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Re: The Lack of Common Courtesy and how it affects the Usefulness of #general

anitac47@...
 

This has been a topic before.

I guess at some point you provide help for people because you can and because it is a
good or "right" (if you will) thing to do. My experience has been to nearly always have
rec'd acknowledgement. But it wouldn't matter if I did or didn't. People always respond
to my calls for assistance and that is what matters. The one good person makes up for
all of those with bad manners.

Regards,
Anita Citron
Hicksville, NY


Courtesy - one last observation #general

ssroth@...
 

Hi all,
I for one have found that occasionally important messages emailed to me
have ended up in my very active spam file. Please give folks the benefit of
the doubt that this may have happened and check those spam folders carefully
before you delete them. I am hoping that explains some of the lack of those
important 'thankyou' notes.
Sincerely,
Sheree Roth
Palo Alto, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The Lack of Common Courtesy and how it affects the Usefulness of #general

anitac47@...
 

This has been a topic before.

I guess at some point you provide help for people because you can and because it is a
good or "right" (if you will) thing to do. My experience has been to nearly always have
rec'd acknowledgement. But it wouldn't matter if I did or didn't. People always respond
to my calls for assistance and that is what matters. The one good person makes up for
all of those with bad manners.

Regards,
Anita Citron
Hicksville, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Courtesy - one last observation #general

ssroth@...
 

Hi all,
I for one have found that occasionally important messages emailed to me
have ended up in my very active spam file. Please give folks the benefit of
the doubt that this may have happened and check those spam folders carefully
before you delete them. I am hoping that explains some of the lack of those
important 'thankyou' notes.
Sincerely,
Sheree Roth
Palo Alto, CA


seeking information for GERBER Russia>Providence, RI #general

Carole and Jim Early <carjim@...>
 

my g-gf Hyman GERBER came to New York in 1885. He went Providence, RI Was
married once or perhaps twice. Had 4 children.

Carole G. Early Washington, DC carjim@vineyard.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen seeking information for GERBER Russia>Providence, RI #general

Carole and Jim Early <carjim@...>
 

my g-gf Hyman GERBER came to New York in 1885. He went Providence, RI Was
married once or perhaps twice. Had 4 children.

Carole G. Early Washington, DC carjim@vineyard.net


Re: The Lack of Common Courtesy and how it affects the Usefulness of this Forum #general

AK <alan.kolnik@...>
 

I have usually received tahnks and follow up. What is bizarre is that a
couple of days ago I received a nasty flame >from some genealogy
perfectionist who needs to get a life because I had answered a query about
Jewish origins by pointing out some websites with maps that trace Jewish
miogration patterns.

So not getting a response is not the worst thing that can happen ...

Alan Kolnik
alan.kolnik@verizon.net
Maryland, USA


Re: The lack of common courtesy #general

Yehudh bn Shlmo
 

Dear group,

I would like to say one thing before someone
terminates this thread. I myself always send a reply
and "thank you" whether the information is useful or
not. However, I normally only look at messages that I
am interested in, or that have the same subject I
posted to the group. If someone responds with a
different subject, I may miss it. And yes, I once
found a response in my Trash bin that I had not looked
at. But I am a member of a lot of groups and can't
open and read every email.

The point is, is that it is possible that some
reposes may not be looked at if the subject isn't the
same. However for all those that are read, a response
and thank you is certainly appropriate.

Finally, whether you get thanked or not for a
response that is useful or not, you still perfumed a
Mitzvah, which is what it is all about.

With thanks for giving me the opportunity to reply,
Yehudah BenShlomo


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The Lack of Common Courtesy and how it affects the Usefulness of this Forum #general

AK <alan.kolnik@...>
 

I have usually received tahnks and follow up. What is bizarre is that a
couple of days ago I received a nasty flame >from some genealogy
perfectionist who needs to get a life because I had answered a query about
Jewish origins by pointing out some websites with maps that trace Jewish
miogration patterns.

So not getting a response is not the worst thing that can happen ...

Alan Kolnik
alan.kolnik@verizon.net
Maryland, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The lack of common courtesy #general

Yehudh bn Shlmo
 

Dear group,

I would like to say one thing before someone
terminates this thread. I myself always send a reply
and "thank you" whether the information is useful or
not. However, I normally only look at messages that I
am interested in, or that have the same subject I
posted to the group. If someone responds with a
different subject, I may miss it. And yes, I once
found a response in my Trash bin that I had not looked
at. But I am a member of a lot of groups and can't
open and read every email.

The point is, is that it is possible that some
reposes may not be looked at if the subject isn't the
same. However for all those that are read, a response
and thank you is certainly appropriate.

Finally, whether you get thanked or not for a
response that is useful or not, you still perfumed a
Mitzvah, which is what it is all about.

With thanks for giving me the opportunity to reply,
Yehudah BenShlomo


response to request for help #general

Charles Mahler
 

Hello Everybody,
Dave Schwartz complained about "the Lack of Common Courtesy and how it
affects the Usefulness of this Forum". My personnal experience is quite
different and but for one or two exceptions I allways got a "thank you"
note. Not that I believe that a thank you is absolutely necessary.
So let us go on with helping each other whenever possible.
Best regards
Charles Mahler
Antwerp Belgium
still looking for MAHLER, LICHTMANN, MARGULIES and INTRATOR


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen response to request for help #general

Charles Mahler
 

Hello Everybody,
Dave Schwartz complained about "the Lack of Common Courtesy and how it
affects the Usefulness of this Forum". My personnal experience is quite
different and but for one or two exceptions I allways got a "thank you"
note. Not that I believe that a thank you is absolutely necessary.
So let us go on with helping each other whenever possible.
Best regards
Charles Mahler
Antwerp Belgium
still looking for MAHLER, LICHTMANN, MARGULIES and INTRATOR


To All The People Who Make JewishGen Wonderful.......Thank you! #general

carols
 

Joan, I've never asked you for genealogy info but I've read your
comments soo many times to other genners and genners in general. You
are so knowledgeable and helpful. I can't imagine anyone looking for
info and getting it not being grateful! But, that's what makes up horse
racing, as they say!!! Thanks for all your comments that I have been
privileged to read because of this fabulous web site. And, to all of
you out there, thank you for all you do and know!!
Regards >from Carol Streem of Cleveland, Ohio
SOLONTS/SALANT...Minsk.
FRENKEL/FRANKEL....Lomza SMOLINSKY....Lomza.
KANOVITCH/KANOWITZ/KANOFITZ/KENN....Lomza
STRIMOVSKY/STREEM.....Kremenchug.
GRUNBAUM/GREENBAUM....Lodz/Copenhagen. CHARNEY/CHARNA.......Kremenchug.

Joan Parker wrote:

Sadly, it happens to too many of us. Recently a genner asked me about
Gelfand and Katz saying she had those two names in her tree....so I
sent what I had....never a reply, never yes we have a connection, no
we don't, absolutely nothing. I sent her another email checking to
see if she had received the information...no answer to that either.

Will her lack of response stop me >from responding to others? Not at all.
Hope springs eternal and maybe one day someone to whom I send family info
will respond with a positive connection. Same applies to providing how-to
info or finding something for somebody. Do unto others...equals random
acts of genealogical kindness.

Requesting a read receipt is not always returned as there is the ability
to refuse to send one.

Happily, I can say that most other genners are courteous and thankful for
whatever help I've been able to provide. Not only that, but it has ended
up with some new email friends whom I hope to meet in Las Vegas as well as
other email friends throughout the world.


Re: The Lack of Common Courtesy and how it affects the Usefulness of #general

jerome schatten
 

Merle Kastner wrote:

Dear Dave,
I'm sorry to hear that your experiences have been
so disappointing, especially since my own have been
just the opposite.
Over the years, I've helped a lot of people, mostly by replying
privately, and have always heard back >from them with gratitude.

Unfortunately, it's that small minority with poor manners who spoil
things for those who have good ones. I hope
you are not too discouraged to try again and that your
future experiences are positive.

Best of luck,
Merle Kastner
Hi Merle... I've had similar experiences to Dave's but on the
Czernowitz list. Mine were always with newcomers: Someone would show up
on the list and ask for information; I would provide it, and that would
be the last I or the list ever heard >from them.

I've never experienced the problem >from well integrated list members.
Perhaps Dave's non-respondents were just getting their feet wet both in
genealogy and in net-etiquette?

My strategy these days is to reply off list suggesting what information
I have and asking if they would be interested in receiving it. That
immediately forces a more personal relationship upon the requester.
Seems to work better.

Best,
Jerome Schatten
Vancouver


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen To All The People Who Make JewishGen Wonderful.......Thank you! #general

carols
 

Joan, I've never asked you for genealogy info but I've read your
comments soo many times to other genners and genners in general. You
are so knowledgeable and helpful. I can't imagine anyone looking for
info and getting it not being grateful! But, that's what makes up horse
racing, as they say!!! Thanks for all your comments that I have been
privileged to read because of this fabulous web site. And, to all of
you out there, thank you for all you do and know!!
Regards >from Carol Streem of Cleveland, Ohio
SOLONTS/SALANT...Minsk.
FRENKEL/FRANKEL....Lomza SMOLINSKY....Lomza.
KANOVITCH/KANOWITZ/KANOFITZ/KENN....Lomza
STRIMOVSKY/STREEM.....Kremenchug.
GRUNBAUM/GREENBAUM....Lodz/Copenhagen. CHARNEY/CHARNA.......Kremenchug.

Joan Parker wrote:

Sadly, it happens to too many of us. Recently a genner asked me about
Gelfand and Katz saying she had those two names in her tree....so I
sent what I had....never a reply, never yes we have a connection, no
we don't, absolutely nothing. I sent her another email checking to
see if she had received the information...no answer to that either.

Will her lack of response stop me >from responding to others? Not at all.
Hope springs eternal and maybe one day someone to whom I send family info
will respond with a positive connection. Same applies to providing how-to
info or finding something for somebody. Do unto others...equals random
acts of genealogical kindness.

Requesting a read receipt is not always returned as there is the ability
to refuse to send one.

Happily, I can say that most other genners are courteous and thankful for
whatever help I've been able to provide. Not only that, but it has ended
up with some new email friends whom I hope to meet in Las Vegas as well as
other email friends throughout the world.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The Lack of Common Courtesy and how it affects the Usefulness of #general

jerome schatten
 

Merle Kastner wrote:

Dear Dave,
I'm sorry to hear that your experiences have been
so disappointing, especially since my own have been
just the opposite.
Over the years, I've helped a lot of people, mostly by replying
privately, and have always heard back >from them with gratitude.

Unfortunately, it's that small minority with poor manners who spoil
things for those who have good ones. I hope
you are not too discouraged to try again and that your
future experiences are positive.

Best of luck,
Merle Kastner
Hi Merle... I've had similar experiences to Dave's but on the
Czernowitz list. Mine were always with newcomers: Someone would show up
on the list and ask for information; I would provide it, and that would
be the last I or the list ever heard >from them.

I've never experienced the problem >from well integrated list members.
Perhaps Dave's non-respondents were just getting their feet wet both in
genealogy and in net-etiquette?

My strategy these days is to reply off list suggesting what information
I have and asking if they would be interested in receiving it. That
immediately forces a more personal relationship upon the requester.
Seems to work better.

Best,
Jerome Schatten
Vancouver


Information on Csenger, Szatmar/Satu Mare and UNSDORFER #general

S.B. Goitein <sbgoitein@...>
 

Dear Genners

I am trying to trace my ancestry on my mother's side. Her maiden name was
Unsdorfer and her father (my grandfather) came >from Pressburg/Bratislava,
Czech. Up until recently I had believed that his father, my
great-grandfather Unsdorfer, was born in Gutta, known today as Kolarovo.
However, a recent visit to the Yad Vashem website revealed that he might
actually have been born in Csenger, Szatmar. I visited the NY Library online
where they have a Csenger Yizkor book, but his name was not there. It could
be that they moved >from Csenger to Gutta after he was born. However, I seem
to have come to a dead end.

If anyone has information about Csenger, has Unsdorfer in the family/friends
or has any advice/ information on how I could best pursue this quest, I
would be very grateful for any help.

Please respond privately.

Many thanks in advance.

Michael Goitein
London
sbgoitein@seed.uk.net

MODERATOR NOTE: For best results, we suggest that you post this query in
JewishGen's Austria-Czech SIG (Special Interest Group) mailing list. For more
information, go to <http://www.jewishgen.org/AustriaCzech/>.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Information on Csenger, Szatmar/Satu Mare and UNSDORFER #general

S.B. Goitein <sbgoitein@...>
 

Dear Genners

I am trying to trace my ancestry on my mother's side. Her maiden name was
Unsdorfer and her father (my grandfather) came >from Pressburg/Bratislava,
Czech. Up until recently I had believed that his father, my
great-grandfather Unsdorfer, was born in Gutta, known today as Kolarovo.
However, a recent visit to the Yad Vashem website revealed that he might
actually have been born in Csenger, Szatmar. I visited the NY Library online
where they have a Csenger Yizkor book, but his name was not there. It could
be that they moved >from Csenger to Gutta after he was born. However, I seem
to have come to a dead end.

If anyone has information about Csenger, has Unsdorfer in the family/friends
or has any advice/ information on how I could best pursue this quest, I
would be very grateful for any help.

Please respond privately.

Many thanks in advance.

Michael Goitein
London
sbgoitein@seed.uk.net

MODERATOR NOTE: For best results, we suggest that you post this query in
JewishGen's Austria-Czech SIG (Special Interest Group) mailing list. For more
information, go to <http://www.jewishgen.org/AustriaCzech/>.


Seeking Guide for Travel in Slovakia #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

I'm going to be visiting Slovakia in August and am looking for a
Slovak-speaking translator /driver to help with work at archives and
visits to cemeteries in Michalovce, Sobrance, and surrounding
communities. Please contact me off-list for details.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA


1910 Hungarian Census #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

Has anyone come across records >from the 1910 Hungarian Census. It
hasn't been filmed by the FHL and I haven't been able to find any
references in the Hungarian State Archives catalogue. Is there a
100-year restriction on release of information?

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA