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Romanian translation request #romania

Martin Fischer
 

I would be very grateful if someone would translate a letter >from Romanian
into English for me that I have posted at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6445

It may be a follow up to an earlier 1921 letter in which Tony Abramovici of
Targu Neamt, Romania, informed her uncle Herman Landman of Kansas City, Mo.,
that her family had been unable to raise more than 50,000 lei for a dowry,
while a young man's family she was hoping to marry was demanding 70,000 lei.

I was surprised to learn of the need for a dowry in early 20th Century
Romania. Was a dowry commonly expected to be paid by a bride's parents in
the 1920s in Romania? Was this true among both Jews and gentiles in Romania
at that time?

Many thanks for any explanation and/or translation help.

Martin Fischer
Oak Park, Illinois


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The Fischer and Levin family history Web site is at:
http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/
Romania SIG #Romania Romanian translation request #romania

Martin Fischer
 

I would be very grateful if someone would translate a letter >from Romanian
into English for me that I have posted at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6445

It may be a follow up to an earlier 1921 letter in which Tony Abramovici of
Targu Neamt, Romania, informed her uncle Herman Landman of Kansas City, Mo.,
that her family had been unable to raise more than 50,000 lei for a dowry,
while a young man's family she was hoping to marry was demanding 70,000 lei.

I was surprised to learn of the need for a dowry in early 20th Century
Romania. Was a dowry commonly expected to be paid by a bride's parents in
the 1920s in Romania? Was this true among both Jews and gentiles in Romania
at that time?

Many thanks for any explanation and/or translation help.

Martin Fischer
Oak Park, Illinois


-----------
The Fischer and Levin family history Web site is at:
http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/
Re: Vienna birth record: Mathilde LOWE #austria-czech

MTB <71431.1612@...>
 

Message text written by Celia Male
Obviously we do not want dozens of identical replies,
but once the moderator has found a consensus - I would
hope that at least two or three could be posted to the
SIG, thus benefiting us all. =


I have just come across a website which suggests we
all write our family history in normal typeface and
then convert it into Kurrent to perfect our reading
skills! I wonder if anyone has tried this download and
if works?

http://www.waldenfont.com/product.asp?productID=3D8


Celia Male [U.K.]

<
Dear friends,

On Celia's first topic, I agree that seeing a variety of postings on a
given issue such as occupations helps me to sort out in my own mind which
are the most plausible. If we don't have discussions on such an important
topic as ancestors' ways of life, then we end up with a bunch of names,
"signifying nothing," to quote C. S. Eliot. :-)

I think that David Laufer might have been referring specifically to
members' interpretations of ViewMate files. In that case, members
usually reply privately. I don't remember a JewishGen policy
on this matter.

Re: Celia's second topic, I have indeed downloaded a Kurrent type and
then typed the various names in my own family in this type face,
thereby gaining some facility in reading Kurrent files. Not sure if I
used this specific web site, since I did this activity in the late 1990s.
I also did this exercise with the Suetter font.

Maureen Tighe-Brown
Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Vienna birth record: Mathilde LOWE #austria-czech

MTB <71431.1612@...>
 

Message text written by Celia Male
Obviously we do not want dozens of identical replies,
but once the moderator has found a consensus - I would
hope that at least two or three could be posted to the
SIG, thus benefiting us all. =


I have just come across a website which suggests we
all write our family history in normal typeface and
then convert it into Kurrent to perfect our reading
skills! I wonder if anyone has tried this download and
if works?

http://www.waldenfont.com/product.asp?productID=3D8


Celia Male [U.K.]

<
Dear friends,

On Celia's first topic, I agree that seeing a variety of postings on a
given issue such as occupations helps me to sort out in my own mind which
are the most plausible. If we don't have discussions on such an important
topic as ancestors' ways of life, then we end up with a bunch of names,
"signifying nothing," to quote C. S. Eliot. :-)

I think that David Laufer might have been referring specifically to
members' interpretations of ViewMate files. In that case, members
usually reply privately. I don't remember a JewishGen policy
on this matter.

Re: Celia's second topic, I have indeed downloaded a Kurrent type and
then typed the various names in my own family in this type face,
thereby gaining some facility in reading Kurrent files. Not sure if I
used this specific web site, since I did this activity in the late 1990s.
I also did this exercise with the Suetter font.

Maureen Tighe-Brown
Re: Do we have Jewish ancestors? #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

In article <BAY22-F4772954A81BE6B191E0E7D8DC0@phx.gbl>,
anu ruokanen <anu.santra.alisa@hotmail.com> wrote:

We have been studying our familytree for a while, but now I feel
like I can´t get anywhere anymore... We strongly believe that
we have Jewish roots, but there is not such mention in records.
Why do you have this belief? Are there any family stories or unusual
customs and practices that might be clues?

However many first names are like Abraham, Israel, Joshua...
Such biblical names were quite common among Protestants in many
places (I don't know about Finland).

I´ll
write a list about familynames if someone can tell more about
them. And how can we find out if our ansectors were Jewish ?
BLOMSTER
ALM
KALIN
TUMULI
STENIA
HOLMDAHL
ROSNELL
RINGVALL
FRIMAN
OJA
The only one that I would recognize as typically Jewish is FRIMAN.
However, some of the others might be slightly altered versions of
more typical Jewish surnames (KALIN >from KAPLAN? RINGVALL >from
RINGWALD? ROSNELL >from ROSNER?); many Jews don't have typically Jewish
names, and very few surnames are exclusively of Jewish origin.

Robert Israel
israel@math.ubc.ca
Vancouver, BC, Canada
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Do we have Jewish ancestors? #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

In article <BAY22-F4772954A81BE6B191E0E7D8DC0@phx.gbl>,
anu ruokanen <anu.santra.alisa@hotmail.com> wrote:

We have been studying our familytree for a while, but now I feel
like I can´t get anywhere anymore... We strongly believe that
we have Jewish roots, but there is not such mention in records.
Why do you have this belief? Are there any family stories or unusual
customs and practices that might be clues?

However many first names are like Abraham, Israel, Joshua...
Such biblical names were quite common among Protestants in many
places (I don't know about Finland).

I´ll
write a list about familynames if someone can tell more about
them. And how can we find out if our ansectors were Jewish ?
BLOMSTER
ALM
KALIN
TUMULI
STENIA
HOLMDAHL
ROSNELL
RINGVALL
FRIMAN
OJA
The only one that I would recognize as typically Jewish is FRIMAN.
However, some of the others might be slightly altered versions of
more typical Jewish surnames (KALIN >from KAPLAN? RINGVALL >from
RINGWALD? ROSNELL >from ROSNER?); many Jews don't have typically Jewish
names, and very few surnames are exclusively of Jewish origin.

Robert Israel
israel@math.ubc.ca
Vancouver, BC, Canada
Romanian translation request of 1921 letter #general

Martin Fischer
 

I would be very grateful if someone would translate a letter written in
Romanian into English. It is posted at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6445

The letter may be a follow-up to an earlier one in which Tony Abramovici of
Targu Neamt, Romania, wrote to her uncle Herman Landman of Kansas City, Mo.,
to express her frustration that her family had only been able to offer a
50,000 lei dowry to the family of the man she wished to marry, but his
family was demanding 70,000, far more than her family could afford.

Martin Fischer
Oak Park,Illinois

The Fischer and Levin family history Web site is at:
http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Romanian translation request of 1921 letter #general

Martin Fischer
 

I would be very grateful if someone would translate a letter written in
Romanian into English. It is posted at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6445

The letter may be a follow-up to an earlier one in which Tony Abramovici of
Targu Neamt, Romania, wrote to her uncle Herman Landman of Kansas City, Mo.,
to express her frustration that her family had only been able to offer a
50,000 lei dowry to the family of the man she wished to marry, but his
family was demanding 70,000, far more than her family could afford.

Martin Fischer
Oak Park,Illinois

The Fischer and Levin family history Web site is at:
http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately
Re: 1902 New York City directory Make sense of this please #general

ilyaz <ilyaz@...>
 

Dear Evertjan,
thanks for your reference. Sure, anything could be of importance either
right now or in a long while... As soon as I got your message about
Gershwin's letter to Max Abramson, I run to my local library and looked it
up... Unfortunately, this Max Abramson was a newspaper writer, quite young,
while my Max was a doctor and close to 60 years old... But thank you for
this reference anyway, I've learned something.
Regards,

Ilya Zeldes
Fort Myers, Florida
"Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> wrote in message
news:Xns96906C6A85F3Beejj99@194.109.133.242...
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Fwd: 1902 New York City directory Make sense of this please #general

ilyaz <ilyaz@...>
 

Dear Evertjan,
thanks for your reference. Sure, anything could be of importance either
right now or in a long while... As soon as I got your message about
Gershwin's letter to Max Abramson, I run to my local library and looked it
up... Unfortunately, this Max Abramson was a newspaper writer, quite young,
while my Max was a doctor and close to 60 years old... But thank you for
this reference anyway, I've learned something.
Regards,

Ilya Zeldes
Fort Myers, Florida
"Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> wrote in message
news:Xns96906C6A85F3Beejj99@194.109.133.242...
Need Translation of Polish Birth Record (AKT 456) dated 1831 #general

Howard Orenstein
 

Dear Friends,
I have uploaded a copy of a birth record for Zysman BOLION, who may
be my great great great grandfather. I typed in the family name, BLOOM,
at www.JRI-Poland.org, and this was one of the records that was
indexed for Warszawa. According to the index, Zysman was born on
7 April 1928 to his father, Peysah Hersz BOLION and mother, Jenta.
He was registered in 1831, AKT 456. I went to the local Family History
Center and obtained film number 0689512, and photocopied the record,
which then I scanned into my computer. The record can be seen at the
following link:

http://www2.mcdaniel.edu/Psychology/HBO/ZysmanBULION.jpg

I would like to get the entire record translated, which looks like it
is written in Polish. Thank you for your help; it is gratefully appreciated.
Cordially,

Howard Orenstein
horenstein@mcdaniel.edu

Searching for ORENSTEIN, BLUM (BLOOM), HOLLAND, PIENIEK,
OSTROWIAK >from Wyszkow, Serock, Poland

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Need Translation of Polish Birth Record (AKT 456) dated 1831 #general

Howard Orenstein
 

Dear Friends,
I have uploaded a copy of a birth record for Zysman BOLION, who may
be my great great great grandfather. I typed in the family name, BLOOM,
at www.JRI-Poland.org, and this was one of the records that was
indexed for Warszawa. According to the index, Zysman was born on
7 April 1928 to his father, Peysah Hersz BOLION and mother, Jenta.
He was registered in 1831, AKT 456. I went to the local Family History
Center and obtained film number 0689512, and photocopied the record,
which then I scanned into my computer. The record can be seen at the
following link:

http://www2.mcdaniel.edu/Psychology/HBO/ZysmanBULION.jpg

I would like to get the entire record translated, which looks like it
is written in Polish. Thank you for your help; it is gratefully appreciated.
Cordially,

Howard Orenstein
horenstein@mcdaniel.edu

Searching for ORENSTEIN, BLUM (BLOOM), HOLLAND, PIENIEK,
OSTROWIAK >from Wyszkow, Serock, Poland

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately
Do we have Jewish ancestors? #general

anu ruokanen <anu.santra.alisa@...>
 

We have been studying our familytree for a while, but now I feel
like I can´t get anywhere anymore... We strongly believe that
we have Jewish roots, but there is not such mention in records.
However many first names are like Abraham, Israel, Joshua...I´ll
write a list about familynames if someone can tell more about
them. And how can we find out if our ansectors were Jewish ?

BLOMSTER
ALM
KALIN
TUMULI
STENIA
HOLMDAHL
ROSNELL
RINGVALL
FRIMAN
OJA

Regards
Anu Ruokanen
Finland
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Do we have Jewish ancestors? #general

anu ruokanen <anu.santra.alisa@...>
 

We have been studying our familytree for a while, but now I feel
like I can´t get anywhere anymore... We strongly believe that
we have Jewish roots, but there is not such mention in records.
However many first names are like Abraham, Israel, Joshua...I´ll
write a list about familynames if someone can tell more about
them. And how can we find out if our ansectors were Jewish ?

BLOMSTER
ALM
KALIN
TUMULI
STENIA
HOLMDAHL
ROSNELL
RINGVALL
FRIMAN
OJA

Regards
Anu Ruokanen
Finland
seeking graves in Herzliya and Natanya #general

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

Does anyone have current email addresses for the Chevra Kadisha in
Herzlia and Natanya?

They are not listed in the UAJGS Cemetery Project list. I prefer to try
emailing as phone is prohibitively expensive.

I would like to find the dates of death and burial (and any other info the
cemetery has) for

In Herzlia (there is only 1 cemetery I think)
Joseph (Friedlander) Andermann b abt Oct 1899 died March 1982,
his wife
Rose Esther "Shoshana" Cymberknopf Andermann b.15 Feb 1910 , died Feb
1992


In Natanya, (I don't know which cemetery)
Yitzhack (Ignatz) Binder died abt 1971
his wife
Zilli/Cilly Andermann Binder who d. abt 1973

Their daughter:
Devorah Binder Shenker Tabachnick b. abt 1922;. 11 Nov 1999
her husband
Aryeh Tabachnick no dates known


Barbara S Mannlein
Tucson, AZ
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen seeking graves in Herzliya and Natanya #general

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

Does anyone have current email addresses for the Chevra Kadisha in
Herzlia and Natanya?

They are not listed in the UAJGS Cemetery Project list. I prefer to try
emailing as phone is prohibitively expensive.

I would like to find the dates of death and burial (and any other info the
cemetery has) for

In Herzlia (there is only 1 cemetery I think)
Joseph (Friedlander) Andermann b abt Oct 1899 died March 1982,
his wife
Rose Esther "Shoshana" Cymberknopf Andermann b.15 Feb 1910 , died Feb
1992


In Natanya, (I don't know which cemetery)
Yitzhack (Ignatz) Binder died abt 1971
his wife
Zilli/Cilly Andermann Binder who d. abt 1973

Their daughter:
Devorah Binder Shenker Tabachnick b. abt 1922;. 11 Nov 1999
her husband
Aryeh Tabachnick no dates known


Barbara S Mannlein
Tucson, AZ
Locating unknown grave in Israel #general

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

I have a few relatives whose places of burial (in Israel) are not known.
Any ideas on how to locate their graves?

I prefer to email.... phone is too expensive... (and, well, I am a
procrastinator when it comes to writing a real letter!)

They are:

Moritz POHYRLLES (name used in US)
(Usually written: POHORILE)
b. 10 May 1891 in Buczacz,
Lived NYC during and after WW2
Made Aliyah abt 1980, I think.
In 1984 he was living at Hotel Hamavri; Rupin St.; Kfar Saba
d. in the spring of 1986.


David (Andermann) ELDAN
b 12 Feb 1911 in Vienna
d. 1989
Photographer; PR-press officer for Israel govt.
Lived in Givatayim


Members of the PHILLIPSBORN family:

Daniel PHILLIPSBORN
b 09 Mar 1956 - d 26 March 1980
He is buried in the "civilian" cemetery in Haifa as per
http://www.izkor.gov.il

his mother
Herta PHILLIPSBORN(Mina?) bat Chaim
b. abt 1921 - d. march 1980

his father
Heinz PHILLIPSBORN
b abt 1915, Stettin, Ger - d abt 1963


Barbara S. Mannlein
Tucson, AZ
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Locating unknown grave in Israel #general

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

I have a few relatives whose places of burial (in Israel) are not known.
Any ideas on how to locate their graves?

I prefer to email.... phone is too expensive... (and, well, I am a
procrastinator when it comes to writing a real letter!)

They are:

Moritz POHYRLLES (name used in US)
(Usually written: POHORILE)
b. 10 May 1891 in Buczacz,
Lived NYC during and after WW2
Made Aliyah abt 1980, I think.
In 1984 he was living at Hotel Hamavri; Rupin St.; Kfar Saba
d. in the spring of 1986.


David (Andermann) ELDAN
b 12 Feb 1911 in Vienna
d. 1989
Photographer; PR-press officer for Israel govt.
Lived in Givatayim


Members of the PHILLIPSBORN family:

Daniel PHILLIPSBORN
b 09 Mar 1956 - d 26 March 1980
He is buried in the "civilian" cemetery in Haifa as per
http://www.izkor.gov.il

his mother
Herta PHILLIPSBORN(Mina?) bat Chaim
b. abt 1921 - d. march 1980

his father
Heinz PHILLIPSBORN
b abt 1915, Stettin, Ger - d abt 1963


Barbara S. Mannlein
Tucson, AZ
Surnames HALLKOFSKY and PLANSKA. #general

R.C.W. Hall, Jr.
 

Greetings all,

It was suggested to me by a genealogist that I start research on this
group, after finding the following information:

Cambridge, Middlesex MA
23 April 1910
SD-119 ED-769 Sheet 15B Image 30
117 Pleasant St
Benedict HALKOFSKY 26 m1 married 4yrs Rus-Yiddish [ditto parents] Imm 1906
Mary wife 22 m1 mar4yrs 1/1 Rus-Yiddish [ditto parents] Imm 1906
Alexander son 2 MA

[Yiddish heritage suggests religious persecution {pogrom?}]

1917-1918
Benedict Ignattesy HALLKOFSKY
Cambridge Middlesex MA
235 Broadway
employed at Woodbury and sons
Carpenter
next of kin Mrs Mary Hallkofsky
born 14 Mar 1885

Suggests all the children may have been born in Cambridge.
Additional records may be found there and should be pursued.

Now, I know very little about Benedict and Mary, my great
grandparents. Birth certificates >from their children seem to indicate that
they are both Russian, but someone told me recently that Mary, maiden name
PLANSKA, was b. in Salzburg, Austria, and her father was >from
Czechoslovakia and mother >from Poland.

I do not know if Benedict had any brothers and sisters. I know nothing else.

Mary had four other sisters; the name of one being Anne. As the family
story goes, they were living in Koblinsky and their family were barters and
bakers; Mary the oldest. Mother d. in childbirth and father went off to
the service and never returned.

Surname Hallkofsky appears most frequently, although I have seen numerous
spellings: Halkofsky, Halkowsky and Hallkowsky. It was suggested to me
that the surname was "Americanized."

Any information would be most appreciated. I find it interesting that
doing a google search on Hallkofsky, and other variants yield nothing to
very little. If I change the "y" to an "i", I find additional info. under
Halkowski, but it is my assumption that that is a Polish surname (ending
with an i).

Thank you all for your time.

'good day.

Robert Hall.
Cambridge, Mass. 02139-4301
rchall@mit.edu
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Surnames HALLKOFSKY and PLANSKA. #general

R.C.W. Hall, Jr.
 

Greetings all,

It was suggested to me by a genealogist that I start research on this
group, after finding the following information:

Cambridge, Middlesex MA
23 April 1910
SD-119 ED-769 Sheet 15B Image 30
117 Pleasant St
Benedict HALKOFSKY 26 m1 married 4yrs Rus-Yiddish [ditto parents] Imm 1906
Mary wife 22 m1 mar4yrs 1/1 Rus-Yiddish [ditto parents] Imm 1906
Alexander son 2 MA

[Yiddish heritage suggests religious persecution {pogrom?}]

1917-1918
Benedict Ignattesy HALLKOFSKY
Cambridge Middlesex MA
235 Broadway
employed at Woodbury and sons
Carpenter
next of kin Mrs Mary Hallkofsky
born 14 Mar 1885

Suggests all the children may have been born in Cambridge.
Additional records may be found there and should be pursued.

Now, I know very little about Benedict and Mary, my great
grandparents. Birth certificates >from their children seem to indicate that
they are both Russian, but someone told me recently that Mary, maiden name
PLANSKA, was b. in Salzburg, Austria, and her father was >from
Czechoslovakia and mother >from Poland.

I do not know if Benedict had any brothers and sisters. I know nothing else.

Mary had four other sisters; the name of one being Anne. As the family
story goes, they were living in Koblinsky and their family were barters and
bakers; Mary the oldest. Mother d. in childbirth and father went off to
the service and never returned.

Surname Hallkofsky appears most frequently, although I have seen numerous
spellings: Halkofsky, Halkowsky and Hallkowsky. It was suggested to me
that the surname was "Americanized."

Any information would be most appreciated. I find it interesting that
doing a google search on Hallkofsky, and other variants yield nothing to
very little. If I change the "y" to an "i", I find additional info. under
Halkowski, but it is my assumption that that is a Polish surname (ending
with an i).

Thank you all for your time.

'good day.

Robert Hall.
Cambridge, Mass. 02139-4301
rchall@mit.edu
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