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Help with understanding Russian on a passport #general

Lisa
 

Is there someone in the group who would be willing to look at and help me to
understand what is written in Russian on an old passport? I am trying to
follow the trail of how the holder of this passport ended up in England >from
Russia, but I am unable to read most of it.
Many thanks in advance.

Lisa Brahin Weinblatt
New Jersey, USA
Redball62@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help with understanding Russian on a passport #general

Lisa
 

Is there someone in the group who would be willing to look at and help me to
understand what is written in Russian on an old passport? I am trying to
follow the trail of how the holder of this passport ended up in England >from
Russia, but I am unable to read most of it.
Many thanks in advance.

Lisa Brahin Weinblatt
New Jersey, USA
Redball62@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


TURNSHEIN _ TONCHIN #general

Aubrey Jacobus <zen28027@...>
 

I have cousins brother and sister who married a TONCHIN in London
and a TURNSHEIN in Berlin before WW2,

Can this be coincidence ?

Any information on these families gratefully received

Aubrey Jacobus
London.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen TURNSHEIN _ TONCHIN #general

Aubrey Jacobus <zen28027@...>
 

I have cousins brother and sister who married a TONCHIN in London
and a TURNSHEIN in Berlin before WW2,

Can this be coincidence ?

Any information on these families gratefully received

Aubrey Jacobus
London.


Searching: KLIANSKI/Lynics #general

Rony <golanron@...>
 

Hi,

For a long time I am searching for clues on the whereabouts of my ggggfather.
According to family stories his name was Ya'akov KLIANSKI (KLIANSKY), and he
lived in Lynics. One source says that Lynics is located near Ungvar.

I could not identify the location using the JG ShtetlSeeker
(http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/) nor was I successful in using the
JewishGen family finder (http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/)/ In fact the JGFF
lists one researcher for Lynics and he is researching KLEONSKY. Sounds
promising, but I contacted the researcher, and we could not establish any
link between his KLEONSKYs and my KLIANSKYs.

My questions are:

Where is Lynics ?
Which archives have the records for Lynics ?
Have you ever heard this surname ?

I should also say that Yakov KLIANSKY changed his surname to FRIEDMAN.

Thank you,

Rony Golan
Ramat Hasharon, Israel

Researching:
EISDORFER - Hungary
SLOMOVITS - Sighet, Akna Szlatina, Rozavlea, Stramtura - Romania
KRAMARUTSKY, KRIVOROUCHKI - Kaunas, Vandziogale, Lithuania
NEIMAN, NAJMAN - Beddo (Bedevla), Ukraine


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: KLIANSKI/Lynics #general

Rony <golanron@...>
 

Hi,

For a long time I am searching for clues on the whereabouts of my ggggfather.
According to family stories his name was Ya'akov KLIANSKI (KLIANSKY), and he
lived in Lynics. One source says that Lynics is located near Ungvar.

I could not identify the location using the JG ShtetlSeeker
(http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/) nor was I successful in using the
JewishGen family finder (http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/)/ In fact the JGFF
lists one researcher for Lynics and he is researching KLEONSKY. Sounds
promising, but I contacted the researcher, and we could not establish any
link between his KLEONSKYs and my KLIANSKYs.

My questions are:

Where is Lynics ?
Which archives have the records for Lynics ?
Have you ever heard this surname ?

I should also say that Yakov KLIANSKY changed his surname to FRIEDMAN.

Thank you,

Rony Golan
Ramat Hasharon, Israel

Researching:
EISDORFER - Hungary
SLOMOVITS - Sighet, Akna Szlatina, Rozavlea, Stramtura - Romania
KRAMARUTSKY, KRIVOROUCHKI - Kaunas, Vandziogale, Lithuania
NEIMAN, NAJMAN - Beddo (Bedevla), Ukraine


Kings County Clerk #general

Paul & Myrna Lewis <pmlewis6391@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I have a favor to ask. A friend of mine for over 60 years has finally caught
the "genealogy bug" >from me. Through [a commercial genealogy site], I was
able to find her grandfather's WWI registration, & his 1920 & 1930 census
records. But we haven't been able to find him on the Ellis Island records, even
using Stephen Morse's forms.

Using the JGSNY link, we have located his Naturalization Petition in the
Kings County Clerk's Office, Brooklyn, NY. The petition would most likely
tell us which port he came into, when, & what name he used. The problem is
my friend lives north of Boston, & I live over an hour NW of NYC, and have
physical problems that prevent me >from getting to the Clerk's Office.

I am hoping there is a kind genner that lives in Brooklyn near the State
Supreme Court of Kings County, 360 Adams St., (cross streets: Johnson, Court
& Joralemon Sts) that could go there, get the records, & send them to me.
The records are in the Clerk's Office, Room 0079. The Petition is #141 for
Meyer Shenkin, Page 81, Year 1917-1918. We would appreciate all the
documents included in the Petition “record” (Petition, Declaration and
Certificate of Arrival).

I realize that we could send for the documents. But due to the increase
demand for Naturalization records in the Kings County Clerk's Office, the
wait is approximately 4-6 months for mail requests. By then, I'm afraid my
friend will have lost her enthusiasm for genealogy.

If you are able to perform this kind deed, please reply privately by e-mail
to: pmlewis6391@.... I then can give you my address, so that you
can send the documents to me, & you will have my deep gratitude, as well as
that of my friend.

Thank you in advance.
Myrna Lewis
Suffern, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kings County Clerk #general

Paul & Myrna Lewis <pmlewis6391@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I have a favor to ask. A friend of mine for over 60 years has finally caught
the "genealogy bug" >from me. Through [a commercial genealogy site], I was
able to find her grandfather's WWI registration, & his 1920 & 1930 census
records. But we haven't been able to find him on the Ellis Island records, even
using Stephen Morse's forms.

Using the JGSNY link, we have located his Naturalization Petition in the
Kings County Clerk's Office, Brooklyn, NY. The petition would most likely
tell us which port he came into, when, & what name he used. The problem is
my friend lives north of Boston, & I live over an hour NW of NYC, and have
physical problems that prevent me >from getting to the Clerk's Office.

I am hoping there is a kind genner that lives in Brooklyn near the State
Supreme Court of Kings County, 360 Adams St., (cross streets: Johnson, Court
& Joralemon Sts) that could go there, get the records, & send them to me.
The records are in the Clerk's Office, Room 0079. The Petition is #141 for
Meyer Shenkin, Page 81, Year 1917-1918. We would appreciate all the
documents included in the Petition “record” (Petition, Declaration and
Certificate of Arrival).

I realize that we could send for the documents. But due to the increase
demand for Naturalization records in the Kings County Clerk's Office, the
wait is approximately 4-6 months for mail requests. By then, I'm afraid my
friend will have lost her enthusiasm for genealogy.

If you are able to perform this kind deed, please reply privately by e-mail
to: pmlewis6391@.... I then can give you my address, so that you
can send the documents to me, & you will have my deep gratitude, as well as
that of my friend.

Thank you in advance.
Myrna Lewis
Suffern, NY


mystery place possibly near Gomel #belarus

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

Is anyone aware of place near Gomel that might be Germanized as Bresior?

Thanks very much.

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@...
near Washington, D.C.


Belarus SIG #Belarus mystery place possibly near Gomel #belarus

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

Is anyone aware of place near Gomel that might be Germanized as Bresior?

Thanks very much.

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@...
near Washington, D.C.


Seeking Yad Vashem submitter Khaim BERG from Israel #belarus

Lee Nydell <lnydell@...>
 

Trying to locate a Khaim BERG, who lives in Israel and is a Shoah survivor.
On May 27, 1999 he submitted information to Yad Vashem about members of his family
who perished in 1942 in Majdanek. His family name might have been spelled BARG.
Some members of his family (grandfather Gershl grandmother Malke
father Leizer mother Etl and siblings Sheike, Sroil and Marsha) were born in
Vysokoye, Poland (now Belarus). The Shtetl of Vysokoye was in Western Belarus,
near to Brest, Belarus.

Lee Nydell
Irvine, California, United States lnydell@... Researching =
- NADEL, NUDEL, NIEDLE >from Russia, Belarus and Poland


Belarus SIG #Belarus Seeking Yad Vashem submitter Khaim BERG from Israel #belarus

Lee Nydell <lnydell@...>
 

Trying to locate a Khaim BERG, who lives in Israel and is a Shoah survivor.
On May 27, 1999 he submitted information to Yad Vashem about members of his family
who perished in 1942 in Majdanek. His family name might have been spelled BARG.
Some members of his family (grandfather Gershl grandmother Malke
father Leizer mother Etl and siblings Sheike, Sroil and Marsha) were born in
Vysokoye, Poland (now Belarus). The Shtetl of Vysokoye was in Western Belarus,
near to Brest, Belarus.

Lee Nydell
Irvine, California, United States lnydell@... Researching =
- NADEL, NUDEL, NIEDLE >from Russia, Belarus and Poland


MaHaRal of Prague #rabbinic

Avraham <avrofek@...>
 

Can anyone please tell me the genealogy of the MaHaRal of Prague?
Ancestors and decendants. Is there a connection with the Lubavitcher
dynasty?

Any help will be appreciated.

Shabat Shalom.

Avraham Ofek
Netanya


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic MaHaRal of Prague #rabbinic

Avraham <avrofek@...>
 

Can anyone please tell me the genealogy of the MaHaRal of Prague?
Ancestors and decendants. Is there a connection with the Lubavitcher
dynasty?

Any help will be appreciated.

Shabat Shalom.

Avraham Ofek
Netanya


Re: DNA Mapping - JAFFE Family #rabbinic

Bill Yoffee <kidsbks@...>
 

RAVSIG Digest for Wednesday, February 01, 2006.

1. DNA Mapping - JAFFE Family, Rawitsch-Posen Branch
2. JFFE Family - Rashi Descent
3. Re: JAFFE Family - Rashi Descent
4. Yizkor Book Project Report for January 2006
This in regard to the three items in the Feb. 1 Digest on the
subject of the Jaffe family surname. I have located 19th Century
documents about my family using the spelling Jaffe and Iofe (which
I understand is the correct transliteration >from the Cyrillic
alphabet). Obviously, it is a variation of the Hebrew Yud Peh Heh
meaning pretty.

My family originated in Pakroy (Pakroujis), Kovna Gubernia (now
Lithuania), and I have been able to document it to the early 19th
Century. My great grandfather, Yisroel Kopel IOFE, was known to be a
Talmudic scholar. His father, Judah HaLevi IOFE traces back five
male generations >from me. There is also a tradition in the family
that we are Levites. Descent >from Rashi has been alleged but never
proved.

I wholeheartedly agree that all males with surnames JAFFE, JAFFEE,
JOFFE, JOFFEE, YOFFE, YOFFEE, IOFE, IOFFE, YAFFE, YAFFEE, YAPHA,
etc. should have at least a 12 marker Y-DNA test. Personally, just
last week, I have ordered a 37 marker Y-DNA test and an mDNA test
to trace my maternal line >from info@.... I have also
contacted a representative of the currently moribund Jaffe Family
Association (centered in Israel) to suggest that the Association
encourage all males with whom it has contact to do the same. Family
Tree DNA has facility for establishing a surname group.

William M (Bill) Yoffee
JewishGen Researcher #2074
SilverSpring MD USA


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: DNA Mapping - JAFFE Family #rabbinic

Bill Yoffee <kidsbks@...>
 

RAVSIG Digest for Wednesday, February 01, 2006.

1. DNA Mapping - JAFFE Family, Rawitsch-Posen Branch
2. JFFE Family - Rashi Descent
3. Re: JAFFE Family - Rashi Descent
4. Yizkor Book Project Report for January 2006
This in regard to the three items in the Feb. 1 Digest on the
subject of the Jaffe family surname. I have located 19th Century
documents about my family using the spelling Jaffe and Iofe (which
I understand is the correct transliteration >from the Cyrillic
alphabet). Obviously, it is a variation of the Hebrew Yud Peh Heh
meaning pretty.

My family originated in Pakroy (Pakroujis), Kovna Gubernia (now
Lithuania), and I have been able to document it to the early 19th
Century. My great grandfather, Yisroel Kopel IOFE, was known to be a
Talmudic scholar. His father, Judah HaLevi IOFE traces back five
male generations >from me. There is also a tradition in the family
that we are Levites. Descent >from Rashi has been alleged but never
proved.

I wholeheartedly agree that all males with surnames JAFFE, JAFFEE,
JOFFE, JOFFEE, YOFFE, YOFFEE, IOFE, IOFFE, YAFFE, YAFFEE, YAPHA,
etc. should have at least a 12 marker Y-DNA test. Personally, just
last week, I have ordered a 37 marker Y-DNA test and an mDNA test
to trace my maternal line >from info@.... I have also
contacted a representative of the currently moribund Jaffe Family
Association (centered in Israel) to suggest that the Association
encourage all males with whom it has contact to do the same. Family
Tree DNA has facility for establishing a surname group.

William M (Bill) Yoffee
JewishGen Researcher #2074
SilverSpring MD USA


Re: ABELES in Chiesch, Bohemia #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Susan Lubow NJ has followed up the ABELES >from Chiesch, Bohemia saga
and writes: "there is a listing for a Theresa ABELES, b. 1893 in Chiesch.
I tracked down her family and found that there was a Samuel ABELES
who married Michelle UTITZ of Prague and they had 3 children in the
1820's. Their only son was Israel, b. 182? and d. Nov 30, 1894. He
had a son Max, b. Nov 21, 1865 in Chiesch who married Dorothea ASCHENBRENNER
and they had 7 children. The oldest was Theresa, who had 7 younger
brothers, some of them born in Munich."

I have been searching for any clues about a pair of missing ABELES
from Moravia, Richard and Fritz, but instead found a mention on Yad
Vashem of the above Max and Dorothea and the tragic fate of their son
Friedrich and his two sons [grandsons of Max and Dorothea] .

Father: Max; Mother: Dora of Chiesch Son: Friederich born 1 April 1892 -
in Chiesch and murdered in Riga in Nov. 1941 together with his sons
Oskar/David born 23 Feb 1922 in Munich and Walter, born 1 Jan 1927.

Friederich's wife was Rosa nee KATZ, but she had already died.

Testimony was given twice in 1971 in Florida by a cousin: Rita DOYCH
[DEUTSCH], nee GALLINGER - [address & zip code deleted - Moderator]
Miami Beach, Florida.

Rita had a terrible task as other ABELES victims were:

Max ABELES father Israel dob 21 Sept 1865 [wrongly transcribed as as
1885. Died in Thereseinstadt Dora ABELES nee ASCHENBRENNER [father
Moses] - dob 7 Jan 1868 Died in Auschwitz.

[Rita says she is the cousin of Max and Dora and their children].

Ernst ABELES son of Max and Dora - dob 21 June 1895
Hilde ABELES wife of Ernst - dob 25 Nov 1895 - mother
Bertha HEYMANN and Leopold HEYMANN of Wertheim, Germany.
Liselotte ABELES - daughter of Ernst and Hilde dob 7 Feb 1924
Ernst, Hilde and Liselotte died in Riga in 1941.

Eugen ABELES son of Max and Dora - dob 2 Sept 1897 - died in Riga in 1941.

Many family members lived in Munich 1939-1941. Rita also gave testimony
for her sister Selma SUNDHEIMER and brother-in-law and niece Therese;
her uncle Heinrich LINDO [mistranscribed as LINDE] and her aunt Paula
[nee LINDO] ADLER. I have just sent in a correction for LINDE/LINDO and
urge others to do the same when they see obvious mistakes.

We remember all these tragic victims today and also Rita who gave testimony
for them. It must have been a harrowing task for her.

So, tragically, we can build a family tree for our little family >from
Chiesch - but not in the way that one would wish, as most were wiped
out in the holocaust. Exactly, how Rita was related to the ABELES, I
have yet to work out. Hopefully there are descendants of Rita that can
be traced.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: ABELES in Chiesch, Bohemia #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Susan Lubow NJ has followed up the ABELES >from Chiesch, Bohemia saga
and writes: "there is a listing for a Theresa ABELES, b. 1893 in Chiesch.
I tracked down her family and found that there was a Samuel ABELES
who married Michelle UTITZ of Prague and they had 3 children in the
1820's. Their only son was Israel, b. 182? and d. Nov 30, 1894. He
had a son Max, b. Nov 21, 1865 in Chiesch who married Dorothea ASCHENBRENNER
and they had 7 children. The oldest was Theresa, who had 7 younger
brothers, some of them born in Munich."

I have been searching for any clues about a pair of missing ABELES
from Moravia, Richard and Fritz, but instead found a mention on Yad
Vashem of the above Max and Dorothea and the tragic fate of their son
Friedrich and his two sons [grandsons of Max and Dorothea] .

Father: Max; Mother: Dora of Chiesch Son: Friederich born 1 April 1892 -
in Chiesch and murdered in Riga in Nov. 1941 together with his sons
Oskar/David born 23 Feb 1922 in Munich and Walter, born 1 Jan 1927.

Friederich's wife was Rosa nee KATZ, but she had already died.

Testimony was given twice in 1971 in Florida by a cousin: Rita DOYCH
[DEUTSCH], nee GALLINGER - [address & zip code deleted - Moderator]
Miami Beach, Florida.

Rita had a terrible task as other ABELES victims were:

Max ABELES father Israel dob 21 Sept 1865 [wrongly transcribed as as
1885. Died in Thereseinstadt Dora ABELES nee ASCHENBRENNER [father
Moses] - dob 7 Jan 1868 Died in Auschwitz.

[Rita says she is the cousin of Max and Dora and their children].

Ernst ABELES son of Max and Dora - dob 21 June 1895
Hilde ABELES wife of Ernst - dob 25 Nov 1895 - mother
Bertha HEYMANN and Leopold HEYMANN of Wertheim, Germany.
Liselotte ABELES - daughter of Ernst and Hilde dob 7 Feb 1924
Ernst, Hilde and Liselotte died in Riga in 1941.

Eugen ABELES son of Max and Dora - dob 2 Sept 1897 - died in Riga in 1941.

Many family members lived in Munich 1939-1941. Rita also gave testimony
for her sister Selma SUNDHEIMER and brother-in-law and niece Therese;
her uncle Heinrich LINDO [mistranscribed as LINDE] and her aunt Paula
[nee LINDO] ADLER. I have just sent in a correction for LINDE/LINDO and
urge others to do the same when they see obvious mistakes.

We remember all these tragic victims today and also Rita who gave testimony
for them. It must have been a harrowing task for her.

So, tragically, we can build a family tree for our little family >from
Chiesch - but not in the way that one would wish, as most were wiped
out in the holocaust. Exactly, how Rita was related to the ABELES, I
have yet to work out. Hopefully there are descendants of Rita that can
be traced.

Celia Male [U.K.]


LAWGALLY #germany

Suzie Phillips <suzie@...>
 

I am researching Edward Alexander Martin LAWGALLY (Born 1856 in Schelnez
Prussia) with not much success. I am trying to
1. establish that he was Jewish and
2 find any of his ancestors.

I have searched many data bases and not found an exact match. He
married Christiana Yohanna ENDRES (born in 1866 Sth Ca Suis, Germany) in
Australia. Her family were >from Germany. (Christian Phillip ENDRES Born
1840 and Fredrica ARNOLD/ARMBOULT Born 1848). They had a son Edward
Martin LAWGALL and a grandson Edward Martin LAWGALL, and a great
grandson Peter Martin LAWGALL. He (the first Edward) disappeared >from
Australia around 1887-91. His surname differs on different certificates
LAWGALL AND LAWGALLY.

We located another Edward Martin LAWGALL in Australia (born 1844 in
Mammel, Prussia) He married in Australia and had one child there but
unable to find any trace of him after the birth of daughter Florence in
1886. This second Edward Martin LAWGALL married a woman Matilda Ellen
SAMUELS Australia in 1879. I found a Wilmer SAMUELS/LAUGALE born in the
US in 1897. I am wondering if the 2 men called Edward LAWGALLY left
Australia together and went to the United States via Germany.

I have located many with Similar names LAUGALE, LAUGELI, LAWGALI, LOGEL,
LAUGELLI, LAWGALI and many of them with the name Edward in US85 on
Ellis island and US census data bases. Many seem to have grandfather,
father and first born son called Edward. Some with Alexander and Martin
as second names....Some of them state they are Hebrew, some not. Many
of the ones who didn't state they were Hebrew travelled with Jews and
have been located on census's living closely to Jews. I found a
family in the United States with the name LAWGALI...all the first names
are Jewish, one being a Latvian name day. So far unable to make
contact.

Some of them also have sisters, wives, daughters called Frieda or
similar. He had a sister Fredricka or Freida.

The fact there are so many with the name Edward Lawgally suggests
something significant, but I don't know what.

Does anyone have any info on any of these persons or have some
suggestions as to where I might go >from here? I am very new to this.

Suzie Lawgall Brisbane Australia suzie@...


German SIG #Germany LAWGALLY #germany

Suzie Phillips <suzie@...>
 

I am researching Edward Alexander Martin LAWGALLY (Born 1856 in Schelnez
Prussia) with not much success. I am trying to
1. establish that he was Jewish and
2 find any of his ancestors.

I have searched many data bases and not found an exact match. He
married Christiana Yohanna ENDRES (born in 1866 Sth Ca Suis, Germany) in
Australia. Her family were >from Germany. (Christian Phillip ENDRES Born
1840 and Fredrica ARNOLD/ARMBOULT Born 1848). They had a son Edward
Martin LAWGALL and a grandson Edward Martin LAWGALL, and a great
grandson Peter Martin LAWGALL. He (the first Edward) disappeared >from
Australia around 1887-91. His surname differs on different certificates
LAWGALL AND LAWGALLY.

We located another Edward Martin LAWGALL in Australia (born 1844 in
Mammel, Prussia) He married in Australia and had one child there but
unable to find any trace of him after the birth of daughter Florence in
1886. This second Edward Martin LAWGALL married a woman Matilda Ellen
SAMUELS Australia in 1879. I found a Wilmer SAMUELS/LAUGALE born in the
US in 1897. I am wondering if the 2 men called Edward LAWGALLY left
Australia together and went to the United States via Germany.

I have located many with Similar names LAUGALE, LAUGELI, LAWGALI, LOGEL,
LAUGELLI, LAWGALI and many of them with the name Edward in US85 on
Ellis island and US census data bases. Many seem to have grandfather,
father and first born son called Edward. Some with Alexander and Martin
as second names....Some of them state they are Hebrew, some not. Many
of the ones who didn't state they were Hebrew travelled with Jews and
have been located on census's living closely to Jews. I found a
family in the United States with the name LAWGALI...all the first names
are Jewish, one being a Latvian name day. So far unable to make
contact.

Some of them also have sisters, wives, daughters called Frieda or
similar. He had a sister Fredricka or Freida.

The fact there are so many with the name Edward Lawgally suggests
something significant, but I don't know what.

Does anyone have any info on any of these persons or have some
suggestions as to where I might go >from here? I am very new to this.

Suzie Lawgall Brisbane Australia suzie@...