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Naming a Baby Girl #general

Stan <natsnehoc@...>
 

Dear Genners,

As a first time 'Zaidy', I would appreciate any information or guidance
regarding the following three questions:

Can a baby girl be named after her recently deceased great grandfather, who
has not as yet had an unveiling of his memorial? The girl was born some 4
months after the GGF's passing. She is now one week old, (and a real
beauty!).

Is (are) there any restriction(s) as to how long after her birth she should
be named in the Synagogue?

What would be the female version of the male name "Chaim"?

I would like to ensure correctness in terms of religious and genealogical
protocall. Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Stan Cohen
Toronto, Canada
natsnehoc@rogers.com

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Naming a Baby Girl #general

Stan <natsnehoc@...>
 

Dear Genners,

As a first time 'Zaidy', I would appreciate any information or guidance
regarding the following three questions:

Can a baby girl be named after her recently deceased great grandfather, who
has not as yet had an unveiling of his memorial? The girl was born some 4
months after the GGF's passing. She is now one week old, (and a real
beauty!).

Is (are) there any restriction(s) as to how long after her birth she should
be named in the Synagogue?

What would be the female version of the male name "Chaim"?

I would like to ensure correctness in terms of religious and genealogical
protocall. Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Stan Cohen
Toronto, Canada
natsnehoc@rogers.com

MODEARTOR NOTE: Only messages relating to Jwish Genealogy will be posted
to the group. Religious practices are considerd off-topic to this list.
Stan is encoureged to post a summary of the replies.


translation/interpretation help #austria-czech

Marc D. Machtinger <marc@...>
 

Dear Fellow Researchers:

I would be grateful for translation/interpretation assistance on a Hungarian
marriage record. I post here because I believe several of the towns of
birth are in Moravia, and I wish to ask whether anyone familiar with those
towns might recognize them in the record. The record is an 1872 marriage
for Sigmund BRAUNER and Betti NEUMAN in Komarom, Hungary. Since I have
several images of the record, I have placed it on a web page rather than on
ViewMate. I have indicated my specific questions on the web page. The URL
is:
http://www.patentstation.com/family2/braunerneumann.htm

I would greatly appreciate any responses. Please respond directly to me at
marc@patentstation.com.

Very truly yours,

Marc D. Machtinger, Buffalo Grove, Illinois, U.S.A.
email: marc@patentstation.com


Re: Help With Canadian 1911 Census-Winnipeg #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Mervin" < mglow@dc.rr.com > wrote:

I have addresses for relatives that lived in Winnipeg in 1911. How do I
translate that information to Districts and sub-districts to aid and limit
my review of the data now on the internet? The addresses I have are in the
2 & 4 hundred block of Jarvis, the 200 block of Dufferin, the 500 block of
Pritchard, the 1st block of Schultz and the 300 block of Manitoba. Thanks in
advance.
See http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/1911/006003-300-e.html
Census Districts and Sub-districts which refers to
http://tinyurl.com/dt9wn [URL shortened by moderator]
Electoral atlas of the Dominion of Canada, 1904. Apparently this is very
similar to the Census geography in 1911.

(note the webpage address is on two lines)

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech translation/interpretation help #austria-czech

Marc D. Machtinger <marc@...>
 

Dear Fellow Researchers:

I would be grateful for translation/interpretation assistance on a Hungarian
marriage record. I post here because I believe several of the towns of
birth are in Moravia, and I wish to ask whether anyone familiar with those
towns might recognize them in the record. The record is an 1872 marriage
for Sigmund BRAUNER and Betti NEUMAN in Komarom, Hungary. Since I have
several images of the record, I have placed it on a web page rather than on
ViewMate. I have indicated my specific questions on the web page. The URL
is:
http://www.patentstation.com/family2/braunerneumann.htm

I would greatly appreciate any responses. Please respond directly to me at
marc@patentstation.com.

Very truly yours,

Marc D. Machtinger, Buffalo Grove, Illinois, U.S.A.
email: marc@patentstation.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Help With Canadian 1911 Census-Winnipeg #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Mervin" < mglow@dc.rr.com > wrote:

I have addresses for relatives that lived in Winnipeg in 1911. How do I
translate that information to Districts and sub-districts to aid and limit
my review of the data now on the internet? The addresses I have are in the
2 & 4 hundred block of Jarvis, the 200 block of Dufferin, the 500 block of
Pritchard, the 1st block of Schultz and the 300 block of Manitoba. Thanks in
advance.
See http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/1911/006003-300-e.html
Census Districts and Sub-districts which refers to
http://tinyurl.com/dt9wn [URL shortened by moderator]
Electoral atlas of the Dominion of Canada, 1904. Apparently this is very
similar to the Census geography in 1911.

(note the webpage address is on two lines)

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


World War II Draft Registration access-not "Old Timers" #general

Mjn519@...
 

Is there a way we can access the WWII Draft Registration cards for those who
don't belong in the Old Timers group (the 4th Registration)?

Also, were all boys who were 18 years old and older required to register
regardless of disability (like they do now)?

~Marie Lubman
Chino Hills, CA

Researching:
GREENSTONE, GRINSTJIN (similar spellings), GUTERMAN of Kalvarija;
AUGUST, ZACHER, FISCHER, SOLOMON, LUBMAN, RIVIN


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen World War II Draft Registration access-not "Old Timers" #general

Mjn519@...
 

Is there a way we can access the WWII Draft Registration cards for those who
don't belong in the Old Timers group (the 4th Registration)?

Also, were all boys who were 18 years old and older required to register
regardless of disability (like they do now)?

~Marie Lubman
Chino Hills, CA

Researching:
GREENSTONE, GRINSTJIN (similar spellings), GUTERMAN of Kalvarija;
AUGUST, ZACHER, FISCHER, SOLOMON, LUBMAN, RIVIN


Seeking LEIFERMAN Ancestry - Grandmother - Born Berlin? around 1872. #general

Garlen Neely <sansmoss@...>
 

Any information anyone might have would be most appreciated.

My Grandmother (Johanna LEIFERMAN sp?)came to the United States in 1903. I
believe she was born in Berlin. She was married to my Grandfather (Johannes
VAN HESS) and resided in Altinessen, Germany prior to leaving for the US.
She converted to Catholocism and I believe her family disowned her.

I understand that Leiferman is derived >from a Yiddish word meaning
"messenger".

I appreciate assistance >from anyone who might assist my family in search of
our true heritage.

With kind regards,

Garlen J. Neely
Cotton Valley, LA 71018
sansmoss@hotmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking LEIFERMAN Ancestry - Grandmother - Born Berlin? around 1872. #general

Garlen Neely <sansmoss@...>
 

Any information anyone might have would be most appreciated.

My Grandmother (Johanna LEIFERMAN sp?)came to the United States in 1903. I
believe she was born in Berlin. She was married to my Grandfather (Johannes
VAN HESS) and resided in Altinessen, Germany prior to leaving for the US.
She converted to Catholocism and I believe her family disowned her.

I understand that Leiferman is derived >from a Yiddish word meaning
"messenger".

I appreciate assistance >from anyone who might assist my family in search of
our true heritage.

With kind regards,

Garlen J. Neely
Cotton Valley, LA 71018
sansmoss@hotmail.com


need help #general

Sabrina Rabinovich
 

Dear list

I'm new on the Jewishgen and need some advice. I was
looking a list of researchers but did not find any.
Maybe some of you knows a good one who works in
Vilna. I have many family names to search in the
region of Smorgany (Lithuania) and Druya (Belarus).
Can any of you confirm the availability of Druya
documents in Lithuanian archives?
Many thanks in advance.

Sabrina Rabinovich
France

Researching: MILMANN, LEVY, RABINOVICH (Smorgany),
JOFE, GRININ (Druya)

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Fwd: need help #general

Sabrina Rabinovich
 

Dear list

I'm new on the Jewishgen and need some advice. I was
looking a list of researchers but did not find any.
Maybe some of you knows a good one who works in
Vilna. I have many family names to search in the
region of Smorgany (Lithuania) and Druya (Belarus).
Can any of you confirm the availability of Druya
documents in Lithuanian archives?
Many thanks in advance.

Sabrina Rabinovich
France

Researching: MILMANN, LEVY, RABINOVICH (Smorgany),
JOFE, GRININ (Druya)

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and will not be posted to the list.


Re: Finding Death Certificates #general

Linda Altman <familysearch@...>
 

Michael;
Have you tried looking at LDS films? They have death certificates for NYC on
film. First get the index for the years you want. Find the names with the
certificate numbers. Then order the films that have those numbers on them or
get them >from NYC. Last time I rented a film >from LDS it was a little over
$3. Thats a lot less than paying a researcher and a lot less than havin NYC
do the search for you.
Linda Altman

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Salzbank" <msalzbank@gmail.com>
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 11:04 AM
Subject: Finding Death Certificates


***snip***

Is there a way for me to locate the certificates if I know the date of
death, and in some cases, even the cemetery?

Missing names include:
Aaron FRIMMERMAN
Reitza (Rose) FRIMMERMAN
Max JORRISCH
Isaak JORRISCH
Mary JORRISCH
Alter JORRISCH

Any suggestions? Thank you

Michael SALZBANK
MSalzbank@gmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Finding Death Certificates #general

Linda Altman <familysearch@...>
 

Michael;
Have you tried looking at LDS films? They have death certificates for NYC on
film. First get the index for the years you want. Find the names with the
certificate numbers. Then order the films that have those numbers on them or
get them >from NYC. Last time I rented a film >from LDS it was a little over
$3. Thats a lot less than paying a researcher and a lot less than havin NYC
do the search for you.
Linda Altman

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Salzbank" <msalzbank@gmail.com>
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 11:04 AM
Subject: Finding Death Certificates


***snip***

Is there a way for me to locate the certificates if I know the date of
death, and in some cases, even the cemetery?

Missing names include:
Aaron FRIMMERMAN
Reitza (Rose) FRIMMERMAN
Max JORRISCH
Isaak JORRISCH
Mary JORRISCH
Alter JORRISCH

Any suggestions? Thank you

Michael SALZBANK
MSalzbank@gmail.com


Re: hatter #general

Flagg <rf@...>
 

Dear Sulamith,

My grandfather, >from Botosani, Romania, was a hatter for some years and
worked for Stetson in Philadelphia after his arrival in the US.

"Mad hatter's disease" is (physical and) mental illness caused by exposure
to mercury used in processing felt. It was long known to be an occupational
hazard, though the exact cause may not have been known at the time. You can
find a lot of information on this by using a search engine like Google. For
example, this excerpt from
http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/motm/dimethylmercury/dmmj.htm "Unfortunately the
workers in the felt hat trade absorbed mercury through their skins; the
resulting mercury poisoning caused shaking and slurred speech, being known
as "hatter's disease", which is believed to have inspired the character of
the Mad Hatter in Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland...."

Regards,
Alberta

Alberta Freidus-Flagg
Honolulu, Hawaii

(Researching FREIDUS (Zagare, Riga, NYC, Johannesburg);
LEVIT/LEVITT/LEAVITT (Koknese Courland, NYC); BAS/BASS (Courland); SACHS
(Zagare); LEIBOVIT (Botosani, Key West, Miami, Palm Beach, Florida);
WEINSTEIN (Odessa, Key West); APOTHEKER (Iasi, Key West).=20


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: hatter #general

Flagg <rf@...>
 

Dear Sulamith,

My grandfather, >from Botosani, Romania, was a hatter for some years and
worked for Stetson in Philadelphia after his arrival in the US.

"Mad hatter's disease" is (physical and) mental illness caused by exposure
to mercury used in processing felt. It was long known to be an occupational
hazard, though the exact cause may not have been known at the time. You can
find a lot of information on this by using a search engine like Google. For
example, this excerpt from
http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/motm/dimethylmercury/dmmj.htm "Unfortunately the
workers in the felt hat trade absorbed mercury through their skins; the
resulting mercury poisoning caused shaking and slurred speech, being known
as "hatter's disease", which is believed to have inspired the character of
the Mad Hatter in Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland...."

Regards,
Alberta

Alberta Freidus-Flagg
Honolulu, Hawaii

(Researching FREIDUS (Zagare, Riga, NYC, Johannesburg);
LEVIT/LEVITT/LEAVITT (Koknese Courland, NYC); BAS/BASS (Courland); SACHS
(Zagare); LEIBOVIT (Botosani, Key West, Miami, Palm Beach, Florida);
WEINSTEIN (Odessa, Key West); APOTHEKER (Iasi, Key West).=20


Naturalization Index Errors? #general

Sam Schleman <Samara99@...>
 

I have been attempting to obtain the declaration of intent of a Louis
GREENBERGER. In both paid genealogy services and in the indexes to
Naturalization records available >from the FHC, it is indicated that Louis
Greenberger was naturalized on 12 Aug 1913 by the NY Supreme Court, and his
declaration of intent can be found on Vol. 63, page 145.

The problem is that Vol. 63 covers 1911, not 1913. I would guess that August
of 1913 would fall around vols. 130-145. I have been told by the
fee-for-service company that they just copy the records >from the municipal
archives, and I would have to go back to the originator of the records for a
correction. That is all well and fine, but doesn't help me find Uncle Louis.
:-) The FHC records are microfilms of the records at the municipal archives.

I considered that vol. 63 was a typo and should have been 83 or 163, but
those don't appear to work either.

Does anyone have any idea how I could determine the vol. and page for Louis,
other than wading through 10 or 12 volumes of declarations that fall in the
July to Sept 1911 period?

Thanks.

Sam Schleman
Malvern, PA
Samara99@comcast.net


Re: Polish medical journal- Pneumonologia Polska #general

backon@...
 

kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu (Logan J. Kleinwaks) writes:

I am looking for an old issue of a Polish medical journal that contains an
article of possible genealogical importance. If you have easy access to
past issues of this journal, Pneumonologia Polska, please contact me
privately.

Try using www.ingenta.com or the British Library www.bl.uk
Both charge about $20 per article.

Dr. Josh Backon
backon@vms.huji.ac.il


Re: Publishing Genealogies #general

Paul <news@...>
 

"Nick" < tulse04-news@yahoo.co.uk > wrote:

[snip]>
Well, my ISP (Internet Service Provider) BT Yahoo uses my mother's maiden
name as a way of accessing the Internet if I have forgotten my password.
[snip]

Nothing requires you to give your mother's actual maiden name. I never do.
The request for maiden name is only to identify that you are the person who
requests a transaction online. You can provide any nonsense string as long
as you can remember it later.

Paul Wolf
San Diego, CA

KHAVULYA (Talnoye, Uman, Kiev, Buenos Aires, Philadelphia)
BEININ (Talnoye)
SWITZKY
SLAFER or SCHLEIFER


Re: Publishing Genealogies #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:35:14 UTC, tulse04-news@yahoo.co.uk (Nick)
opined:

"Hilary Henkin" < hilary@proppersource.com > wrote:

I'd like to offer a differing opinion about this topic, in total
agreement with Stan Goodman.
snip

If I list someone as "daughter, living", how can this lead to identity
theft? Even if I list "Ann, still living", how can this lead to identity
theft???? And how many cases of identity theft have you heard of which
began with info >from a genealogy website????
Well, my ISP (Internet Service Provider) BT Yahoo uses my mother's maiden
name as a way of accessing the Internet if I have forgotten my password.
That is incorrect. What happened, in fact, is the following:

a) Yahoo asked for your mother's maiden name,
b) You, perhaps thoughtlessly gave it, and
c) It became your password.

What do you think would have happened if you had told them your
mother's name before her marriage was "Marie Antoinette" or "Lizzie
Borden"? That is what I have done with a bank that asked me this
foolish question, and therefore the name I gave them (actually neither
of the above) is my password. Yahoo cares not a fig about your mother;
they are helping unimaginative people by giving them a framework to
begin to think about a password. Given that one's mother is on public
record as having borne one, anybody that gives the right answer
deserves whatever happens to him.

There is lots of information that is obviously available on the Internet.
One person who posts on this newsgroup referred to me half-jokingly as
"spying" on her when I looked up her name and then when I wrote to her I
referred to some information I had found out about her.

I think I have referred previously to "data warehousing" which is used by
marketing companies. If they have a number of databases containing
information collected independently about people, they can then pool the
information >from the different databases to build up a much more detailed
picture of individuals.

In effect, the Internet is a intersecting set of a vast number of
independent databases.
This is not really relevant.

Genealogical researchers are able to use this facility to build up a picture
of their ancestors.

Whilst noone minds this about people who are no longer alive, but people are
quite right to be concerned about the information about themselves available
on the Internet.

As in other areas of public interest, the fact that something is interesting
doesn't necessarily mean that such things are in the public interest.
It is indeed possible to bowdlerize a genealogy in deference to the
neurotically defensive. Remember that you are gathering this
information as a way to preserve information for the future, and that
anything you omit because the person is still alive is lost forever --
nobody, after you are gone, is going to fill in the details as the
nervous nellies die off. If genealogy is for you merely a fun way to
kill time, this doesn't matter much. If, on the other hand, you are
collecting information to show the next generation or so whence they
came, you may think differently. The children of the person whose name
you have omitted are also unknown, and are likely to remain so. You
may want to make your genealogy as complete as you possibly can. Much
information is already lost to us, simply because the people who could
supply it are gone -- and that is a process that, as you know, is
still active.

What is true is that it is foolish in many ways to publish sensitive
and identifying details, sometimes even of dead persons. Dates/places
of birth, marriage, and death are already matters of public record.
You are not releasing secrets into the public domain by publishing
them.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

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