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Re: Early marriages with no issue, etc.- PASAROW
#general
Alexandra Alznauer <petiealznauer@...>
My mother had an early marriage at the outbreak of World War Two (She
graduated >from high school a couple of weeks after Pearl Harbor). It did not last long. She had no children with this young man. There was no mention of this marriage on the very "complete" family tree which her sister had made (which even included scuicides and bad step-mothers!) I learned of the marriage when I was 14 years old only because my mother kept her old Social Security card with the name "PASAROW" on it. I am looking for any information on this Alan PASAROW (approxiamtely 83 years old) who was in the U.S. Army during WWII, his brother, Robert PASAROW o(approximately 8 years old) or his sister or any of their descendants. The PASAROW lived in Los Angeles in the 1940's. Aexandra Alznauer San Francisco, CA SILVERMAN, NAYFACH, LICHTENSTEIN, KARP, LURIE "Subject: Re: Early marraiges with no issue, etc. From: Rachel Slansky < rachellad@earthlink.net > Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 11:06:39 -0800 X-Message-Number: 31 I once made a big breakthrough in a brick wall in my own research. The reason it had been so hard? My branch had not felt it important to record the wife in the first marriage as they were all related to the second wife. The people descended >from the first wife had no record of the second for the same reason. Both of the wives had the same first name. If someone on either side had recorded *both* marriages, a connection that took years to figure out could have been made instantly with one communication. I have also contacted people who are descended >from second marriages following one with no issue who were not only unaware that there was a first marriage, but were unwilling to believe it we were researching the same family. After all, how could someone in the family have had a marriage they didn't know about? Rachel Portland, OR"
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Early marriages with no issue, etc.- PASAROW
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Alexandra Alznauer <petiealznauer@...>
My mother had an early marriage at the outbreak of World War Two (She
graduated >from high school a couple of weeks after Pearl Harbor). It did not last long. She had no children with this young man. There was no mention of this marriage on the very "complete" family tree which her sister had made (which even included scuicides and bad step-mothers!) I learned of the marriage when I was 14 years old only because my mother kept her old Social Security card with the name "PASAROW" on it. I am looking for any information on this Alan PASAROW (approxiamtely 83 years old) who was in the U.S. Army during WWII, his brother, Robert PASAROW o(approximately 8 years old) or his sister or any of their descendants. The PASAROW lived in Los Angeles in the 1940's. Aexandra Alznauer San Francisco, CA SILVERMAN, NAYFACH, LICHTENSTEIN, KARP, LURIE "Subject: Re: Early marraiges with no issue, etc. From: Rachel Slansky < rachellad@earthlink.net > Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 11:06:39 -0800 X-Message-Number: 31 I once made a big breakthrough in a brick wall in my own research. The reason it had been so hard? My branch had not felt it important to record the wife in the first marriage as they were all related to the second wife. The people descended >from the first wife had no record of the second for the same reason. Both of the wives had the same first name. If someone on either side had recorded *both* marriages, a connection that took years to figure out could have been made instantly with one communication. I have also contacted people who are descended >from second marriages following one with no issue who were not only unaware that there was a first marriage, but were unwilling to believe it we were researching the same family. After all, how could someone in the family have had a marriage they didn't know about? Rachel Portland, OR"
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Re: YUFA not JUFA
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Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 04:44:10 UTC, anitac47@optonline.net (ac) opined:
The name is YUFA (although both would be pronounced the same, it is spelledNo. "Lovely" it may be, but that letter is "YOO". "YAH" looks like a backward R. Whether either of these characters is translated with an initial Y or J is fairly arbitrary, and depends on the conventions of the target language. Transliterating with a Polish, Czech, or German mindset would result in J, which would confuse most Americans, who would prefer Y. -- Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel Searching: NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is: http://www.hashkedim.com For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form there.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: YUFA not JUFA
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Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 04:44:10 UTC, anitac47@optonline.net (ac) opined:
The name is YUFA (although both would be pronounced the same, it is spelledNo. "Lovely" it may be, but that letter is "YOO". "YAH" looks like a backward R. Whether either of these characters is translated with an initial Y or J is fairly arbitrary, and depends on the conventions of the target language. Transliterating with a Polish, Czech, or German mindset would result in J, which would confuse most Americans, who would prefer Y. -- Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel Searching: NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is: http://www.hashkedim.com For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form there.
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Re: names assigned at Ellis Island - Last message on this topic
#germany
TamarDC <t.duke.cohan@...>
MODERATOR NOTE: The opinion expressed in the first paragraph below
is that of the writer. If you wish to contest this please do so by private email. This topic is closed in the Forum. MODERATOR Nope - the Ellis Island officials never gave names. The way it worked was that, on the way to the port, the administration of the ship compiled a manifest of passengers and this was passed along to the immigrations officials. There never was any registration at Ellis Island - just medical checks. George Arnstein in Washington, DC <george.arnstein@verizon.net> wrote: I tend to agree, but there is or was Aron CopelandThere is a wonderful movie that discusses this extensively discusses this question. It's called The Language of Names and was made by a man called Alan Berliner. The movie is about him seeking other people with the same name and about the meaning of names. You can probably get it at your public library (that's how I got it). Well worth the effort! Best wishes, Tamar Duke-Cohan Newton, MA <t.duke.cohan@rcn.com>
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German SIG #Germany Re: names assigned at Ellis Island - Last message on this topic
#germany
TamarDC <t.duke.cohan@...>
MODERATOR NOTE: The opinion expressed in the first paragraph below
is that of the writer. If you wish to contest this please do so by private email. This topic is closed in the Forum. MODERATOR Nope - the Ellis Island officials never gave names. The way it worked was that, on the way to the port, the administration of the ship compiled a manifest of passengers and this was passed along to the immigrations officials. There never was any registration at Ellis Island - just medical checks. George Arnstein in Washington, DC <george.arnstein@verizon.net> wrote: I tend to agree, but there is or was Aron CopelandThere is a wonderful movie that discusses this extensively discusses this question. It's called The Language of Names and was made by a man called Alan Berliner. The movie is about him seeking other people with the same name and about the meaning of names. You can probably get it at your public library (that's how I got it). Well worth the effort! Best wishes, Tamar Duke-Cohan Newton, MA <t.duke.cohan@rcn.com>
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Family Tree software
#general
BrendaJF <brendajf@...>
Is there any consensus on the positives and negatives of DoroTree compared
to Family Tree Maker? Brenda Freedland Pangborn brendajf@bigplanet.com Searching: FREEDLAND and FAXSTEIN -- Zhitomir, Kiyev, Radomyshl UKRAINE MILINSKY/MILINSKI and WOLFSON -- Annopol, Anopol'ye UKRAINE MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Family Tree software
#general
BrendaJF <brendajf@...>
Is there any consensus on the positives and negatives of DoroTree compared
to Family Tree Maker? Brenda Freedland Pangborn brendajf@bigplanet.com Searching: FREEDLAND and FAXSTEIN -- Zhitomir, Kiyev, Radomyshl UKRAINE MILINSKY/MILINSKI and WOLFSON -- Annopol, Anopol'ye UKRAINE MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.
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Announcing version 2.1 of DoroTree - Beith Hatefutsoth endorses DoroTree instead of Ilanot
#scandinavia
Seth Jacobson <seth@...>
DoroTree announces that the new software version 2.10.03 has been released.
DoroTree offers all registered users of any 2.x version free upgrade (through download) to the higher version. Registered users of the much older version 1.5 may apply for a special discount upgrading to the new version. For details, contact DoroTree directly at dt-support@dorotree.com. DoroTree is today the dominating software for Jewish Genealogy. In 2004, "Beit Hatefutsoth" (The Diaspora Museum) endorsed DoroTree as its recommended software for Jewish genealogy. Owners of "Ilanot", the software previously promoted by "Beit Hatefutsoth", may be entitled to an upgrade discount for migrating >from "Ilanot" to "DoroTree" and should contact bhgnlgy@post.tau.ac.il for more details. The full version of DoroTree can be purchased at the JewishGenMall (www.jewishgenmall.org). DoroTree Technologies Ltd. Jerusalem Israel http://www.dorotree.com/
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Scandinavia SIG #Scandinavia Announcing version 2.1 of DoroTree - Beith Hatefutsoth endorses DoroTree instead of Ilanot
#scandinavia
Seth Jacobson <seth@...>
DoroTree announces that the new software version 2.10.03 has been released.
DoroTree offers all registered users of any 2.x version free upgrade (through download) to the higher version. Registered users of the much older version 1.5 may apply for a special discount upgrading to the new version. For details, contact DoroTree directly at dt-support@dorotree.com. DoroTree is today the dominating software for Jewish Genealogy. In 2004, "Beit Hatefutsoth" (The Diaspora Museum) endorsed DoroTree as its recommended software for Jewish genealogy. Owners of "Ilanot", the software previously promoted by "Beit Hatefutsoth", may be entitled to an upgrade discount for migrating >from "Ilanot" to "DoroTree" and should contact bhgnlgy@post.tau.ac.il for more details. The full version of DoroTree can be purchased at the JewishGenMall (www.jewishgenmall.org). DoroTree Technologies Ltd. Jerusalem Israel http://www.dorotree.com/
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Sobedruhy Jewish History website
#austria-czech
Dear List Members:
My grandfather, Karl Preisler, was born in Teplice-Sobedruhy, CZ in 1893. I have traced his mother's family back to the early 1700's in this village whose inhabitants were once mostly Jewish. Sobedruhy, known in German as Soborten, was one of the oldest Jewish communities in Bohemia. The Jewish community there ceased to exist in 1938 after the border regions of Czechoslovakia were annexed by Nazi Germany. I have created a modest website to serve as a virtual memorial to this Jewish community. It is an on-going project and I hope to continue to add materials to the site. I would love to hear >from anyone who may have family or ancestral connections to Sobedruhy and also the adjacent city of Teplice. The web address is: www.sobedruhy.genealogyphotography.com Thanks, Dobry Den & Shalom, Julian H. Preisler Falling Waters, West Virginia
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Sobedruhy Jewish History website
#austria-czech
Dear List Members:
My grandfather, Karl Preisler, was born in Teplice-Sobedruhy, CZ in 1893. I have traced his mother's family back to the early 1700's in this village whose inhabitants were once mostly Jewish. Sobedruhy, known in German as Soborten, was one of the oldest Jewish communities in Bohemia. The Jewish community there ceased to exist in 1938 after the border regions of Czechoslovakia were annexed by Nazi Germany. I have created a modest website to serve as a virtual memorial to this Jewish community. It is an on-going project and I hope to continue to add materials to the site. I would love to hear >from anyone who may have family or ancestral connections to Sobedruhy and also the adjacent city of Teplice. The web address is: www.sobedruhy.genealogyphotography.com Thanks, Dobry Den & Shalom, Julian H. Preisler Falling Waters, West Virginia
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Lazarsfeld
#austria-czech
annjen@...
Thankyou to those who have responded to my query. For many years I
have been trying to discover why our families hid their identities. The possible new name on our family tree, LAZARSFELD, is a real gold mine, particularly as Paul LAZARSFELD (b.1901, Grad Uni Vienna 1925)worked in the same field of study that I am in, and appears in my bibliographies! Apparently Paul's parents were arrested in Vienna in 1935, and his mother, Sofie MUNK, a psychotherapist had previously been arrested for her relationship with Friedrich ADLER, who shot Count Karl STURGHK in 1916. Paul LAZARSFELD's father was Robert, a solicitor. I find no evidence of their fate after 1935.I read that Paul's doctoral thesis dealt with an aspect of EINSTEIN's theory, which I thought would have been relatively (##) unknown so early in the century. I wonder if anyone can shed further light on the connections between some of these people and events. Ann Jensen WARNER, HNILICEK (variations), VON GERLACH, LAZARSFELD, MUNK
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Lazarsfeld
#austria-czech
annjen@...
Thankyou to those who have responded to my query. For many years I
have been trying to discover why our families hid their identities. The possible new name on our family tree, LAZARSFELD, is a real gold mine, particularly as Paul LAZARSFELD (b.1901, Grad Uni Vienna 1925)worked in the same field of study that I am in, and appears in my bibliographies! Apparently Paul's parents were arrested in Vienna in 1935, and his mother, Sofie MUNK, a psychotherapist had previously been arrested for her relationship with Friedrich ADLER, who shot Count Karl STURGHK in 1916. Paul LAZARSFELD's father was Robert, a solicitor. I find no evidence of their fate after 1935.I read that Paul's doctoral thesis dealt with an aspect of EINSTEIN's theory, which I thought would have been relatively (##) unknown so early in the century. I wonder if anyone can shed further light on the connections between some of these people and events. Ann Jensen WARNER, HNILICEK (variations), VON GERLACH, LAZARSFELD, MUNK
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Rubel family
#galicia
Susana <sem005@...>
Maybe someone knows the family of RUBEL Nathan Wolf >from Montreal, Canada.
In one of the testimony pages I saw in the Internet, it is one written by Mr RUBEL. He wrote in the memory of his mother, Gitel MAMBER. I dont really know the connection bitewing Gitel and my MAMBER family, her husband Isak RUBEL was a witness in my grandfather sister birth certificate. Her name was Elka MAMBER, and Gitel MAMBER was also an Elka (Elka KNOLLER). Gitla Mamber was born in Przemysl 1871 Nathan Wolf was born in Przemysl 1894 he has brothers: Dawid b. 1892 Abraham Salomon 1890 Israel 1893 Yosef 1897 Susana Mamber Englender sem005@netvision.net.il Raanana Israel
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Rubel family
#galicia
Susana <sem005@...>
Maybe someone knows the family of RUBEL Nathan Wolf >from Montreal, Canada.
In one of the testimony pages I saw in the Internet, it is one written by Mr RUBEL. He wrote in the memory of his mother, Gitel MAMBER. I dont really know the connection bitewing Gitel and my MAMBER family, her husband Isak RUBEL was a witness in my grandfather sister birth certificate. Her name was Elka MAMBER, and Gitel MAMBER was also an Elka (Elka KNOLLER). Gitla Mamber was born in Przemysl 1871 Nathan Wolf was born in Przemysl 1894 he has brothers: Dawid b. 1892 Abraham Salomon 1890 Israel 1893 Yosef 1897 Susana Mamber Englender sem005@netvision.net.il Raanana Israel
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Canadian bond for relatives trying to leave Rumania (via Austria to Italy and then to Canada)
#general
Rebecca Gerber <beccamd@...>
This is a follow-up post. Apparently my great-grandfather in Winnipeg,
Canada, had a couple of relatives >from Rumania who had managed to get to Vienna and were on their way to Italy to try and board a boat to Canada. My great-grandfather was required to send a "bond" or "surety" that the relatives were not going to stay in Italy. I would assume that he also had to set up some sort of Canadian "sponsorship" so that they could come to Canada. All of this would have taken place around 1938. Any ideas where to find the paperwork in Canada for the "sponsorship"? Please respond privately Rebecca Gerber Glenview, IL beccamd@ix.netcom.com
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Canadian bond for relatives trying to leave Rumania (via Austria to Italy and then to Canada)
#general
Rebecca Gerber <beccamd@...>
This is a follow-up post. Apparently my great-grandfather in Winnipeg,
Canada, had a couple of relatives >from Rumania who had managed to get to Vienna and were on their way to Italy to try and board a boat to Canada. My great-grandfather was required to send a "bond" or "surety" that the relatives were not going to stay in Italy. I would assume that he also had to set up some sort of Canadian "sponsorship" so that they could come to Canada. All of this would have taken place around 1938. Any ideas where to find the paperwork in Canada for the "sponsorship"? Please respond privately Rebecca Gerber Glenview, IL beccamd@ix.netcom.com
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Yiddish translation VM5471
#general
Rose & Robert Raymen <rr.raymen@...>
Dear Genners
I require assistance in the translation of a Yiddish photo inscription. The photo is of my father Joseph ZYLBERSTEIN and three unidentified individuals and is dated Danzig 1927. This can be viewed at VM5471 http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html Please respond privately. Thanks in advance. Regards Rose Raymen rr.raymen@optusnet.com.au MODERATOR NOTE: The direct ling to this image is: http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5471
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Yiddish translation VM5471
#general
Rose & Robert Raymen <rr.raymen@...>
Dear Genners
I require assistance in the translation of a Yiddish photo inscription. The photo is of my father Joseph ZYLBERSTEIN and three unidentified individuals and is dated Danzig 1927. This can be viewed at VM5471 http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html Please respond privately. Thanks in advance. Regards Rose Raymen rr.raymen@optusnet.com.au MODERATOR NOTE: The direct ling to this image is: http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5471
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