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Re: VM9440 - the marriage of my gggrandfather Mendel -request for #general

Catherine Youngren
 

I have posted the marriage record of my gggrandfather as file - VM9440 - on
the Viewmate website -
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=9440.
I would be so pleased if someone could translate this document for me line
by line.
My family is so excited to know that I have found this record.
Thanking you in advance for your help.

Please respond privately to - cy_design@telus.net.

Catherine Youngren
Vancouver, Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE:VM9440 - the marriage of my gggrandfather Mendel -request for #general

Catherine Youngren
 

I have posted the marriage record of my gggrandfather as file - VM9440 - on
the Viewmate website -
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=9440.
I would be so pleased if someone could translate this document for me line
by line.
My family is so excited to know that I have found this record.
Thanking you in advance for your help.

Please respond privately to - cy_design@telus.net.

Catherine Youngren
Vancouver, Canada


Monasterzyska Survivors List #galicia

KLOOGWEIN@...
 

A document >from the AJDC Landsmanshaftn Dept. in the YIVO Archives
in New York City (RG 335.7) has a list of 43 survivors of the Shoah
from Monasterzyska, who were residing in the region of Lower Silesia,
Poland in 1946. It includes the survivor's name, the parents' given
names, age, occupation, address in 1946.

The list should soon be posted on the Monasterzyska Shtetlpage.
Until then, if you had family >from Monasterzyska and want to check
a name with me, please contact me by email.

Judy Kloogman Weinstein
Great Neck, NY USA
kloogwein@aol.com


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Monasterzyska Survivors List #galicia

KLOOGWEIN@...
 

A document >from the AJDC Landsmanshaftn Dept. in the YIVO Archives
in New York City (RG 335.7) has a list of 43 survivors of the Shoah
from Monasterzyska, who were residing in the region of Lower Silesia,
Poland in 1946. It includes the survivor's name, the parents' given
names, age, occupation, address in 1946.

The list should soon be posted on the Monasterzyska Shtetlpage.
Until then, if you had family >from Monasterzyska and want to check
a name with me, please contact me by email.

Judy Kloogman Weinstein
Great Neck, NY USA
kloogwein@aol.com


Ordering instructions for The Jews of Galicia, 1839 #galicia

Suzan & Ron Wynne <srwynne@...>
 

For those interested in ordering the 82-page book or a CD of the
book, The Jews of Galicia in 1839, please go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/Galicia/html/JewsOfGalicia1839.html.
Ordering instructions can be found at that site.

The book is an excerpt >from a 740-page book published in England in
1842. It was compiled by Protestant missionaries who, in 1839,
visited Jewish communities around the world. The title of the book
is Narrative of a Mission of Inquiry to the Jews >from the Church of
Scotland in 1839.

Suzan Wynne
srwynne@erols.com
Kensington, MD


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Ordering instructions for The Jews of Galicia, 1839 #galicia

Suzan & Ron Wynne <srwynne@...>
 

For those interested in ordering the 82-page book or a CD of the
book, The Jews of Galicia in 1839, please go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/Galicia/html/JewsOfGalicia1839.html.
Ordering instructions can be found at that site.

The book is an excerpt >from a 740-page book published in England in
1842. It was compiled by Protestant missionaries who, in 1839,
visited Jewish communities around the world. The title of the book
is Narrative of a Mission of Inquiry to the Jews >from the Church of
Scotland in 1839.

Suzan Wynne
srwynne@erols.com
Kensington, MD


Collis near Gera #austria-czech

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

I am looking at Collis near Gera, Thueringia, Germany as a possible origin
of my KOLISCH family. I see that there is a three-volume work by Werner
Simsohn (d. 2001) on the Jews of Gera. Has anyone seen this?

Randol Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Collis near Gera #austria-czech

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

I am looking at Collis near Gera, Thueringia, Germany as a possible origin
of my KOLISCH family. I see that there is a three-volume work by Werner
Simsohn (d. 2001) on the Jews of Gera. Has anyone seen this?

Randol Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA


RE : photographer #france

Sophie - genealogie - <sblachet@...>
 

Pierre,

Cautin & Berger were famous photographers of the early
1900. We find some images and other documents on them
until 1910.
Robert Cautin was the most succesful one, I do not
know the first name of Berger.
We can find photo taken on some antique books, info on
them at ILAB, Musee des Beaux-Arts du Canada ....
They have photographed well known people such as Miss
Campton

I hope it helps
Sophie Blachet
Miami Beach, FL

--- Pierre Hahn <pierre28@pacbell.net> a écrit :

I have a picture/photo of an uncle taken by Cautin &
Berger, 62 r de Caumartin Paris. Can anyone tell me the years that
this firm of photographers was in business - my guess is in the
early 1900 but I would like to know in greater detail.

Thank you in advance for any information

Pierre M Hahn, San Francisco


French SIG #France RE : photographer #france

Sophie - genealogie - <sblachet@...>
 

Pierre,

Cautin & Berger were famous photographers of the early
1900. We find some images and other documents on them
until 1910.
Robert Cautin was the most succesful one, I do not
know the first name of Berger.
We can find photo taken on some antique books, info on
them at ILAB, Musee des Beaux-Arts du Canada ....
They have photographed well known people such as Miss
Campton

I hope it helps
Sophie Blachet
Miami Beach, FL

--- Pierre Hahn <pierre28@pacbell.net> a écrit :

I have a picture/photo of an uncle taken by Cautin &
Berger, 62 r de Caumartin Paris. Can anyone tell me the years that
this firm of photographers was in business - my guess is in the
early 1900 but I would like to know in greater detail.

Thank you in advance for any information

Pierre M Hahn, San Francisco


Lazarsfeld #austria-czech

Ann Jensen <annjen@...>
 

Some years ago Bob Lenk gave me his LAZARSFELD gedcom, when I didn't know
how we fitted. I have lost his email but thought I could use this forum to
say thankyou...I now know the English branches came down >from a son and
daughter of Simon, son of Raphael, and we trace back to Amschelberg and
Postelberg as Celia Male and others had suggested.

Ann Jensen, Australia
LAZARSFELD, HNILITSCHECK, WARNER, etc, Music Halls research


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Lazarsfeld #austria-czech

Ann Jensen <annjen@...>
 

Some years ago Bob Lenk gave me his LAZARSFELD gedcom, when I didn't know
how we fitted. I have lost his email but thought I could use this forum to
say thankyou...I now know the English branches came down >from a son and
daughter of Simon, son of Raphael, and we trace back to Amschelberg and
Postelberg as Celia Male and others had suggested.

Ann Jensen, Australia
LAZARSFELD, HNILITSCHECK, WARNER, etc, Music Halls research


Re: KOLISCH #austria-czech

Roberta Sheps
 

Further to Hanus Grab's posting, making a possible connection
between the surname Kolisch and the town Kolischow/Kolis*ov in the Pisek
District of Southern Bohemia, I have found that the district archivist in
Pisek has been extremely helpful.

His details are

Mgr. Jindriska Mosanska [jindriska.mosanska@pi.ceskearchivy.cz]

Roberta Sheps
Colchester, UK
Searching any Jewish families >from Pisek or Strakonice


Re: name changes #austria-czech

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/12/2007 2:21:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Zimmer-Luedinghausen@t-online.de writes:

<<in a marriage certificate >from Prague in 1793 Elias Pohl married SARA FILIP
KATZ >from JENICHOF. Beystand (witnesses) at this wedding were Wolf Ties and
NATHAN JENICHOF.

<< In the Familiant for Elias Pohl his wife is given as SARA LIPPMANN PHILIP.
In the 1794 Jewish Census Elias Pohl and his wife live in house number 157.
In the house there is also a NATHAN PHILIP, as well as two other people from
JENIKAU.

<< I have seen the names change >from LIPPMANN to PHILIP. BUT not the
leaving
out of a family name like in this case KATZ. What might be the reason for
these
different names? >>

==Let me try. For starters, this was a time when fixed surnames were being
introduced. The system would still have been in some flux.

==Sara Filip is named according to the older style, first her personal name,
followed
by the father's personal name, Filip/Philip was apparently a Kohen, so on
the
marriage certificate (do you mean the Hebrew-Aramaic contract known as a
Ketuba?)
that would be indicated. It could have been noted in the customary form,
haKohen;
Katz is an acronym name for Kohen.

==Nathan is known as Nathan Jenichov because Nathan is >from out of town,
Nathan of
Jenichov.

==Lippmann (alternate forms are Liebman, Lieberman, Lippe) is a kinnuy for
Eli'ezer
and for Elazar (and a few other names). I assume Elias was short for either
Eli'ezer or
for Elazar. A married woman under the old system, used her name followed by
her
husband's, so the Lippmann would be appropriate here. For one reason or
another,
she added also her father's name. Be thankful she didn't add JENICHOF for
good measure,

Michael Bernet, New York
_www.mem-Ber.net_ (http://www.mem-Ber.net)


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: KOLISCH #austria-czech

Roberta Sheps
 

Further to Hanus Grab's posting, making a possible connection
between the surname Kolisch and the town Kolischow/Kolis*ov in the Pisek
District of Southern Bohemia, I have found that the district archivist in
Pisek has been extremely helpful.

His details are

Mgr. Jindriska Mosanska [jindriska.mosanska@pi.ceskearchivy.cz]

Roberta Sheps
Colchester, UK
Searching any Jewish families >from Pisek or Strakonice


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: name changes #austria-czech

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/12/2007 2:21:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Zimmer-Luedinghausen@t-online.de writes:

<<in a marriage certificate >from Prague in 1793 Elias Pohl married SARA FILIP
KATZ >from JENICHOF. Beystand (witnesses) at this wedding were Wolf Ties and
NATHAN JENICHOF.

<< In the Familiant for Elias Pohl his wife is given as SARA LIPPMANN PHILIP.
In the 1794 Jewish Census Elias Pohl and his wife live in house number 157.
In the house there is also a NATHAN PHILIP, as well as two other people from
JENIKAU.

<< I have seen the names change >from LIPPMANN to PHILIP. BUT not the
leaving
out of a family name like in this case KATZ. What might be the reason for
these
different names? >>

==Let me try. For starters, this was a time when fixed surnames were being
introduced. The system would still have been in some flux.

==Sara Filip is named according to the older style, first her personal name,
followed
by the father's personal name, Filip/Philip was apparently a Kohen, so on
the
marriage certificate (do you mean the Hebrew-Aramaic contract known as a
Ketuba?)
that would be indicated. It could have been noted in the customary form,
haKohen;
Katz is an acronym name for Kohen.

==Nathan is known as Nathan Jenichov because Nathan is >from out of town,
Nathan of
Jenichov.

==Lippmann (alternate forms are Liebman, Lieberman, Lippe) is a kinnuy for
Eli'ezer
and for Elazar (and a few other names). I assume Elias was short for either
Eli'ezer or
for Elazar. A married woman under the old system, used her name followed by
her
husband's, so the Lippmann would be appropriate here. For one reason or
another,
she added also her father's name. Be thankful she didn't add JENICHOF for
good measure,

Michael Bernet, New York
_www.mem-Ber.net_ (http://www.mem-Ber.net)


Bobowa Indexing Project #poland

Eden Joachim <esjoachim@...>
 

I have some very exciting news for Bobowa area researchers. Jewish Records
Indexing - Poland has indexed all surviving Bobowa birth and death records
in the Skolyszyn sub-branch of the Rzeszow branch of the Polish State
Archives.

The breakdown of record types and availability is:
Births: 1850, 1854, 1857-1859, 1861-1866, 1868-1870, 1872-1895
Deaths: 1877-1904

Bobowa is located at 49 42 / 20 56, about 30 km ENE of Nowy Sacz and
15 km N of Grybów.

The other surrounding towns and villages most frequently mentioned in the
Bobawa vital records are Ciezkowice, Brzana Dolna, Nowy Sacz, Zborowice,
Wojnarowa, Lipnica, Gorlice, Brzana Górna, Kasna Górna, Ostrusza, and
Falkowa. All towns appearing 10 or more times are listed at the end of
this message.

INDICES TO THE PRE-1905 RECORDS IN THE SLOLYSZYN ARCHIVES
There are 1027 birth and 637 death entries in the Bobowa records for this
period . There are 793 different surnames. The surnames with 25 or more
entries are listed below and a file with the frequency of all surnames is
available.

These are **extended** indices and include the following information:

Surname
Given Name
Father's Name
Mother's Name
Mother's Maiden Name
Year of record
Year of event
Act Number
Town (other than Bobowa when mentioned)
Comments (usually includes dates of death if event occurred while the
register was active)

These pre-1905 indices will not be publicly available online until this
project has been fully funded through contributions. The fundraising target
for these indices is $600. While a donation of any amount is greatly
appreciated, a contribution of US $50 will qualify you to be eligible to
obtain an Excel spreadsheet containing all birth and death entries prior
to 1905.

Qualified Contributors are asked to sign a Database Sharing Agreement.
Upon receipt of the agreement, qualified contributors will receive a copy
of the Excel spreadsheet file with these pre-1905 indices. The Excel file
includes a special order form enabling you to order copies of these records
directly >from the Polish State Archives.

We hope you will support the indexing of the Bobowa Vital Records for your
own research and for the benefit of future generations. Information on how
to make a donation to the Bobowa project follows below:

If you would like further information about additional Bobowa Indexing
Projects or the Surname and Town Frequency Lists please contact me
directly.

Eden Joachim
Pomona, New York
Bobowa Town Leader
JRI-Poland Bobowa Indexing Projects
Skolyszyn Archive Coordinator
ESJoachim@optonline.net

Contributions to "Jewish Records Indexing - Poland" may be made by check,
bank draft, money order, or credit card. The web site for the credit
card contribution form is www.jri-poland.org/visa.htm

Canadian contributors: see special instructions below.
Other contributors: please send your contributions to:

Jewish Records Indexing-Poland, Inc.
c/o Sheila Salo, Treasurer
5607 Greenleaf Road
Cheverly, MD 20785 USA
Tel: 1-301-341-1261
Fax: 1-810-592-1768 (24 hours)
E-Mail: ssalo@capaccess.org

Credit card contributions may also be telephoned to Sheila Salo.

Mark your contributions as follows:
For the indexing of all Bobowa records up to 1905 in the Skolyszyn Archives
(PSA). ($50 minimum contribution)

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc. is an independent U.S.non-profit
501(c)(3) organization. Contributions to JRI-Poland are tax-deductible in
the U.S. and Canada to the extent permitted by law.

Canadian contributors: to be eligible for a tax receipt, you must pay by
cheque and use the form and follow the instructions at:
www.jri-poland.org/canadianform.htm

Surnames appearing ten or more times in the pre-1905 Bobowa records
BALDINGER 14 BAUERNFREUND 13 BLAUGRUND 13
BLUM 14 BODNER 15 BRUDER 10
CELNIK 12 EIGERMANN 30 FABER 19
FALIBAUM 13 FOLKMANN 10 FREUDENFALL 10
FUEHRER 53 GELLER 29 GOLDBERG 16
GOLDFINGER 20 GOTTLOB 11 GROSS 21
HAUSMANN 39 HIRSCH 20 HIRSCHFELD 27
HOCHBERGER 81 HOENIG 10 HOLLAENDER 25
KANT 41 KOCH 12 KRAUS 11
KUCHEL 12 KUECHEL 34 KURZ 12
LINDSMANN 10 LINKER 12 MAEHR 12
METH 15 PELIKANT 10 PLATNER 57
PRESSER 51 RIEGELHAUPT 18 RING 22
ROESLER 17 ROSNER 18 SCHEINBERG 15
SCHEUER 10 SCHMERZ 11 SCHULDENFREI 27
SCHWINGER 22 STEINLAUF 11 UNSDORF 25
WEISS 11 WILDSTEIN 29 WOLF 38
ZEHNGUT 16 ZEHNGUT 11 ZIMMER 11

Towns (other than Bobowa) in all records


Bochnia 11 Bogoniewice 13 Brusnik 30 Brzana 132
Brzana Górna 35 Brzesko 18 Bukowiec 29 Ciezkowice 435
Falkowa 40 Gorlice 68 Jamna 21 Jankowa 35 Jasienna 17
Jastrzebia 42 Kasna 14 Kasna Dolna 14 Kasna Górna 43
Kraków 25 Limanowa 17 Lipnica 67 Nowy Sacz 98 Ostrusza 35
Rzepiennik 23 Sedziszowa 22 Siedliska 22 Stróze Nizne 20
Strózna 11 Tarnów 43 Wilczyska 17 Wisnicz 19 Wojnarowa 63


JRI Poland #Poland Bobowa Indexing Project #poland

Eden Joachim <esjoachim@...>
 

I have some very exciting news for Bobowa area researchers. Jewish Records
Indexing - Poland has indexed all surviving Bobowa birth and death records
in the Skolyszyn sub-branch of the Rzeszow branch of the Polish State
Archives.

The breakdown of record types and availability is:
Births: 1850, 1854, 1857-1859, 1861-1866, 1868-1870, 1872-1895
Deaths: 1877-1904

Bobowa is located at 49 42 / 20 56, about 30 km ENE of Nowy Sacz and
15 km N of Grybów.

The other surrounding towns and villages most frequently mentioned in the
Bobawa vital records are Ciezkowice, Brzana Dolna, Nowy Sacz, Zborowice,
Wojnarowa, Lipnica, Gorlice, Brzana Górna, Kasna Górna, Ostrusza, and
Falkowa. All towns appearing 10 or more times are listed at the end of
this message.

INDICES TO THE PRE-1905 RECORDS IN THE SLOLYSZYN ARCHIVES
There are 1027 birth and 637 death entries in the Bobowa records for this
period . There are 793 different surnames. The surnames with 25 or more
entries are listed below and a file with the frequency of all surnames is
available.

These are **extended** indices and include the following information:

Surname
Given Name
Father's Name
Mother's Name
Mother's Maiden Name
Year of record
Year of event
Act Number
Town (other than Bobowa when mentioned)
Comments (usually includes dates of death if event occurred while the
register was active)

These pre-1905 indices will not be publicly available online until this
project has been fully funded through contributions. The fundraising target
for these indices is $600. While a donation of any amount is greatly
appreciated, a contribution of US $50 will qualify you to be eligible to
obtain an Excel spreadsheet containing all birth and death entries prior
to 1905.

Qualified Contributors are asked to sign a Database Sharing Agreement.
Upon receipt of the agreement, qualified contributors will receive a copy
of the Excel spreadsheet file with these pre-1905 indices. The Excel file
includes a special order form enabling you to order copies of these records
directly >from the Polish State Archives.

We hope you will support the indexing of the Bobowa Vital Records for your
own research and for the benefit of future generations. Information on how
to make a donation to the Bobowa project follows below:

If you would like further information about additional Bobowa Indexing
Projects or the Surname and Town Frequency Lists please contact me
directly.

Eden Joachim
Pomona, New York
Bobowa Town Leader
JRI-Poland Bobowa Indexing Projects
Skolyszyn Archive Coordinator
ESJoachim@optonline.net

Contributions to "Jewish Records Indexing - Poland" may be made by check,
bank draft, money order, or credit card. The web site for the credit
card contribution form is www.jri-poland.org/visa.htm

Canadian contributors: see special instructions below.
Other contributors: please send your contributions to:

Jewish Records Indexing-Poland, Inc.
c/o Sheila Salo, Treasurer
5607 Greenleaf Road
Cheverly, MD 20785 USA
Tel: 1-301-341-1261
Fax: 1-810-592-1768 (24 hours)
E-Mail: ssalo@capaccess.org

Credit card contributions may also be telephoned to Sheila Salo.

Mark your contributions as follows:
For the indexing of all Bobowa records up to 1905 in the Skolyszyn Archives
(PSA). ($50 minimum contribution)

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc. is an independent U.S.non-profit
501(c)(3) organization. Contributions to JRI-Poland are tax-deductible in
the U.S. and Canada to the extent permitted by law.

Canadian contributors: to be eligible for a tax receipt, you must pay by
cheque and use the form and follow the instructions at:
www.jri-poland.org/canadianform.htm

Surnames appearing ten or more times in the pre-1905 Bobowa records
BALDINGER 14 BAUERNFREUND 13 BLAUGRUND 13
BLUM 14 BODNER 15 BRUDER 10
CELNIK 12 EIGERMANN 30 FABER 19
FALIBAUM 13 FOLKMANN 10 FREUDENFALL 10
FUEHRER 53 GELLER 29 GOLDBERG 16
GOLDFINGER 20 GOTTLOB 11 GROSS 21
HAUSMANN 39 HIRSCH 20 HIRSCHFELD 27
HOCHBERGER 81 HOENIG 10 HOLLAENDER 25
KANT 41 KOCH 12 KRAUS 11
KUCHEL 12 KUECHEL 34 KURZ 12
LINDSMANN 10 LINKER 12 MAEHR 12
METH 15 PELIKANT 10 PLATNER 57
PRESSER 51 RIEGELHAUPT 18 RING 22
ROESLER 17 ROSNER 18 SCHEINBERG 15
SCHEUER 10 SCHMERZ 11 SCHULDENFREI 27
SCHWINGER 22 STEINLAUF 11 UNSDORF 25
WEISS 11 WILDSTEIN 29 WOLF 38
ZEHNGUT 16 ZEHNGUT 11 ZIMMER 11

Towns (other than Bobowa) in all records


Bochnia 11 Bogoniewice 13 Brusnik 30 Brzana 132
Brzana Górna 35 Brzesko 18 Bukowiec 29 Ciezkowice 435
Falkowa 40 Gorlice 68 Jamna 21 Jankowa 35 Jasienna 17
Jastrzebia 42 Kasna 14 Kasna Dolna 14 Kasna Górna 43
Kraków 25 Limanowa 17 Lipnica 67 Nowy Sacz 98 Ostrusza 35
Rzepiennik 23 Sedziszowa 22 Siedliska 22 Stróze Nizne 20
Strózna 11 Tarnów 43 Wilczyska 17 Wisnicz 19 Wojnarowa 63


nationality #unitedkingdom

malcolm katz <malkikatz9361@...>
 

In answer to the nationality question asked over the
last few days.
In the late 1800's to before WW1 if a foreigner here
married a British born lady then the lady assumes the
nationality of the husband ie Russian,German etc.
If the husband dies or they divorce then the British
born lady has to re-apply for British nationality and
is registered as a re admission HO file usually HO 144
or HO 45.At this period women did not have a say in
the matter and you basicly were or did what your
husband wanted.
One of my relatives was born in Whitechapel married a
foreigner and became a Romanian citizen at marriage,At
war time as we were at war with Romania she had to
re-apply to be British otherwise she could have been
deported or detained as an enemy alien.
If a foreigner applied to be natralized the wife and
children are made British without having to apply
themselves.
It is very rare for a foreign lady to apply for
natralization on her own account before the influx of
1933 onwards refugee's.
Kind regards
Malki Katz
London


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom nationality #unitedkingdom

malcolm katz <malkikatz9361@...>
 

In answer to the nationality question asked over the
last few days.
In the late 1800's to before WW1 if a foreigner here
married a British born lady then the lady assumes the
nationality of the husband ie Russian,German etc.
If the husband dies or they divorce then the British
born lady has to re-apply for British nationality and
is registered as a re admission HO file usually HO 144
or HO 45.At this period women did not have a say in
the matter and you basicly were or did what your
husband wanted.
One of my relatives was born in Whitechapel married a
foreigner and became a Romanian citizen at marriage,At
war time as we were at war with Romania she had to
re-apply to be British otherwise she could have been
deported or detained as an enemy alien.
If a foreigner applied to be natralized the wife and
children are made British without having to apply
themselves.
It is very rare for a foreign lady to apply for
natralization on her own account before the influx of
1933 onwards refugee's.
Kind regards
Malki Katz
London