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EIDB- Deciphering a Place- Zabno-Steven Morse #poland

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Thanks to all those who respnded privately.Ms. Dena
Abrams managed to trace the entry of his wife Alte
Perlberg >from 1898. It is clearly written ZABNO.
What is very interesting that it could not been
located through Steve Morse's blue form but through
the white form.
We learn every day something new!!!!
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


JRI Poland #Poland EIDB- Deciphering a Place- Zabno-Steven Morse #poland

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Thanks to all those who respnded privately.Ms. Dena
Abrams managed to trace the entry of his wife Alte
Perlberg >from 1898. It is clearly written ZABNO.
What is very interesting that it could not been
located through Steve Morse's blue form but through
the white form.
We learn every day something new!!!!
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


SPRITZ of Odessa #general

Peg and Al Rosenfield <alanpeg@...>
 

Please excuse this e-mail if I have written previously. I lost a number of
records in a computer crash.

We are looking for ancestors and descendants of my great aunt, Nachema
ROSENFIELD. She married Leo/Leizer SPRITZ in Odessa in 1888. Nechema was the
daughter of Aaron BECKER, who changed his name to ROSENFIELD at some point.
Leo and Nachema had two sons, Wolf (born 05/31/1981) and Shmuel (born
02/12/1904).

The rest is unsubstantiated family history. Relatives have said that there
was a son Victor (probably Wolf), who was recruited by the government during
World War II as a dentist in Moscow. He had at least one son. Victor sent
for his mother and sisters >from Odessa, but they returned to rcover some
property. The mother and sisters are believed to have been lost in the
Holocaust. We have no record of the sisters' births. My father said they
were named Catherine, Esther, and Miriam. He also said that one of them
married a Dr. SILVERMAN.

Please let me know if you have furhter information on this family. We will
be happy to supply information on the ROSENFIELD family if there is a
match.

Al Rosenfield
Columbus Ohio


FEINSTEIN/FINESTONE: Zhitomir>Chelsea MA; 1840-1925 #general

Peg and Al Rosenfield <alanpeg@...>
 

We are searching for ancestors of Israel FEINSTEIN/FINESTONE, believed to be
originally >from Zhitomir and married to Bella/Blume ALEXANDER. They arrived
in Chelsea MA around 1901. Israel's father was named Samuel.

Descendents of Israel and Bella with spouses were (two of the sons changed
their last names) :

Abraham GORDON - Dvera ROSENFIELD
Nathan FINESTONE - Bessie Finkel
Samuel STARR - Bessie GINSBERG
Sophie FINESTONE - John ALBERT
Clara FINESTONE - Alexander ROSENFIELD (my grandparents)
Sonya FINESTONE - Jacob FINGOLD
Harry FINESTONE - Florence SHULTZ
Elizabeth (Leah) - neve rmarried
Samuel FINESTONE - Anna SAUNDERS

We will be happy to share further informaiton if there is a match.

Al Rosenfield
Columbus Ohio


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SPRITZ of Odessa #general

Peg and Al Rosenfield <alanpeg@...>
 

Please excuse this e-mail if I have written previously. I lost a number of
records in a computer crash.

We are looking for ancestors and descendants of my great aunt, Nachema
ROSENFIELD. She married Leo/Leizer SPRITZ in Odessa in 1888. Nechema was the
daughter of Aaron BECKER, who changed his name to ROSENFIELD at some point.
Leo and Nachema had two sons, Wolf (born 05/31/1981) and Shmuel (born
02/12/1904).

The rest is unsubstantiated family history. Relatives have said that there
was a son Victor (probably Wolf), who was recruited by the government during
World War II as a dentist in Moscow. He had at least one son. Victor sent
for his mother and sisters >from Odessa, but they returned to rcover some
property. The mother and sisters are believed to have been lost in the
Holocaust. We have no record of the sisters' births. My father said they
were named Catherine, Esther, and Miriam. He also said that one of them
married a Dr. SILVERMAN.

Please let me know if you have furhter information on this family. We will
be happy to supply information on the ROSENFIELD family if there is a
match.

Al Rosenfield
Columbus Ohio


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen FEINSTEIN/FINESTONE: Zhitomir>Chelsea MA; 1840-1925 #general

Peg and Al Rosenfield <alanpeg@...>
 

We are searching for ancestors of Israel FEINSTEIN/FINESTONE, believed to be
originally >from Zhitomir and married to Bella/Blume ALEXANDER. They arrived
in Chelsea MA around 1901. Israel's father was named Samuel.

Descendents of Israel and Bella with spouses were (two of the sons changed
their last names) :

Abraham GORDON - Dvera ROSENFIELD
Nathan FINESTONE - Bessie Finkel
Samuel STARR - Bessie GINSBERG
Sophie FINESTONE - John ALBERT
Clara FINESTONE - Alexander ROSENFIELD (my grandparents)
Sonya FINESTONE - Jacob FINGOLD
Harry FINESTONE - Florence SHULTZ
Elizabeth (Leah) - neve rmarried
Samuel FINESTONE - Anna SAUNDERS

We will be happy to share further informaiton if there is a match.

Al Rosenfield
Columbus Ohio


Re: Younger siblings marrying in-laws' siblings #general

HPOLLINS@...
 

It would seem this should have been common, but I have never seen it.
I have only seen it once, in present San Francisco, where two sisters
are married to two brothers.
Was this common, not aloud, or what?
---

In the mid-19th century in London there were two families (both on my late
wife's family tree). One of them had 14 children and the other had ten. Four
of each family married four of the other family. Nothing to do with villages..

Harold Pollins
Oxford, England


Website about the Holocaust in Italy #general

Susanna Vendel <svendel@...>
 

I just wanted to mention a very well-documented website about the
Holocaust in Italy.
http://www.binario21.org/b21oggi.htm
On the right side of this page there is a PDF file of a book: "Gli
Ebrei in provincia di Milano 1943/1945" written by Liliana Picciotto
Fargion. The book has a name list at the end. Even if you do not know
Italian you can look up the names you are interested in and than ask
somebody to translate the few lines about the name.
There is also a list of name >from different sources: LP Fargion's
book, Research >from the Jewish Documentation Center of Milan and
Research >from the Historical Archive of CDEC.
http://www.binario21.org/nomi.htm

Susanna Vendel, Stockholm


Re: Younger siblings marrying in-laws' siblings #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

This was a very common practice and still is throughout the Jewish world.

An instance is that my Lithuanian grandmother's sisters, Jenny and Lena
Zadekowitz, and a cousin, Bertha Singer, married three Hillman brothers,
Morris, Max and Bernard, who were >from Latvia.

This occurred not only in Europe, but when families came to America. In my
Lithuanian grandfather's family, the same occurred with surprising
frequency, especially in America, where the families intermarried with
three or four other famillies in the local vicinity in New Jersey and New
York who had come >from the same shtetl in Europe.

It wasn't limited there, as one of my maternal aunties in England and
another much older relative played the "shadchan" for a number of relatives
and friends, some siblings, who were >from the same Ukrainian shtetls of
Drohobych and Borislav.

Further, going back to "der heim", if one looks are marriage records
carefully, this practice of sibling marriages can be found, as it is quite
common to see a number of relatives, particularly siblings, married on the
same day or in the same week.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


Software tool for inserting subtitles on a digital video clip #general

Meir G. Gover <mggover@...>
 

From: Meir G. Gover mggover@bezeqint.net

Did some one confronted the problem
of inserting subtitles (say, English subtitles to a Polish or Yiddish
language interview) on a digital video clip?
Which software did you use?
Are there public domain software packages
(with instructions or without) for such purpose?

Meir Garbarz Gover
Savyon, Israel

Searching: GARBARZ and derivatives (world wide)

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


Bulgarian Jews #general

Regine Ransohoff <ransohw@...>
 

I have always heard that Angelo Roncalli (the future John 23rd) was
papal nuncio to Sofia during WW2 and managed to save thousands of Jews
in Bulgaria by manufacturing passports. he had the cooperation of the
Bulgarian government. Regine Ransohoff Cincinnati ohio


ROSENFIELD; Odessa>Chelsea MA; 1880-1970 #general

Peg and Al Rosenfield <alanpeg@...>
 

We looking for ancestors of Alexander RIOSENFIELD, who came >from Odessa to
Chelsea MA in 1891,. He was the son of Aaron ROSNEFIELD and Miriam
GITTELMAN. However, Aaron changed his name form BECKER at some point.
Aaron's father first name was Kehath or Kogos. We believe the family was
originally form Koretz, Ukraine.

Al;exander had no brothers. His sisters and spouses were: Dvera (Abe
GORDON), Bessie/Basia (Nachman/Nuchum DIMENTBARG), Nachama (Leo/Leizor
SPRITZ), Mary/Miriam (Nathan/Nachman EPSTEIN), and Rose (died young, never
married)l

We will be happy to share further informaiton if there is a match.

Al Rosenfield
Columbus Ohio


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Younger siblings marrying in-laws' siblings #general

HPOLLINS@...
 

It would seem this should have been common, but I have never seen it.
I have only seen it once, in present San Francisco, where two sisters
are married to two brothers.
Was this common, not aloud, or what?
---

In the mid-19th century in London there were two families (both on my late
wife's family tree). One of them had 14 children and the other had ten. Four
of each family married four of the other family. Nothing to do with villages..

Harold Pollins
Oxford, England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Website about the Holocaust in Italy #general

Susanna Vendel <svendel@...>
 

I just wanted to mention a very well-documented website about the
Holocaust in Italy.
http://www.binario21.org/b21oggi.htm
On the right side of this page there is a PDF file of a book: "Gli
Ebrei in provincia di Milano 1943/1945" written by Liliana Picciotto
Fargion. The book has a name list at the end. Even if you do not know
Italian you can look up the names you are interested in and than ask
somebody to translate the few lines about the name.
There is also a list of name >from different sources: LP Fargion's
book, Research >from the Jewish Documentation Center of Milan and
Research >from the Historical Archive of CDEC.
http://www.binario21.org/nomi.htm

Susanna Vendel, Stockholm


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Younger siblings marrying in-laws' siblings #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

This was a very common practice and still is throughout the Jewish world.

An instance is that my Lithuanian grandmother's sisters, Jenny and Lena
Zadekowitz, and a cousin, Bertha Singer, married three Hillman brothers,
Morris, Max and Bernard, who were >from Latvia.

This occurred not only in Europe, but when families came to America. In my
Lithuanian grandfather's family, the same occurred with surprising
frequency, especially in America, where the families intermarried with
three or four other famillies in the local vicinity in New Jersey and New
York who had come >from the same shtetl in Europe.

It wasn't limited there, as one of my maternal aunties in England and
another much older relative played the "shadchan" for a number of relatives
and friends, some siblings, who were >from the same Ukrainian shtetls of
Drohobych and Borislav.

Further, going back to "der heim", if one looks are marriage records
carefully, this practice of sibling marriages can be found, as it is quite
common to see a number of relatives, particularly siblings, married on the
same day or in the same week.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Software tool for inserting subtitles on a digital video clip #general

Meir G. Gover <mggover@...>
 

From: Meir G. Gover mggover@bezeqint.net

Did some one confronted the problem
of inserting subtitles (say, English subtitles to a Polish or Yiddish
language interview) on a digital video clip?
Which software did you use?
Are there public domain software packages
(with instructions or without) for such purpose?

Meir Garbarz Gover
Savyon, Israel

Searching: GARBARZ and derivatives (world wide)

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Bulgarian Jews #general

Regine Ransohoff <ransohw@...>
 

I have always heard that Angelo Roncalli (the future John 23rd) was
papal nuncio to Sofia during WW2 and managed to save thousands of Jews
in Bulgaria by manufacturing passports. he had the cooperation of the
Bulgarian government. Regine Ransohoff Cincinnati ohio


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ROSENFIELD; Odessa>Chelsea MA; 1880-1970 #general

Peg and Al Rosenfield <alanpeg@...>
 

We looking for ancestors of Alexander RIOSENFIELD, who came >from Odessa to
Chelsea MA in 1891,. He was the son of Aaron ROSNEFIELD and Miriam
GITTELMAN. However, Aaron changed his name form BECKER at some point.
Aaron's father first name was Kehath or Kogos. We believe the family was
originally form Koretz, Ukraine.

Al;exander had no brothers. His sisters and spouses were: Dvera (Abe
GORDON), Bessie/Basia (Nachman/Nuchum DIMENTBARG), Nachama (Leo/Leizor
SPRITZ), Mary/Miriam (Nathan/Nachman EPSTEIN), and Rose (died young, never
married)l

We will be happy to share further informaiton if there is a match.

Al Rosenfield
Columbus Ohio


Lodz databases explanation and another source #lodz #poland

Roni S. Liebowitz
 

I have received several inquiries about the information I posted regarding
Lodz (and other) databases. Hope this clarifies:

1. The databases are searchable databases, not static lists. You cannot
browse the entire town or whole list. You must do a search on a surname.

2. On the Holocaust database, one surname search will list that name
wherever it appears in any of the 100 separate data files, so you don't have
to go through each file separately. You cannot search one datafile
independently. These relatively smaller databases do not have their own
individual search engines as does the Lodz Ghetto Residents database at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Poland/LodzGhetto.html . You will need
to search these other databases by going to
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/

3. It is very important to READ THE INTRODUCTIONS and check out the
highlighted terms, which often refer you to lists of occupations or a
translation of terms and even the columns used in the databases. It is very
hard to understand the content of the database without reading the intro.
For information on each of the databases, scroll down and click on the links
on that same page. For example, Chelmno is one of the databases listed.
Click on that link to get to the explanation about the database at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/0114_Lodz-transports.html

4. Anyone can do a basic search but must have a JewishGen ID number. To get
this sign up at http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/ (no cost). When the request
appears to log onto a database, you will need that number. A basic search
allows you to input only in the first search box. Only contributors can do
an advanced search which allows you to search additional boxes at the same
time so that, for example, you can search on a surname and given name
together.

Another searchable database, not housed on JewishGen, containing about
20,000 Lodz names was compiled by Daniel Kazez. Check out
http://www.benkazez.com/dan/crarg/search.php

Please remember to list the ancestors you are researching on the JewishGen
Family Finder http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/ If you are listed, others
researching the same names, or who have information about the names you are
researching, will be able to contact you.

Good luck with your research.

Regards,
Roni Seibel Liebowitz
Scarsdale, New York
Researching:
SEIBEL and SZAEFER ---Klimontow, Nadbrzezie, Konary, Grebow, Krakow, Baronow
Sandomierski, Rozwadow, Tarnobrzeg, Zukow in Poland; Lviv in Ukraine
(Galicia) KLOSS and OSER ---Klimontow, Konary, Radom in Poland
PRZYBYLSKI (later BILSKY) and PIASKOWSKI ---Belchatow, Lodz in Poland
URBACH, RUKALSKI, ROZICKA, MANDELBAUM --- Wegrow, Czerwonka, Warsaw, Minsk
Mazowiecki, Radom in Poland

Original post:

From: "Roni S. Liebowitz" <roni19@optonline.net>

Recently Joyce Field announced several new databases
..................snip

* "Lodz Transports to the Chelmno Extermination Camp"
.......snip

* "Lodz Ghetto Residents Database"
A record of the 240,000 inhabitants of the Lodz Ghetto. .....snip

* Lodz Ghetto Hospital Illness Records"
Entries include over 5,600 persons with contagious diseases ...snip

* "Lodz Ghetto Hospital Deaths"
There are over 14,000 deaths recorded in hospitals in the Lodz Ghetto,
Nov > 1941 thru Jun 1944.

For other databases related to the Holocaust, see:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/

* "Jewish Records Indexing - Poland (JRI-Poland)" is a non-profit,
independent organization.
......snip............ http://www.jri-poland.org

Detailed explanations about each of these databases are available on
the
sites.
.........snip........ take the time to read the explanations. If you
can't wait, then read them after your
searches <G>.

You can access all the databases by searching through the All Poland
Database http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Poland/


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Lodz databases explanation and another source #lodz #poland

Roni S. Liebowitz
 

I have received several inquiries about the information I posted regarding
Lodz (and other) databases. Hope this clarifies:

1. The databases are searchable databases, not static lists. You cannot
browse the entire town or whole list. You must do a search on a surname.

2. On the Holocaust database, one surname search will list that name
wherever it appears in any of the 100 separate data files, so you don't have
to go through each file separately. You cannot search one datafile
independently. These relatively smaller databases do not have their own
individual search engines as does the Lodz Ghetto Residents database at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Poland/LodzGhetto.html . You will need
to search these other databases by going to
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/

3. It is very important to READ THE INTRODUCTIONS and check out the
highlighted terms, which often refer you to lists of occupations or a
translation of terms and even the columns used in the databases. It is very
hard to understand the content of the database without reading the intro.
For information on each of the databases, scroll down and click on the links
on that same page. For example, Chelmno is one of the databases listed.
Click on that link to get to the explanation about the database at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/0114_Lodz-transports.html

4. Anyone can do a basic search but must have a JewishGen ID number. To get
this sign up at http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/ (no cost). When the request
appears to log onto a database, you will need that number. A basic search
allows you to input only in the first search box. Only contributors can do
an advanced search which allows you to search additional boxes at the same
time so that, for example, you can search on a surname and given name
together.

Another searchable database, not housed on JewishGen, containing about
20,000 Lodz names was compiled by Daniel Kazez. Check out
http://www.benkazez.com/dan/crarg/search.php

Please remember to list the ancestors you are researching on the JewishGen
Family Finder http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/ If you are listed, others
researching the same names, or who have information about the names you are
researching, will be able to contact you.

Good luck with your research.

Regards,
Roni Seibel Liebowitz
Scarsdale, New York
Researching:
SEIBEL and SZAEFER ---Klimontow, Nadbrzezie, Konary, Grebow, Krakow, Baronow
Sandomierski, Rozwadow, Tarnobrzeg, Zukow in Poland; Lviv in Ukraine
(Galicia) KLOSS and OSER ---Klimontow, Konary, Radom in Poland
PRZYBYLSKI (later BILSKY) and PIASKOWSKI ---Belchatow, Lodz in Poland
URBACH, RUKALSKI, ROZICKA, MANDELBAUM --- Wegrow, Czerwonka, Warsaw, Minsk
Mazowiecki, Radom in Poland

Original post:

From: "Roni S. Liebowitz" <roni19@optonline.net>

Recently Joyce Field announced several new databases
..................snip

* "Lodz Transports to the Chelmno Extermination Camp"
.......snip

* "Lodz Ghetto Residents Database"
A record of the 240,000 inhabitants of the Lodz Ghetto. .....snip

* Lodz Ghetto Hospital Illness Records"
Entries include over 5,600 persons with contagious diseases ...snip

* "Lodz Ghetto Hospital Deaths"
There are over 14,000 deaths recorded in hospitals in the Lodz Ghetto,
Nov > 1941 thru Jun 1944.

For other databases related to the Holocaust, see:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/

* "Jewish Records Indexing - Poland (JRI-Poland)" is a non-profit,
independent organization.
......snip............ http://www.jri-poland.org

Detailed explanations about each of these databases are available on
the
sites.
.........snip........ take the time to read the explanations. If you
can't wait, then read them after your
searches <G>.

You can access all the databases by searching through the All Poland
Database http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Poland/