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cavalry and escape routes #lithuania

leorca27 <leorca27@...>
 

I too am eager for information about the Russian cavalry. How did
conscription differ >from the army? Or in rural areas was it assumed that
most would go into the cavalry rather than the army? Was there any protocol
in deciding cavalry or army being called up for either the Russo-Japanese
war or defense of the monarchy? Does anyone know where a cavalry recruit
from the Lida area would have been posted? And what would his routine have
been? Does anyone have a list of train depots in the area that were heavily
used for troop movements?

What have others found to be the more common escape routes, if a troop
train had been jumped in 1903-1904? I know my grandfather arrived in
London in early 1904, but don't know how he got there. Where would he
likely have hid? How aggressive was the army in pursuing deserters? How
would he have crossed the border? What papers were necessary? Depending
on the route taken what difficulties would he have encountered? How did
your relatives' "on route" experiences differ in getting >from Lida to
various points of exit >from the continent (Germany, The Netherlands,
Finland, etc.?). Are there anecdotes you remember? Those that helped
or hurt them?

Thanks,
James Barron (Boston)


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Subject: Jews in the Russian Cavalry
From: irene jalowayski <ijaloway@...>
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 08:21:48 -0800 (PST)
X-Message-Number: 1

We are also researching my husband's family. How many Jews were in
the Russian Cavalry? How far back does that go. We have information
that my husband's great great great grandfather may have been in either
the Russian or Lituanian cavalry around 1800. Would this be possible?
Does anyone know. We are researching Jalowayski in Lithuania.

Irene Jalowayski
Jews in the Russian Army #lithuania

Roy Mankovitz <roy@...>
 

In reply to the request for information on Jews in the Russian
Cavalry, I can recommend a reference describing the life of the Jews
in the Russian Army under the reign of Nicholas I, under the
Cantonist Decrees (circa 1827-1855). The book is called "The
Cantonists - The Jewish Children's Army of the Tsar", by Larry
Dominitch, Devora Publishing, 2003. It chronicles some of the
saddest stories of what our Russian ancestors endured, including how
Jewish families and friends were turned against each other, and how
family names were changed to protect their sons. Be sure to have a
hankie handy.

Roy Mankovitz
Montecito, CA
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania cavalry and escape routes #lithuania

leorca27 <leorca27@...>
 

I too am eager for information about the Russian cavalry. How did
conscription differ >from the army? Or in rural areas was it assumed that
most would go into the cavalry rather than the army? Was there any protocol
in deciding cavalry or army being called up for either the Russo-Japanese
war or defense of the monarchy? Does anyone know where a cavalry recruit
from the Lida area would have been posted? And what would his routine have
been? Does anyone have a list of train depots in the area that were heavily
used for troop movements?

What have others found to be the more common escape routes, if a troop
train had been jumped in 1903-1904? I know my grandfather arrived in
London in early 1904, but don't know how he got there. Where would he
likely have hid? How aggressive was the army in pursuing deserters? How
would he have crossed the border? What papers were necessary? Depending
on the route taken what difficulties would he have encountered? How did
your relatives' "on route" experiences differ in getting >from Lida to
various points of exit >from the continent (Germany, The Netherlands,
Finland, etc.?). Are there anecdotes you remember? Those that helped
or hurt them?

Thanks,
James Barron (Boston)


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Subject: Jews in the Russian Cavalry
From: irene jalowayski <ijaloway@...>
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 08:21:48 -0800 (PST)
X-Message-Number: 1

We are also researching my husband's family. How many Jews were in
the Russian Cavalry? How far back does that go. We have information
that my husband's great great great grandfather may have been in either
the Russian or Lituanian cavalry around 1800. Would this be possible?
Does anyone know. We are researching Jalowayski in Lithuania.

Irene Jalowayski
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Jews in the Russian Army #lithuania

Roy Mankovitz <roy@...>
 

In reply to the request for information on Jews in the Russian
Cavalry, I can recommend a reference describing the life of the Jews
in the Russian Army under the reign of Nicholas I, under the
Cantonist Decrees (circa 1827-1855). The book is called "The
Cantonists - The Jewish Children's Army of the Tsar", by Larry
Dominitch, Devora Publishing, 2003. It chronicles some of the
saddest stories of what our Russian ancestors endured, including how
Jewish families and friends were turned against each other, and how
family names were changed to protect their sons. Be sure to have a
hankie handy.

Roy Mankovitz
Montecito, CA
Vilnius and Utena ancest0rs: you may be the missing puzzle piece #lithuania

lynnchait@...
 

My sister, Simon Chaitowitz, has dedicated her life to public health
issues. She is a kind and generous spirit. She is 53 years old and
contracted an acute disease of her bone marrow (myelodysplastic syndrome)
resulting >from the chemotherapy she received in connection with breast
cancer treatment two years ago. On a personal level, she is my only
sibling and the first great love of my life. Her many friends, her
husband, and my 8 year old son need her to overcome this disease.
Her only chance of survival is a successful bone marrow transplant.
I was not a match. There were no matches in the national or worldwide
bone marrow registries. In the absence of a match, her doctors have
settled on an alternative bone marrow treatment -- a cord blood
transplant, using stem cells >from umbilical cords -- but this is
experimental and not preferable. Because Simon is so sick, she is
receiving chemotherapy in preparation for the cord blood transplant.
While we wait over the next 20 or so days, we are desparately looking
for Simon's miracle match.

The chances of finding such a match are better among family members,
but we have very few of those. Thus, Simon's best chance of finding a
genetically matched bone marrow lies with those of Jewish ethnic
ancestry, >from the area in and around Lithuania. Our maternal
grandparents were >from a small town (possible phonetic spelling:
Machelishkiai) outside Vilnius. Our paternal grandparents were >from
Utena, Lithuana.

Because time is very short, we need people to get tested on an
expedited basis, and this can only be done through a private bone
marrow testing agency.

If someone is interested in getting testing, he/she should contact
me immediately so that I can provide details.
My email address is Lynnchait@....
Thank you, Dina Chaitowitz

MODERATOR'S NOTE: It is likely that the town in which your
maternal grandparents lived was Michaliskis (Michalishok). Please
respond privately to this message.
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Vilnius and Utena ancest0rs: you may be the missing puzzle piece #lithuania

lynnchait@...
 

My sister, Simon Chaitowitz, has dedicated her life to public health
issues. She is a kind and generous spirit. She is 53 years old and
contracted an acute disease of her bone marrow (myelodysplastic syndrome)
resulting >from the chemotherapy she received in connection with breast
cancer treatment two years ago. On a personal level, she is my only
sibling and the first great love of my life. Her many friends, her
husband, and my 8 year old son need her to overcome this disease.
Her only chance of survival is a successful bone marrow transplant.
I was not a match. There were no matches in the national or worldwide
bone marrow registries. In the absence of a match, her doctors have
settled on an alternative bone marrow treatment -- a cord blood
transplant, using stem cells >from umbilical cords -- but this is
experimental and not preferable. Because Simon is so sick, she is
receiving chemotherapy in preparation for the cord blood transplant.
While we wait over the next 20 or so days, we are desparately looking
for Simon's miracle match.

The chances of finding such a match are better among family members,
but we have very few of those. Thus, Simon's best chance of finding a
genetically matched bone marrow lies with those of Jewish ethnic
ancestry, >from the area in and around Lithuania. Our maternal
grandparents were >from a small town (possible phonetic spelling:
Machelishkiai) outside Vilnius. Our paternal grandparents were >from
Utena, Lithuana.

Because time is very short, we need people to get tested on an
expedited basis, and this can only be done through a private bone
marrow testing agency.

If someone is interested in getting testing, he/she should contact
me immediately so that I can provide details.
My email address is Lynnchait@....
Thank you, Dina Chaitowitz

MODERATOR'S NOTE: It is likely that the town in which your
maternal grandparents lived was Michaliskis (Michalishok). Please
respond privately to this message.
Jewish community archives #romania

Sorin Goldenberg <SorinG@...>
 

Hi,

Fortunately for me, I am focused in one place in Romania - Botosani. It
was one of the biggest communities there - about 10000 ppl. Before WWII.


Currently - I am aware of two sources only: The Romanian archives,
containing civil state registration >from 1865 - 1906, 1906 onwards at
the city hall.
The list of those burried at Botosani jewish cemetery, >from 1906
onwards, held by the jewish community.

My question are there any more sources ? Are there any jewish ones ?=20

Reading an article about Botosani at www.romanianjewish.org (Romanian
Jewish community site) I've found this sentence:

"Arhiva documentelor Comunitatii Israelite din Botosani, fondata in anul
1540", published with the money offered by Iosef Freifeld.=20

So there is a book that was published containing community documents.
Where can such a book be found ??? It may shed some light if they held
any records relevant to genealogical research. And where are the
community documents now ? I am not aware of traumatic happenings in
Botosani during WWII.=20
=20
=20

Sorin Goldenberg,
Israel
Romania SIG #Romania Jewish community archives #romania

Sorin Goldenberg <SorinG@...>
 

Hi,

Fortunately for me, I am focused in one place in Romania - Botosani. It
was one of the biggest communities there - about 10000 ppl. Before WWII.


Currently - I am aware of two sources only: The Romanian archives,
containing civil state registration >from 1865 - 1906, 1906 onwards at
the city hall.
The list of those burried at Botosani jewish cemetery, >from 1906
onwards, held by the jewish community.

My question are there any more sources ? Are there any jewish ones ?=20

Reading an article about Botosani at www.romanianjewish.org (Romanian
Jewish community site) I've found this sentence:

"Arhiva documentelor Comunitatii Israelite din Botosani, fondata in anul
1540", published with the money offered by Iosef Freifeld.=20

So there is a book that was published containing community documents.
Where can such a book be found ??? It may shed some light if they held
any records relevant to genealogical research. And where are the
community documents now ? I am not aware of traumatic happenings in
Botosani during WWII.=20
=20
=20

Sorin Goldenberg,
Israel
Amy's research including mention of the Yelin family in Israel #belarus

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

Amy's website on Ruzhany was taken over by me and expanded.
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Ruzhany
I also set up a distribution list for notices when the website is updated.
It is open for contibutions and now also includes material on Kossovo.
Rose Feldman
Belarus SIG #Belarus Amy's research including mention of the Yelin family in Israel #belarus

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

Amy's website on Ruzhany was taken over by me and expanded.
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Ruzhany
I also set up a distribution list for notices when the website is updated.
It is open for contibutions and now also includes material on Kossovo.
Rose Feldman
Translate this Slovakian expression ? #general

Mima <mimaof4@...>
 

In a birth record >from the State Archives in Presov, the following was
written 3 days after the birth of a little girl: "den udelenia mena".
Can anyone tell me what that means? I had assumed it was in Hungarian
because the family lived in Humenne, which was in Hungary at that time
but a Hungarian speaker didn't recognize the words. I haven't been
able to find a translation on the Internet .
Thank you so much for your help.

Elizabeth S. Lourie
Washington, DC
DUSHKIN/DUSHKES---Kaunas, Vilijampole, Lithuania
ROGOV---Lithuania
ROSENBLUTH/LIEBERMAN---Humenne, Slovakia
SCHWARTZ/EHRENREICH---Uzhgorod, Ukraine
LOURIE/LURIE---Varenna (Oran), Lithuania
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Translate this Slovakian expression ? #general

Mima <mimaof4@...>
 

In a birth record >from the State Archives in Presov, the following was
written 3 days after the birth of a little girl: "den udelenia mena".
Can anyone tell me what that means? I had assumed it was in Hungarian
because the family lived in Humenne, which was in Hungary at that time
but a Hungarian speaker didn't recognize the words. I haven't been
able to find a translation on the Internet .
Thank you so much for your help.

Elizabeth S. Lourie
Washington, DC
DUSHKIN/DUSHKES---Kaunas, Vilijampole, Lithuania
ROGOV---Lithuania
ROSENBLUTH/LIEBERMAN---Humenne, Slovakia
SCHWARTZ/EHRENREICH---Uzhgorod, Ukraine
LOURIE/LURIE---Varenna (Oran), Lithuania
Remembering those lost in the Holocaust #general

David Kravitz
 

It may well be that Israelis choose the tenth of Teveth to say kaddish for a
holocaust victim with an unknown death date. In England, however, this fast
hardly rates and the yarzheit date is the more sensible Yom Kippur.

David Kravitz
Netanya, Israel
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Remembering those lost in the Holocaust #general

David Kravitz
 

It may well be that Israelis choose the tenth of Teveth to say kaddish for a
holocaust victim with an unknown death date. In England, however, this fast
hardly rates and the yarzheit date is the more sensible Yom Kippur.

David Kravitz
Netanya, Israel
New Year's Resolutions 2006: 1 {Quotes } and 2 {JGFF} #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Resolution 1: Adelle Weintraub Gloger of Cleveland,
Ohio wrote:
"Celia probably does not know that some people
subscribe to this list via soc.genealogy.jewish and
not directly via JewishGen."

This comment was made by Adelle because I had referred
to a recent "out of context" misquote. Adelle does not
realise she has reinforced *exactly* the point I was
making. In the latest round my surname was
***mispelt*** as Malle in Adelle's re-quote!
When one employs quotes one has to be very careful;
mistakes in quotes can perpetuate errors. Every quote,
its source and the spelling in the quote must be
checked and cross-checked before submitting, but
Adelle you are forgiven.

But this is not my main interest - which is family
sagas/history and genealogy and here I would like to
suggest another important New Year's Resolution re the
Jewishgen Family Finder {JGFF}.

Resolution 2: If you have entered names into the JGFF
and someone replies *please do respond*. In the last
weeks I have sent out 3-4 mails to the JGFF and have
had no replies. Am I alone in this? It is so
frustrating and rather pointless having this wonderul
resource and not using it properly.

The last one I sent out quite a long time ago was to
RUSTERHOLTZ Zurich Switzerland {entry of 6 Mar 2005}
Researcher #151241
I had just done some fascinating work with this family
name in Bohemia. I had thought that the researcher
#151241 might be interested and we could develop the
saga.

It is possible that these JGFF mails and others from
unknown, but genuine, correspondents end up in the
bulk mail/spam box. If you happen to have a family
name like Male, it is even more likely! So please do
look at your spam box before emptying.

Now back to the real work and I do hope to get replies
from the JGFF in 2006 - I always reply immediately!
Celia Male [U.K.]
Looking for Wiltezeck, Russia #general

eatwelbwel@aol.com <eatwelbwel@...>
 

My great great uncle stated in his citizenship papers that he was born
in 1860 in Wiltezeck, Russia. No modern researcher has ever been able
to find that town. Other ancestors >from that generation were born in
what is now Varaklani, Latvia but was then Varklan in the Vitebsk
Gubernia. If Wiltezeck didn't exist, can we surmise that it's a garbled
form of Vitebsk?

Sandra Fishman
Reading, PA
Town location, modern name query #general

Rochelle Kaplan <ro@...>
 

I learned that some relatives are >from Jaslowice, in Galicia,
Austria-Poland in 1904. Same folks also said they were >from Boucacz.

I wish to know current name(s) of town and what country they are in. Any
help appreciated.

Thanks.

Rochelle Kaplan
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New Year's Resolutions 2006: 1 {Quotes } and 2 {JGFF} #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Resolution 1: Adelle Weintraub Gloger of Cleveland,
Ohio wrote:
"Celia probably does not know that some people
subscribe to this list via soc.genealogy.jewish and
not directly via JewishGen."

This comment was made by Adelle because I had referred
to a recent "out of context" misquote. Adelle does not
realise she has reinforced *exactly* the point I was
making. In the latest round my surname was
***mispelt*** as Malle in Adelle's re-quote!
When one employs quotes one has to be very careful;
mistakes in quotes can perpetuate errors. Every quote,
its source and the spelling in the quote must be
checked and cross-checked before submitting, but
Adelle you are forgiven.

But this is not my main interest - which is family
sagas/history and genealogy and here I would like to
suggest another important New Year's Resolution re the
Jewishgen Family Finder {JGFF}.

Resolution 2: If you have entered names into the JGFF
and someone replies *please do respond*. In the last
weeks I have sent out 3-4 mails to the JGFF and have
had no replies. Am I alone in this? It is so
frustrating and rather pointless having this wonderul
resource and not using it properly.

The last one I sent out quite a long time ago was to
RUSTERHOLTZ Zurich Switzerland {entry of 6 Mar 2005}
Researcher #151241
I had just done some fascinating work with this family
name in Bohemia. I had thought that the researcher
#151241 might be interested and we could develop the
saga.

It is possible that these JGFF mails and others from
unknown, but genuine, correspondents end up in the
bulk mail/spam box. If you happen to have a family
name like Male, it is even more likely! So please do
look at your spam box before emptying.

Now back to the real work and I do hope to get replies
from the JGFF in 2006 - I always reply immediately!
Celia Male [U.K.]
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for Wiltezeck, Russia #general

eatwelbwel@aol.com <eatwelbwel@...>
 

My great great uncle stated in his citizenship papers that he was born
in 1860 in Wiltezeck, Russia. No modern researcher has ever been able
to find that town. Other ancestors >from that generation were born in
what is now Varaklani, Latvia but was then Varklan in the Vitebsk
Gubernia. If Wiltezeck didn't exist, can we surmise that it's a garbled
form of Vitebsk?

Sandra Fishman
Reading, PA
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Town location, modern name query #general

Rochelle Kaplan <ro@...>
 

I learned that some relatives are >from Jaslowice, in Galicia,
Austria-Poland in 1904. Same folks also said they were >from Boucacz.

I wish to know current name(s) of town and what country they are in. Any
help appreciated.

Thanks.

Rochelle Kaplan
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