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Schwarz family search #austria-czech

Herbert Schwarz <schwarzs@...>
 

I am researching the bohemian SCHWARZ Family. I have Nathan SCHWARZ Born
Chausnik, married to Lidmila. Their son (my GGrandfather) Jakob SCHWARZ was
born Aug.30,1811 in Chausnik, he was married to Barbara.

Their son Moritz Schwarz was born Feb.26,1852 in Gauftnitz-Stadl (Gauftnitz
could be Chausnik), Moritz was married to Franciska (Fani) Popper born May
14,1856 in Radnin. (Bothe Radenin and Chaustnik are in the Tabor Area).
My father Siegfried Schwarz was born Dec.1,1895 in Jablonski, siblings were
as follows,
Klara married to Zigmund LEDERER, Kamila married to Viktor KLEMENS, Ida
married to Adolf WEDELES, Elsa married to Bohus SCHNEIDER, Berta married to
Sigmund ZALUD, brothers were Ludwik, Julius and Otto.
Except for Siegfried and Ludwik, all the remaining siblings were holocaust
victims.

Any information on the foregoing would be appreciated.

Herb Schwarz
Ontario,Canada


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Schwarz family search #austria-czech

Herbert Schwarz <schwarzs@...>
 

I am researching the bohemian SCHWARZ Family. I have Nathan SCHWARZ Born
Chausnik, married to Lidmila. Their son (my GGrandfather) Jakob SCHWARZ was
born Aug.30,1811 in Chausnik, he was married to Barbara.

Their son Moritz Schwarz was born Feb.26,1852 in Gauftnitz-Stadl (Gauftnitz
could be Chausnik), Moritz was married to Franciska (Fani) Popper born May
14,1856 in Radnin. (Bothe Radenin and Chaustnik are in the Tabor Area).
My father Siegfried Schwarz was born Dec.1,1895 in Jablonski, siblings were
as follows,
Klara married to Zigmund LEDERER, Kamila married to Viktor KLEMENS, Ida
married to Adolf WEDELES, Elsa married to Bohus SCHNEIDER, Berta married to
Sigmund ZALUD, brothers were Ludwik, Julius and Otto.
Except for Siegfried and Ludwik, all the remaining siblings were holocaust
victims.

Any information on the foregoing would be appreciated.

Herb Schwarz
Ontario,Canada


Abraham Stern - Cross Reference in the 1793 Census #austria-czech

Amira Kohn-Trattner <amira.kt@...>
 

Thank you Celia for the detailed research steps which are so interesting to
follow. I also appreciated your comment about the search in the indexes and
the census as an art in itself. Several months ago, I went to the New York
Public Library to see whether I can have a look at the 1793 census. The NY
Public Library does not have the Census but I was informed that they could
request it on loan >from several universities. The four volumes arrived in
NY after several weeks >from Stamford University. I spent a day researching
and found it so fascinating but also very difficult to figure it out. May I
suggest the possibility of a conference/workshop for those of us who would
like to learn some of the research methods? It could be a nice get together
anyway.

Amira Kohn-Trattner
New York, N.Y.


How to find relations: BOGART/DAITCH Republic of Georgia (Russia) - USA #general

Terry McMahon <joema62@...>
 

I am looking to find where my Grandmother came from. She was born under
the name of BOGART in the Republic of Georgia in Russia somewhere around
1900 I searched the database using Russia as the country without
success. I also searched using Georgia as the country without success
When she left Russia to avoid the Pogroms as that time she emigrated to
the U.S. On the boat she came on she married a Samuel DAITCH and
arrived in New York Ellis Island as Mrs Daitch. I also looked in the
Database for Daitch without success. Can anyone tell me how to do a
better search to find out about my Grandmother. All the information I
have is inputted into the DB.

Regards
Terry McMahon
191231


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Abraham Stern - Cross Reference in the 1793 Census #austria-czech

Amira Kohn-Trattner <amira.kt@...>
 

Thank you Celia for the detailed research steps which are so interesting to
follow. I also appreciated your comment about the search in the indexes and
the census as an art in itself. Several months ago, I went to the New York
Public Library to see whether I can have a look at the 1793 census. The NY
Public Library does not have the Census but I was informed that they could
request it on loan >from several universities. The four volumes arrived in
NY after several weeks >from Stamford University. I spent a day researching
and found it so fascinating but also very difficult to figure it out. May I
suggest the possibility of a conference/workshop for those of us who would
like to learn some of the research methods? It could be a nice get together
anyway.

Amira Kohn-Trattner
New York, N.Y.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen How to find relations: BOGART/DAITCH Republic of Georgia (Russia) - USA #general

Terry McMahon <joema62@...>
 

I am looking to find where my Grandmother came from. She was born under
the name of BOGART in the Republic of Georgia in Russia somewhere around
1900 I searched the database using Russia as the country without
success. I also searched using Georgia as the country without success
When she left Russia to avoid the Pogroms as that time she emigrated to
the U.S. On the boat she came on she married a Samuel DAITCH and
arrived in New York Ellis Island as Mrs Daitch. I also looked in the
Database for Daitch without success. Can anyone tell me how to do a
better search to find out about my Grandmother. All the information I
have is inputted into the DB.

Regards
Terry McMahon
191231


Abraham STERN, 1793 census etc #austria-czech

Thomas Fuerth <08.330516@...>
 

I have found the rigth Abraham STERN first through Julius Mueller who found
his son Wolf in the Familianten book. Wolf STERN was father of my
grandfather´s grandmother. Then I got information >from a third cousin in
Prague Jiri Dubsky, who´s father made a family tree where Abraham and his
wife Rosina were amog all other names. I got their birth and death dates
this way. Then I got information >from Alex Calzareth - who also is related
to this Abraham Stern - about the inventory in Judaica Bohemiae, where all
the children are listed. Then I went to the 1793 census vol I and III. In
the inventory it says that Abraham owned a house in Kardasch Retschitz and
in vol III page 348 I found two of his sons there: my Wolf and a brother
Joachim. In vol I page 260 Trebon you will find all the children. And in vol
III page 333 you will find Abraham STERN´s sepmother Francisca widow after
Elias STERN, who was Abraham´s father.

Three of the eleven children of Abraham were married and their husbans´names
were in the inventory and I found all three of them in the 1793 census. One
of the marreid daughters were Anna. She was married to Lazar FUERTH and
their daughter is the link to Susie´s family tree. How Lazar FUERTH is
related to my FUERTH I do not know yet, but he as well as my FUERTH people
are >from Susice.

This long answer only to show that I think that the printed version of the
1793 census is very good source to trace relatives. But you must read
through all the books because people moved and lived at different places and
you must combine with information >from vital records and Familianten books.

On internet http://www.rozmberk.org/English/index.html I also found a map
of the Jewish houses in Kardasch Retschitz with all the names of the house
owners. When I first found this site I did not know that this Abraham STERN
was my Abraham, but now I know that he was. Something happened with this
web site and there is only the text left no pictures and no map. But I have
a copy of the map.

Thomas Fuerth
Stockholm, Sweden
08.330516@telia.com

FUERTH, Susice and Kolesovice, HELLER, Orakov, ENGEL, Libomysl and Prague,
STERN, Trebon, STERN, Miskovice, LEINER, Blsany, GROSSMAN, Police and
Vienna, JANOWSKY, Janovice nad Uhlavou, POPPER and DUSCHENES, Breznice and
Prague
GROSZMANN, Mor Hungary, MANDL, Mor, Hungary.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Abraham STERN, 1793 census etc #austria-czech

Thomas Fuerth <08.330516@...>
 

I have found the rigth Abraham STERN first through Julius Mueller who found
his son Wolf in the Familianten book. Wolf STERN was father of my
grandfather´s grandmother. Then I got information >from a third cousin in
Prague Jiri Dubsky, who´s father made a family tree where Abraham and his
wife Rosina were amog all other names. I got their birth and death dates
this way. Then I got information >from Alex Calzareth - who also is related
to this Abraham Stern - about the inventory in Judaica Bohemiae, where all
the children are listed. Then I went to the 1793 census vol I and III. In
the inventory it says that Abraham owned a house in Kardasch Retschitz and
in vol III page 348 I found two of his sons there: my Wolf and a brother
Joachim. In vol I page 260 Trebon you will find all the children. And in vol
III page 333 you will find Abraham STERN´s sepmother Francisca widow after
Elias STERN, who was Abraham´s father.

Three of the eleven children of Abraham were married and their husbans´names
were in the inventory and I found all three of them in the 1793 census. One
of the marreid daughters were Anna. She was married to Lazar FUERTH and
their daughter is the link to Susie´s family tree. How Lazar FUERTH is
related to my FUERTH I do not know yet, but he as well as my FUERTH people
are >from Susice.

This long answer only to show that I think that the printed version of the
1793 census is very good source to trace relatives. But you must read
through all the books because people moved and lived at different places and
you must combine with information >from vital records and Familianten books.

On internet http://www.rozmberk.org/English/index.html I also found a map
of the Jewish houses in Kardasch Retschitz with all the names of the house
owners. When I first found this site I did not know that this Abraham STERN
was my Abraham, but now I know that he was. Something happened with this
web site and there is only the text left no pictures and no map. But I have
a copy of the map.

Thomas Fuerth
Stockholm, Sweden
08.330516@telia.com

FUERTH, Susice and Kolesovice, HELLER, Orakov, ENGEL, Libomysl and Prague,
STERN, Trebon, STERN, Miskovice, LEINER, Blsany, GROSSMAN, Police and
Vienna, JANOWSKY, Janovice nad Uhlavou, POPPER and DUSCHENES, Breznice and
Prague
GROSZMANN, Mor Hungary, MANDL, Mor, Hungary.


Polish records? #belarus

J & N Kantrowitz <kant1@...>
 

Dear Friends,

I would like to obtain a birth certificate for our cousin who was born
in Nesvizh or nearby
Klechm, Belarus sometime during the 1920's. She arrived in the U. S.
in 1929 as a child of 5, 6, or so. During the 1920's Nesvizh was a
part of Poland. Where would she apply for such a document? If she
needs a research person there, please recommend same and an indication
of the charge involved.[MODERATOR NOTE: Private replies only]

She and I will be enormously grateful for any help you may provide.
Here is the information:

Nettie Katz is the child of Rachmeil (Robert) Katz and Braine (Bessie)
Bloch Katz. Her father preceded her mother in emigrating to New York
City. Nettie is listed only on her mother's passport as "fille",
daughter.

Sincerely,

Joanne Kantrowitz
Chicago, Illinois

e-mail: kant1@rcn. com


Belarus SIG #Belarus Polish records? #belarus

J & N Kantrowitz <kant1@...>
 

Dear Friends,

I would like to obtain a birth certificate for our cousin who was born
in Nesvizh or nearby
Klechm, Belarus sometime during the 1920's. She arrived in the U. S.
in 1929 as a child of 5, 6, or so. During the 1920's Nesvizh was a
part of Poland. Where would she apply for such a document? If she
needs a research person there, please recommend same and an indication
of the charge involved.[MODERATOR NOTE: Private replies only]

She and I will be enormously grateful for any help you may provide.
Here is the information:

Nettie Katz is the child of Rachmeil (Robert) Katz and Braine (Bessie)
Bloch Katz. Her father preceded her mother in emigrating to New York
City. Nettie is listed only on her mother's passport as "fille",
daughter.

Sincerely,

Joanne Kantrowitz
Chicago, Illinois

e-mail: kant1@rcn. com


Kiev Region-Surnames & Towns I'm Researching #ukraine

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

I am researching the following surnames >from the Kiev region of Ukraine,
originally Russia:

BOODNICK (or BUDNICK), TARRON (TARREN), HARRON, CUTLER, and RESCHNIKOF

from towns that sound like: BOGUSLAV, BRUIM, RATNO, KARLICK or GARADISH
(These famillies emigrated at the turn of the century to the lower east side
of NYC, then moved to St. Louis, MO and later Los Angeles, CA)

If these names or towns have connections to your research, please contact me
privately unless you have information of interest to the group.

Thank you.....

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Kiev Region-Surnames & Towns I'm Researching #ukraine

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

I am researching the following surnames >from the Kiev region of Ukraine,
originally Russia:

BOODNICK (or BUDNICK), TARRON (TARREN), HARRON, CUTLER, and RESCHNIKOF

from towns that sound like: BOGUSLAV, BRUIM, RATNO, KARLICK or GARADISH
(These famillies emigrated at the turn of the century to the lower east side
of NYC, then moved to St. Louis, MO and later Los Angeles, CA)

If these names or towns have connections to your research, please contact me
privately unless you have information of interest to the group.

Thank you.....

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com


Re: Schwarz family search - Chausnik, Tabor Kreis #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Herbert Schwarz of Toronto is looking for the Bohemian SCHWARZ family.
He has Nathan SCHWARZ born Chausnik, married to Lidmila. Their son
(Herbert's gt-grandfather) Jakob SCHWARZ was born Aug. 30. 1811 in
Chausnik, he was married to Barbara.

Their son Moritz SCHWARZ was born 26 Feb 1852 in Gauftnitz-Stadl
[Gauftnitz could be Chausnik]; Moritz was married to Franciska (Fani)
POPPER born May 14,1856 in Radnin - Radenin and Chausnik are both in
the Tabor Area.

This search also yielded its frustrations as Chausnik is not indexed
[forgotten perhaps?] but is listed in the Table of Jewish Communities
of the Tabor Kreis [Vol III p 420]. It was not too difficult to find by
thumbing through and by looking up *SCHWARZ*.

However, had Herbert checked the Austria-Czech message archive [a
prerequisite for any posting] he should have noticed that I had written
about this SCHWARZ family very recently - 20th October 2005, STEIN
family of Skopitetz. Please enter *Chausnik* into the Austria-Czech
SIG message archive *search box* and you will find the reference to
SCHWARZ.

I cannot emphasise too strongly that this archival message search
offers us a goldmine of cross-linked data.

In 1793, Jakob SCHWARZ {Herbert's gtgtgt-grandfather] lives in a
rented property in Chausnik, [Choustnik], Tabor Kreis surrounded
by his large family [Vol III p 328]. He deals in tobacco, wool,
feathers and miscellaneous textiles. His wife is Barbara. The happy
couple have four unmarried sons: Nathan, Wolf, Alexander and Jakob
as well as five daughters, Sara, Susanna, Paula, Sibilla and Elisabetha.

So this must be Herbert's gtgt-grandfather *Nathan*, as there is no
other Schwarz in Chausnik. As Nathan's son, Jakob, was born in 1811
we might assume that the latest Nathan could have married was in 1810
i.e. Nathan might have been born in 1785. In fact, logically, the
latest he could be born is mid-1789 as he is the oldest of four boys
and the census was taken on 28th January 1793. Anyway, Jakob Snr must
have been born at the latest ca 1760.

The Jewish families in Chausnik are SCHMOLKA, KOHNx4, LAFLER [umlaut];
HERRMANN & METZEL. A schoolboy >from Prague called Samuel WEISKOPF is
staying with Samuel KOHN and his family and Herschel METZKER >from
Drachowitz is an apprentice in the distillery of Juda HERRMANN.

They above named families are the permanent residents of Chausnik but
they have a schoolmaster Jakob LINKER >from Horzepnik/Horepnik, Tabor
Kreis. There are no other LINKER in the Tabor Kreis but there is a
book-dealer [very rare in this census] called David BERG and his wife,
Judita, who live in house No 15 Horzepnik. I would not be surprised
if Jakob LINKER took a few of David BERG's second-hand books with him
to Chausnik to use in his lessons to the nine SCHWARZ children.

Herbert owes Jakob LINKER, their teacher, a big thank you for his efforts.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Schwarz family search - Chausnik, Tabor Kreis #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Herbert Schwarz of Toronto is looking for the Bohemian SCHWARZ family.
He has Nathan SCHWARZ born Chausnik, married to Lidmila. Their son
(Herbert's gt-grandfather) Jakob SCHWARZ was born Aug. 30. 1811 in
Chausnik, he was married to Barbara.

Their son Moritz SCHWARZ was born 26 Feb 1852 in Gauftnitz-Stadl
[Gauftnitz could be Chausnik]; Moritz was married to Franciska (Fani)
POPPER born May 14,1856 in Radnin - Radenin and Chausnik are both in
the Tabor Area.

This search also yielded its frustrations as Chausnik is not indexed
[forgotten perhaps?] but is listed in the Table of Jewish Communities
of the Tabor Kreis [Vol III p 420]. It was not too difficult to find by
thumbing through and by looking up *SCHWARZ*.

However, had Herbert checked the Austria-Czech message archive [a
prerequisite for any posting] he should have noticed that I had written
about this SCHWARZ family very recently - 20th October 2005, STEIN
family of Skopitetz. Please enter *Chausnik* into the Austria-Czech
SIG message archive *search box* and you will find the reference to
SCHWARZ.

I cannot emphasise too strongly that this archival message search
offers us a goldmine of cross-linked data.

In 1793, Jakob SCHWARZ {Herbert's gtgtgt-grandfather] lives in a
rented property in Chausnik, [Choustnik], Tabor Kreis surrounded
by his large family [Vol III p 328]. He deals in tobacco, wool,
feathers and miscellaneous textiles. His wife is Barbara. The happy
couple have four unmarried sons: Nathan, Wolf, Alexander and Jakob
as well as five daughters, Sara, Susanna, Paula, Sibilla and Elisabetha.

So this must be Herbert's gtgt-grandfather *Nathan*, as there is no
other Schwarz in Chausnik. As Nathan's son, Jakob, was born in 1811
we might assume that the latest Nathan could have married was in 1810
i.e. Nathan might have been born in 1785. In fact, logically, the
latest he could be born is mid-1789 as he is the oldest of four boys
and the census was taken on 28th January 1793. Anyway, Jakob Snr must
have been born at the latest ca 1760.

The Jewish families in Chausnik are SCHMOLKA, KOHNx4, LAFLER [umlaut];
HERRMANN & METZEL. A schoolboy >from Prague called Samuel WEISKOPF is
staying with Samuel KOHN and his family and Herschel METZKER >from
Drachowitz is an apprentice in the distillery of Juda HERRMANN.

They above named families are the permanent residents of Chausnik but
they have a schoolmaster Jakob LINKER >from Horzepnik/Horepnik, Tabor
Kreis. There are no other LINKER in the Tabor Kreis but there is a
book-dealer [very rare in this census] called David BERG and his wife,
Judita, who live in house No 15 Horzepnik. I would not be surprised
if Jakob LINKER took a few of David BERG's second-hand books with him
to Chausnik to use in his lessons to the nine SCHWARZ children.

Herbert owes Jakob LINKER, their teacher, a big thank you for his efforts.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Kiev Region-Surnames & Towns I'm Researching #general

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

I am researching the following surnames >from the Kiev region of Ukraine,
originally Russia:

BOODNICK (or BUDNICK), TARRON (TARREN), HARRON, CUTLER, and RESCHNIKOF

from towns that sound like: BOGUSLAV, BRUIM, RATNO, KARLICK or GARADISH
(These famillies emigrated at the turn of the century to the lower east side
of NYC, then moved to St. Louis, MO and later Los Angeles, CA)

If these names or towns have connections to your research, please contact me
privately unless you have information of interest to the group.

Thank you.....

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com


FREUND + RAPAPORT + two cardiologists + USA #general

Andres Carciente
 

I would appreciate any information about *two*
cardiologists living in the USA:
Family name FREUND.
Their mother's family name is RAPAPORT who was born in
Nyiracsad,Hungary.

I have found that their great-grandfather Mor RAPAPORT
and my gg-grandfather Antal (Naftali) RAPAPORT were
brothers!!!

Thanks,

Andres Carciente
Budapest


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kiev Region-Surnames & Towns I'm Researching #general

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

I am researching the following surnames >from the Kiev region of Ukraine,
originally Russia:

BOODNICK (or BUDNICK), TARRON (TARREN), HARRON, CUTLER, and RESCHNIKOF

from towns that sound like: BOGUSLAV, BRUIM, RATNO, KARLICK or GARADISH
(These famillies emigrated at the turn of the century to the lower east side
of NYC, then moved to St. Louis, MO and later Los Angeles, CA)

If these names or towns have connections to your research, please contact me
privately unless you have information of interest to the group.

Thank you.....

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen FREUND + RAPAPORT + two cardiologists + USA #general

Andres Carciente
 

I would appreciate any information about *two*
cardiologists living in the USA:
Family name FREUND.
Their mother's family name is RAPAPORT who was born in
Nyiracsad,Hungary.

I have found that their great-grandfather Mor RAPAPORT
and my gg-grandfather Antal (Naftali) RAPAPORT were
brothers!!!

Thanks,

Andres Carciente
Budapest


Dorothy Kosoff?? #general

Thomas F. Weiss
 

Dear Fellow JewishGenners,

I have found that there are Pages of Testimony in Yad Vashem
submitted by a Dorothy KOSOFF of California that may be relevant to
my family. I have tried getting in touch with her through JGFF
without success. Examining FindUSA yields the address of someone who
is very likely to be her but indicates that she may be deceased as of
2003. Examination of the SSDI appears to confirm this. There are
also indications that her husband, named Al, is also deceased. So I
am a bit stuck. Did anyone out there know a Dorothy Kosoff who lived
in both Woodland Hills, California and Northridge, California? If so
I would like to get with her family. Please respond to me privately
at tfweiss@mit.edu

Thank you,
--
Thomas Fischer Weiss
Newton, MA
USA
tfweiss@mit.edu

Researching:
FRENKEL (Buchach, Vienna); BUCHHALTER (Skalat); ENGEL (Vienna);
FISCHER (Hriskov, Schlan, Prague); FRAENKEL, FRUCHTER (Rozhnyatov,
Vienna); KATZ (Schlan); KLEPETAR (Jistebnice); MEISELS (Nadworna,
Vienna); OLLOP (Vienna); ORLIK (Pohor, Jistebnice, Benesov, Tabor);
QUADRATSTEIN (Vienna, Saarbrucken); VODICKA (Dobronitz, Jistebnice,
Benesov, Tabor)


HEN family #general

michael <ginm@...>
 

I am looking for the HEN (CHEN) family who came >from Rogachev in Belarus to
Israel in the beginning of the 20th century and lived in Haifa. The father
was David and the mother Nehama.Thank you all.
Zeev Ginzburg ginm@netvision.net.il