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Re: Online phone book for Herzlia, Israel - research Pollak #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Mon, 30 May 2005 21:04:25 UTC, polyakp@samaramail.ru opined:

Dear all,
I am asking a help to find the internet phonebook of city Hertzlia of
State Israel.
Research: POLLAK, MOSKOVICS-Romania (Petrova, Maramures and Oradea);
GRENWALD-Ashdod (Israel or US).
Best regards, Peter Polyak e-mail:Polyakp@samaramail.ru
There is no online telephone directory specifically for Herzlia or any other
location in Israel. Like online directories for other countries, there is a
single directory for the entire country. Its URL is:
< http://www.144.bezek.com/ >.

Note that it is in Hebrew only, often loads at a glacial speed, and is tarted
up to an amateurish extent with Flash frames. Other than that, it is very
usable.
--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Online phone book for Herzlia, Israel - research Pollak #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Mon, 30 May 2005 21:04:25 UTC, polyakp@samaramail.ru opined:

Dear all,
I am asking a help to find the internet phonebook of city Hertzlia of
State Israel.
Research: POLLAK, MOSKOVICS-Romania (Petrova, Maramures and Oradea);
GRENWALD-Ashdod (Israel or US).
Best regards, Peter Polyak e-mail:Polyakp@samaramail.ru
There is no online telephone directory specifically for Herzlia or any other
location in Israel. Like online directories for other countries, there is a
single directory for the entire country. Its URL is:
< http://www.144.bezek.com/ >.

Note that it is in Hebrew only, often loads at a glacial speed, and is tarted
up to an amateurish extent with Flash frames. Other than that, it is very
usable.
--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

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Re: Shtetls of Podolia (1883) #ukraine

Israel P
 

This is a very interesting list and I thank you for posting it. My own interests are in
several towns in Bratslav Uyezd, where apparently some of my Skalaters went,
possibly on the way elsewhere.

Are the names of these males listed anywhere?

Israel Pickholtz

I would like to present the following list of 140
Shtetls in the 12 Uyezds of Podolia Guberniya as a
POSSIBLY comprehensive list of all (or most) of the
Shtetls of Podolia Guberniya that existed in 1883.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Shtetls of Podolia (1883) #ukraine

Israel P
 

This is a very interesting list and I thank you for posting it. My own interests are in
several towns in Bratslav Uyezd, where apparently some of my Skalaters went,
possibly on the way elsewhere.

Are the names of these males listed anywhere?

Israel Pickholtz

I would like to present the following list of 140
Shtetls in the 12 Uyezds of Podolia Guberniya as a
POSSIBLY comprehensive list of all (or most) of the
Shtetls of Podolia Guberniya that existed in 1883.


Kinuim #lithuania

Chaim freedman
 

Yekhezkel is a Biblical name with a diminutive form Khatzkel.

Fayvush or Faivel are the kinuim of Shraga.

There is no connection between them.

Chaim Freedman
Petah Tikvah, Israel
chaimjan@zahav.net.il


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Kinuim #lithuania

Chaim freedman
 

Yekhezkel is a Biblical name with a diminutive form Khatzkel.

Fayvush or Faivel are the kinuim of Shraga.

There is no connection between them.

Chaim Freedman
Petah Tikvah, Israel
chaimjan@zahav.net.il


Re: 1936-1939 #unitedkingdom

Jill Whitehead
 

Re refugees. I found an article in the Scotsman archive >from 1st April
1939, about Czech refugees the British government tried to turn back at
Croydon Airport, South London (some were sent back, some allowed to stay).
It seems ;-

1) you had to be sponsored by a Refugee Committee to be allowed to stay,
2) prove you already had relations in this country who could vouch for you,
and
3) prove you had enough money to live independently.Or
4) you had to prove you were on your way elsewhere eg. USA.

Jill Whitehead (I live near the old Croydon airport - now a housing estate)


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: 1936-1939 #unitedkingdom

Jill Whitehead
 

Re refugees. I found an article in the Scotsman archive >from 1st April
1939, about Czech refugees the British government tried to turn back at
Croydon Airport, South London (some were sent back, some allowed to stay).
It seems ;-

1) you had to be sponsored by a Refugee Committee to be allowed to stay,
2) prove you already had relations in this country who could vouch for you,
and
3) prove you had enough money to live independently.Or
4) you had to prove you were on your way elsewhere eg. USA.

Jill Whitehead (I live near the old Croydon airport - now a housing estate)


Hungarians, Austrians in UK 1936-39 #unitedkingdom

MBernet@...
 

I assume your friend was born before 1918. In that case he (and a
Galizian or Czech) would have been classified by the security people at the
British Home Office by his nationality at birth, i.e., as "Austrian," and
subjected to the same rules and conditions as an Austrian, i.e., exactly like
a German Jew.

You know, now, that it would have been a safer place, but I doubt your
relative would have believed that at the time with the same full certainty. He
may have gone to France to help relatives escape >from danger under the Nazis.
Portugal was the choice of European Jews who were fleeing to the United
States or to South America.

Michael Bernet, New York
www.mem-Ber.net
(http://www.mem-Ber.net)


Shtetls of Podolia (1883) #ukraine

Eliana Aizim
 

Dear Genners:

<Nathen Gabriel wrote: I would like to present the following
list of 140 Shtetls in the 12 Uyezds of Podolia Guberniya as
a POSSIBLY comprehensive list of all (or most) of the
Shtetls of Podolia Guberniya that existed in 1883 ... Please
address any additions or corrections to the entire Ukraine
SIG.>

Correction: in Olgopol Uyezd, shtetl Peschana should be
Peschanka.

Addition: shtetl Kryzhopol is missing.

Eliana AIZIM
from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Searching:
AISEN, AIZEN, AISIN: Yekaterinoslav Gub, Ukraine/
Argentina/ Brazil; GUREVICH: Yekaterinoslav Gub,
Ukraine/ USA; VATNICK, VAITMAN (& var), WHITE:
Podolia Gub, Ukraine/ Toronto, Canada/ Brazil;
AVERBUCH: Podolia Gub, Ukraine/ Brazil.


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Hungarians, Austrians in UK 1936-39 #unitedkingdom

MBernet@...
 

I assume your friend was born before 1918. In that case he (and a
Galizian or Czech) would have been classified by the security people at the
British Home Office by his nationality at birth, i.e., as "Austrian," and
subjected to the same rules and conditions as an Austrian, i.e., exactly like
a German Jew.

You know, now, that it would have been a safer place, but I doubt your
relative would have believed that at the time with the same full certainty. He
may have gone to France to help relatives escape >from danger under the Nazis.
Portugal was the choice of European Jews who were fleeing to the United
States or to South America.

Michael Bernet, New York
www.mem-Ber.net
(http://www.mem-Ber.net)


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Shtetls of Podolia (1883) #ukraine

Eliana Aizim
 

Dear Genners:

<Nathen Gabriel wrote: I would like to present the following
list of 140 Shtetls in the 12 Uyezds of Podolia Guberniya as
a POSSIBLY comprehensive list of all (or most) of the
Shtetls of Podolia Guberniya that existed in 1883 ... Please
address any additions or corrections to the entire Ukraine
SIG.>

Correction: in Olgopol Uyezd, shtetl Peschana should be
Peschanka.

Addition: shtetl Kryzhopol is missing.

Eliana AIZIM
from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Searching:
AISEN, AIZEN, AISIN: Yekaterinoslav Gub, Ukraine/
Argentina/ Brazil; GUREVICH: Yekaterinoslav Gub,
Ukraine/ USA; VATNICK, VAITMAN (& var), WHITE:
Podolia Gub, Ukraine/ Toronto, Canada/ Brazil;
AVERBUCH: Podolia Gub, Ukraine/ Brazil.


My Anerican surname is Yarus #ukraine

Gary Yarus <gpyarus@...>
 

My American surname is YARUS.

My paternal grandfather supposedly came >from Belaya Tserkov near Kiev in
the Ukraine. He made his way to the US around 1900 landing in
Philadelphia. At least that is what I have been told.

I believe my original family name was Yaroslavsky or Yaruslavsky or
maybe Yaruslovsky.

What original name is most likely? Or perhaps is some other variant more
plausible?

I am a novice genealogists, using primarily the services of
Ancestry.com. I would appreciate suggestions how I might research my
family origins more thoroughly.

Many thanks,
Gary Yarus


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine My Anerican surname is Yarus #ukraine

Gary Yarus <gpyarus@...>
 

My American surname is YARUS.

My paternal grandfather supposedly came >from Belaya Tserkov near Kiev in
the Ukraine. He made his way to the US around 1900 landing in
Philadelphia. At least that is what I have been told.

I believe my original family name was Yaroslavsky or Yaruslavsky or
maybe Yaruslovsky.

What original name is most likely? Or perhaps is some other variant more
plausible?

I am a novice genealogists, using primarily the services of
Ancestry.com. I would appreciate suggestions how I might research my
family origins more thoroughly.

Many thanks,
Gary Yarus


Re: Shtetls of Podolia (1883) - Snitovskoe v Snitkovskoe #ukraine

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

Dear Mr. Gabriel,

Thank you for your time and great effort in simplifying this information for
the rest of us. It has already helped clarify a confusion in my own research.

It would seem there are two "Snitkov"s, but actually, there's only one. An
internal letter "k" marks the difference in the original names. (I have also
exchanged e-mails with one of the authors of "Road to Letichev" on this and the
two together solidify the clarification.)

from your adaptation of the Candle Tax information:
Letichev Uyezd (147.9 miles WSW of Kiev)
8 Shtetls:
Snitkov (0194 males) 4848 2738


Mogilev Podolsk Uyezd (183.4 miles SW of Kiev)
10 Shtetls:
Snitkov (0272 males) 4848 2738


As the two places couldn't possibly have the same coordinates, I looked more
closely at the original names. The shtetl outside Letichev, included in "Road
to Letichev" is actually Snitovskoe, or Snitovka. The town NE of Murovanye
Kurilovtsy in Mogilev District is Snitkovskoe, or Snitkov.

Snitkov (Mogilev) is at the coordinates cited. It was about 1/3 larger in male
population and taxes than Snitovka, which was a very tiny place, as it appears
from the e-mail exchange.
I hope this will help others interested in either of the two towns. And my
ShtetLinks Page on Snitkov (Mogilev District) will be revised soon to account
for ownership and other information that actually pertained to Snitovka.
However, the geographical, religious, family, personalities and memoir
information are all about the 'right' Snitkov - at 4848 2738.

If anyone has further information on this, I for one would be very happy to
read what they have to say.

Michelle Frager, NY
Ukraine/Bess/Romania: TREIGER, SHIKH, GLUZMAN, TUREVSKY
http://shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/snitkov/ShtetLinksSnitkov_Index.htm

--- "N.C. Gabriel" <uy9p1@yahoo.com> wrote: ---

Dear Members of the Ukraine SIG,

I would like to present the following list of 140
Shtetls in the 12 Uyezds of Podolia Guberniya as a
POSSIBLY comprehensive list of all (or most) of the
Shtetls of Podolia Guberniya that existed in 1883.

My source for the information was the following:
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Litin/taxes.html

My source for the Russian spelling of the names of the
Shtetls was the following:
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Litin/taxes1883-3.html

I would like to credit Rose Feldman for finding the
document and The Central Archives for the History of
the Jewish People in Jerusalem for preserving it.

The distance >from Kiev refers to the chief town of the
Uyezd (the Uyezds were named after the chief towns).

Using ShtetlSeeker I have identified the various
Shtetls to the best of my ability. Where there are no
geographical co-ordinates I was not able to identify
the Shtetl and I have left the name of those Shtetls
in their adjective form as they appear on the list.

I have included the number of males in each Shtetl who
paid "Box Tax and Candle Tax" for the sake of
comparison.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Shtetls of Podolia (1883) - Snitovskoe v Snitkovskoe #ukraine

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

Dear Mr. Gabriel,

Thank you for your time and great effort in simplifying this information for
the rest of us. It has already helped clarify a confusion in my own research.

It would seem there are two "Snitkov"s, but actually, there's only one. An
internal letter "k" marks the difference in the original names. (I have also
exchanged e-mails with one of the authors of "Road to Letichev" on this and the
two together solidify the clarification.)

from your adaptation of the Candle Tax information:
Letichev Uyezd (147.9 miles WSW of Kiev)
8 Shtetls:
Snitkov (0194 males) 4848 2738


Mogilev Podolsk Uyezd (183.4 miles SW of Kiev)
10 Shtetls:
Snitkov (0272 males) 4848 2738


As the two places couldn't possibly have the same coordinates, I looked more
closely at the original names. The shtetl outside Letichev, included in "Road
to Letichev" is actually Snitovskoe, or Snitovka. The town NE of Murovanye
Kurilovtsy in Mogilev District is Snitkovskoe, or Snitkov.

Snitkov (Mogilev) is at the coordinates cited. It was about 1/3 larger in male
population and taxes than Snitovka, which was a very tiny place, as it appears
from the e-mail exchange.
I hope this will help others interested in either of the two towns. And my
ShtetLinks Page on Snitkov (Mogilev District) will be revised soon to account
for ownership and other information that actually pertained to Snitovka.
However, the geographical, religious, family, personalities and memoir
information are all about the 'right' Snitkov - at 4848 2738.

If anyone has further information on this, I for one would be very happy to
read what they have to say.

Michelle Frager, NY
Ukraine/Bess/Romania: TREIGER, SHIKH, GLUZMAN, TUREVSKY
http://shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/snitkov/ShtetLinksSnitkov_Index.htm

--- "N.C. Gabriel" <uy9p1@yahoo.com> wrote: ---

Dear Members of the Ukraine SIG,

I would like to present the following list of 140
Shtetls in the 12 Uyezds of Podolia Guberniya as a
POSSIBLY comprehensive list of all (or most) of the
Shtetls of Podolia Guberniya that existed in 1883.

My source for the information was the following:
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Litin/taxes.html

My source for the Russian spelling of the names of the
Shtetls was the following:
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Litin/taxes1883-3.html

I would like to credit Rose Feldman for finding the
document and The Central Archives for the History of
the Jewish People in Jerusalem for preserving it.

The distance >from Kiev refers to the chief town of the
Uyezd (the Uyezds were named after the chief towns).

Using ShtetlSeeker I have identified the various
Shtetls to the best of my ability. Where there are no
geographical co-ordinates I was not able to identify
the Shtetl and I have left the name of those Shtetls
in their adjective form as they appear on the list.

I have included the number of males in each Shtetl who
paid "Box Tax and Candle Tax" for the sake of
comparison.


Re: Surname BOCK > Emperor of Germany? #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

In article <003b01c56488$4c7086e0$8cded218@woh.rr.com>,
clea <clea@woh.rr.com> wrote:

I located a naturalization record for Nathan BOCK, the husband to a third
cousin, Clara SCHWARZBAUM. He is selling shoes in Manhattan. On the
naturalization record under the heading "Former Nationality" the words
"Emperor of Germany" appear. I "googled" the name and did not find anything.
Does anyone have a clue? The immigration date given in the 1900 census is
1875. The naturalization record I am referring to is dated 6 Oct 1876 and
may be viewed on a commercial ancestry site.
Immigrated in 1875 and he's still selling shoes? That's impressive!
I somehow doubt he was the Kaiser, though. Probably it should have
said "Empire"...

Robert Israel
israel@math.ubc.ca
Vancouver, BC, Canada


Re: Surname BOCK > Emperor of Germany? #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Sun, 29 May 2005 21:43:15 UTC, clea@woh.rr.com (clea) opined:

I located a naturalization record for Nathan BOCK, the husband to a third
cousin, Clara SCHWARZBAUM. He is selling shoes in Manhattan. On the
naturalization record under the heading "Former Nationality" the words
"Emperor of Germany" appear. I "googled" the name and did not find anything.
Does anyone have a clue? The immigration date given in the 1900 census is
1875. The naturalization record I am referring to is dated 6 Oct 1876 and
may be viewed on a commercial ancestry site.

Carolyn Lea
Bowling Green, Oh
clea@woh.rr.com

His English wasn't up to snuff; he wanted to write "Empire of Gernamy".

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Surname BOCK > Emperor of Germany? #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

In article <003b01c56488$4c7086e0$8cded218@woh.rr.com>,
clea <clea@woh.rr.com> wrote:

I located a naturalization record for Nathan BOCK, the husband to a third
cousin, Clara SCHWARZBAUM. He is selling shoes in Manhattan. On the
naturalization record under the heading "Former Nationality" the words
"Emperor of Germany" appear. I "googled" the name and did not find anything.
Does anyone have a clue? The immigration date given in the 1900 census is
1875. The naturalization record I am referring to is dated 6 Oct 1876 and
may be viewed on a commercial ancestry site.
Immigrated in 1875 and he's still selling shoes? That's impressive!
I somehow doubt he was the Kaiser, though. Probably it should have
said "Empire"...

Robert Israel
israel@math.ubc.ca
Vancouver, BC, Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Surname BOCK > Emperor of Germany? #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Sun, 29 May 2005 21:43:15 UTC, clea@woh.rr.com (clea) opined:

I located a naturalization record for Nathan BOCK, the husband to a third
cousin, Clara SCHWARZBAUM. He is selling shoes in Manhattan. On the
naturalization record under the heading "Former Nationality" the words
"Emperor of Germany" appear. I "googled" the name and did not find anything.
Does anyone have a clue? The immigration date given in the 1900 census is
1875. The naturalization record I am referring to is dated 6 Oct 1876 and
may be viewed on a commercial ancestry site.

Carolyn Lea
Bowling Green, Oh
clea@woh.rr.com

His English wasn't up to snuff; he wanted to write "Empire of Gernamy".

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

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