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Re: Bilki #ukraine

Moshe & Esther Davis <davis@...>
 

My mother's family was born in Bilke which was in Hungry in the late
1800's. It is now in Ukraine and the name is either Bilki or Bilky.
How do I get vital information on the people who were born, married,
and died in this town. I know it is in the Sub Carpathain Basin.
Dear Hank,

Have you ever heard of the "Auschwitz Album"? It is an album of
pictures taken by a Nazi photographer of the processing of a
transport which arrived in Auschwitz in the spring of 1944. The
album was discovered after the war by an Aushwitz survivor who
was a native of Bilke. She was shocked to see that the pictures
were of the arrival of the very same transport which had brought her
and her family to Auschwitz! The album includes pictures of her
own grandparents, of the last Rav of Bilke, and of other Bilke
residents.

See:

http://www1.yadvashem.org/exhibitions/album_auschwitz/home_auschwitz_album.html

Moshe Davis
Jerusalem

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Interesting article/book review - 19th Century Jewish Women's Literacy #ukraine

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/634885.html
Above is the link to an illuminating book review on the ironies of how formal
exclusion >from Hebrew studies led to more open intellectual worlds for many
Jewish women in old Eastern Europe:
"[The author] offers the surprising thesis that certain groups of Jewish women
in 19th-century Eastern Europe, precisely because of their exclusion from
traditional Jewish learning, had a 'window of opportunity' to access a very
different world through reading. "

This historically informative review is recommended as a brief way to fill in
some background on our ancestors' lives and non-traditional world views whih we
may sometimes forget about. It looks a heavy read, but I still may check my
library for a loan if they have it: "Reading Jewish Women: Marginalization and
Modernization in 19th-Century Eastern European Jewish Society," by Iris Parush,
translated by Saadya Sternberg, published by Brandeis University Press, 2004.

I assure the group and moderators I've no connection with this publication
other than having stumbled across the review.


Michelle Frager, NYC area
Ukraine: TREIGER ZEKTSER SIROTTA or similar SIBELBERG (sic) BRONSHTEIN


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Bilki #ukraine

Moshe & Esther Davis <davis@...>
 

My mother's family was born in Bilke which was in Hungry in the late
1800's. It is now in Ukraine and the name is either Bilki or Bilky.
How do I get vital information on the people who were born, married,
and died in this town. I know it is in the Sub Carpathain Basin.
Dear Hank,

Have you ever heard of the "Auschwitz Album"? It is an album of
pictures taken by a Nazi photographer of the processing of a
transport which arrived in Auschwitz in the spring of 1944. The
album was discovered after the war by an Aushwitz survivor who
was a native of Bilke. She was shocked to see that the pictures
were of the arrival of the very same transport which had brought her
and her family to Auschwitz! The album includes pictures of her
own grandparents, of the last Rav of Bilke, and of other Bilke
residents.

See:

http://www1.yadvashem.org/exhibitions/album_auschwitz/home_auschwitz_album.html

Moshe Davis
Jerusalem

MODERATOR'S NOTE: You might have to copy and paste the URL to get the whole
address on your browser.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Interesting article/book review - 19th Century Jewish Women's Literacy #ukraine

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/634885.html
Above is the link to an illuminating book review on the ironies of how formal
exclusion >from Hebrew studies led to more open intellectual worlds for many
Jewish women in old Eastern Europe:
"[The author] offers the surprising thesis that certain groups of Jewish women
in 19th-century Eastern Europe, precisely because of their exclusion from
traditional Jewish learning, had a 'window of opportunity' to access a very
different world through reading. "

This historically informative review is recommended as a brief way to fill in
some background on our ancestors' lives and non-traditional world views whih we
may sometimes forget about. It looks a heavy read, but I still may check my
library for a loan if they have it: "Reading Jewish Women: Marginalization and
Modernization in 19th-Century Eastern European Jewish Society," by Iris Parush,
translated by Saadya Sternberg, published by Brandeis University Press, 2004.

I assure the group and moderators I've no connection with this publication
other than having stumbled across the review.


Michelle Frager, NYC area
Ukraine: TREIGER ZEKTSER SIROTTA or similar SIBELBERG (sic) BRONSHTEIN


Dachau Concentration Camp Records #general

Jose Gutstein
 

Does anyone have a copy of the CD containing the Dachau Concentration Camp
Records listings?

The database is explained in:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/0050_DachauIndexing.html

Please contact me privately if you can help.

...
Jose Gutstein
E-Mail: Gutstein@bellsouth.net
Radzilow web page: http://www.radzilow.com
Szczuczyn web page: http://www.szczuczyn.com
Wizna web page: http://www.wizna.com
Radzilow Area Town Tour: http://www.radzilow.com/towns/towntour.htm


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Dachau Concentration Camp Records #general

Jose Gutstein
 

Does anyone have a copy of the CD containing the Dachau Concentration Camp
Records listings?

The database is explained in:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/0050_DachauIndexing.html

Please contact me privately if you can help.

...
Jose Gutstein
E-Mail: Gutstein@bellsouth.net
Radzilow web page: http://www.radzilow.com
Szczuczyn web page: http://www.szczuczyn.com
Wizna web page: http://www.wizna.com
Radzilow Area Town Tour: http://www.radzilow.com/towns/towntour.htm


Re: Documents needed to leave Russia or Poland to US #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

You don't say the year, but I will answer for the 19th century and the first
part of the 20th. You snuck out of Russia and didn't need any papers.
Because you snuck out of Russia (including Russian Poland), papers were
unnecessary there, and the US welcomed immigrants, so none were needed here.

What you did need is a ticket and enough money to support yourself until you
could get a job - maybe $10 - or a relative to support you. And a woman
needed a male relative to meet her at the ship - unless she was Mrs Andrew
Carnegie or similar - it was assumed that a woman could not 'honestly' earn
enough to support herself.

Sally Bruckheimer
Bridgewater, NJ

"What documents were required for the immigrant to leave Russia or
Poland for the US "


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Documents needed to leave Russia or Poland to US #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

You don't say the year, but I will answer for the 19th century and the first
part of the 20th. You snuck out of Russia and didn't need any papers.
Because you snuck out of Russia (including Russian Poland), papers were
unnecessary there, and the US welcomed immigrants, so none were needed here.

What you did need is a ticket and enough money to support yourself until you
could get a job - maybe $10 - or a relative to support you. And a woman
needed a male relative to meet her at the ship - unless she was Mrs Andrew
Carnegie or similar - it was assumed that a woman could not 'honestly' earn
enough to support herself.

Sally Bruckheimer
Bridgewater, NJ

"What documents were required for the immigrant to leave Russia or
Poland for the US "


Holocaust Search Engine #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

Subject: Lodz databases explanation and another source
From: "Roni S. Liebowitz" <roni19@optonline.net>
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:20:25 -0400

Another searchable database, not housed on JewishGen, containing about
20,000 Lodz names was compiled by Daniel Kazez. Check out
http://www.benkazez.com/dan/crarg/search.php
Roni,

Thank you for mentioning CRARG's new Holocaust search engine. It focuses on
persons who lived in Poland or were >from Poland. It includes nearly 100
different databases, including (just as examples) 20 thousand records for
persons >from Lodz, 15 thousand for persons >from Warsaw, 14 thousand for
persons >from Radomsko, and 2 thousand for persons >from Plawno (one of the
the small town where my family lived). It includes records for persons from
many hundreds of towns throughout Poland.

http://www.benkazez.com/dan/crarg/search.php
or
http://tinyurl.com/dhxjd

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, BRODA, SZEWCZYK,
LEWKOWICZ, SZPALTYN, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPICKI, LUKS, MOSZKOWICZ, STROZ,
SZWIMER, GUTMAN, PESACH, FEYNER/FEINER/FAYNER, BORZYKOWSKI, SZEWCZYK,
SZWARCBERG, HILLER, FEDERMAN, WAJSHAUS, WAJSBERG, GELBART, FINGERHUT,
PLOTEK, FAJWLEWICZ, SZKLARCZYK, WAJCENBLUT, KRZESOWICZ/KRESOWICZ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Holocaust Search Engine #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

Subject: Lodz databases explanation and another source
From: "Roni S. Liebowitz" <roni19@optonline.net>
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:20:25 -0400

Another searchable database, not housed on JewishGen, containing about
20,000 Lodz names was compiled by Daniel Kazez. Check out
http://www.benkazez.com/dan/crarg/search.php
Roni,

Thank you for mentioning CRARG's new Holocaust search engine. It focuses on
persons who lived in Poland or were >from Poland. It includes nearly 100
different databases, including (just as examples) 20 thousand records for
persons >from Lodz, 15 thousand for persons >from Warsaw, 14 thousand for
persons >from Radomsko, and 2 thousand for persons >from Plawno (one of the
the small town where my family lived). It includes records for persons from
many hundreds of towns throughout Poland.

http://www.benkazez.com/dan/crarg/search.php
or
http://tinyurl.com/dhxjd

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, BRODA, SZEWCZYK,
LEWKOWICZ, SZPALTYN, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPICKI, LUKS, MOSZKOWICZ, STROZ,
SZWIMER, GUTMAN, PESACH, FEYNER/FEINER/FAYNER, BORZYKOWSKI, SZEWCZYK,
SZWARCBERG, HILLER, FEDERMAN, WAJSHAUS, WAJSBERG, GELBART, FINGERHUT,
PLOTEK, FAJWLEWICZ, SZKLARCZYK, WAJCENBLUT, KRZESOWICZ/KRESOWICZ


correction to my message re Rabbi Moshe of Kletzk #general

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

I should have noted (may have been understood) that the Rabbi of
Novarodok-the son of Moshe- was David. I haven't found a familyname for him
though his son-in-law who published his book was called RABINOWITZ.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen correction to my message re Rabbi Moshe of Kletzk #general

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

I should have noted (may have been understood) that the Rabbi of
Novarodok-the son of Moshe- was David. I haven't found a familyname for him
though his son-in-law who published his book was called RABINOWITZ.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel


Jews of Albania #general

BTOpenworld <N.Landau@...>
 

There was brief mention about the Jews of Albania during the recent
discussion about the Jews of Bulgaria.

I have found this website http://www.jdc.org/p_ee_alb_pg.html which briefly
gives their history.

It says that not a single Jew was deported or killed during WWII - the
Germans apparently only occupied in 1944, although according to Yad Vashem
http://www1.yadvashem.org/odot_pdf/Microsoft%20Word%20-%205725.pdf there
were only 600 Jews there at the outbreak of the War, of whom 400 were
refugees.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jews of Albania #general

BTOpenworld <N.Landau@...>
 

There was brief mention about the Jews of Albania during the recent
discussion about the Jews of Bulgaria.

I have found this website http://www.jdc.org/p_ee_alb_pg.html which briefly
gives their history.

It says that not a single Jew was deported or killed during WWII - the
Germans apparently only occupied in 1944, although according to Yad Vashem
http://www1.yadvashem.org/odot_pdf/Microsoft%20Word%20-%205725.pdf there
were only 600 Jews there at the outbreak of the War, of whom 400 were
refugees.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Belarus)


travel documents #general

Martin Tulkoff <mtulkoff@...>
 

We have the Russian passport that was issued to my mother-in-law and her
mother when they left Russia in 1917. They traveled through Vladivostock on
to Japan and then to Canada. It has the seals and handwritten signatures of
the immigration officials who checked it.

We also have the passport issued to my father-in-law's mother when she left
Russia with her two youngest children and came to Ellis Island in 1907.

I have no idea if there is any record of passports issued at the country of
origin. Some experienced JewishGenner will probably be able to answer that.

Sylvia Tulkoff
Baltimore, Maryland

"What documents were required for the immigrant to leave Russia or
Poland for the US (my ancesters entered via Ellis Is. >from Russia /
Poland). I have heard that a Visa type of document was needed to
leave Russia. If so, where would these documents be archived in Europe
(if at all)?"


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen travel documents #general

Martin Tulkoff <mtulkoff@...>
 

We have the Russian passport that was issued to my mother-in-law and her
mother when they left Russia in 1917. They traveled through Vladivostock on
to Japan and then to Canada. It has the seals and handwritten signatures of
the immigration officials who checked it.

We also have the passport issued to my father-in-law's mother when she left
Russia with her two youngest children and came to Ellis Island in 1907.

I have no idea if there is any record of passports issued at the country of
origin. Some experienced JewishGenner will probably be able to answer that.

Sylvia Tulkoff
Baltimore, Maryland

"What documents were required for the immigrant to leave Russia or
Poland for the US (my ancesters entered via Ellis Is. >from Russia /
Poland). I have heard that a Visa type of document was needed to
leave Russia. If so, where would these documents be archived in Europe
(if at all)?"


Re: Interesting article/book review - 19th Century Jewish Women's Literacy #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 10/16/05 3:19:18 AM, lulu_brooks@yahoo.com writes:

<< http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/634885.html

Above is the link to an illuminating book review on the ironies of how formal

exclusion >from Hebrew studies led to more open intellectual worlds for many

Jewish women in old Eastern Europe: >>

If as I did, you had trouble finding the book review using the Haaretz URL
supplied by Lulu Brooks, and you want to know more about the book try instead :


http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:Q9SSH58i--QJ:www.upne.com/1-58465-366-3.html+%22Iris+Parush%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

I have read in other books mention of the phenomenon of that "window of
opportunity" to learn of the secular world, its history, science and literature
that was opened to Jewish women but not so much to orthodox Jewish men, but I
would like someday to read Parush's book on the subject and will try to borrow
it >from Indiana University's main library.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
BELKOWSKY,BIELKOWSKY, BILKOWSKI, Odessa,St. Petersburg,Berdichev,
Kiev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug;FRASCH,Kiev;LIBERMAN,Moscow;FELDMAN, Pinsk;
SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets;LEVY, WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS/SASS,Podwolochisk;
RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk, Radomysl?; BEHAM, Salok, Kharkov;
WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.

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Re: Ellis Island Wall of Names #ukraine

Adelle Gloger
 

The question has been raised about finding out who placed names on the Walls
at Ellis Island. I have come into this discussion, I think, late. Some of
the responders have given the impression that one can only find out this
information *at* Ellis Island.

On the contrairy. Several years ago, I found a name and was curious about
who these people were. I contacted Ellis Island via e-mail. I received a reply
shortly thereafter, also via e-mail. They could only tell me who placed the
names and their city of residence at that time.

It's worth a try.

Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Cleveland, Ohio
agloger@aol.com


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Interesting article/book review - 19th Century Jewish Women's Literacy #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 10/16/05 3:19:18 AM, lulu_brooks@yahoo.com writes:

<< http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/634885.html

Above is the link to an illuminating book review on the ironies of how formal

exclusion >from Hebrew studies led to more open intellectual worlds for many

Jewish women in old Eastern Europe: >>

If as I did, you had trouble finding the book review using the Haaretz URL
supplied by Lulu Brooks, and you want to know more about the book try instead :


http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:Q9SSH58i--QJ:www.upne.com/1-58465-366-3.html+%22Iris+Parush%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

I have read in other books mention of the phenomenon of that "window of
opportunity" to learn of the secular world, its history, science and literature
that was opened to Jewish women but not so much to orthodox Jewish men, but I
would like someday to read Parush's book on the subject and will try to borrow
it >from Indiana University's main library.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
BELKOWSKY,BIELKOWSKY, BILKOWSKI, Odessa,St. Petersburg,Berdichev,
Kiev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug;FRASCH,Kiev;LIBERMAN,Moscow;FELDMAN, Pinsk;
SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets;LEVY, WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS/SASS,Podwolochisk;
RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk, Radomysl?; BEHAM, Salok, Kharkov;
WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.

MODERATOR'S NOTE: You may need to copy and paste the long url into your browser.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Ellis Island Wall of Names #ukraine

Adelle Gloger
 

The question has been raised about finding out who placed names on the Walls
at Ellis Island. I have come into this discussion, I think, late. Some of
the responders have given the impression that one can only find out this
information *at* Ellis Island.

On the contrairy. Several years ago, I found a name and was curious about
who these people were. I contacted Ellis Island via e-mail. I received a reply
shortly thereafter, also via e-mail. They could only tell me who placed the
names and their city of residence at that time.

It's worth a try.

Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Cleveland, Ohio
agloger@aol.com