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Seeking VM6914/5:Unknown ENGELSON or Ozer MILLER-Kefar Saba, Israel in 1964 #general

Joan Engel
 

Attention Israel-based Genners: I am looking for Ozer MILLER or his
descendants. Ozer and his wife lived in Kefar Saba, Israel in 1964 or
1969. He was married to a woman whose maiden name was ENGELSON. I
believe she was a telephone operator in 1964 or 1969. Mrs. Miller
(nee Engelson) is related to my paternal ggm, Neche ENGELSON, who
lived in Vilna.

I have placed a photo of the MILLER's (a very good looking couple) on
Viewmate along with the Yiddish note (and translation) on the back of
the photo.

Please go http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html and select
the to view option to see VM 6914 and VM 6915.

Please reply directly to me at my email address below. Thank you.

Joan Engel, New York City
joan.engel@...

RESEARCHING:
Vilna & Kovno: BENGIS, ENGELSON, MORO, STRELSKI/STRELETSKAJA,
WELLER, ZEMSER Grodno , Kamenets-Litovsk, Kobryn, Pruzhany &
Wisoko-Litovsk:BLINDERMAN, DUBINER/RUBIN, FRIEDMAN, KATZ,
POMERANTZ/POMERANZ,SAFER/SEIFER, SILBERGLEIT, SPELKE,
YANOWITZ/YANOVICH


queries #poland

Deborah Wiener
 

sorry- made an error-should read Austrian army not German army

Deborah Wiener

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Deborah is referring to the message she
posted yesterday.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking VM6914/5:Unknown ENGELSON or Ozer MILLER-Kefar Saba, Israel in 1964 #general

Joan Engel
 

Attention Israel-based Genners: I am looking for Ozer MILLER or his
descendants. Ozer and his wife lived in Kefar Saba, Israel in 1964 or
1969. He was married to a woman whose maiden name was ENGELSON. I
believe she was a telephone operator in 1964 or 1969. Mrs. Miller
(nee Engelson) is related to my paternal ggm, Neche ENGELSON, who
lived in Vilna.

I have placed a photo of the MILLER's (a very good looking couple) on
Viewmate along with the Yiddish note (and translation) on the back of
the photo.

Please go http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html and select
the to view option to see VM 6914 and VM 6915.

Please reply directly to me at my email address below. Thank you.

Joan Engel, New York City
joan.engel@...

RESEARCHING:
Vilna & Kovno: BENGIS, ENGELSON, MORO, STRELSKI/STRELETSKAJA,
WELLER, ZEMSER Grodno , Kamenets-Litovsk, Kobryn, Pruzhany &
Wisoko-Litovsk:BLINDERMAN, DUBINER/RUBIN, FRIEDMAN, KATZ,
POMERANTZ/POMERANZ,SAFER/SEIFER, SILBERGLEIT, SPELKE,
YANOWITZ/YANOVICH


JRI Poland #Poland queries #poland

Deborah Wiener
 

sorry- made an error-should read Austrian army not German army

Deborah Wiener

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Deborah is referring to the message she
posted yesterday.


searching for SZMALC/SZMALTZ from Przasnysz #poland

marty <meyers01@...>
 

I have convincing, but not completely conclusive, evidence of a family
connection to SZMALC >from Przasnysz.

Azryel Zelman SZMALC, son of Szymka and Leia, was married to a Sura Toba
UNKNOWN, daughter of
Jciek Nosenowicz UNKNOWN.

Their married children include:
Laja SZMALC, married to Abrahm Jciek BIERNACKI.
Their son Leyzor married Halka PERELEMUTER.
Leyzor and Halka's daughter Blima married Szmul Zala BIENENFELD
and emigrated to the US.
Daughter Sura Frejda married Chuna Mosiek RYBAK
Son Szaja married Szajna Fajga RUDA
Daughter Toba married Szymek DYNER
Son Jankief
Son Dawid
Basia SZMALC married to Herszek NOWOWEZYCKI
Rywka SZMALC married to Jciek ROTSZTEJN
Jciek Dawid SZMALC married to Szyma Bejla UNKNOWN, also to Sura CHOLSZ,
also to Dwora ROZEN
Son Abram
Daughter Gitta Hinda
Judka SZMALC married to Laja ROMANER
Daughter Rajzla married to Josek Dawid ROZENBERG

If any of these names are familiar, please contact me privately at
<meyers01@...>

Marty Meyers


JRI Poland #Poland searching for SZMALC/SZMALTZ from Przasnysz #poland

marty <meyers01@...>
 

I have convincing, but not completely conclusive, evidence of a family
connection to SZMALC >from Przasnysz.

Azryel Zelman SZMALC, son of Szymka and Leia, was married to a Sura Toba
UNKNOWN, daughter of
Jciek Nosenowicz UNKNOWN.

Their married children include:
Laja SZMALC, married to Abrahm Jciek BIERNACKI.
Their son Leyzor married Halka PERELEMUTER.
Leyzor and Halka's daughter Blima married Szmul Zala BIENENFELD
and emigrated to the US.
Daughter Sura Frejda married Chuna Mosiek RYBAK
Son Szaja married Szajna Fajga RUDA
Daughter Toba married Szymek DYNER
Son Jankief
Son Dawid
Basia SZMALC married to Herszek NOWOWEZYCKI
Rywka SZMALC married to Jciek ROTSZTEJN
Jciek Dawid SZMALC married to Szyma Bejla UNKNOWN, also to Sura CHOLSZ,
also to Dwora ROZEN
Son Abram
Daughter Gitta Hinda
Judka SZMALC married to Laja ROMANER
Daughter Rajzla married to Josek Dawid ROZENBERG

If any of these names are familiar, please contact me privately at
<meyers01@...>

Marty Meyers


Re: Black Bread Disease ? What is this? #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Janice Sellers" wrote

My Grandfathe >from Russia / Polandr is alleged to have died from
"Black Bread Disease". It is apparently a Europeon term. Anyone have
any idea as to what this is?
Possibly ergot?
Looks like.
Try Black Death (Back Plague)

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


Translation of 3 additional chapters from the Radzyn Podlaski Yizkor Book #poland

Yaakov Goldwasser <ygoldwas@...>
 

We are pleased to announce the translation to English of three additional
chapters >from the Radzyn Podlaski Yizkor Book:

1. The unbroken chain: by Mordechai Tannenbaum.
The history and importance of the &#8216;Blue Thread&#8217; for the Radzyner Chassidim,
the attempts to produce it again after the end of World War II and how this
was finally accomplished in Israel.

2. Teachers, whips and youth: by Zanvil Zaltzstein. The author describes
early childhood education in a Cheder in Radzyn.

3. >from those days: by M. Ben Shmuel. A description of life in the Chassidic
community in the time of Reb Mordecai Yosef the Radzyner Rabbi, relationship
with Chassidim who came >from other towns to be near the Rabbi and the
changes that eventually came about .

We thank Joyce Field, Lance Ackerfeld and all the Yizkor Book Project
personnel for uploading the chapters onto the Radzyn Yizkor Book website:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/radzyn/radzyn.html.

Nachman and Temmy Goldwasser
Gesher Haziv
Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Black Bread Disease ? What is this? #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Janice Sellers" wrote

My Grandfathe >from Russia / Polandr is alleged to have died from
"Black Bread Disease". It is apparently a Europeon term. Anyone have
any idea as to what this is?
Possibly ergot?
Looks like.
Try Black Death (Back Plague)

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


JRI Poland #Poland Translation of 3 additional chapters from the Radzyn Podlaski Yizkor Book #poland

Yaakov Goldwasser <ygoldwas@...>
 

We are pleased to announce the translation to English of three additional
chapters >from the Radzyn Podlaski Yizkor Book:

1. The unbroken chain: by Mordechai Tannenbaum.
The history and importance of the &#8216;Blue Thread&#8217; for the Radzyner Chassidim,
the attempts to produce it again after the end of World War II and how this
was finally accomplished in Israel.

2. Teachers, whips and youth: by Zanvil Zaltzstein. The author describes
early childhood education in a Cheder in Radzyn.

3. >from those days: by M. Ben Shmuel. A description of life in the Chassidic
community in the time of Reb Mordecai Yosef the Radzyner Rabbi, relationship
with Chassidim who came >from other towns to be near the Rabbi and the
changes that eventually came about .

We thank Joyce Field, Lance Ackerfeld and all the Yizkor Book Project
personnel for uploading the chapters onto the Radzyn Yizkor Book website:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/radzyn/radzyn.html.

Nachman and Temmy Goldwasser
Gesher Haziv
Israel


KANTOROVITZ and/or SCHATZ descendants of the Gaon of Vilna #general

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

I recently posted a message regarding a supposed link to the family of Reb'
Chaim of Volozhin. I mentioned there that we have a rather superficial and
questionable family tradition of a family link to the Gaon of Vilna which I
would like to check.

I should say that I've perused Chaim Friedman's "Eliayahu's Branches" and
have corresponded with him.

In the same very skimpy family chart which I mentioned previously there is
scribbled a link to the Gaon through my KANTOR(OVITZ) lineage. And from
another side but on the same chart appears the name SCHATZ.

Interestingly, both names appear as descendants of the Gaon but both names
are pretty common since again by strange coincidence they mean Cantor or
Shaliach Tzibur. As to the KANTOR side we are not sure if it is KANTOR or
KANTOROVITZ (as appear in Friedman's book). Two sibbling of previous
generations have documents each written differently.

As to SCHATZ we know that my ggggrandfather YOSEPH was a Chazan (cantor) in
Pinsk but we are not sure if this was his family name also or just his
profession and that we never had his real family name-if he had one
(beginning 19th cent. in Pinsk).
His daughter (my gggrandmother was Sarah Hinde).

Our KANTOR(OVITZ) ancestors are >from Slonim. My ggggrandfather was SHLOMO
ben ELIEZER (possibly a Rosh Yeshiva in Karlin)(and RACHEL) ben YAACOV MOSHE
ben AVRAHAM.
I've explored this line before in this group and received replies that
there were two lineages in Slonim with the same names of fathers and sons so
that there could be a mistake on our family chart presuming that we were
from the Gaon.
Shana Tova, Ktiva ve'chatima tova to all. May we all be blessed with a
Happy and Healthy New Year.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel


Re: ukraine digest: October 02, 2005 #ukraine

Irina Kunia <iritrashba@...>
 

Dear geners and Steve Orlen,
I am looking for people who are searching in the area of Boguslav
(Kiev Gubernya). My Rashba family is >from this town and also >from Kanev . I
would like to find out what revisions lists , census and other documents
were survived for 19 -th century and end of 18-th century. I can help with
translations >from Russian in a exchange for any info related to this area
(or pay for it).
Thanks,
Irit (Irene) Rashba
iritrashba@...
New Milford, NJ, USA

~~~~~~~~
Subject: Ukraine SIG: Database Project 2
From: Steve Orlen <sorlen@...>
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 08:48:19 -0700
X-Message-Number: 1

My great-grandfather Benjamin BELKIND haLevi, a tailor, was born 1860 in
Boguslav in Kiev Gubernya, as was his wife Rifka WOLINSKY, & his children:

Roza born 1886
Menachem-Mendl born 1888, a studio photographer
Moische (Misha) born 1892, a studio photographer;
Chaim born circa 1893 a studio photographer
Ephraim born circa 1896 died circa 1902 Kishinev

The family moved to Odessa (Peresyp) circa 1892.

My great-great grandfather, Motis-Mendl WOLINSKY, a wheelwright, was born
circa 1780's in Boguslav in Kiev Gubernya, as were his children:

Gusel who imm to London
Rachel-Leah
Yoynah, a soldier for many years
Ephraim, born circa 1830, a wheelwright
Israel (Srulke) b 1845 imm to London. Owned an art gallery.

Ephraim WOLINSKY (same as above) his wife Rachel moved to Odessa circa 1895
with their children:

Rifke born circa 1863 died in Kishinev circa 1902
Lea born circa 1863 imm to Brooklyn Married Mr. Teplitsky
Sarah born circa 1866 imm to Alexandria, Jaffa, Brooklyn
Moishe born circa 1870 imm to England then to USA
Ite born circa 1877 imm to Melbourne
Leib imm to Alexandria then Palestine
Yankel an engineer on water projects imm to Alexandria then Palestine

Best, Steve Orlen
Tucson, AZ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen KANTOROVITZ and/or SCHATZ descendants of the Gaon of Vilna #general

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

I recently posted a message regarding a supposed link to the family of Reb'
Chaim of Volozhin. I mentioned there that we have a rather superficial and
questionable family tradition of a family link to the Gaon of Vilna which I
would like to check.

I should say that I've perused Chaim Friedman's "Eliayahu's Branches" and
have corresponded with him.

In the same very skimpy family chart which I mentioned previously there is
scribbled a link to the Gaon through my KANTOR(OVITZ) lineage. And from
another side but on the same chart appears the name SCHATZ.

Interestingly, both names appear as descendants of the Gaon but both names
are pretty common since again by strange coincidence they mean Cantor or
Shaliach Tzibur. As to the KANTOR side we are not sure if it is KANTOR or
KANTOROVITZ (as appear in Friedman's book). Two sibbling of previous
generations have documents each written differently.

As to SCHATZ we know that my ggggrandfather YOSEPH was a Chazan (cantor) in
Pinsk but we are not sure if this was his family name also or just his
profession and that we never had his real family name-if he had one
(beginning 19th cent. in Pinsk).
His daughter (my gggrandmother was Sarah Hinde).

Our KANTOR(OVITZ) ancestors are >from Slonim. My ggggrandfather was SHLOMO
ben ELIEZER (possibly a Rosh Yeshiva in Karlin)(and RACHEL) ben YAACOV MOSHE
ben AVRAHAM.
I've explored this line before in this group and received replies that
there were two lineages in Slonim with the same names of fathers and sons so
that there could be a mistake on our family chart presuming that we were
from the Gaon.
Shana Tova, Ktiva ve'chatima tova to all. May we all be blessed with a
Happy and Healthy New Year.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE: ukraine digest: October 02, 2005 #ukraine

Irina Kunia <iritrashba@...>
 

Dear geners and Steve Orlen,
I am looking for people who are searching in the area of Boguslav
(Kiev Gubernya). My Rashba family is >from this town and also >from Kanev . I
would like to find out what revisions lists , census and other documents
were survived for 19 -th century and end of 18-th century. I can help with
translations >from Russian in a exchange for any info related to this area
(or pay for it).
Thanks,
Irit (Irene) Rashba
iritrashba@...
New Milford, NJ, USA

~~~~~~~~
Subject: Ukraine SIG: Database Project 2
From: Steve Orlen <sorlen@...>
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 08:48:19 -0700
X-Message-Number: 1

My great-grandfather Benjamin BELKIND haLevi, a tailor, was born 1860 in
Boguslav in Kiev Gubernya, as was his wife Rifka WOLINSKY, & his children:

Roza born 1886
Menachem-Mendl born 1888, a studio photographer
Moische (Misha) born 1892, a studio photographer;
Chaim born circa 1893 a studio photographer
Ephraim born circa 1896 died circa 1902 Kishinev

The family moved to Odessa (Peresyp) circa 1892.

My great-great grandfather, Motis-Mendl WOLINSKY, a wheelwright, was born
circa 1780's in Boguslav in Kiev Gubernya, as were his children:

Gusel who imm to London
Rachel-Leah
Yoynah, a soldier for many years
Ephraim, born circa 1830, a wheelwright
Israel (Srulke) b 1845 imm to London. Owned an art gallery.

Ephraim WOLINSKY (same as above) his wife Rachel moved to Odessa circa 1895
with their children:

Rifke born circa 1863 died in Kishinev circa 1902
Lea born circa 1863 imm to Brooklyn Married Mr. Teplitsky
Sarah born circa 1866 imm to Alexandria, Jaffa, Brooklyn
Moishe born circa 1870 imm to England then to USA
Ite born circa 1877 imm to Melbourne
Leib imm to Alexandria then Palestine
Yankel an engineer on water projects imm to Alexandria then Palestine

Best, Steve Orlen
Tucson, AZ


Disna Uyezd Research Group #lithuania

Batya Olsen <batyao@...>
 

Shana Tova,

The Disna Uyezd Research Group (DURG) of the LitvakSIG is happy to
announce the acquisition of the 1875 lists of male residents in the
Disna Uyezd. This includes the shtetlach of Bildziugi, Disna, Druya,
Germanovici, Glubokoye, Golubicy, Leonpol, Luzhek, Plisa, Postovy, and
Sharkovshina. The first of the lists to be translated and send to DURG
members is for Glubokoye.

For more information about these lists and/or DURG membership contact
Batya Olsen, DURG Coordinator.

--
Batya Matzkin Olsen, Concord, Massachusetts USA batyao@...
Researching: EISENSHMID/AJZENSHMIDT [any spelling] (Tsikhovolya, BY),
KAYOTSKY (Vidzy, BY),
KELMAN, KLONER (Postavy/Smorgon, BY), MANFELD (Smorgon), MANFIELD
(Sterling, Ill., US),
RUNKIN, MATZKIN (Vidzy & anywhere), ROSENBLUM (Postavy), SCHARER


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Disna Uyezd Research Group #lithuania

Batya Olsen <batyao@...>
 

Shana Tova,

The Disna Uyezd Research Group (DURG) of the LitvakSIG is happy to
announce the acquisition of the 1875 lists of male residents in the
Disna Uyezd. This includes the shtetlach of Bildziugi, Disna, Druya,
Germanovici, Glubokoye, Golubicy, Leonpol, Luzhek, Plisa, Postovy, and
Sharkovshina. The first of the lists to be translated and send to DURG
members is for Glubokoye.

For more information about these lists and/or DURG membership contact
Batya Olsen, DURG Coordinator.

--
Batya Matzkin Olsen, Concord, Massachusetts USA batyao@...
Researching: EISENSHMID/AJZENSHMIDT [any spelling] (Tsikhovolya, BY),
KAYOTSKY (Vidzy, BY),
KELMAN, KLONER (Postavy/Smorgon, BY), MANFELD (Smorgon), MANFIELD
(Sterling, Ill., US),
RUNKIN, MATZKIN (Vidzy & anywhere), ROSENBLUM (Postavy), SCHARER


Vilna #lithuania

sbloom@...
 

I have relatives >from Druya, Belarus. This was once part of Lithuania,
Vilna gubernya. It also borders with Latvia, and I dont think it was ever
part of latvia, but some of my relatives called themselves Latvians. I
would assume it was because either they originated >from over the border,
or they did so much travel and commerce within Latvia, that they figured
they were Latvians. I don't know enough about thehistory and ethnicity
of that region (north western Belarus) to know for sure.

Steve Bloom
Farmville, VA
email: sbloom@...


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Vilna #lithuania

sbloom@...
 

I have relatives >from Druya, Belarus. This was once part of Lithuania,
Vilna gubernya. It also borders with Latvia, and I dont think it was ever
part of latvia, but some of my relatives called themselves Latvians. I
would assume it was because either they originated >from over the border,
or they did so much travel and commerce within Latvia, that they figured
they were Latvians. I don't know enough about thehistory and ethnicity
of that region (north western Belarus) to know for sure.

Steve Bloom
Farmville, VA
email: sbloom@...


vilna #lithuania

LEVRAPHAEL@...
 

<<One of the problems we have today when people say they are >from New
York, we do not know if they are referring to New York City, or just
the county of New York which is Manhattan, or the state of New York
which is a much larger jurisdiction. >>

Indeed, my late mother used to tell about people who'd say they were
from Vilna, but on further questioning revealed that they were >from a
shtetl near Vilna, and sometimes not very near. Being >from Vilna had
more ichus than being >from some lochovitch lochovitchki. :-)

--
Lev Raphael, Host of
BookTalk on WLNZ
89.7 FM Lansing Public
Radio, on the Web at
www.wlnz.org. Join Lev
every Wednesday at 11
AM and meet guests like
Stacy Schiff, Joseph Ellis
and Stephen Greenblatt.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania vilna #lithuania

LEVRAPHAEL@...
 

<<One of the problems we have today when people say they are >from New
York, we do not know if they are referring to New York City, or just
the county of New York which is Manhattan, or the state of New York
which is a much larger jurisdiction. >>

Indeed, my late mother used to tell about people who'd say they were
from Vilna, but on further questioning revealed that they were >from a
shtetl near Vilna, and sometimes not very near. Being >from Vilna had
more ichus than being >from some lochovitch lochovitchki. :-)

--
Lev Raphael, Host of
BookTalk on WLNZ
89.7 FM Lansing Public
Radio, on the Web at
www.wlnz.org. Join Lev
every Wednesday at 11
AM and meet guests like
Stacy Schiff, Joseph Ellis
and Stephen Greenblatt.