews.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa,St. Petersburg and
Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY,
WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk,
Berdichev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


obituary #lodz #poland

Samantha Stolberg <samanthastolberg@...>
 

Henry Fryde (appx 90 yrs old, real age unknown) formerly of Lodz and a
Holocaust survivor died Friday, November 28, 2003 in Skokie, Illinois. He
was the husband of the late Fela and the father to three daughters Rena
(Leonard Dolins), Carol (Charles Stolberg), and Sue (Craig Gordon).

Grandchildren include Roberta Dolins (great-grandchildren Jordan and
Stephanie), Arthur (Patricia) Dolins (great-grandchildren Sara and Michael),
Steven (Jenny) Dolins (great-grandchildren Zachary and Sydney).

Also, Adam (Samantha) Stolberg, Jeremy (Alissa) Stolberg, and Robin
Stolberg.

Also, Andrew, Brittany, and Danielle Gordon.

Henry and his wife escaped Germany with two small children (an infant son
died) and emigrated to Whitewater, Wisconsin before settling in Skokie,
Illinois.


Information provided by Samantha Stolberg (granddaughter-in-law)

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Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland obituary #poland #lodz

Samantha Stolberg <samanthastolberg@...>
 

Henry Fryde (appx 90 yrs old, real age unknown) formerly of Lodz and a
Holocaust survivor died Friday, November 28, 2003 in Skokie, Illinois. He
was the husband of the late Fela and the father to three daughters Rena
(Leonard Dolins), Carol (Charles Stolberg), and Sue (Craig Gordon).

Grandchildren include Roberta Dolins (great-grandchildren Jordan and
Stephanie), Arthur (Patricia) Dolins (great-grandchildren Sara and Michael),
Steven (Jenny) Dolins (great-grandchildren Zachary and Sydney).

Also, Adam (Samantha) Stolberg, Jeremy (Alissa) Stolberg, and Robin
Stolberg.

Also, Andrew, Brittany, and Danielle Gordon.

Henry and his wife escaped Germany with two small children (an infant son
died) and emigrated to Whitewater, Wisconsin before settling in Skokie,
Illinois.


Information provided by Samantha Stolberg (granddaughter-in-law)

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Dottie Miller's message in december 07, 2003 in Frenchsig digest #france

Robert Stern <robert.stern@...>
 

TournesolDear FrenchSig friends,

Dottie Miller mentions that in the list of names she's researching amongst
others, BLOCH >from Westhoffen.
My mother and her brothers and sisters were born in BALBRONN (Alsace,
France) -about 3 kilometers >from Westhoffen-, but lived for a long period in
Westhoffen.
I am very interested to know if those two BLOCH families are the same, are
connected or not.
Robert Stern, Eaubonne, France
robert.stern@wanadoo.fr


French SIG #France Dottie Miller's message in december 07, 2003 in Frenchsig digest #france

Robert Stern <robert.stern@...>
 

TournesolDear FrenchSig friends,

Dottie Miller mentions that in the list of names she's researching amongst
others, BLOCH >from Westhoffen.
My mother and her brothers and sisters were born in BALBRONN (Alsace,
France) -about 3 kilometers >from Westhoffen-, but lived for a long period in
Westhoffen.
I am very interested to know if those two BLOCH families are the same, are
connected or not.
Robert Stern, Eaubonne, France
robert.stern@wanadoo.fr


ViewMate translation of Yiddish document needed #general

KBee <kbrowne01518@...>
 

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3197
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3198

The above URL link to two related documents, first a letter in Yiddish
written in 1931 sent >from Berlin to my ggfather in Chicago. ggfather did
not understand Yiddish. He immigrated in 1891. The second, of which I
have only page 1, is in English and is the only know clue of my Jewish
ancestry. I am hoping that the Yiddish letter will provide more
information. I've been told that it was written by my ggfather's sister
in law, Beile, but that's about all I know or even suspect.

If the above links do not work go to:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html and view documents VM3197
and VM3198. I've heard >from a distant cousin that this may lead to
learning the identity of a relative lost durint the Holocaust. Based on
the context of the letter in English, this is not hard to understand.
The letter was sent >from Berlin in 1937.

Thanks in advance for any help unraveling this family historymystery.
--
***Ken Browne clacking the keys in Old Sturbridge Village,Massachusetts***

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation of Yiddish document needed #general

KBee <kbrowne01518@...>
 

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3197
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3198

The above URL link to two related documents, first a letter in Yiddish
written in 1931 sent >from Berlin to my ggfather in Chicago. ggfather did
not understand Yiddish. He immigrated in 1891. The second, of which I
have only page 1, is in English and is the only know clue of my Jewish
ancestry. I am hoping that the Yiddish letter will provide more
information. I've been told that it was written by my ggfather's sister
in law, Beile, but that's about all I know or even suspect.

If the above links do not work go to:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html and view documents VM3197
and VM3198. I've heard >from a distant cousin that this may lead to
learning the identity of a relative lost durint the Holocaust. Based on
the context of the letter in English, this is not hard to understand.
The letter was sent >from Berlin in 1937.

Thanks in advance for any help unraveling this family historymystery.
--
***Ken Browne clacking the keys in Old Sturbridge Village,Massachusetts***

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


Re: How I finally found grandpa on the ship manifest #general

Yeruchem & Fraida Cohen
 

Dear Roni,

It was wonderful reading of your genealogy victory. It gives all of us
researchers hope and the message is: be creative, be open, try to think "out
of the box."

Thanks for sharing,
Fraida Cohen


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: How I finally found grandpa on the ship manifest #general

Yeruchem & Fraida Cohen
 

Dear Roni,

It was wonderful reading of your genealogy victory. It gives all of us
researchers hope and the message is: be creative, be open, try to think "out
of the box."

Thanks for sharing,
Fraida Cohen