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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica News cite - Fake family trees online #southafrica

pweinthal@...
 

This article contains important information that all genealogists
should be aware of. Genealogy groups are asked to disseminate this
information.

-Pat Weinthal
Boston, MA
USA


Fake family trees online may trip up genealogists
Deseret Morning News (UT), November 12, 2005.

Genealogists beware. A software company is marketing a new program to
Internet advertisers that could quickly generate Web sites full of
extensive, but fake, family trees.... Critics say the approach appears
to be part of a new money-making scheme...


http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635160683,00.html


News cite - Fake family trees online #southafrica

pweinthal@...
 

This article contains important information that all genealogists
should be aware of. Genealogy groups are asked to disseminate this
information.

-Pat Weinthal
Boston, MA
USA


Fake family trees online may trip up genealogists
Deseret Morning News (UT), November 12, 2005.

Genealogists beware. A software company is marketing a new program to
Internet advertisers that could quickly generate Web sites full of
extensive, but fake, family trees.... Critics say the approach appears
to be part of a new money-making scheme...


http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635160683,00.html


KATZ from CT. #general

LNewman900@...
 

Searching for information on Katz family: mother Theresa KATZ Odess
(1900-1962) ; sons Howard and Alan Katz, born abt. 1920; >from CT.

Thank you.

L. Newman
LNewman900@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen KATZ from CT. #general

LNewman900@...
 

Searching for information on Katz family: mother Theresa KATZ Odess
(1900-1962) ; sons Howard and Alan Katz, born abt. 1920; >from CT.

Thank you.

L. Newman
LNewman900@...


New York City Lookup #general

Helen Nussbaum Reiss <helen@...>
 

Dear Genners:

Would someone out there please lookup the marriage certificate of my aunt
and uncle (Rose Lerner and Harry NUSBAUM) who were married in February
1928/1929 in New York City?

I will do a lookup for you in Toronto.

Helen Nussbaum Reiss
Helen@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New York City Lookup #general

Helen Nussbaum Reiss <helen@...>
 

Dear Genners:

Would someone out there please lookup the marriage certificate of my aunt
and uncle (Rose Lerner and Harry NUSBAUM) who were married in February
1928/1929 in New York City?

I will do a lookup for you in Toronto.

Helen Nussbaum Reiss
Helen@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


Jewish cemetery in Hamburg/Altona #general

Howard Margol
 

<<From: Gjfogelson@... - Does anyone have the address of the Jewish
cemetery in Hamburg/Altona on Koenigstrasse? I sent them a letter and it was
returned insufficient address.>>

Go on the internet to the IAJGS Jewish Cemetery site -
http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/

Once there, click on "Western Europe". Next, click on Germany and then click
on the letter "H". Scroll down to Hamburg. A lot of information pertaining
to the Hamburg/Altona cemetery on Koenigstrasse will come up.

Howard Margol
Atlanta, Georgia
homargol@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish cemetery in Hamburg/Altona #general

Howard Margol
 

<<From: Gjfogelson@... - Does anyone have the address of the Jewish
cemetery in Hamburg/Altona on Koenigstrasse? I sent them a letter and it was
returned insufficient address.>>

Go on the internet to the IAJGS Jewish Cemetery site -
http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/

Once there, click on "Western Europe". Next, click on Germany and then click
on the letter "H". Scroll down to Hamburg. A lot of information pertaining
to the Hamburg/Altona cemetery on Koenigstrasse will come up.

Howard Margol
Atlanta, Georgia
homargol@...


Re: Thanks: "Schando" for Alexander #austria-czech

JEF BARNETT <JBarnett@...>
 

Just to add my 2 cents: My wife's grandfather came >from Latvia and was named
Alexander but was called "Sendor"

Jef Barnett
Bensalem, PA

BANDRYMER (Bandrimer or Bandremer) -Serock, Pultusk, Rozan Poland
KRASHA - Serock, Krasnosielc Poland
NOWAK (Novak, Nowack) -Serock, Krasnosielc Poland
BULMAN- Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Thanks: "Schando" for Alexander #general

JEF BARNETT <JBarnett@...>
 

Just to add my 2 cents: My wife's grandfather came >from Latvia and was named
Alexander but was called "Sendor"

Jef Barnett
Bensalem, PA

BANDRYMER (Bandrimer or Bandremer) -Serock, Pultusk, Rozan Poland
KRASHA - Serock, Krasnosielc Poland
NOWAK (Novak, Nowack) -Serock, Krasnosielc Poland
BULMAN- Poland


Name Joshua connected to name Sia? #general

Howard Margol
 

<<From: Mary B mary@... - Can anyone tell me if the name Joshua
has any connection to the given name Sia?>>

Earlier this year I was instrumental in finding a survivors brother who had
been thought dead and missing for 63 years. The missing brother was born in
Kaunas, Lithuania with the name of Jeshua. His family called him Shia.

Howard Margol
Atlanta, Georgia
homargol@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Name Joshua connected to name Sia? #general

Howard Margol
 

<<From: Mary B mary@... - Can anyone tell me if the name Joshua
has any connection to the given name Sia?>>

Earlier this year I was instrumental in finding a survivors brother who had
been thought dead and missing for 63 years. The missing brother was born in
Kaunas, Lithuania with the name of Jeshua. His family called him Shia.

Howard Margol
Atlanta, Georgia
homargol@...


INTRO - Seeking BAER etc #germany

GundR.Reuther@...
 

Hello,Gersig,
I just joined to the group. I have been doing genealogy research for about two
years. The most difficult family-tree for me is the Jewish one. I hardly know
anything about this family.

My great-grandparents are Abraham BAER and Jettchen/Henriette b. STERN
(1819-1909). He was a shoemaker in Bockenheim. When he lived I don't know. Later
his widow lived in Frankfurt. Two children are known:
1. Their son JACOB BAER, my grandfather, (1858-1920) married Franziska geb. Zunz
(widow NEUMANN)(1846-1904). They lived in Frankfurt.
2. Their daughter Lina/Karoline (1864-1942) married Salomon SANDER (1866-1942).
They lived in Frankfurt, too. They got two childern, a boy who died in 1900
already. The daughter Frieda (Rosa) (1893-1941?)married Otto FULD. A daughter
was born in 1923. She managed to escape >from Frankfurt to England at the
21.6.1939. Is anything known about her life?

My grandfather had a step-daughter named Martha Rosa (1872-?). She married
Leo ABELES (1864-1942). Friedrich Moritz (*1900) went to New York at 17.2.1927.
Karl Julius (*1905)? Who knows anything about these boys?

Who can help me to get more information about my ancestors and about my
"relatives"? Had my grandfather had more sisters or brothers? Is there any
descendant of this familiy still living?

I live in North-Bavaria/Germany. My native language is German, of course. I'm
nearly 100 years younger than my grandfather. Thanks for your help!

Rosl Reuther Northern Bavaria GundR.Reuther@...


German SIG #Germany INTRO - Seeking BAER etc #germany

GundR.Reuther@...
 

Hello,Gersig,
I just joined to the group. I have been doing genealogy research for about two
years. The most difficult family-tree for me is the Jewish one. I hardly know
anything about this family.

My great-grandparents are Abraham BAER and Jettchen/Henriette b. STERN
(1819-1909). He was a shoemaker in Bockenheim. When he lived I don't know. Later
his widow lived in Frankfurt. Two children are known:
1. Their son JACOB BAER, my grandfather, (1858-1920) married Franziska geb. Zunz
(widow NEUMANN)(1846-1904). They lived in Frankfurt.
2. Their daughter Lina/Karoline (1864-1942) married Salomon SANDER (1866-1942).
They lived in Frankfurt, too. They got two childern, a boy who died in 1900
already. The daughter Frieda (Rosa) (1893-1941?)married Otto FULD. A daughter
was born in 1923. She managed to escape >from Frankfurt to England at the
21.6.1939. Is anything known about her life?

My grandfather had a step-daughter named Martha Rosa (1872-?). She married
Leo ABELES (1864-1942). Friedrich Moritz (*1900) went to New York at 17.2.1927.
Karl Julius (*1905)? Who knows anything about these boys?

Who can help me to get more information about my ancestors and about my
"relatives"? Had my grandfather had more sisters or brothers? Is there any
descendant of this familiy still living?

I live in North-Bavaria/Germany. My native language is German, of course. I'm
nearly 100 years younger than my grandfather. Thanks for your help!

Rosl Reuther Northern Bavaria GundR.Reuther@...


Re: Names: LOSER-LOESER = ELIEZER? #germany

Roger Lustig <trovato@...>
 

Dear Nurit:
First, a general request to all: if a vowel has an umlaut, just replace it by
putting an E after it: Loeb LOESER. That's entirely legitimate in German; but
simply omitting the umlaut can cause problems and even embarrassment.

Loeb is generally related to Jehuda/Arjeh, i.e., lion. And Loeser is one of many
versions of Eliezer, others being Leiser, Lazar, Lazarus.

Now, if his name was Loeb LOESER, that would suggest Jehuda/Leib/Arjeh ben Eliezer
When you say the first name was transferred, does that mean his father's name
was ... ben Eliezer, or that it was Eliezer ben ...?

If LOESER was used as a surname, one would have every reason to think that the
surname had been derived >from "ben Eliezer."

Roger (ben Eliezer) Lustig Princeton, NJ researching Upper Silesia, mostly

N. Gillath wrote:

My great great grandfather's name was Lob LOSER (or similar), he was
born in 1774. Around 1800 he moved to Bierstat (now part of Wiesbaden)
and changed his name to ACKERMANN, but for 2 generations the name
LOSER was kept then discarded. But the first name Eliezer was
transferred >from one generation to the other. My question is could it
be that Lob LOSER was actually Lob (with an umlaut) ELIEZER, and later
simply called himself LOSER (or maybe Loeser)? If this is a
possibility, this might give me a new way to try and find the history
of the LOSER's before they came to Bierstadt.


German SIG #Germany Re: Names: LOSER-LOESER = ELIEZER? #germany

Roger Lustig <trovato@...>
 

Dear Nurit:
First, a general request to all: if a vowel has an umlaut, just replace it by
putting an E after it: Loeb LOESER. That's entirely legitimate in German; but
simply omitting the umlaut can cause problems and even embarrassment.

Loeb is generally related to Jehuda/Arjeh, i.e., lion. And Loeser is one of many
versions of Eliezer, others being Leiser, Lazar, Lazarus.

Now, if his name was Loeb LOESER, that would suggest Jehuda/Leib/Arjeh ben Eliezer
When you say the first name was transferred, does that mean his father's name
was ... ben Eliezer, or that it was Eliezer ben ...?

If LOESER was used as a surname, one would have every reason to think that the
surname had been derived >from "ben Eliezer."

Roger (ben Eliezer) Lustig Princeton, NJ researching Upper Silesia, mostly

N. Gillath wrote:

My great great grandfather's name was Lob LOSER (or similar), he was
born in 1774. Around 1800 he moved to Bierstat (now part of Wiesbaden)
and changed his name to ACKERMANN, but for 2 generations the name
LOSER was kept then discarded. But the first name Eliezer was
transferred >from one generation to the other. My question is could it
be that Lob LOSER was actually Lob (with an umlaut) ELIEZER, and later
simply called himself LOSER (or maybe Loeser)? If this is a
possibility, this might give me a new way to try and find the history
of the LOSER's before they came to Bierstadt.


The power of persistence: a success story #belarus

David Gordon
 

I have been involved in one way or another with JewishGen since the
mid-1990s. And one of the things that has always been the hardest to
read about was others' success stories. All my persistence somehow
never seemed to pay off. The more leads I chased, the more dead ends
I reached. Occasionally, I would have successes, but they were,
almost without exception, one my mother's side of the family. I have
worked on my family history since the mid-1980s and have been at a
standstill for longer than I care to think about with my father's
family, the Gordons. The fact that it is a common last name in
Lithuania when combined with the fact that no one knew where in
Lithuania the family came >from have stymied my efforts
for--literally--decades.

About four years ago, I had one of those hundreds of short e-mail
correspondences that most of us have--asking someone who is
researching the same last name whether there might be any connection.=20
Nothing came of that correspondence and I forgot about it. Then, this
summer I saw a posting on LitvakSIG that mentioned that Jewish
migration to Springfield, Massachusetts, was largely >from one town in
Lithuania: Butrimantz (Butrimonys). My Gordon family had settled in
Chicopee Falls, close to Springfield, and I thought this might be a
lead I could pursue. Still, life interferes and given the substantial
number of dead end leads I've chased, I put off writing. Finally,
just last week I wrote to Jerry Zeisler who had posted that
information and asked whether he could tell me more.

In fact, Jerry and I had had that very brief correspondence in 2001,
as he later reminded me. But we hadn't pursued things far enough to
find any connection. This time, however, we found the connection
quickly. Jerry quickly involved his sister, Bonnie Frederics, who
brought more information to bear and posted on LitvakSIG with a
question about the names Nochum/Naftali/Nathan. Thanks to the
generosity of others, she was able to confirm that my
great-great-grandfather and theirs were brothers. Just in time for
Thanksgiving!

Jerry lives in Virginia; I live in Chicago, and Bonnie, in Tucson.=20
Would we ever have made the connection without LitvakSIG? Maybe, but
highly unlikely I think.

So I draw two morals >from my little story: your own success story is
out there too--never give up on being persistent and chasing leads.=20
Second, be careful when responding to that unsolicited query from
someone you don't know. Make sure you list all the names that might
help. I no longer have our 2001 correspondence so I don't know how we
missed connecting the first time--but perhaps it was simply my failure
to go back far enough with the names.

In any case, although this is a success story and a happy beginning
for all of us, I am writing to encourage everyone else who has yet to
have that success. Persistence will pay off. It may not be this year
or even soon. But these boards are, perhaps, the most valuable
resource we have: we need to support them to make success stories
possible. Maybe your success will come through correspondence;
perhaps it will come through finding a name in newly translated
records posted here. Although none of us has enough money to
contribute to all the worthy causes in our lives, and few of us have
enough to contribute to all the worthy causes within JewishGen itself,
every little bit helps--and I encourage anyone reading this far to
make that contribution. It paid off for us. It can help make
possible your success story too.

Good luck!

David Gordon
Chicago, IL
MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen collects "success stories". Scroll down to the bottom
of the JG home page and click on "Success Stories" to add your own.
Searching: GORDON (Butrimantz!); LEVINE (Butrimantz); BLOCH (not
sure); HORWITZ (Lapichi, Smolevichi); GIBALOVITCH (Borisov); DRAZIN
(Bobruisk); BENENSON (Borisov); HURWITZ (Gomel).


Belarus SIG #Belarus The power of persistence: a success story #belarus

David Gordon
 

I have been involved in one way or another with JewishGen since the
mid-1990s. And one of the things that has always been the hardest to
read about was others' success stories. All my persistence somehow
never seemed to pay off. The more leads I chased, the more dead ends
I reached. Occasionally, I would have successes, but they were,
almost without exception, one my mother's side of the family. I have
worked on my family history since the mid-1980s and have been at a
standstill for longer than I care to think about with my father's
family, the Gordons. The fact that it is a common last name in
Lithuania when combined with the fact that no one knew where in
Lithuania the family came >from have stymied my efforts
for--literally--decades.

About four years ago, I had one of those hundreds of short e-mail
correspondences that most of us have--asking someone who is
researching the same last name whether there might be any connection.=20
Nothing came of that correspondence and I forgot about it. Then, this
summer I saw a posting on LitvakSIG that mentioned that Jewish
migration to Springfield, Massachusetts, was largely >from one town in
Lithuania: Butrimantz (Butrimonys). My Gordon family had settled in
Chicopee Falls, close to Springfield, and I thought this might be a
lead I could pursue. Still, life interferes and given the substantial
number of dead end leads I've chased, I put off writing. Finally,
just last week I wrote to Jerry Zeisler who had posted that
information and asked whether he could tell me more.

In fact, Jerry and I had had that very brief correspondence in 2001,
as he later reminded me. But we hadn't pursued things far enough to
find any connection. This time, however, we found the connection
quickly. Jerry quickly involved his sister, Bonnie Frederics, who
brought more information to bear and posted on LitvakSIG with a
question about the names Nochum/Naftali/Nathan. Thanks to the
generosity of others, she was able to confirm that my
great-great-grandfather and theirs were brothers. Just in time for
Thanksgiving!

Jerry lives in Virginia; I live in Chicago, and Bonnie, in Tucson.=20
Would we ever have made the connection without LitvakSIG? Maybe, but
highly unlikely I think.

So I draw two morals >from my little story: your own success story is
out there too--never give up on being persistent and chasing leads.=20
Second, be careful when responding to that unsolicited query from
someone you don't know. Make sure you list all the names that might
help. I no longer have our 2001 correspondence so I don't know how we
missed connecting the first time--but perhaps it was simply my failure
to go back far enough with the names.

In any case, although this is a success story and a happy beginning
for all of us, I am writing to encourage everyone else who has yet to
have that success. Persistence will pay off. It may not be this year
or even soon. But these boards are, perhaps, the most valuable
resource we have: we need to support them to make success stories
possible. Maybe your success will come through correspondence;
perhaps it will come through finding a name in newly translated
records posted here. Although none of us has enough money to
contribute to all the worthy causes in our lives, and few of us have
enough to contribute to all the worthy causes within JewishGen itself,
every little bit helps--and I encourage anyone reading this far to
make that contribution. It paid off for us. It can help make
possible your success story too.

Good luck!

David Gordon
Chicago, IL
MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen collects "success stories". Scroll down to the bottom
of the JG home page and click on "Success Stories" to add your own.
Searching: GORDON (Butrimantz!); LEVINE (Butrimantz); BLOCH (not
sure); HORWITZ (Lapichi, Smolevichi); GIBALOVITCH (Borisov); DRAZIN
(Bobruisk); BENENSON (Borisov); HURWITZ (Gomel).


Re: Jehoschua name for Schie #general

rojac
 

subject : Jehoschua name for Schie

This is exactly the same as the polish pronunciation for Jehoschua or Josue
is *Schie*.

regards

S. Rotkopf
Antwerp/Belgium


Sia #general

Ellen Gottfried <en@...>
 

My grandfather was Shia Abba and he called himself Abe. However, in Polish
the name Shia (or Sia) is a dimunitive of Joshua.
Ellen Gottfried, Plainview
New York looking for GOTTFRIED, MAYMAN, PFEFFER, FINKELTAL, NADLER, SOLOMON,
NATHAN, SUSSMAN

-----Original Message-----
Can anyone tell me if the name Joshua has any connection to the given
name Sia? I have an ancestor who was known as Sia in Humenne, Slovakia
in the early 1800's. I have a death certificate, hopefully of his son
in 1928 New York, where the father's name is stated as Joshua. I would
like to work out if these are the same man.

Mary Blumenstein
Melbourne, Australia