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Re: Goldsteins, Schonfelds, Berliners #hungary

moishe@langsam.com <moishe@...>
 

Dear Group (and especially Melody, Touvia & Hallie),

This tree seems to have a connection to my research. The
name Chana Mindel was the name of the wife of the Bnei
Yissoschur, R' Hersh Mylech SPIRA (1783 - 1841). They had a
son-in-law named Moshe Schonfeld (1810 - c.1883). It would
seem that your Moshe Schonfeld, born before 1883 (much
before), would not be >from this line, based on common
Ashkenazik naming caonventions of not naming after living
ancestors.

Perhaps, these Schonfleds in your tree were related to the
Schonfelds in my tree. Perhaps further, someone in this
line DID in fact marry into the Bnei Yissochur line
(indicated by the existence of the Chana Mindel name in
your tree), but just not >from the line of Sara Spira
married to Moshe Schonfeld (1810 - c.1883). The Bnei
Yissoschur had 7 known children (see the page at:
http://www.ics.uci.edu/~dan/genealogy/Miller/spira/spira.htm
for more detail). Maybe your line married into one of the
other six lines.

Your thoughts would be welcome.

Moishe Miller
moishe@langsam.com
Brooklyn, NY
On Sat, 21 May 2005 12:25:15 -0700
Hallie Feldman <hallie@twincreeks.net> wrote:
I put a tree >from 1991 on my personal webpage.

If you go to www/twincreeks.net/gallery

under Hallie's albums, there is one marked genealogy.

In the genealogy album, the first three pages are
pictures. Pages 4 and 5 are a tree which Touvia
Goldstein made in 1991. It has birth and death dates and
other information I am not finding elsewhere.

It includes information on the siblings of Moishe
Schonfeld.

Thanks,
Hallie Feldman


Searching in Israel for Hillman Schacherl #hungary

elena schacherl <elenasc@...>
 

Hello to everyone,

While searching the Internet I came across a reference to an Israeli artist
named Jane (Yana) Hillman Schacherl who was born in Vienna in 1913. This is
the same year and place of birth of my great aunt Szeren Schacherl's
daughter.

Can anyone suggest how I might find out if this daughter is still alive and
if so how she might be located? The only white pages for Israel seem to be
available only in Hebrew which I can't read. Jane(Yana) won the Jerusalem
Prize in 1945. Would anyone know if that necessarily means she lived in
Jerusalem?

Would appreciate any help that anyone may be able to provide with this.

Elena Schacherl,

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

SEARCHING: SCHACHERL, STEINFELD, SCHACH, GRUNE, POLLAK


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Goldsteins, Schonfelds, Berliners #hungary

moishe@langsam.com <moishe@...>
 

Dear Group (and especially Melody, Touvia & Hallie),

This tree seems to have a connection to my research. The
name Chana Mindel was the name of the wife of the Bnei
Yissoschur, R' Hersh Mylech SPIRA (1783 - 1841). They had a
son-in-law named Moshe Schonfeld (1810 - c.1883). It would
seem that your Moshe Schonfeld, born before 1883 (much
before), would not be >from this line, based on common
Ashkenazik naming caonventions of not naming after living
ancestors.

Perhaps, these Schonfleds in your tree were related to the
Schonfelds in my tree. Perhaps further, someone in this
line DID in fact marry into the Bnei Yissochur line
(indicated by the existence of the Chana Mindel name in
your tree), but just not >from the line of Sara Spira
married to Moshe Schonfeld (1810 - c.1883). The Bnei
Yissoschur had 7 known children (see the page at:
http://www.ics.uci.edu/~dan/genealogy/Miller/spira/spira.htm
for more detail). Maybe your line married into one of the
other six lines.

Your thoughts would be welcome.

Moishe Miller
moishe@langsam.com
Brooklyn, NY
On Sat, 21 May 2005 12:25:15 -0700
Hallie Feldman <hallie@twincreeks.net> wrote:
I put a tree >from 1991 on my personal webpage.

If you go to www/twincreeks.net/gallery

under Hallie's albums, there is one marked genealogy.

In the genealogy album, the first three pages are
pictures. Pages 4 and 5 are a tree which Touvia
Goldstein made in 1991. It has birth and death dates and
other information I am not finding elsewhere.

It includes information on the siblings of Moishe
Schonfeld.

Thanks,
Hallie Feldman


Hungary SIG #Hungary Searching in Israel for Hillman Schacherl #hungary

elena schacherl <elenasc@...>
 

Hello to everyone,

While searching the Internet I came across a reference to an Israeli artist
named Jane (Yana) Hillman Schacherl who was born in Vienna in 1913. This is
the same year and place of birth of my great aunt Szeren Schacherl's
daughter.

Can anyone suggest how I might find out if this daughter is still alive and
if so how she might be located? The only white pages for Israel seem to be
available only in Hebrew which I can't read. Jane(Yana) won the Jerusalem
Prize in 1945. Would anyone know if that necessarily means she lived in
Jerusalem?

Would appreciate any help that anyone may be able to provide with this.

Elena Schacherl,

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

SEARCHING: SCHACHERL, STEINFELD, SCHACH, GRUNE, POLLAK


WWI field records for the 36th Infantry Division, 61st Brigade, 133rd Field Artillery #general

Dottie Miller
 

A few weeks ago, there were 2 e-mails in the Discussion Group about WWI
field records. Neither applied to the specific time frame or U.S. Army
unit that I am researching. The one I am seeking is the Texas National
Guard >from Camp Bowie, 36th Regiment, 133d Field Artillery.

Your help in directing me to actual filed records may lead us to solving
a family mystery. Also, any information you may have about the recorded
discharge during WWI of mustard-gassed soldiers as being "in good"
condition" would help me with the following mystery.

My maternal great-uncle Lehman (Lee) Dreyfus served in the U.S. Army
during WWI. I have a copy of his discharge papers in which it is stated
that he left service in "good condition." My grandmother who was his
sister and my aunt shared with me the story that Uncle Lee was injured
by mustard gas and never regained his strength and intellectual
capacity. And because of his impaired health, he never again traveled
from his home in Kansas to visit his sisters in Texas. His sisters were
absolutely not the kind of women who held grudges or fought with family
so their version makes sense to me. The granddaughter of Lee, however,
maintains that her grandfather was not impaired at all and sent
discharge papers as proof. Thus, the actual field reports may hold the
key to this mystery.

Lee Dreyfus enlisted July 4, 1917 in Ft. Worth, TX, discharged by Major
A. L. Ward,133rd Field Artillery and by First Lt. William B. Miller,
Supply Company, April 2, 1919. Lee Dreyfus "participated in three naval
battles Aug. 11, 1918, left U.S. July 31, 1918, arrived overseas Aug.
12, 1918. Left France March 9, 1919. Arrived in U.S. A. March 20, 1919."

Thank you in advance for any help that you can provide.

Best regards,

Dottie Miller


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen WWI field records for the 36th Infantry Division, 61st Brigade, 133rd Field Artillery #general

Dottie Miller
 

A few weeks ago, there were 2 e-mails in the Discussion Group about WWI
field records. Neither applied to the specific time frame or U.S. Army
unit that I am researching. The one I am seeking is the Texas National
Guard >from Camp Bowie, 36th Regiment, 133d Field Artillery.

Your help in directing me to actual filed records may lead us to solving
a family mystery. Also, any information you may have about the recorded
discharge during WWI of mustard-gassed soldiers as being "in good"
condition" would help me with the following mystery.

My maternal great-uncle Lehman (Lee) Dreyfus served in the U.S. Army
during WWI. I have a copy of his discharge papers in which it is stated
that he left service in "good condition." My grandmother who was his
sister and my aunt shared with me the story that Uncle Lee was injured
by mustard gas and never regained his strength and intellectual
capacity. And because of his impaired health, he never again traveled
from his home in Kansas to visit his sisters in Texas. His sisters were
absolutely not the kind of women who held grudges or fought with family
so their version makes sense to me. The granddaughter of Lee, however,
maintains that her grandfather was not impaired at all and sent
discharge papers as proof. Thus, the actual field reports may hold the
key to this mystery.

Lee Dreyfus enlisted July 4, 1917 in Ft. Worth, TX, discharged by Major
A. L. Ward,133rd Field Artillery and by First Lt. William B. Miller,
Supply Company, April 2, 1919. Lee Dreyfus "participated in three naval
battles Aug. 11, 1918, left U.S. July 31, 1918, arrived overseas Aug.
12, 1918. Left France March 9, 1919. Arrived in U.S. A. March 20, 1919."

Thank you in advance for any help that you can provide.

Best regards,

Dottie Miller


BOGASLAVSKY family #general

Dottie Miller
 

Recently, there was a posting regarding BOGOSLAVSKY >from Chernigov, Ukraine.
The family included Nokhim Salomon ZURNOVSKY BOGOSLAVSKY, between 1894
and 1896. He had nine sisters and brothers, Liova, David, Boris, Misha, Nuna,
Dvoira, Jifim, ?.

In my family, I have Rueven BOGASLAVSKY, born in 1824, father of
Abraham, Nechama (born 1859), and Dora (born 1864)BOGASLAVSKY in Russia.
Nechama married a man documented to have been been born in, grew up in
and emigrated >from Khmelyuv, Romen County, Poltava Gubernia, Ukraine,
Russia, sometimes spelled " Chmelov." All three BOGASLAVSKY siblings
immigrated to Indianapolis, Indiana, USA, around 1900. All documentation
that I have been able to find so far only indicates that they were >from
"Russia." The family oral history was that the BOGASLAVSKYs came >from
what is now Ukraine.

Here's my question, is there any relationship between the names "Nokhim"
and "Nechama"? I know "Dvoira" and "Dora" are related names but so
common that I can't seriously consider these names as a link between my
BOGASLAVKSY ancestor and those of the recent poster. Other first names
in my BOGASLAVSKY were Louis (used for a few different cousins), Jean,
Leo, Dorothy and Dora, Fannie, Rueben, Beatrice (used twice), Leona, and
Irving.

I welcome any comments about names and about finding the place of birth
of my BOGASLAVSKY family.

Thanks in advance,

Dottie Miller
San Antonio, TX USA

JACOBSON >from Vilna; SEREINSKY >from Russia and Indianapolis,IN; BOGASLAVSKY
from Russia and Indianapolis,IN; UNNER >from Baden,Germany and Portland,OR;
GUGGENHEIMER >from Ihringen and Breisach,Germany and New Orleans, LA;
DREYFUS >from Brumath and Duppigheim,France; MEYER >from Goersdorf,France;
WEIL >from Bretten, Eichstetten in Germany and Washington, LA and Luling, TX


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BOGASLAVSKY family #general

Dottie Miller
 

Recently, there was a posting regarding BOGOSLAVSKY >from Chernigov, Ukraine.
The family included Nokhim Salomon ZURNOVSKY BOGOSLAVSKY, between 1894
and 1896. He had nine sisters and brothers, Liova, David, Boris, Misha, Nuna,
Dvoira, Jifim, ?.

In my family, I have Rueven BOGASLAVSKY, born in 1824, father of
Abraham, Nechama (born 1859), and Dora (born 1864)BOGASLAVSKY in Russia.
Nechama married a man documented to have been been born in, grew up in
and emigrated >from Khmelyuv, Romen County, Poltava Gubernia, Ukraine,
Russia, sometimes spelled " Chmelov." All three BOGASLAVSKY siblings
immigrated to Indianapolis, Indiana, USA, around 1900. All documentation
that I have been able to find so far only indicates that they were >from
"Russia." The family oral history was that the BOGASLAVSKYs came >from
what is now Ukraine.

Here's my question, is there any relationship between the names "Nokhim"
and "Nechama"? I know "Dvoira" and "Dora" are related names but so
common that I can't seriously consider these names as a link between my
BOGASLAVKSY ancestor and those of the recent poster. Other first names
in my BOGASLAVSKY were Louis (used for a few different cousins), Jean,
Leo, Dorothy and Dora, Fannie, Rueben, Beatrice (used twice), Leona, and
Irving.

I welcome any comments about names and about finding the place of birth
of my BOGASLAVSKY family.

Thanks in advance,

Dottie Miller
San Antonio, TX USA

JACOBSON >from Vilna; SEREINSKY >from Russia and Indianapolis,IN; BOGASLAVSKY
from Russia and Indianapolis,IN; UNNER >from Baden,Germany and Portland,OR;
GUGGENHEIMER >from Ihringen and Breisach,Germany and New Orleans, LA;
DREYFUS >from Brumath and Duppigheim,France; MEYER >from Goersdorf,France;
WEIL >from Bretten, Eichstetten in Germany and Washington, LA and Luling, TX


one more last thing about courtesy #general

Irene Newhouse <einew@...>
 

I'm responding to the comments of people who mention spam & spam filters in
regard to a lack of thank you notes.

In these days of spam, if you are the one originating a request, you can't
use a generic topic like "Hi" or no subject! I get too many spam messages
my spam filter doesn't catch that start that way. You *must* use an
eye-catching subject like "Are our XXX families related?" Or "ancestors >from
YYY" where YYY is the place of interest. *And* if you're asking for
information, turn off your spam blocker!!! I personally rather resent
having to fill out an electronic form so that someone who has asked me for
help can receive my reply. To such an extent that I won't do it any more.

I'm a ShtetLinks coordinator & I use hotmail. Yes, my email's a spam
magnet. But I have my spam settings set fairly loosely anyway, so that
strangers can get to me. It's the price I choose to pay for the opportunity
to make contact with long-lost cousins.

Irene Newhouse


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen one more last thing about courtesy #general

Irene Newhouse <einew@...>
 

I'm responding to the comments of people who mention spam & spam filters in
regard to a lack of thank you notes.

In these days of spam, if you are the one originating a request, you can't
use a generic topic like "Hi" or no subject! I get too many spam messages
my spam filter doesn't catch that start that way. You *must* use an
eye-catching subject like "Are our XXX families related?" Or "ancestors >from
YYY" where YYY is the place of interest. *And* if you're asking for
information, turn off your spam blocker!!! I personally rather resent
having to fill out an electronic form so that someone who has asked me for
help can receive my reply. To such an extent that I won't do it any more.

I'm a ShtetLinks coordinator & I use hotmail. Yes, my email's a spam
magnet. But I have my spam settings set fairly loosely anyway, so that
strangers can get to me. It's the price I choose to pay for the opportunity
to make contact with long-lost cousins.

Irene Newhouse


The Name Dacha #general

hekenvin@...
 

We have a Dacha in our family whose name is a "kinui" or nickname for Hadassah.

Helene Kenvin


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The Name Dacha #general

hekenvin@...
 

We have a Dacha in our family whose name is a "kinui" or nickname for Hadassah.

Helene Kenvin


information on "missing" relatives #southafrica

The Freedmans <adrianf@...>
 

Dear Sirs
I am trying to find information concerning family of :
Sam Katz (wife Bernice) and his sister Libby( Katz) Wolfson -wife of
Henry -I think
The families lived in Israel, but were originally >from Port Elizabeth SA
Perhaps also >from the O F S The original surname of Sam and Libby was
Freedman(Freeman?) They were first cousins of my father Berel

Adrian Freedman


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica information on "missing" relatives #southafrica

The Freedmans <adrianf@...>
 

Dear Sirs
I am trying to find information concerning family of :
Sam Katz (wife Bernice) and his sister Libby( Katz) Wolfson -wife of
Henry -I think
The families lived in Israel, but were originally >from Port Elizabeth SA
Perhaps also >from the O F S The original surname of Sam and Libby was
Freedman(Freeman?) They were first cousins of my father Berel

Adrian Freedman


estates near Grobin in Kurland #latvia #courland

koshka <koshkacats@...>
 

Hi,

I just received wonderful information >from the Latvian Archives. They said
my Great-Grandfather, David Greenspon, lived near Grobin (which is in
Kurland) for more than 20 years. He first lived in the inn-house Staben of
the Bukamens estate and then moved to estate Mezheneken.

Does anyone have any information or clues about these estates?

It also says he lived in the "Oberbartau volost of the Grobin district" in
one place and "near Grobin" in another.

Was Grobin both a town and a district?

Is Oberbartau another term for Libau?

Thank you very much for any help and suggestions. I'm going to Latvia in
the Spring and trying to get as much information as possible.

Best Regards,

Polina Olsen
koshkacats@comcast.net
Portland, Oregon


Re: Cemeteries in South Africa #southafrica

Beryl. B <balden@...>
 

re Cemeteries in S.A.

Thanks Richard for clarifying this matter and thanks
also for taking the iniative of improving the Cemeteries.
Perhaps when this has been completed you can
do a write-up for our SIG Cemeteries webpage?

Beryl Baleson
Israel.
balden@zahav.net.il


Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia estates near Grobin in Kurland #courland #latvia

koshka <koshkacats@...>
 

Hi,

I just received wonderful information >from the Latvian Archives. They said
my Great-Grandfather, David Greenspon, lived near Grobin (which is in
Kurland) for more than 20 years. He first lived in the inn-house Staben of
the Bukamens estate and then moved to estate Mezheneken.

Does anyone have any information or clues about these estates?

It also says he lived in the "Oberbartau volost of the Grobin district" in
one place and "near Grobin" in another.

Was Grobin both a town and a district?

Is Oberbartau another term for Libau?

Thank you very much for any help and suggestions. I'm going to Latvia in
the Spring and trying to get as much information as possible.

Best Regards,

Polina Olsen
koshkacats@comcast.net
Portland, Oregon


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: Cemeteries in South Africa #southafrica

Beryl. B <balden@...>
 

re Cemeteries in S.A.

Thanks Richard for clarifying this matter and thanks
also for taking the iniative of improving the Cemeteries.
Perhaps when this has been completed you can
do a write-up for our SIG Cemeteries webpage?

Beryl Baleson
Israel.
balden@zahav.net.il


* Books about the Holocaust #austria-czech

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear all,
I came across a very interesting set of books related to the Holocaust,
mainly in the Czech Republic and Poland, but also in Slovakia and Hungary.
You might be interested in it. See:
http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?vci=257778&kn=holocaust
Regards
Tom
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech * Books about the Holocaust #austria-czech

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear all,
I came across a very interesting set of books related to the Holocaust,
mainly in the Czech Republic and Poland, but also in Slovakia and Hungary.
You might be interested in it. See:
http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?vci=257778&kn=holocaust
Regards
Tom
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil