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Re: More warts - what was not told
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henryn <henryn@...>
Joy:
Thanks for your post on this thread: Joy Weaver at joyweave@verizon.net wrote on 11/5/05 12:50 AM: <snip> My family has a similar story: There are unconfirmed rumors about the less-than-honorable death of ... When working with information about my relatives or others >from the same shtetls, I'm often faced with this issue. Sometimes what I have about a particular person is mostly warts. I try to consider first the people who were murdered: Had they lived, they would have chosen to reveal their warts, to conceal them, to overcome them -- or some other choice I can't even imagine. I wish they could speak for themselves, but they can't. In theory, I'm prepared to reveal their warts if that's what can be found about them, with care and consideration for their descendents. In practice, I find myself holding back such information. However I choose, as a descendent, the act of making such choices is a way to undo a little of the damage. Thanks, Henry Henry Neugass Palo Alto, CA henryn@zzzspacebbs.com remove 'zzz'
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: More warts - what was not told
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henryn <henryn@...>
Joy:
Thanks for your post on this thread: Joy Weaver at joyweave@verizon.net wrote on 11/5/05 12:50 AM: <snip> My family has a similar story: There are unconfirmed rumors about the less-than-honorable death of ... When working with information about my relatives or others >from the same shtetls, I'm often faced with this issue. Sometimes what I have about a particular person is mostly warts. I try to consider first the people who were murdered: Had they lived, they would have chosen to reveal their warts, to conceal them, to overcome them -- or some other choice I can't even imagine. I wish they could speak for themselves, but they can't. In theory, I'm prepared to reveal their warts if that's what can be found about them, with care and consideration for their descendents. In practice, I find myself holding back such information. However I choose, as a descendent, the act of making such choices is a way to undo a little of the damage. Thanks, Henry Henry Neugass Palo Alto, CA henryn@zzzspacebbs.com remove 'zzz'
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Re: Correction - Origin of Rabbi Oshry's Name
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Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
Unwittingly, I typed the incorrect psalm number for the origin of Rabbi
Oshry's name in my prior message. The correct one is for the psalm known as The Ashrei, Psalm #145. Thanks, Ann Rabinowitz annrab@bellsouth.net
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Correction - Origin of Rabbi Oshry's Name
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Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
Unwittingly, I typed the incorrect psalm number for the origin of Rabbi
Oshry's name in my prior message. The correct one is for the psalm known as The Ashrei, Psalm #145. Thanks, Ann Rabinowitz annrab@bellsouth.net
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Searching for Dita YAGLOM or JAGLOM
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Jane Reifer <cluttercontrol@...>
I wonder if someone can help me get in touch with Dita YAGLOM or JAGLOM of
Israel. She was the daughter of Manfred and Janka REIFER, cousins of mine. I understand that her husband was once mayor of Karmiel, Israel, but I can't seem to confirm that. She is also the sister-in-law of Raia YAGLOM. Thank you for replying privately. Jane Ehrlich Reifer Fullerton, California, USA Researching: REIFER, SAPORIA, SPASSER (any country) REISCH (Revna & Chernivtsi, Ukraine) ROESSLER / RESSLER, HOROWITZ (Horodenka, Stetsova & Chernivtsi, Ukraine) HERZ, DAVIDOWITZ, SCHOEN, EHRLICH (Hungary, Czechoslovakia)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for Dita YAGLOM or JAGLOM
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Jane Reifer <cluttercontrol@...>
I wonder if someone can help me get in touch with Dita YAGLOM or JAGLOM of
Israel. She was the daughter of Manfred and Janka REIFER, cousins of mine. I understand that her husband was once mayor of Karmiel, Israel, but I can't seem to confirm that. She is also the sister-in-law of Raia YAGLOM. Thank you for replying privately. Jane Ehrlich Reifer Fullerton, California, USA Researching: REIFER, SAPORIA, SPASSER (any country) REISCH (Revna & Chernivtsi, Ukraine) ROESSLER / RESSLER, HOROWITZ (Horodenka, Stetsova & Chernivtsi, Ukraine) HERZ, DAVIDOWITZ, SCHOEN, EHRLICH (Hungary, Czechoslovakia)
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Gloria Mound of Casa Shalom, Israel to Speak to JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.
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Barbara Musikar
The Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Miami, Inc. is proud to present
Gloria Mound Founder and Executive Director of Casa Shalom, Institute for Marrano-Anusim Studies in Israel. What: Ms. Mound will discuss the Secret Jews of Spain and Portugal: their history and genealogy, their forced conversion to Christianity in Medieval times and how they secretly kept Jewish observances down to the present time. When: Thursday, November 10, 2005 at 9:30 AM sharp Where:Greater Miami Jewish Federation 4200 Biscayne Blvd. Miami, FL 33137 Room: 2A and 2B Phone: 305-576-4000 Please bring picture ID. Parking lot entrance is at rear of building. This is a free seminar hosted by The Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Miami For further information contact Barbara Musikar at 305-868-9226 or by e-mail at bar945@hotmail.com Barbara Musikar President JGS of Greater Miami, Inc. VP Programming Surfside, FL bmusikar@atlanticbb.net RUBIN, BERGER, PILZER, MESTER, ROTH, WIEDERMAN: Zasdrist, Darachow, Strusow Ukraine KOGUT, PILZER, MESTER, HELLER, GEWIRZ: Mikulince, Ukraine KLEMPNER, PADELOFSKY, WOLKOWISKI, ROISMANT: Kobrin, Brest, Belarus SAMSONOWITZ, KRUPERNICK, WIDOLOK: Slonim, Belarus
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Gloria Mound of Casa Shalom, Israel to Speak to JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.
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Barbara Musikar
The Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Miami, Inc. is proud to present
Gloria Mound Founder and Executive Director of Casa Shalom, Institute for Marrano-Anusim Studies in Israel. What: Ms. Mound will discuss the Secret Jews of Spain and Portugal: their history and genealogy, their forced conversion to Christianity in Medieval times and how they secretly kept Jewish observances down to the present time. When: Thursday, November 10, 2005 at 9:30 AM sharp Where:Greater Miami Jewish Federation 4200 Biscayne Blvd. Miami, FL 33137 Room: 2A and 2B Phone: 305-576-4000 Please bring picture ID. Parking lot entrance is at rear of building. This is a free seminar hosted by The Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Miami For further information contact Barbara Musikar at 305-868-9226 or by e-mail at bar945@hotmail.com Barbara Musikar President JGS of Greater Miami, Inc. VP Programming Surfside, FL bmusikar@atlanticbb.net RUBIN, BERGER, PILZER, MESTER, ROTH, WIEDERMAN: Zasdrist, Darachow, Strusow Ukraine KOGUT, PILZER, MESTER, HELLER, GEWIRZ: Mikulince, Ukraine KLEMPNER, PADELOFSKY, WOLKOWISKI, ROISMANT: Kobrin, Brest, Belarus SAMSONOWITZ, KRUPERNICK, WIDOLOK: Slonim, Belarus
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JGS Greater Philadelphia: Change in November Program
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Joan Rosen <jgrosen@...>
JGSGP regrets that Rabbi Lance Sussman will be unable to meet with us on
November 14. Instead, we will be showing a video. *Echoes that remain* (62 minutes) A study of Jewish shtetl life before the Holocaust, combining hundreds of rare archival photos and previously unseen film footage, with live action sequences shot on location at the sites of former Jewish communities in Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Poland and Romania. We hope to schedule the rabbi for a meeting in the future. Joan ~~~ Joan Rosen, VP for Program JGS Greater Philadelphia jgrosen@verizon.net
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS Greater Philadelphia: Change in November Program
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Joan Rosen <jgrosen@...>
JGSGP regrets that Rabbi Lance Sussman will be unable to meet with us on
November 14. Instead, we will be showing a video. *Echoes that remain* (62 minutes) A study of Jewish shtetl life before the Holocaust, combining hundreds of rare archival photos and previously unseen film footage, with live action sequences shot on location at the sites of former Jewish communities in Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Poland and Romania. We hope to schedule the rabbi for a meeting in the future. Joan ~~~ Joan Rosen, VP for Program JGS Greater Philadelphia jgrosen@verizon.net
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JGSPBCI, FL correction to meeting notice
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Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
Please excuse typo in previous meeting notice:
the correct email address for our Membership Liaison Chairperson is: mnewman714@aol.com. MODERATOR NOTE: THe original message was posted on November 5th, 2005 and was second on the digest.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGSPBCI, FL correction to meeting notice
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Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
Please excuse typo in previous meeting notice:
the correct email address for our Membership Liaison Chairperson is: mnewman714@aol.com. MODERATOR NOTE: THe original message was posted on November 5th, 2005 and was second on the digest.
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Jewish Genealogical Society of Oregon: November 21st Monthly Meeting,
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Ronald D. Doctor <rondoctor@...>
The Jewish Genealogical Society of Oregon (JGSO) invites you, your
family, and friends to our very special November monthly meeting. Date: Monday, November 21, 2005 Time: 7:30 to 9:30 pm Place: Neveh Shalom Chapel 2900 Peaceful Lane Portland, Oregon (Beaverton-Hillsdale Highway/North on Dosch Rd/Right on Peaceful Lane) Finding Home In the Footsteps of the Jewish Fusgeyers presented by Jill Culiner Join the author of the incredible story of Romanian Jews who crossed Europe on foot (fusgeyers is the Yiddish word for 'foot-goers' — wayfarers). In groups sometimes numbering 200-300, they walked >from Romania to the ports of Germany in order to escape anti-Semitism and emigrate to America. In 2005, this book won the Joseph and Faye Tanenbaum Prize in Jewish History >from the Canadian Jewish Book Award Committee. Ms. Culiner is a professional photographer and consummate traveller who divides her time between Toronto, Hungary and France. She currently is preparing an exhibition (with texts) about the Hungarian Holocaust — the ghettos and the vanished synagogues — that will be shown in Budapest at the Holocaust Museum. This event is *free* to JGSO members. Contributions at the door of $2 door are requested >from non-members to help us defray the meeting cost. Contribution can be deducted >from new membership if you join that evening. To be placed on JGS of Oregon's e-mail distribution list, send an e-mail message to rondoctor@earthlink.net. Once you are on the list, you will receive periodic messages concerning Jewish genealogy. Your name and e-mail address will not be distributed outside of JGS of Oregon. For more information about JGSO and its activities, visit the JGSO web site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~orjgs < http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Eorjgs >, or call Joan Teller at 503-636-5626. The JGSO is affiliated with the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Genealogical Society of Oregon: November 21st Monthly Meeting,
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Ronald D. Doctor <rondoctor@...>
The Jewish Genealogical Society of Oregon (JGSO) invites you, your
family, and friends to our very special November monthly meeting. Date: Monday, November 21, 2005 Time: 7:30 to 9:30 pm Place: Neveh Shalom Chapel 2900 Peaceful Lane Portland, Oregon (Beaverton-Hillsdale Highway/North on Dosch Rd/Right on Peaceful Lane) Finding Home In the Footsteps of the Jewish Fusgeyers presented by Jill Culiner Join the author of the incredible story of Romanian Jews who crossed Europe on foot (fusgeyers is the Yiddish word for 'foot-goers' — wayfarers). In groups sometimes numbering 200-300, they walked >from Romania to the ports of Germany in order to escape anti-Semitism and emigrate to America. In 2005, this book won the Joseph and Faye Tanenbaum Prize in Jewish History >from the Canadian Jewish Book Award Committee. Ms. Culiner is a professional photographer and consummate traveller who divides her time between Toronto, Hungary and France. She currently is preparing an exhibition (with texts) about the Hungarian Holocaust — the ghettos and the vanished synagogues — that will be shown in Budapest at the Holocaust Museum. This event is *free* to JGSO members. Contributions at the door of $2 door are requested >from non-members to help us defray the meeting cost. Contribution can be deducted >from new membership if you join that evening. To be placed on JGS of Oregon's e-mail distribution list, send an e-mail message to rondoctor@earthlink.net. Once you are on the list, you will receive periodic messages concerning Jewish genealogy. Your name and e-mail address will not be distributed outside of JGS of Oregon. For more information about JGSO and its activities, visit the JGSO web site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~orjgs < http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Eorjgs >, or call Joan Teller at 503-636-5626. The JGSO is affiliated with the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies.
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Gesher Galicia & BOF Meeting-NYC-Nov. 20th
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Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
Reminder:
Gesher Galicia will be holding a regional meeting jointly sponsored by the Jewish Genealogical Society of New York on Sunday, November 20th at the Center for Jewish History in Manhattan. In addition to the main program, beginning at 2:00PM with speakers Mark Halpern (on JRI-Poland), Suzan Wynne (on Jewish Life in Galicia), Logan Kleinwaks (on using OCR to search Galician/Polish directories) and Shelley Pollero (on Allegro-Polish auction site), and a showing of two short films: "The Jews of Poland-Lvov" shot in 1939, and "I Remember Jewish Drohobycz," an interview with David Einsiedler, we will be holding many birds-of-a-feather meetings >from 12:00N - 2:00PM. These are the towns/villages and cities represented so far are: Suchostaw Region Research Group (SRRG) (Including towns: Skalat, Grzymalowe. Trembowla, Zalesczczki, Kopyczynce, Zbaraz, Borsczow, Buczacz) Kobuszowa Region Research Group (KRRG) & RZESZOW (Including towns: Lancut, Mielec, Nisko, Pisno Ropczyce, Stryzyzow, Tarnobrzeg) Drohobycz, Borislaw, Sambor & Stryj Kolomea region Krakow region Ivano Frankivsk Brozow, Sanok, Lesko, Krosno Lviv region Przemysl For some regions and towns there will be special presentations on travel, maps, books, Holocaust, archival and vital record research and cemetery restoration updates, with opportunities to network and share information with others. If you want to present a report on your town, or have information for a handout specific to your region, please contact Eden Joachim who is coordinating the BOF groups: esjoachim@optonline.net For more information on the main program or BOF meetings go to Gesher Galicia's event page: http://www.jewishgen.org/Galicia/joint_meeting.html#BOF Or the JGSNY web site: http://www.jgsny.org/events.htm These sites provide directions to the Center for Jewish History, lunch options, and detailed program information. We look forward to seeing you there! Pamela Weisberger Research Coordinator, Gesher Galicia pweisberger@hotmail.com
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Gesher Galicia & BOF Meeting-NYC-Nov. 20th
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Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
Reminder:
Gesher Galicia will be holding a regional meeting jointly sponsored by the Jewish Genealogical Society of New York on Sunday, November 20th at the Center for Jewish History in Manhattan. In addition to the main program, beginning at 2:00PM with speakers Mark Halpern (on JRI-Poland), Suzan Wynne (on Jewish Life in Galicia), Logan Kleinwaks (on using OCR to search Galician/Polish directories) and Shelley Pollero (on Allegro-Polish auction site), and a showing of two short films: "The Jews of Poland-Lvov" shot in 1939, and "I Remember Jewish Drohobycz," an interview with David Einsiedler, we will be holding many birds-of-a-feather meetings >from 12:00N - 2:00PM. These are the towns/villages and cities represented so far are: Suchostaw Region Research Group (SRRG) (Including towns: Skalat, Grzymalowe. Trembowla, Zalesczczki, Kopyczynce, Zbaraz, Borsczow, Buczacz) Kobuszowa Region Research Group (KRRG) & RZESZOW (Including towns: Lancut, Mielec, Nisko, Pisno Ropczyce, Stryzyzow, Tarnobrzeg) Drohobycz, Borislaw, Sambor & Stryj Kolomea region Krakow region Ivano Frankivsk Brozow, Sanok, Lesko, Krosno Lviv region Przemysl For some regions and towns there will be special presentations on travel, maps, books, Holocaust, archival and vital record research and cemetery restoration updates, with opportunities to network and share information with others. If you want to present a report on your town, or have information for a handout specific to your region, please contact Eden Joachim who is coordinating the BOF groups: esjoachim@optonline.net For more information on the main program or BOF meetings go to Gesher Galicia's event page: http://www.jewishgen.org/Galicia/joint_meeting.html#BOF Or the JGSNY web site: http://www.jgsny.org/events.htm These sites provide directions to the Center for Jewish History, lunch options, and detailed program information. We look forward to seeing you there! Pamela Weisberger Research Coordinator, Gesher Galicia pweisberger@hotmail.com
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JGS Broward Florida November Meeting
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kasakaplan@...
JGS Broward County Florida Meeting
Wednesday, November 16th at 7:00 PM South Broward Regional Library 7300 Pines Boulevard Pembroke Pines, Florida The month of November has been selected as Jewish Book Month and Jewish Heritage Month. Family traditions and Family heritage -learning where they came from, why they came, and how they came, are part of what the Jewish Genealogical Society of Broward County is all about. How better to show pride in our heritage than to trace the history of Jewish figures in America who had influence in the halls of power - >from Haym Salomon to Joseph Lieberman. Following a short business meeting at 7:00 PM, our guest speaker, Eli Kavon, is scheduled to speak at 7:30 PM. Admission is free and guests are invited. The focus of the evening's lecture will be on Jewish elites in America, >from early Sephardic settlers, to German immigrants, to the arrival of more than a million Jews >from Eastern Europe. A rather large topic, but Eli Kavon will make it come alive for you. Also in November, we have been invited by the North Regional Broward Community College Library to display items of Judaica and Jewish genealogical interest. The showcase is on the second floor and we encourage everyone to stop by and visit. JGSBC is proud to be part of both the North Regional BCC Library celebration of Jewish Heritage Month in November 2005 and honored to host our meeting at the South Broward Library on November 16th. For additional information about the Jewish Genealogical Society of Broward County, please visit our website at www.JGSBroward.org. Elaine L. Kaplan Program Chairman JGS Broward County
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS Broward Florida November Meeting
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kasakaplan@...
JGS Broward County Florida Meeting
Wednesday, November 16th at 7:00 PM South Broward Regional Library 7300 Pines Boulevard Pembroke Pines, Florida The month of November has been selected as Jewish Book Month and Jewish Heritage Month. Family traditions and Family heritage -learning where they came from, why they came, and how they came, are part of what the Jewish Genealogical Society of Broward County is all about. How better to show pride in our heritage than to trace the history of Jewish figures in America who had influence in the halls of power - >from Haym Salomon to Joseph Lieberman. Following a short business meeting at 7:00 PM, our guest speaker, Eli Kavon, is scheduled to speak at 7:30 PM. Admission is free and guests are invited. The focus of the evening's lecture will be on Jewish elites in America, >from early Sephardic settlers, to German immigrants, to the arrival of more than a million Jews >from Eastern Europe. A rather large topic, but Eli Kavon will make it come alive for you. Also in November, we have been invited by the North Regional Broward Community College Library to display items of Judaica and Jewish genealogical interest. The showcase is on the second floor and we encourage everyone to stop by and visit. JGSBC is proud to be part of both the North Regional BCC Library celebration of Jewish Heritage Month in November 2005 and honored to host our meeting at the South Broward Library on November 16th. For additional information about the Jewish Genealogical Society of Broward County, please visit our website at www.JGSBroward.org. Elaine L. Kaplan Program Chairman JGS Broward County
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* Inheritance of surnames (was RE:The Origins of Katz Surname)
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Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
Hello Miriam,
Exactly in which part of Europe and during which historical period marriages were not recognized unless they were "validated" by a civil magistrate? As far as I know, civil registration of marriages - i.e. marriages done by secular courts - only became in use in late 19th century, at least in Central and Eastern Europe. Until then, a religious ceremony was all one needed to have his/her marriage validated. The registration was done by the religious community's registrar, usually the local priest or rabbi, and that resulted in a legally born child which could and indeed did inherited his father's surname. Specifically, in the Hungarian pre-Trianon Kingdom, civil registration only begin in 1895, both for Jews and non-Jews. Rarely have I seen birth records in which the baby inherited his mother's surname. In those rare cases where this happened, it was because the baby was born out of wedlock (a mamser, for the effects of Jewish halakhah). Thus, the 'Katz' surname could very well be handed down for some generations, mainly if it was a Kohanite identification. Regards Tom At 00:00 -0500 06.11.2005, H-SIG digest wrote: Subject: RE:The Origins of Katz Surname-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br> Sao Paulo - Brazil
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Kisber
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michael perl <michael_perl9@...>
Would anyone be able to help with finding details on the Jewish Cemetery in
Kisber? I have reason to be believe that my gt-gt-grandfather may have died there but do not have a date, although it is most probably after 1900. Rather than going through page after page of civil records, it will be easier to check burial records >from the caretaker or whomever else may be able to help. Any ideas would be much appreciated. Michael Perl New York
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