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new book on Galicia by Wunder #rabbinic

Benjamin Richler <benjaminr@...>
 

Just published (Sept. 2005)

Grandeur and Glory - Hod Vehadar; remnants of Jewish art in Galicia.
Vol. I: Eastern Galicia, A-O, by Meir Wunder, with Benjamin Lukin
and Boris Khaimovich. Institute for Commemoration of Galician Jewry
- Jerusalem Center for Documentation of Diaspora Heritage. Jerusalem
2005.

[10], 173, [5] pages. Glossy paper. Photographs on almost every
page, mainly b/w with some in colour, .

Covers 95 communities arranged in alphabetical order. A second
volume will cover letters P-Z (84 communities). Includes brief
historical details about each community, bibliographies and
photographs, mostly of synagogues and tombstones.

Bilingual text in English and Hebrew.

May be purchased >from the author:

Rabbi Meir Wunder
13 Panim Meirot St.
Jerusalem 94423
Telefax: 972-2-5372014

Shana Tova
Benjamin Richler

Institute of Microfilmed Hebrew Manuscripts

[Moderator's Note: This message is posted as a one-time
advertisement for the referenced book.]


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic new book on Galicia by Wunder #rabbinic

Benjamin Richler <benjaminr@...>
 

Just published (Sept. 2005)

Grandeur and Glory - Hod Vehadar; remnants of Jewish art in Galicia.
Vol. I: Eastern Galicia, A-O, by Meir Wunder, with Benjamin Lukin
and Boris Khaimovich. Institute for Commemoration of Galician Jewry
- Jerusalem Center for Documentation of Diaspora Heritage. Jerusalem
2005.

[10], 173, [5] pages. Glossy paper. Photographs on almost every
page, mainly b/w with some in colour, .

Covers 95 communities arranged in alphabetical order. A second
volume will cover letters P-Z (84 communities). Includes brief
historical details about each community, bibliographies and
photographs, mostly of synagogues and tombstones.

Bilingual text in English and Hebrew.

May be purchased >from the author:

Rabbi Meir Wunder
13 Panim Meirot St.
Jerusalem 94423
Telefax: 972-2-5372014

Shana Tova
Benjamin Richler

Institute of Microfilmed Hebrew Manuscripts

[Moderator's Note: This message is posted as a one-time
advertisement for the referenced book.]


KANTOROVITZ, SCHATZ - Vilna Gaon's descendants #rabbinic

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

I recently posted a message regarding a supposed link to the family
of Reb' Chaim of Volozhin. I mentioned there that we have a rather
superficial and questionable family tradition of a family link to
the Gaon of Vilna which I would like to check.

I should say that I've perused Chaim Friedman's "Eliayahu's
Branches" and have corresponded with him.

In the same very skimpy family chart which I mentioned previously
there is scribbled a link to the Gaon through my KANTOR(OVITZ)
lineage. And >from another side but on the same chart appears the
name SCHATZ.

Interestingly, both names appear as descendants of the Gaon but both
names are pretty common since again by strange coincidence they mean
Cantor or Shaliach Tzibur. As to the KANTOR side we are not sure if
it is KANTOR or KANTOROVITZ (as appear in Friedman's book). Two
sibbling of previous generations have documents each written
differently.

As to SCHATZ we know that my ggggrandfather Yoseph was a chazan
(cantor) in Pinsk but we are not sure if this was his family name
also or just his profession and that we never had his real family
name-if he had one (beginning 19th cent. in Pinsk). His daughter
(my gggrandmother was Sarah Hinde).

Our KANTOR(OVITZ) ancestors are >from Slonim. My ggggrandfather was
Shlomo ben Eliezer (possibly a Rosh Yeshiva in Karlin) (and Rachel)
ben Yaacov Moshe ben Avraham. I've explored this line before in
this group and received replies that there were two lineages in
Slonim with the same names of fathers and sons so that there could
be a mistake on our family chart presuming that we were >from the
Gaon.

Shana Tova, Ktiva ve'chatima tova to all. May we all be blessed
with a Happy and Healthy New Year.

Yoni Ben-Ari
Efrat, Israel


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic KANTOROVITZ, SCHATZ - Vilna Gaon's descendants #rabbinic

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

I recently posted a message regarding a supposed link to the family
of Reb' Chaim of Volozhin. I mentioned there that we have a rather
superficial and questionable family tradition of a family link to
the Gaon of Vilna which I would like to check.

I should say that I've perused Chaim Friedman's "Eliayahu's
Branches" and have corresponded with him.

In the same very skimpy family chart which I mentioned previously
there is scribbled a link to the Gaon through my KANTOR(OVITZ)
lineage. And >from another side but on the same chart appears the
name SCHATZ.

Interestingly, both names appear as descendants of the Gaon but both
names are pretty common since again by strange coincidence they mean
Cantor or Shaliach Tzibur. As to the KANTOR side we are not sure if
it is KANTOR or KANTOROVITZ (as appear in Friedman's book). Two
sibbling of previous generations have documents each written
differently.

As to SCHATZ we know that my ggggrandfather Yoseph was a chazan
(cantor) in Pinsk but we are not sure if this was his family name
also or just his profession and that we never had his real family
name-if he had one (beginning 19th cent. in Pinsk). His daughter
(my gggrandmother was Sarah Hinde).

Our KANTOR(OVITZ) ancestors are >from Slonim. My ggggrandfather was
Shlomo ben Eliezer (possibly a Rosh Yeshiva in Karlin) (and Rachel)
ben Yaacov Moshe ben Avraham. I've explored this line before in
this group and received replies that there were two lineages in
Slonim with the same names of fathers and sons so that there could
be a mistake on our family chart presuming that we were >from the
Gaon.

Shana Tova, Ktiva ve'chatima tova to all. May we all be blessed
with a Happy and Healthy New Year.

Yoni Ben-Ari
Efrat, Israel


Rabbi Elijah Ragoler [was: Rabbi Eliyahu or Elye Ragoler] #rabbinic

Menachem Butler <menachembutler@...>
 

On 2005.10.03, "Stanley H. Judd" <stanleyjudd@earthlink.net> wrote:

[...] I would appreciate any data, ideas or suggestions [...]
Rav-SIG'ers:

For biographical information about R. Elijah Ragoler, see The Jewish
Encyclopedia's entry for him, which can be found online:

http://jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=67&letter=R&search=Ragoler

For R. Elijah Ragoler's restrained opposition to the Reform, see
page 58 of Judith Bleich's "Rabbinic Responses to Nonobservence in
the Modern Era" in "Jewish Tradition and the Nontraditional Jew,"
(Northvale, NJ, 1992) the published proceedings of the second
Orthodox Forum, convened by Yeshiva University in 1990.

See the various biographies of R. Zvi Hirsch Chajes, et. al., for
more results about Ragoler's role in opposition to the Reform.

Menachem Butler


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Rabbi Elijah Ragoler [was: Rabbi Eliyahu or Elye Ragoler] #rabbinic

Menachem Butler <menachembutler@...>
 

On 2005.10.03, "Stanley H. Judd" <stanleyjudd@earthlink.net> wrote:

[...] I would appreciate any data, ideas or suggestions [...]
Rav-SIG'ers:

For biographical information about R. Elijah Ragoler, see The Jewish
Encyclopedia's entry for him, which can be found online:

http://jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=67&letter=R&search=Ragoler

For R. Elijah Ragoler's restrained opposition to the Reform, see
page 58 of Judith Bleich's "Rabbinic Responses to Nonobservence in
the Modern Era" in "Jewish Tradition and the Nontraditional Jew,"
(Northvale, NJ, 1992) the published proceedings of the second
Orthodox Forum, convened by Yeshiva University in 1990.

See the various biographies of R. Zvi Hirsch Chajes, et. al., for
more results about Ragoler's role in opposition to the Reform.

Menachem Butler


Belarus interest group forming in Los Angeles -Dave Fox's visit #general

GDLProject@...
 

Dear Jewishgenners whose ancestors came >from what is now Belarus, or what
was included in the territory of Belarus during the 19th and 18th centuries
(i.e. when it was part of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania):

Dave Fox, the Founder and former Coordinator of the Belarus SIG, will be in
Los Angeles on Sunday, October 23rd, and has made time available to meet with
the JGS Los Angeles in an informal gathering. This is an exciting
opportunity to learn first hand about the ongoing projects of the Belarus SIG.

We will also be able to meet each other and explore possibilities for a
local face-too-face Belarus interest group (17th-21st centuries).
Our plan is for this ongoing local group to explore research projects and
have more experienced Belarus researchers mentor those with less experience.
In the future, the JGSLA will be organizing other interest groups.

The first step is to determine how many people are interested and able to
attend the Belarus interest group meeting on Sunday afternoon, October 23rd -
and based on that, we can arrange for a meeting place. We will be gathering
information >from people in the Los Angeles area and summarizing it to share
with each other at the meeting.

You do not have to be a member of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Los
Angeles in order to participate in this meeting, but you are invited to join.

Please respond to David Hoffman, at DBH12345@aol.com.

David Hoffman
Member, Board of Directors, JGSLA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Belarus interest group forming in Los Angeles -Dave Fox's visit #general

GDLProject@...
 

Dear Jewishgenners whose ancestors came >from what is now Belarus, or what
was included in the territory of Belarus during the 19th and 18th centuries
(i.e. when it was part of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania):

Dave Fox, the Founder and former Coordinator of the Belarus SIG, will be in
Los Angeles on Sunday, October 23rd, and has made time available to meet with
the JGS Los Angeles in an informal gathering. This is an exciting
opportunity to learn first hand about the ongoing projects of the Belarus SIG.

We will also be able to meet each other and explore possibilities for a
local face-too-face Belarus interest group (17th-21st centuries).
Our plan is for this ongoing local group to explore research projects and
have more experienced Belarus researchers mentor those with less experience.
In the future, the JGSLA will be organizing other interest groups.

The first step is to determine how many people are interested and able to
attend the Belarus interest group meeting on Sunday afternoon, October 23rd -
and based on that, we can arrange for a meeting place. We will be gathering
information >from people in the Los Angeles area and summarizing it to share
with each other at the meeting.

You do not have to be a member of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Los
Angeles in order to participate in this meeting, but you are invited to join.

Please respond to David Hoffman, at DBH12345@aol.com.

David Hoffman
Member, Board of Directors, JGSLA


Re: Black Bread Disease ? What is this? #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Howie Axelrod" <highwind1@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:11k8k11839lvnb9m86b30kaoq2d7r1po9u@4ax.com...
My Grandfathe >from Russia / Polandr is alleged to have died from
"Black Bread Disease". It is apparently a Europeon term. Anyone have
any idea as to what this is?
I am not a physician and I have not heard of the disease and there is no
reference to such on Google (which I assume that you had already checked).
But I have found this reference to "Black bread mould" (mold, US).
http://www.the7thfire.com/EarthWright/Lechenya_Meera/hazards_of_molds_and_mildew.htm

Any help?

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Black Bread Disease ? What is this? #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Howie Axelrod" <highwind1@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:11k8k11839lvnb9m86b30kaoq2d7r1po9u@4ax.com...
My Grandfathe >from Russia / Polandr is alleged to have died from
"Black Bread Disease". It is apparently a Europeon term. Anyone have
any idea as to what this is?
I am not a physician and I have not heard of the disease and there is no
reference to such on Google (which I assume that you had already checked).
But I have found this reference to "Black bread mould" (mold, US).
http://www.the7thfire.com/EarthWright/Lechenya_Meera/hazards_of_molds_and_mildew.htm

Any help?

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)


Re: Black Bread Disease ? What is this? #general

janicemsj@...
 

At 6:15 PM -0400 10/5/05, Howie Axelrod wrote:

My Grandfathe >from Russia / Polandr is alleged to have died from
"Black Bread Disease". It is apparently a Europeon term. Anyone have
any idea as to what this is?
Possibly ergot?

Janice Sellers
Oakland, CA
--
Researching: GORODETSKY, SCHNEIDERMAN, COHEN, KARDISH; ORLOWSKY, OBERSTEIN,
PEREDEIKO/TERERDEIKO, LUBINSKY, HEFT, RACIN/ROSSIN; BRAININ, BINDERMAN,
JAFFE; NOVITSKY, YELSKY, BLOOM, PERLMAN/PERLMUTTER; STRUHL/McSTROUL,
FRIEDMAN


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Black Bread Disease ? What is this? #general

janicemsj@...
 

At 6:15 PM -0400 10/5/05, Howie Axelrod wrote:

My Grandfathe >from Russia / Polandr is alleged to have died from
"Black Bread Disease". It is apparently a Europeon term. Anyone have
any idea as to what this is?
Possibly ergot?

Janice Sellers
Oakland, CA
--
Researching: GORODETSKY, SCHNEIDERMAN, COHEN, KARDISH; ORLOWSKY, OBERSTEIN,
PEREDEIKO/TERERDEIKO, LUBINSKY, HEFT, RACIN/ROSSIN; BRAININ, BINDERMAN,
JAFFE; NOVITSKY, YELSKY, BLOOM, PERLMAN/PERLMUTTER; STRUHL/McSTROUL,
FRIEDMAN


IGS Tel-Aviv Branch & SIG Eretz Israel- There are no stories of places - There are stories of people #general

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

First we would like to wish a "Shana Tova ve Gemar Hatima Tova" to all of
our members and their families. The holidays are the perfect time to
collect information and stories >from those family members you meet at those
various holiday meals, or at least to find out who knows what, so you can
contact them after the holidays.

Our guest for the evening is Itay Bechor, the author of the book "Paamon
Zaduk" (The Cracked Bell). The lecture and the book deal with the stories of
the seventy families who immigrated >from Romania and were the first settlers
in Zichkron Yaacov. The collection of short personal stories in this book,
form the larger story of all those who settled in Eretz Israel.

The meeting will take place on Monday October 10, 2005 at Beit Hatanach,
16 Rothschild Blvd., Tel-Aviv, at 19:00. The meeting will be in Hebrew. There
is a 20 shekel entrance fee for non-members. You are cordially invited to
use our library which is open >from 18:00-19:00, and consult other members
about your genealogy quests.

Registration for the first Annual Yom Iyun Family Roots in the Land of
Israel and in the World is starting. You can register at the meeting, or
directly by mail. All the information can be found on the website
http://www.isragen.org.il/NROS/YY2005/
The yom iyun is to be held on November 28, 2005 at the Diaspora Museum, at
Tel-Aviv University Campus. The number of seats is limited, a few places are
left. Early registration fee 65 NIS.

For further information you can contact: Rose Feldman at:
rosef@post.tau.ac.il or at: 03- 641 3856 in the evenings.

The Israel Genealogy Society
igs@isragen.org.il
www.isragen.org.il
P.O.Box 4270 Jerusalem 91041
Chana Furman ehfurman@netvision.net.il Phone: (972) (8) 688 0884

* * Upcoming meetings * * *


Nov. 14, 2005: IGS Annual General Meeting at Beit Hatanach, 16 Rothschild
Blvd. Tel-Aviv

Nov. 28, 2005: IGS Annual Yom Iyun Family Roots in the Land of Israel and in
the World, Beit Hatefuzot, Tel-Aviv

Dec. 12, 2005: IGS Tel-Aviv Branch - The Pickholz Families of East Galicia -
A Single Surname Project.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen IGS Tel-Aviv Branch & SIG Eretz Israel- There are no stories of places - There are stories of people #general

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

First we would like to wish a "Shana Tova ve Gemar Hatima Tova" to all of
our members and their families. The holidays are the perfect time to
collect information and stories >from those family members you meet at those
various holiday meals, or at least to find out who knows what, so you can
contact them after the holidays.

Our guest for the evening is Itay Bechor, the author of the book "Paamon
Zaduk" (The Cracked Bell). The lecture and the book deal with the stories of
the seventy families who immigrated >from Romania and were the first settlers
in Zichkron Yaacov. The collection of short personal stories in this book,
form the larger story of all those who settled in Eretz Israel.

The meeting will take place on Monday October 10, 2005 at Beit Hatanach,
16 Rothschild Blvd., Tel-Aviv, at 19:00. The meeting will be in Hebrew. There
is a 20 shekel entrance fee for non-members. You are cordially invited to
use our library which is open >from 18:00-19:00, and consult other members
about your genealogy quests.

Registration for the first Annual Yom Iyun Family Roots in the Land of
Israel and in the World is starting. You can register at the meeting, or
directly by mail. All the information can be found on the website
http://www.isragen.org.il/NROS/YY2005/
The yom iyun is to be held on November 28, 2005 at the Diaspora Museum, at
Tel-Aviv University Campus. The number of seats is limited, a few places are
left. Early registration fee 65 NIS.

For further information you can contact: Rose Feldman at:
rosef@post.tau.ac.il or at: 03- 641 3856 in the evenings.

The Israel Genealogy Society
igs@isragen.org.il
www.isragen.org.il
P.O.Box 4270 Jerusalem 91041
Chana Furman ehfurman@netvision.net.il Phone: (972) (8) 688 0884

* * Upcoming meetings * * *


Nov. 14, 2005: IGS Annual General Meeting at Beit Hatanach, 16 Rothschild
Blvd. Tel-Aviv

Nov. 28, 2005: IGS Annual Yom Iyun Family Roots in the Land of Israel and in
the World, Beit Hatefuzot, Tel-Aviv

Dec. 12, 2005: IGS Tel-Aviv Branch - The Pickholz Families of East Galicia -
A Single Surname Project.


(disregard my earlier incomplete email) Ukraine Database Project 2 #ukraine

Raymond Cannata <cannata2@...>
 

Alter TSIBELEVSKY (CIBULEVSKY / SIEBELEWSKY / later SIEBEL)/ 1865-1911/
pharmacist/ Elizavetgrad (Yelisbetgrad, now Kirovoghrad), Kherson gub./
1865-1891/ Apprenticeship and a degree >from the medical faculty of the
University of Kharkov, of "Apothecary's Assistant", 4 Dec. 1890.

Katia (Gittel) POBERJESKY (POBERESKY / later POBER)/ 1869-1940 / nurse /
Elizavetgrad (Yelisbetgrad, now Kirovoghrad), Kherson gub. / 1869-1891 /
allegedly trained as a physician, poss. at Univ. of Kharkov, but no proof of
this yet discovered.

Bentsion TSIBELEVSKY (CIBULEVSKY / SIEBELEWSKY / later SIEBEL)/ 1871-1922/
tailor/ Elizavetgrad (Yelisbetgrad, now Kirovoghrad), Kherson gub. (poss.
Jaroswet, Kherson at some point)/ 1871-1905/ Apprenticeship unknown.

Yasha (Jasha / Jacob) POBERJESKY (POBERESKY / later POBER)/ 1888-1970 /
watchmaker / Elizavetgrad (Yelisbetgrad, now Kirovoghrad), Kherson gub. /
1888-1904 / training unknown. (Once in America he continued as a watchmaker
/ jeweler, but he was mostly a tailor. One record lists him as a
"dentist!")

Ray Cannata
NJ, USA

Searching names:
DASHEVSKY / DASHEWSKY of Elizavetgrad (Kirovograd), Kherson, Ukraine
FULNEROW / FELZEROW of Elizavetgrad (Kirovograd), Kherson, Ukraine
POBER / POBERESKY of Elizavetgrad (Kirovograd), Kherson, Ukraine
RUBEL of Elizavetgrad (Kirovograd), Kherson, Ukraine
SIEBEL / TSIBULEVSKY / SIEBELEWSKY / CIBULEVSKY of Elizavetgrad
(Kirovograd), Kherson, Ukraine
TROTSKY of Elizavetgrad (Kirovograd), Kherson, Ukraine
BRAVER of Orlya / Orla, Grodno or Lida, Belarus
LIFSITZ / LIPSHITZ of Orlya / Orla, Grodno or Lida, Belarus
KIRSCHNER / KIRSHNER / KIRZNER of Orlya / Orla, Grodno or Lida, Belarus


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine (disregard my earlier incomplete email) Ukraine Database Project 2 #ukraine

Raymond Cannata <cannata2@...>
 

Alter TSIBELEVSKY (CIBULEVSKY / SIEBELEWSKY / later SIEBEL)/ 1865-1911/
pharmacist/ Elizavetgrad (Yelisbetgrad, now Kirovoghrad), Kherson gub./
1865-1891/ Apprenticeship and a degree >from the medical faculty of the
University of Kharkov, of "Apothecary's Assistant", 4 Dec. 1890.

Katia (Gittel) POBERJESKY (POBERESKY / later POBER)/ 1869-1940 / nurse /
Elizavetgrad (Yelisbetgrad, now Kirovoghrad), Kherson gub. / 1869-1891 /
allegedly trained as a physician, poss. at Univ. of Kharkov, but no proof of
this yet discovered.

Bentsion TSIBELEVSKY (CIBULEVSKY / SIEBELEWSKY / later SIEBEL)/ 1871-1922/
tailor/ Elizavetgrad (Yelisbetgrad, now Kirovoghrad), Kherson gub. (poss.
Jaroswet, Kherson at some point)/ 1871-1905/ Apprenticeship unknown.

Yasha (Jasha / Jacob) POBERJESKY (POBERESKY / later POBER)/ 1888-1970 /
watchmaker / Elizavetgrad (Yelisbetgrad, now Kirovoghrad), Kherson gub. /
1888-1904 / training unknown. (Once in America he continued as a watchmaker
/ jeweler, but he was mostly a tailor. One record lists him as a
"dentist!")

Ray Cannata
NJ, USA

Searching names:
DASHEVSKY / DASHEWSKY of Elizavetgrad (Kirovograd), Kherson, Ukraine
FULNEROW / FELZEROW of Elizavetgrad (Kirovograd), Kherson, Ukraine
POBER / POBERESKY of Elizavetgrad (Kirovograd), Kherson, Ukraine
RUBEL of Elizavetgrad (Kirovograd), Kherson, Ukraine
SIEBEL / TSIBULEVSKY / SIEBELEWSKY / CIBULEVSKY of Elizavetgrad
(Kirovograd), Kherson, Ukraine
TROTSKY of Elizavetgrad (Kirovograd), Kherson, Ukraine
BRAVER of Orlya / Orla, Grodno or Lida, Belarus
LIFSITZ / LIPSHITZ of Orlya / Orla, Grodno or Lida, Belarus
KIRSCHNER / KIRSHNER / KIRZNER of Orlya / Orla, Grodno or Lida, Belarus


New Holocaust databases! #romania

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

Dear fellow ROM-SIGgers,

You will note among the many new Holocaust databases that have just been
uploaded to the JewishGen Holocaust database there are number that
relate to Romania, and the ROM-SIG. They will shortly also be linked to
the All-Romania Database of JewishGen, as soom as the staff can get to that!

Rosanne Leeson
Co-Coordinator
ROM-SIG


Romania SIG #Romania New Holocaust databases! #romania

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

Dear fellow ROM-SIGgers,

You will note among the many new Holocaust databases that have just been
uploaded to the JewishGen Holocaust database there are number that
relate to Romania, and the ROM-SIG. They will shortly also be linked to
the All-Romania Database of JewishGen, as soom as the staff can get to that!

Rosanne Leeson
Co-Coordinator
ROM-SIG


Re: holocaust era insurance claim question #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Hello Sara,

Yes, you should definitively appeal. If you have strong documental evidence about
your claim appeal to ICHEIC. The instructions and forms must have been sent
attached to you together with Generali's refusal.

One *very important* point: not only you are entitled to appeal but you are also
entitled to receive copies of *all documental proofs* of what Generali claims
happened. If they found a policy, they MUST send you a copy. This obligation
derives >from Generali's agreement with ICHEIC.

Good luck
Tom Venetianer
acting group coordinator
Holocaust Era Restitutions Discussion Group
Home Page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/h-justice

At 01:00 -0500 03.10.2005, JewishGen Discussion Group digest wrote:
Subject: holocaust era insurance claim question
From: Sara Wenger < sara_wenger@yahoo.com >
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 01:34:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 7

I received a letter form Generali insurance company
stating that they located a life insurance policy
issued to my grandfather in 1928. The letter goes on
to say that because this policy does not appear in
their accounting records of 1936 or of subsequent
years, it must have left their portfolio (before the
beginning of the Holocaust Era as defined by the
International Commission). The policy therefore does
not qualify for any payment. The front page that they
sent me of the supposed policy seems to be of someone
else's policy.

Does anyone out there have any experience with this?
Is it worthwhile to appeal as they indicated I am
entitled to do? If so, on what grounds would I appeal
as I have no information.
--
Tom Venetianer < mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br >
Sao Paulo - Brazil


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: holocaust era insurance claim question #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Hello Sara,

Yes, you should definitively appeal. If you have strong documental evidence about
your claim appeal to ICHEIC. The instructions and forms must have been sent
attached to you together with Generali's refusal.

One *very important* point: not only you are entitled to appeal but you are also
entitled to receive copies of *all documental proofs* of what Generali claims
happened. If they found a policy, they MUST send you a copy. This obligation
derives >from Generali's agreement with ICHEIC.

Good luck
Tom Venetianer
acting group coordinator
Holocaust Era Restitutions Discussion Group
Home Page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/h-justice

At 01:00 -0500 03.10.2005, JewishGen Discussion Group digest wrote:
Subject: holocaust era insurance claim question
From: Sara Wenger < sara_wenger@yahoo.com >
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 01:34:51 -0700 (PDT)
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I received a letter form Generali insurance company
stating that they located a life insurance policy
issued to my grandfather in 1928. The letter goes on
to say that because this policy does not appear in
their accounting records of 1936 or of subsequent
years, it must have left their portfolio (before the
beginning of the Holocaust Era as defined by the
International Commission). The policy therefore does
not qualify for any payment. The front page that they
sent me of the supposed policy seems to be of someone
else's policy.

Does anyone out there have any experience with this?
Is it worthwhile to appeal as they indicated I am
entitled to do? If so, on what grounds would I appeal
as I have no information.
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Tom Venetianer < mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br >
Sao Paulo - Brazil