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Re: Maps #bessarabia

tom klein <h-sig@...>
 

what a wonderful collection of maps! thank you for the reference.

if they are not for sale, you might try printing them yourself on a colour printer. the one that i experimented with, bekes megye, was roughly letter-sized (slightly smaller than 8.5x11"), and the right resolution (175 dpi) to print reasonably well on my black and white laser printer at home. you should be able to print them on a colour printer in a copy shop for about $1 a page or less.


....... tom klein, toronto

"Sam Schleman" <Samara99@comcast.net> wrote:

Does anyone know if it is possible to purchase the map(s) that are at
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/vmlista.htm?

Thanks.

Sam Schleman
Malvern, PA
Samara99@comcast.net


query abut Hungarian researchers #hungary

Krystyna Duszniak <losthistories@...>
 

I wonder if anyone knows of a reputable researcher based in Budapest (but
not necessarily) who is familiar with Jewish genealogy? I have used only Dr.
Aristid Harmath in the past. One of my clients needs a few 20th-century
certificates. Can anyone advise me as to whether Hungarian civil records are
available only as extracts or also as copies of the original documents? And
do Jewish religious records exist - eg. a Jewish wedding in the 1930s?
kind regards
Krystyna Duszniak
Lost Histories
409 Inkerman Street
East St Kilda Victoria 3183
Australia
ph./fax +613 95072552
losthistories@optusnet.com.au
www.losthistories.com

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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Maps #hungary

tom klein <h-sig@...>
 

what a wonderful collection of maps! thank you for the reference.

if they are not for sale, you might try printing them yourself on a colour printer. the one that i experimented with, bekes megye, was roughly letter-sized (slightly smaller than 8.5x11"), and the right resolution (175 dpi) to print reasonably well on my black and white laser printer at home. you should be able to print them on a colour printer in a copy shop for about $1 a page or less.


....... tom klein, toronto

"Sam Schleman" <Samara99@comcast.net> wrote:

Does anyone know if it is possible to purchase the map(s) that are at
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/vmlista.htm?

Thanks.

Sam Schleman
Malvern, PA
Samara99@comcast.net


Hungary SIG #Hungary query abut Hungarian researchers #hungary

Krystyna Duszniak <losthistories@...>
 

I wonder if anyone knows of a reputable researcher based in Budapest (but
not necessarily) who is familiar with Jewish genealogy? I have used only Dr.
Aristid Harmath in the past. One of my clients needs a few 20th-century
certificates. Can anyone advise me as to whether Hungarian civil records are
available only as extracts or also as copies of the original documents? And
do Jewish religious records exist - eg. a Jewish wedding in the 1930s?
kind regards
Krystyna Duszniak
Lost Histories
409 Inkerman Street
East St Kilda Victoria 3183
Australia
ph./fax +613 95072552
losthistories@optusnet.com.au
www.losthistories.com

Moderator: Please send comments and suggestions off-list.


JACOBS 1880-1970 #hungary

Ruth May
 

Shalom all,
My grandfather's brother Arnold Vadasz Jacobs was born
March 4, 1880 in Velkekapusawy, Hungary. He came to
the US on Dec 2, 1923 >from Cherbourg, France, abord
the Aquitania to New York City. In Hungary he was an
attorney. I think he was a restaurant cashier in NYC.
He lived at 121 92nd Street. He died in 1970.

I know less about grandpa. His name was Kuby Jacobs
born 1867 ungary, died 1961 in Oklahoma.

Can anyone help me locate Velkekapusawy? Was the name
Vadasz Jewish? Could Kuby be a diminuative for Jacob?
Where shall I look next?

Thanks in advance for your advice.

Ruth May
Bellevue, WA

JACOBS-Hungary.South Carolina>Tennesee>Oklahoma
MADANSKY(changed to May 1923)-Sudikov,
Dennevits,Ukraine>Illinois>Arkansas>Oklahoma
MICHAELSON-Ukraine>Oklahoma
GREENFIELD-South Carolina
SCHATZ-Charleston, South Carolina


All the Best from

Ruth Alexis May


Hungary SIG #Hungary JACOBS 1880-1970 #hungary

Ruth May
 

Shalom all,
My grandfather's brother Arnold Vadasz Jacobs was born
March 4, 1880 in Velkekapusawy, Hungary. He came to
the US on Dec 2, 1923 >from Cherbourg, France, abord
the Aquitania to New York City. In Hungary he was an
attorney. I think he was a restaurant cashier in NYC.
He lived at 121 92nd Street. He died in 1970.

I know less about grandpa. His name was Kuby Jacobs
born 1867 ungary, died 1961 in Oklahoma.

Can anyone help me locate Velkekapusawy? Was the name
Vadasz Jewish? Could Kuby be a diminuative for Jacob?
Where shall I look next?

Thanks in advance for your advice.

Ruth May
Bellevue, WA

JACOBS-Hungary.South Carolina>Tennesee>Oklahoma
MADANSKY(changed to May 1923)-Sudikov,
Dennevits,Ukraine>Illinois>Arkansas>Oklahoma
MICHAELSON-Ukraine>Oklahoma
GREENFIELD-South Carolina
SCHATZ-Charleston, South Carolina


All the Best from

Ruth Alexis May


Plot numbers #warsaw #poland

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

I often use the plot numbers to find out the streets and if I have a street
name and number I check to see who owned the place in the past. I was even
able to trace how one place probably went >from grandfather to grandson even
though the name changed.
The odd thing I found is sometimes the plot number seems to move one number.
In a 1904 wedding registration, the plot is 2274 but if I look up an address
from 1910, I get an plot number that is 2275, 2276. So I am assuming that
in 1904 the father of the bride lived in the same place he did in 1910 - as
listed in the address directory - even though the address is not mentioned
in the wedding registration..
As I mentioned at the begining I keep track of the owner in previous years,
because I might find out at a later date that they are related.
Every little bit of info helps weave the story.
For example we had an approximate date for the death of my husband's great
grandmother and a nickname for his great grandfather.
from the wedding registration of his great aunt, we now know:
the great grandmother died befoe 1904 and we now know her second name
the name of the great grandfather and this ties us into other information
from JRI-Poland taking us back another 100 years.
Keep digging,
Rose Feldman
GITNER, REZNIK Litin & Kalinovka Ukraine
EPSTEIN, BOYARKSY Ruzhany, Kossovo, Mscibow Belarus
TREPPER, TREPMAN, FELDMAN, LICHT, SOICHER, SLOVIK, SZPERBER, ORENSTEIN
Warsaw Poland


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland Plot numbers #warsaw #poland

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

I often use the plot numbers to find out the streets and if I have a street
name and number I check to see who owned the place in the past. I was even
able to trace how one place probably went >from grandfather to grandson even
though the name changed.
The odd thing I found is sometimes the plot number seems to move one number.
In a 1904 wedding registration, the plot is 2274 but if I look up an address
from 1910, I get an plot number that is 2275, 2276. So I am assuming that
in 1904 the father of the bride lived in the same place he did in 1910 - as
listed in the address directory - even though the address is not mentioned
in the wedding registration..
As I mentioned at the begining I keep track of the owner in previous years,
because I might find out at a later date that they are related.
Every little bit of info helps weave the story.
For example we had an approximate date for the death of my husband's great
grandmother and a nickname for his great grandfather.
from the wedding registration of his great aunt, we now know:
the great grandmother died befoe 1904 and we now know her second name
the name of the great grandfather and this ties us into other information
from JRI-Poland taking us back another 100 years.
Keep digging,
Rose Feldman
GITNER, REZNIK Litin & Kalinovka Ukraine
EPSTEIN, BOYARKSY Ruzhany, Kossovo, Mscibow Belarus
TREPPER, TREPMAN, FELDMAN, LICHT, SOICHER, SLOVIK, SZPERBER, ORENSTEIN
Warsaw Poland


Cemeteries #general

mimisimon@...
 

For the Jewish Gen Discussion Digest

Genners,
I would like to point out an exception to Stan Goodman's comment that
cemeteries do not have the location of the person's death in their databases. I
can only speak for a landsmannshaften organization's information at Mt. Hebron
Cemetery in Queens, NY. Their burials are in a database which includes,
internment number, name, age, date of burial, when the person died, *death at*,
organization, and, of course, location of the grave. Sometimes the location of
death is a hospital, a nursing home, or the person's actual home. I do not know
if their databases include the same information for individual plots, i.e., in
non organizational locations.
I, too, have found the workers in the cemetery offices very helpful and
pleasant. Clearly, they are caring people who are properly trained to be
understanding and to do whatever they can to assist family members of the
deceased. At least this has been my experience.
Regards,
Mimi Simon

Teaneck, NJ

SIMON/SLAPAK - Sislavitz, Belarus; NYC; SLOTNIK - same
WEISS - Ordarma, Hungary (Storozhnitsa, Ukr); Braddock, PA; E. Pittsburgh, PA;
Rankin, PA; ROTH - Olaszliszka, Hungary; E. Pittsburgh, PA
KLEIN - Keked, Hungary; Turtle Creek, PA; LIKTIG - Kosice, CZ;
NEMET/NEMETI - Kosice, CZ; Israel; ETTINGER - Hungary; Mt. Vernon, NY
PRINCE - Hungary; Mt. Vernon, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Cemeteries #general

mimisimon@...
 

For the Jewish Gen Discussion Digest

Genners,
I would like to point out an exception to Stan Goodman's comment that
cemeteries do not have the location of the person's death in their databases. I
can only speak for a landsmannshaften organization's information at Mt. Hebron
Cemetery in Queens, NY. Their burials are in a database which includes,
internment number, name, age, date of burial, when the person died, *death at*,
organization, and, of course, location of the grave. Sometimes the location of
death is a hospital, a nursing home, or the person's actual home. I do not know
if their databases include the same information for individual plots, i.e., in
non organizational locations.
I, too, have found the workers in the cemetery offices very helpful and
pleasant. Clearly, they are caring people who are properly trained to be
understanding and to do whatever they can to assist family members of the
deceased. At least this has been my experience.
Regards,
Mimi Simon

Teaneck, NJ

SIMON/SLAPAK - Sislavitz, Belarus; NYC; SLOTNIK - same
WEISS - Ordarma, Hungary (Storozhnitsa, Ukr); Braddock, PA; E. Pittsburgh, PA;
Rankin, PA; ROTH - Olaszliszka, Hungary; E. Pittsburgh, PA
KLEIN - Keked, Hungary; Turtle Creek, PA; LIKTIG - Kosice, CZ;
NEMET/NEMETI - Kosice, CZ; Israel; ETTINGER - Hungary; Mt. Vernon, NY
PRINCE - Hungary; Mt. Vernon, NY


William ( Bill) GOLUMBICK #general

Big Al <asilberf@...>
 

I am trying to get information on William GOLUMBICK, a body builder who
took second place in Class B in the 1959 Mr. Universe Body Building
Contest. I know he had a gym in California after that. I am trying to
find his address, phone number or if he is still alive.

Alfred M. Silberfeld
PresidentEmeritus
Jewish Genealogical Society
Palm Beach County, Florida.

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen William ( Bill) GOLUMBICK #general

Big Al <asilberf@...>
 

I am trying to get information on William GOLUMBICK, a body builder who
took second place in Class B in the 1959 Mr. Universe Body Building
Contest. I know he had a gym in California after that. I am trying to
find his address, phone number or if he is still alive.

Alfred M. Silberfeld
PresidentEmeritus
Jewish Genealogical Society
Palm Beach County, Florida.

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Jewish Soldiers dead in WWI #romania

Sorin Goldenberg <SorinG@...>
 

To all who asked me if I've ever got an answer to the question, the
answer I've got >from two different sources (thanks again) is:

There is a book containg such names :

"EVREII DIN ROMANIA IN RAZBOIUL DE REINTREGIRE A TARII (1916-1918) "
ISBN 973-92359-12-3, cost $10. Publisher - Ha Sefer, Bucharest.
It's in Romanian. The biggest problem - they do not accept credit cards.
I do not know if the book lists all the names or some names.

There are again at different places memorials to those ppl.

Regards,
Sorin Goldenberg,


Romania SIG #Romania Jewish Soldiers dead in WWI #romania

Sorin Goldenberg <SorinG@...>
 

To all who asked me if I've ever got an answer to the question, the
answer I've got >from two different sources (thanks again) is:

There is a book containg such names :

"EVREII DIN ROMANIA IN RAZBOIUL DE REINTREGIRE A TARII (1916-1918) "
ISBN 973-92359-12-3, cost $10. Publisher - Ha Sefer, Bucharest.
It's in Romanian. The biggest problem - they do not accept credit cards.
I do not know if the book lists all the names or some names.

There are again at different places memorials to those ppl.

Regards,
Sorin Goldenberg,


Seeking Max Schmalberg/Smalberg offspring #general

Main179@...
 

Dear Genners-
I am seeking any family members of Max SCHMALBERG/SMALBERG. The 1920 New
York City census listed a Max SCHMALBERG and wife "Annie" with 5 daughters-
Fannie, Lillie. Bessie, Dora, Dinah and an infant son Murray In 1920 Max was
listed as living in *Brooklyn*.
He was listed as a "butter and egg" dealer coming >from Tarnow,"Austria". The 1930
census of the *Bronx* revealed he (53 y/o) had "twicked" his name to
SMALBERG. His offfspring were listed as 6 daughters
Fannie,Lillian,Bessie,Dora ,Ruth(?) ,Anita(?) and a son Murray. I
believe he also had a infant son named William Schmalberg who died in
1915 also and was buried in Mt. Zion (N.Y. C.). His wife Annie's maiden
name was MUSCHEL. Any information on this individual and or his fmiy
especiially the possible married names of his daughters and there
whereabouts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks one and all
Sincerely,
Chuck Flack
Please reply privately if possible to HM1401@yahoo.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking Max Schmalberg/Smalberg offspring #general

Main179@...
 

Dear Genners-
I am seeking any family members of Max SCHMALBERG/SMALBERG. The 1920 New
York City census listed a Max SCHMALBERG and wife "Annie" with 5 daughters-
Fannie, Lillie. Bessie, Dora, Dinah and an infant son Murray In 1920 Max was
listed as living in *Brooklyn*.
He was listed as a "butter and egg" dealer coming >from Tarnow,"Austria". The 1930
census of the *Bronx* revealed he (53 y/o) had "twicked" his name to
SMALBERG. His offfspring were listed as 6 daughters
Fannie,Lillian,Bessie,Dora ,Ruth(?) ,Anita(?) and a son Murray. I
believe he also had a infant son named William Schmalberg who died in
1915 also and was buried in Mt. Zion (N.Y. C.). His wife Annie's maiden
name was MUSCHEL. Any information on this individual and or his fmiy
especiially the possible married names of his daughters and there
whereabouts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks one and all
Sincerely,
Chuck Flack
Please reply privately if possible to HM1401@yahoo.com


Re: Seeking Death Place For Isadore Rakoff-New Montefiore #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:50:16 UTC, sacredsisters3@aol.com
(sacredsisters3@aol.com) opined:

Hello To All

I am trying to get a death record for a great-great-uncle of mine, but
am having trouble. His name was Isadore RAKOFF. He was brother to my
great-grandfather David RAKOFF. I have found out that Isadore is buried
along with his son in New Montefiore Cemetery in Suffolk County New
York. I also have his date of death provided by the
cemetery(6/14/1938), But they could not provide the place of death. I
am assuming he died in new york, since he is buried in New york, but
that is not always the case. I am seeking help >from anyone who might be
able to help me in this area. He was 50 years of age when he died, and
was originally >from russia.

Sarah Greenberg
sacredsisters3@aol.com
People travelled far less in 1938 than they do today, so that the
probablility that he is buried where he died is higher than it might
be for a more recent death.

The cemetery can't be expected to have records of where people died,
because they thave no interest in place of death. That would be in the
death certificate. Since it is likely that he died in New York, you
should have sought that document before applying to the cemetery; your
query doesn't indicate that you did so. A Google search for the
address of the proper department in Albany >from which to request it is
the next obvious step.
--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

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not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Seeking Death Place For Isadore Rakoff-New Montefiore #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:50:16 UTC, sacredsisters3@aol.com
(sacredsisters3@aol.com) opined:

Hello To All

I am trying to get a death record for a great-great-uncle of mine, but
am having trouble. His name was Isadore RAKOFF. He was brother to my
great-grandfather David RAKOFF. I have found out that Isadore is buried
along with his son in New Montefiore Cemetery in Suffolk County New
York. I also have his date of death provided by the
cemetery(6/14/1938), But they could not provide the place of death. I
am assuming he died in new york, since he is buried in New york, but
that is not always the case. I am seeking help >from anyone who might be
able to help me in this area. He was 50 years of age when he died, and
was originally >from russia.

Sarah Greenberg
sacredsisters3@aol.com
People travelled far less in 1938 than they do today, so that the
probablility that he is buried where he died is higher than it might
be for a more recent death.

The cemetery can't be expected to have records of where people died,
because they thave no interest in place of death. That would be in the
death certificate. Since it is likely that he died in New York, you
should have sought that document before applying to the cemetery; your
query doesn't indicate that you did so. A Google search for the
address of the proper department in Albany >from which to request it is
the next obvious step.
--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form there.


Re: Best approach to determining port of entry to US #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Dear Howie,

You might want to consider trying to get copies of his naturalization
file. Unless he became a citizen very early (1880-90s, for example),
the documents could have his arrival details. At least, they'll
probably have other information you'll find interesting and useful.

You'l want to narrow down your search as much as possible.

If he lived in a certain area most of his live, for the time being,
assume he became a citizen there. But remember this is only an
assumption,and you may have to consider other regions as well

You'll want to find him in as many US censuses as you
can. Generally, they asked the year the person became a citizen, and
if not a citizen, whether they'd applied ("Pa") or were still a
foreigner ("Al"). If you're lucky, you'll find concensus, and have a
specific year or two to search.

With that information,you can research how to get citizenship records
for your particular locality - JewishGen Discussion Group Archives
can be a good resource. Some indexes may be online, some may on
microfilm and obtainable, and some may be neither.

Keep in mind his name may have been "Americanized" or changed radically.

Good luck!

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Best approach to determining port of entry to US #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Dear Howie,

You might want to consider trying to get copies of his naturalization
file. Unless he became a citizen very early (1880-90s, for example),
the documents could have his arrival details. At least, they'll
probably have other information you'll find interesting and useful.

You'l want to narrow down your search as much as possible.

If he lived in a certain area most of his live, for the time being,
assume he became a citizen there. But remember this is only an
assumption,and you may have to consider other regions as well

You'll want to find him in as many US censuses as you
can. Generally, they asked the year the person became a citizen, and
if not a citizen, whether they'd applied ("Pa") or were still a
foreigner ("Al"). If you're lucky, you'll find concensus, and have a
specific year or two to search.

With that information,you can research how to get citizenship records
for your particular locality - JewishGen Discussion Group Archives
can be a good resource. Some indexes may be online, some may on
microfilm and obtainable, and some may be neither.

Keep in mind his name may have been "Americanized" or changed radically.

Good luck!

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia