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Re: Searching relatives: SEGAL/ROSEN #general

AvrmGeller@...
 

Using California Vital Records (Death) I found Alexander SEGAL d.
10/17/1938 age 27, spouse initial J. Using Historical LA Times I found
1/23/1934 intent of marriage announcement of Alexander SEGAL 22 to
Jeanette GOLD 23. Using California Vital Records (Birth) for surname
SEGAL mother's maiden name GOLD I found two listings that seemed to
match info you provided: Marcella Suzanne SEGAL b. 11/2/1934 and Rose
Ann SEGAL b. 6/27/1938.
Using the Stephen Morse search engine Birth Years and Related Persons,
I put in the birth date and first name and state of California and the
most productive yield was Roseann SALDINGER. I tested that in
California Vital Records (marriage) and found Rose A. SEGAL married
Neil SALDINGER on 9/3/1956. Using FindUSA, I located Rose SALDINGER at
XXXX Quedo Dr, Woodland Hills, CA but the phone XXX-XXX-XXXX was
protected and unlisted. I located (superpages.com) Neil SALDINGER,
apparently remarried to Effie, with listed numbers: XXX-XXX-XXXX and
XXX-XXX-XXXX. I also searched Jeanette (GOLD) (SEGAL) ROSEN born c.
1910 in death records, with the most likely being Jeannette ROSEN b.
12/13/1910 (NY), d. 12/30/1991 Riverside county, CA.

Avrum Geller
New York, NY

MODERATOR NOTE: Researches are urged to do their own research. Avrum's
message demonstrates how to conduct a search.

I am looking for family related to the late Alex SEGAL, who passed away as a
young man around the age of 28 (I believe sometime in the 1940's or even
late 30's) in California.
Alex's wife was named Jen, and, when she remarried, her last name became
ROSEN. The two daughters were Roseann (who we called "Punkie") and Susan
("Suzie"). As I say, I have no idea where they are now.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Searching relatives: SEGAL/ROSEN #general

AvrmGeller@...
 

Using California Vital Records (Death) I found Alexander SEGAL d.
10/17/1938 age 27, spouse initial J. Using Historical LA Times I found
1/23/1934 intent of marriage announcement of Alexander SEGAL 22 to
Jeanette GOLD 23. Using California Vital Records (Birth) for surname
SEGAL mother's maiden name GOLD I found two listings that seemed to
match info you provided: Marcella Suzanne SEGAL b. 11/2/1934 and Rose
Ann SEGAL b. 6/27/1938.
Using the Stephen Morse search engine Birth Years and Related Persons,
I put in the birth date and first name and state of California and the
most productive yield was Roseann SALDINGER. I tested that in
California Vital Records (marriage) and found Rose A. SEGAL married
Neil SALDINGER on 9/3/1956. Using FindUSA, I located Rose SALDINGER at
XXXX Quedo Dr, Woodland Hills, CA but the phone XXX-XXX-XXXX was
protected and unlisted. I located (superpages.com) Neil SALDINGER,
apparently remarried to Effie, with listed numbers: XXX-XXX-XXXX and
XXX-XXX-XXXX. I also searched Jeanette (GOLD) (SEGAL) ROSEN born c.
1910 in death records, with the most likely being Jeannette ROSEN b.
12/13/1910 (NY), d. 12/30/1991 Riverside county, CA.

Avrum Geller
New York, NY

MODERATOR NOTE: Researches are urged to do their own research. Avrum's
message demonstrates how to conduct a search.

I am looking for family related to the late Alex SEGAL, who passed away as a
young man around the age of 28 (I believe sometime in the 1940's or even
late 30's) in California.
Alex's wife was named Jen, and, when she remarried, her last name became
ROSEN. The two daughters were Roseann (who we called "Punkie") and Susan
("Suzie"). As I say, I have no idea where they are now.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.


Milanowski #general

E
 

Information has come to me that the family name was MILANOWSKI. Three
of the children were Rachel (LEVINE) , Sam and Fannie (my great
grandmother), aka Fraidka (PRICE). They livedin Lomza gubernia

The father and a brother who came here and then returned were
blacksmiths. The last brother was killed in the Shoah

Rabbi Ed Goldstein, Woodmere NY

MILANOWSKI/MILLER, PRICE


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Milanowski #general

E
 

Information has come to me that the family name was MILANOWSKI. Three
of the children were Rachel (LEVINE) , Sam and Fannie (my great
grandmother), aka Fraidka (PRICE). They livedin Lomza gubernia

The father and a brother who came here and then returned were
blacksmiths. The last brother was killed in the Shoah

Rabbi Ed Goldstein, Woodmere NY

MILANOWSKI/MILLER, PRICE


JAFFE Family--Rawitsch, Posen Province Branch and DNA Testing #general

Jim Bennett <bennett@...>
 

I am a descendant of a family of JAFFE's who lived for generations
in Rawitsch, then Posen Provice, Prussia [now Rawicz, W. Poland]. The
earliest known "founder" was Moshe Jaffe [b.~1710 -- d. ~1785], sons Shmuel
Zanwill and Avraham, and grandsons and great-grandsons with the names: Zvi
Hirsch, Meir, Yosef, Loeb, Shimon, Yaakov, Shimshon, etc.

After more than twenty years of research, the documentary evidence
is inconclusive whether this branch traces its decent >from Rabbi Mordechai
Jaffe of Prague (1530-1612) and his uncle Rabbi Moses Jaffe, who traced
their ancestry to Samuel ben Elhanan, great-grandson of Rashi (Rabbi Shlomo
Yitzhaki, 1040-1105), and >from the latter to King David. Rabbi Mordechai's
lifework was the compilation of the Levush (Apparel), a major codification
of rabbinical law, and he was known as the "Ba'al haLevushim" or
"HaLevush".

Personal name repetition patterns are often strong indicators of
descent, especially if the ancestor was an illustrious Rabbi. But in my
branch we do not find any Mordechai's, just a few 19th century Max's,
Moritz's and Martin's--whose Hebrew names sometimes were Mordechai. This is
certainly not definitive proof.

There are other Jaffe families, including the descendants of Wolf
Jaffe and his son Rabbi Menachem Mendel Moses Jaffe of Krotoschin, Posen
Province who suspect, but cannot prove their descent >from the "Levush".
Other families lived in Prussia, Poland, Lithuania and Belarus.

So my proposal is:

1) Identify a few "pure" male Jaffe's who are "proven" descendants of the
"Levush" whose DNA has already been tested--or could be tested. Their
Y-Chromosome test results would serve as the standard against which others
would be compared;

2) Request direct male Jaffe's >from other "branches" to do likewise;
[Personally I cannot, because I'm a male descendant of a Jaffe female
ancestor].

3) Compare the results to see if the various sampled male Jaffe's share a
common ancestor some 14-17 generations ago;

4) Rejoice that we've linked up with our "cousins" or accept that we're just
"commoners".
[Undoubtedly some Jews adopted the Jaffe surname upon marrying a Jaffe
woman].

So with a very small effort, we various Jaffe's can answer
centuries-old questions about our heritage.

The testing can be done by Family Tree DNA, which is approved by
JewishGen.
www.familytreedna.com

I invite volunteers to step forward. Please contact me.

Jim Bennett
Haifa, Israel

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately. To learn more about DNA testing please
refer to JewishGen's "Genealogy by Genetics" page, located at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/dna/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JAFFE Family--Rawitsch, Posen Province Branch and DNA Testing #general

Jim Bennett <bennett@...>
 

I am a descendant of a family of JAFFE's who lived for generations
in Rawitsch, then Posen Provice, Prussia [now Rawicz, W. Poland]. The
earliest known "founder" was Moshe Jaffe [b.~1710 -- d. ~1785], sons Shmuel
Zanwill and Avraham, and grandsons and great-grandsons with the names: Zvi
Hirsch, Meir, Yosef, Loeb, Shimon, Yaakov, Shimshon, etc.

After more than twenty years of research, the documentary evidence
is inconclusive whether this branch traces its decent >from Rabbi Mordechai
Jaffe of Prague (1530-1612) and his uncle Rabbi Moses Jaffe, who traced
their ancestry to Samuel ben Elhanan, great-grandson of Rashi (Rabbi Shlomo
Yitzhaki, 1040-1105), and >from the latter to King David. Rabbi Mordechai's
lifework was the compilation of the Levush (Apparel), a major codification
of rabbinical law, and he was known as the "Ba'al haLevushim" or
"HaLevush".

Personal name repetition patterns are often strong indicators of
descent, especially if the ancestor was an illustrious Rabbi. But in my
branch we do not find any Mordechai's, just a few 19th century Max's,
Moritz's and Martin's--whose Hebrew names sometimes were Mordechai. This is
certainly not definitive proof.

There are other Jaffe families, including the descendants of Wolf
Jaffe and his son Rabbi Menachem Mendel Moses Jaffe of Krotoschin, Posen
Province who suspect, but cannot prove their descent >from the "Levush".
Other families lived in Prussia, Poland, Lithuania and Belarus.

So my proposal is:

1) Identify a few "pure" male Jaffe's who are "proven" descendants of the
"Levush" whose DNA has already been tested--or could be tested. Their
Y-Chromosome test results would serve as the standard against which others
would be compared;

2) Request direct male Jaffe's >from other "branches" to do likewise;
[Personally I cannot, because I'm a male descendant of a Jaffe female
ancestor].

3) Compare the results to see if the various sampled male Jaffe's share a
common ancestor some 14-17 generations ago;

4) Rejoice that we've linked up with our "cousins" or accept that we're just
"commoners".
[Undoubtedly some Jews adopted the Jaffe surname upon marrying a Jaffe
woman].

So with a very small effort, we various Jaffe's can answer
centuries-old questions about our heritage.

The testing can be done by Family Tree DNA, which is approved by
JewishGen.
www.familytreedna.com

I invite volunteers to step forward. Please contact me.

Jim Bennett
Haifa, Israel

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately. To learn more about DNA testing please
refer to JewishGen's "Genealogy by Genetics" page, located at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/dna/


Phonograph Record Restoration #general

Dov & Varda Epstein <yknow@...>
 

I have a phonograph record, a 78, that my parents made in one of those
little booths that were once popular, while they were vacationing at
Grossingers.

This is the only recording that exists of my late father's voice. My married
daughter played it for her husband, and horrors of horrors, the needle
ripped the record >from one edge, through to the center.

I'm wondering if anyone else has had this experience and has successfully
restored such an important family legacy?

Please reply privately.
Varda Epstein
Efrat,
Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Phonograph Record Restoration #general

Dov & Varda Epstein <yknow@...>
 

I have a phonograph record, a 78, that my parents made in one of those
little booths that were once popular, while they were vacationing at
Grossingers.

This is the only recording that exists of my late father's voice. My married
daughter played it for her husband, and horrors of horrors, the needle
ripped the record >from one edge, through to the center.

I'm wondering if anyone else has had this experience and has successfully
restored such an important family legacy?

Please reply privately.
Varda Epstein
Efrat,
Israel


Re: Rabbi Meir Simcha HaKohen #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

< LightDe@aol.com > wrote:

I am looking for descendants of Rabbi Meir Simcha HaKohen. We have been
told that my husband, Michael NASATIR, may be related. Thank you.
See this appreciation of the Rabbi (1843-1926)
http://www.aje.org.uk/daf/16-40.htm.

He was also known as the Ohr Sameach on account of one of the books he
wrote.

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Rabbi Meir Simcha HaKohen #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

< LightDe@aol.com > wrote:

I am looking for descendants of Rabbi Meir Simcha HaKohen. We have been
told that my husband, Michael NASATIR, may be related. Thank you.
See this appreciation of the Rabbi (1843-1926)
http://www.aje.org.uk/daf/16-40.htm.

He was also known as the Ohr Sameach on account of one of the books he
wrote.

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)


Re: Travel to Ellis Island #general

Joan Rosen <jgrosen@...>
 

It is not more difficult in the winter than any other time. Check the
Circle Line Tours online (via Google). There you will find information
about the ferry to the island, schedule, prices, etc. Keep in mind that the
ferry stops at both the Statue of Liberty (Liberty Island) and Ellis Island,
on each trip. The ride itself does not take very long--15 minutes or so,
but there is often a long line waiting to get the tickets, so be prepared to
be patient!

For information about the island itself, try their own web site.

Joan
~~~
Joan Rosen
Elkins Park, outside Philadelphia
jgrosen@verizon.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Travel to Ellis Island #general

Joan Rosen <jgrosen@...>
 

It is not more difficult in the winter than any other time. Check the
Circle Line Tours online (via Google). There you will find information
about the ferry to the island, schedule, prices, etc. Keep in mind that the
ferry stops at both the Statue of Liberty (Liberty Island) and Ellis Island,
on each trip. The ride itself does not take very long--15 minutes or so,
but there is often a long line waiting to get the tickets, so be prepared to
be patient!

For information about the island itself, try their own web site.

Joan
~~~
Joan Rosen
Elkins Park, outside Philadelphia
jgrosen@verizon.net


Orgeyev (Orhei), Moldova Yizkor Book #general

Terry Lasky <talasky@...>
 

I am happy to announce that an additional 13 chapters (42 pages) of the
Orhei (Orgeyev), Moldova Yizkor book have now been translated and put on
Jewishgen. This includes Chapters 8-14, 19 and 129-133.

It will only take about $350 more (plus what I have already collected
and contributed) to finish the entire book. This is the last time that
I will be asking for donations. Please make a donation at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=23

and be sure to mark it for the Orhei, Moldova Yizkor book. No more
work will be done on the book until I have collected enough money.
Please be generous this final time so that we can have a completed
Yizkor book. Please email me privately to let me know the amount of
your donation so that I will know if I have collected enough to complete
the book (talasky@comcast.net).

Thank You

Terry Lasky
Colorado, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Orgeyev (Orhei), Moldova Yizkor Book #general

Terry Lasky <talasky@...>
 

I am happy to announce that an additional 13 chapters (42 pages) of the
Orhei (Orgeyev), Moldova Yizkor book have now been translated and put on
Jewishgen. This includes Chapters 8-14, 19 and 129-133.

It will only take about $350 more (plus what I have already collected
and contributed) to finish the entire book. This is the last time that
I will be asking for donations. Please make a donation at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=23

and be sure to mark it for the Orhei, Moldova Yizkor book. No more
work will be done on the book until I have collected enough money.
Please be generous this final time so that we can have a completed
Yizkor book. Please email me privately to let me know the amount of
your donation so that I will know if I have collected enough to complete
the book (talasky@comcast.net).

Thank You

Terry Lasky
Colorado, USA


research needed in England #general

philafrum
 

Genners,

I would appreciate some research help >from a genner in England. I'm trying
to find out if there's any information about Jewish involvement in the glass
industry there during the late 19th-early 20th centuries. I learned earlier
tonight that a relative, whose surname may have been MANDELSTEIN or
MENDELSTEIN, was very successful in that business.

Can someone help me? Please reply privately. Many thanks.

Evan Fishman
New Jersey, USA
ebf2001@comcast.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen research needed in England #general

philafrum
 

Genners,

I would appreciate some research help >from a genner in England. I'm trying
to find out if there's any information about Jewish involvement in the glass
industry there during the late 19th-early 20th centuries. I learned earlier
tonight that a relative, whose surname may have been MANDELSTEIN or
MENDELSTEIN, was very successful in that business.

Can someone help me? Please reply privately. Many thanks.

Evan Fishman
New Jersey, USA
ebf2001@comcast.net


Re: Name Yevno (Evno) -- could it be Yonah? #general

Marlene Bishow
 

Hi Cousins:

Evno is a name that is prevelant in my GANTMAN family tree. In fact, I have
documentation of an Evno GANTMAN, born in about 1781. The family is >from
Smilovichi, Belarus. In the Ashkenazic tradition, this man's grandson was
named Evno in 1819 after his death in 1812. The documentation is contained
in the Revizskaya Skazka of petty bourgeoisies in the shtetl of Smilovichi
of 1850 (Fund 333, list 9, file 1009, pp. 170-171). My grandfather, born in
1892, was also Evno, per his birth certificate (in my posession) and on it,
it is indicated that his father was Wolf Evanov - Wolf the son of Evno.I can
document 5 men with this name between 1781 and 1892.

I initiated a discussion on this name in 2002 on this discussion group
(available >from the archive). Prior to that discussion, the name Evno was
not in the GNDB. I sent a copy of my gf's birth certificate to Dr. Esterson
and the name was added. One should note however that the entry indicates
that Evno is a Yiddish name. I was told then that the name was a variant of
Jonah. This latest discussion has raised some questions regarding the origin
of the name. Among these is - is Evno Hebrew, Yiddish or Russian?

I also point to an entry in the Wikipedia, for a Yevno Azef (1869-1918). The
entry indicates that Yevno is also transliterated as Evno. He was born in
Lykovo.

Marlene Bishow
Rockville, MD
VP - JGSGW
Searching:
GANTMAN: Smilovichi, Koidanovo, and Novyy Sverzhen BEL
SINGER, ZINGER: Koidanovo, BEL
SHOMER, SOHMER, SOMMERS, SOMERS, SUMMERS: Kamajai, LITH
DEUTSCHER & RSODEUTSCHER: Rozniatow & Zuravno GAL. UKR and Krakow & Tarnow,
POL and Duisberg, GER


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Name Yevno (Evno) -- could it be Yonah? #general

Marlene Bishow
 

Hi Cousins:

Evno is a name that is prevelant in my GANTMAN family tree. In fact, I have
documentation of an Evno GANTMAN, born in about 1781. The family is >from
Smilovichi, Belarus. In the Ashkenazic tradition, this man's grandson was
named Evno in 1819 after his death in 1812. The documentation is contained
in the Revizskaya Skazka of petty bourgeoisies in the shtetl of Smilovichi
of 1850 (Fund 333, list 9, file 1009, pp. 170-171). My grandfather, born in
1892, was also Evno, per his birth certificate (in my posession) and on it,
it is indicated that his father was Wolf Evanov - Wolf the son of Evno.I can
document 5 men with this name between 1781 and 1892.

I initiated a discussion on this name in 2002 on this discussion group
(available >from the archive). Prior to that discussion, the name Evno was
not in the GNDB. I sent a copy of my gf's birth certificate to Dr. Esterson
and the name was added. One should note however that the entry indicates
that Evno is a Yiddish name. I was told then that the name was a variant of
Jonah. This latest discussion has raised some questions regarding the origin
of the name. Among these is - is Evno Hebrew, Yiddish or Russian?

I also point to an entry in the Wikipedia, for a Yevno Azef (1869-1918). The
entry indicates that Yevno is also transliterated as Evno. He was born in
Lykovo.

Marlene Bishow
Rockville, MD
VP - JGSGW
Searching:
GANTMAN: Smilovichi, Koidanovo, and Novyy Sverzhen BEL
SINGER, ZINGER: Koidanovo, BEL
SHOMER, SOHMER, SOMMERS, SOMERS, SUMMERS: Kamajai, LITH
DEUTSCHER & RSODEUTSCHER: Rozniatow & Zuravno GAL. UKR and Krakow & Tarnow,
POL and Duisberg, GER


Re: General information on doing a building history in New York City #general

mhlcswc2@...
 

I have attempted without success to find information regarding a building
that apparently is no longer in existence, 32 Osborn Street in Brooklyn. The
sites below don't have information regarding non-existing buildings. Any help
would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Marcia G. Hoffman
Baltimore, MD
ODENTZ,ORDINTZ,ODINHS - Vilna area
GRINBERG,GREENBERG,MALEWITZ,ROSENSWEIG - Lomza area
FRIEDMAN - Austria

General information on doing a building history in New York City:
from 1995, mostly paper sources:
http://www.nysoclib.org/building_history.html

A recently updated version with online sources:
http://tinyurl.com/8bo3d>>>


the cemetery in cluj #romania

weher <weher@...>
 

hi

My grent grandmotheher died 1921in was buried in the cemetery in cluj (Cluj is known in Hungarian as Kolozsvar
and in German as Klausenburg.)
Im serching for her Burial and tombstone
If anyone could help me wite any information whose taking care of the place or has
a list of the tombstone or pictures please contact me

Thank you
h. wiss
new york