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Re: Hospital Records / Cause of Death - NYC #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Sue Jurisz asked (to paraphrase),

I found an e-mail in the Discussion Group archives that stated: 1)
Brooklyn Jewish Hospital is now part of the Interfaith Medical Center and
2) Medical records in New York are only kept for 50 years. Is this a hard
and fast rule? Should I call the hospital, or should I call the
Department of Health?

I answer

Yes, Brooklyn Jewish Hospital is now part of Interfaith. Note that
this was a different hospital than Kingsbrook Jewish, which still exists.

The law for retention of medical records in New York State is that they
are required to be kept for only *seven* years, not 50, except for
pediatric records, which have to be held either for seven years or until
the patient turns 18 (whichever is later). It is very unlikely that any
hospital keeps records much beyond 7 years, since they usually have to
store older records off site, and they have to pay for this storage.

It's even less likely that old hospital records still exist if the
hospital moved, as is the case with Brooklyn Jewish.

Nevertheless, sometimes medical records are kept for a long time, even
when the person is known to be deceased. In New York State this has
perhaps most notably been done by some mental/psychiatric hospitals, which
have held onto them for decades, for reasons that I can't fathom.

For individual records, the N.Y.C. Department of Health has only death
certificates (1949 and afterward), and medical examiner records (I'm not
sure when they start, but I believe it's the 1960's) for suspicious
deaths, accidents, suicides, poisonings, etc. Older death certificates
and medical examiner records are at the Municipal Archives. The
Department of Health does not have medical records of any individual.

Regarding the cause of death, the death certificate is frequently
inaccurate. Decades ago, potential reasons for this included the doctor
not knowing the cause of death at the time of death but still having to
state it, and the general ignorance of medicine compared to nowadays (many
diseases were nearly or completely unknown). Finally, there was laziness
with the paperwork -- this document was not very important to doctors, and
some causes of death were not "permitted" for statistical purposes. For
instance, in New York State a person is allowed to die of lobar pneumonia,
but not pneumonia. Many doctors used the same causes of death for nearly
all their patients so that they didn't have to redo the death certificate.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Hospital Records / Cause of Death - NYC #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Sue Jurisz asked (to paraphrase),

I found an e-mail in the Discussion Group archives that stated: 1)
Brooklyn Jewish Hospital is now part of the Interfaith Medical Center and
2) Medical records in New York are only kept for 50 years. Is this a hard
and fast rule? Should I call the hospital, or should I call the
Department of Health?

I answer

Yes, Brooklyn Jewish Hospital is now part of Interfaith. Note that
this was a different hospital than Kingsbrook Jewish, which still exists.

The law for retention of medical records in New York State is that they
are required to be kept for only *seven* years, not 50, except for
pediatric records, which have to be held either for seven years or until
the patient turns 18 (whichever is later). It is very unlikely that any
hospital keeps records much beyond 7 years, since they usually have to
store older records off site, and they have to pay for this storage.

It's even less likely that old hospital records still exist if the
hospital moved, as is the case with Brooklyn Jewish.

Nevertheless, sometimes medical records are kept for a long time, even
when the person is known to be deceased. In New York State this has
perhaps most notably been done by some mental/psychiatric hospitals, which
have held onto them for decades, for reasons that I can't fathom.

For individual records, the N.Y.C. Department of Health has only death
certificates (1949 and afterward), and medical examiner records (I'm not
sure when they start, but I believe it's the 1960's) for suspicious
deaths, accidents, suicides, poisonings, etc. Older death certificates
and medical examiner records are at the Municipal Archives. The
Department of Health does not have medical records of any individual.

Regarding the cause of death, the death certificate is frequently
inaccurate. Decades ago, potential reasons for this included the doctor
not knowing the cause of death at the time of death but still having to
state it, and the general ignorance of medicine compared to nowadays (many
diseases were nearly or completely unknown). Finally, there was laziness
with the paperwork -- this document was not very important to doctors, and
some causes of death were not "permitted" for statistical purposes. For
instance, in New York State a person is allowed to die of lobar pneumonia,
but not pneumonia. Many doctors used the same causes of death for nearly
all their patients so that they didn't have to redo the death certificate.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


Mendlowitz - Hungary, Baltimore MD, McKeesport PA #general

Victoria Reed <researchtoldot@...>
 

Dear friends,

I am looking for the family of a Bessie MENDELOWITZ,
the daughter of Sandor Mendlowitz and Sarah BERKOWITZ.


Bessie was born in Hungary around 1899, but was
estranged >from her family when around 1918-19 she
married a Syrian, Harry (Hafez) ESAU. She and Harry
lived in Baltimore, MD at first, then moved to
McKeesport, PA.

I am specifically looking for any relatives on
Bessie's side of the family. The friend who has asked
me to do this does not want me to contact the Esau
side of the family, although I have information on all
of Bessie's children, some of whom are still alive.

He would like to know more about Bessie's parents, and
is hoping that we can find some living relatives,
perhaps the children or grandchildren of Bessie's
possible siblings, with whom he could be reunited.

I have found Bessie and Harry Esau in the 1930 census
(in McKeesport, PA) and in the 1920 census (surname
Eissa in Baltimore, newly married with their first
child), but I have not been able to find them on the
Baltimore, Philadelphia or NY passenger lists.

Bessie supposedly emigrated in 1903, so theoretically
she would have been traveling with her parents.

I have not been able to find Sandor and Sarah on any
of the census, and as I have moved >from SF to Folsom,
no longer have access to the city directories at the
Sutro Library.

I have checked the Hamburg database, but my research
seems to indicate that most passengers leaving Hungary
departed through Bremen.

If anyone is researching this family, or has any ideas
for me, I would appreciate it. I have emailed all the
Jewishgenners on the JGFF who are researching this
name.

Thank you!
Victoria Reed
Folsom, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mendlowitz - Hungary, Baltimore MD, McKeesport PA #general

Victoria Reed <researchtoldot@...>
 

Dear friends,

I am looking for the family of a Bessie MENDELOWITZ,
the daughter of Sandor Mendlowitz and Sarah BERKOWITZ.


Bessie was born in Hungary around 1899, but was
estranged >from her family when around 1918-19 she
married a Syrian, Harry (Hafez) ESAU. She and Harry
lived in Baltimore, MD at first, then moved to
McKeesport, PA.

I am specifically looking for any relatives on
Bessie's side of the family. The friend who has asked
me to do this does not want me to contact the Esau
side of the family, although I have information on all
of Bessie's children, some of whom are still alive.

He would like to know more about Bessie's parents, and
is hoping that we can find some living relatives,
perhaps the children or grandchildren of Bessie's
possible siblings, with whom he could be reunited.

I have found Bessie and Harry Esau in the 1930 census
(in McKeesport, PA) and in the 1920 census (surname
Eissa in Baltimore, newly married with their first
child), but I have not been able to find them on the
Baltimore, Philadelphia or NY passenger lists.

Bessie supposedly emigrated in 1903, so theoretically
she would have been traveling with her parents.

I have not been able to find Sandor and Sarah on any
of the census, and as I have moved >from SF to Folsom,
no longer have access to the city directories at the
Sutro Library.

I have checked the Hamburg database, but my research
seems to indicate that most passengers leaving Hungary
departed through Bremen.

If anyone is researching this family, or has any ideas
for me, I would appreciate it. I have emailed all the
Jewishgenners on the JGFF who are researching this
name.

Thank you!
Victoria Reed
Folsom, CA


Re: LIEBMAN/LIPPMAN a kinnuy for Baruch #general

tom klein <jewishgen@...>
 

I think you are confusing two German/Yiddish words here.

"Lieb", pronounced leehb, is >from the same root as the English "love", while
"Leib" (note the spelling, also "loeb" etc.), pronounced lahyb, is >from the word
for "lion". The first occurs in names such as GOTTLIEB, or LIEBESKIND (or
LIEBMAN), which could be connected to "Baruch" (hebrew for "blessed"), while
the second was often used in association with the name Judah (often in
combinations of Judah/Arye/Leib), because of the biblical verse comparing the
tribe of Judah to a lion.

I think the similarities between "leib" and "levi" might have led people to
connect the two, but I would not automatically assume that any given "Leib" was
a levite.

While the connection between LIEBMAN and LIPPMANN is phonetically plausible,
LIPPMANN sounds suspiciously like an occupational name, but I wouldn't know
exactly what they did, and you would have to do more research into 18th century
middle franconia to find out.


....... Tom Klein, Toronto

Jeremy Goldbloom < j.goldbloom@ntlworld.com > wrote:

I was always told that the Lippmann name ( also Lieb, Loeb and Liebman) was a
derivative of Levi. My mother's branch originated >from the Gunzenhausen area
of Middle Franconia, Germany. There is a book "Our Lippmann Family" by the
late Kurt E.B. Lippmann, ISBN 0 646 27973 4 Melbourne 1995. Kurt wrote a lot
about the German Lippmanns going back to 1776. If any Lippmann descendant
thinks they might be related, try checking the Family Tree of the Jewish People
section on the Jewishgen website.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Re: LIEBMAN/LIPPMAN a kinnuy for Baruch #general

tom klein <jewishgen@...>
 

I think you are confusing two German/Yiddish words here.

"Lieb", pronounced leehb, is >from the same root as the English "love", while
"Leib" (note the spelling, also "loeb" etc.), pronounced lahyb, is >from the word
for "lion". The first occurs in names such as GOTTLIEB, or LIEBESKIND (or
LIEBMAN), which could be connected to "Baruch" (hebrew for "blessed"), while
the second was often used in association with the name Judah (often in
combinations of Judah/Arye/Leib), because of the biblical verse comparing the
tribe of Judah to a lion.

I think the similarities between "leib" and "levi" might have led people to
connect the two, but I would not automatically assume that any given "Leib" was
a levite.

While the connection between LIEBMAN and LIPPMANN is phonetically plausible,
LIPPMANN sounds suspiciously like an occupational name, but I wouldn't know
exactly what they did, and you would have to do more research into 18th century
middle franconia to find out.


....... Tom Klein, Toronto

Jeremy Goldbloom < j.goldbloom@ntlworld.com > wrote:

I was always told that the Lippmann name ( also Lieb, Loeb and Liebman) was a
derivative of Levi. My mother's branch originated >from the Gunzenhausen area
of Middle Franconia, Germany. There is a book "Our Lippmann Family" by the
late Kurt E.B. Lippmann, ISBN 0 646 27973 4 Melbourne 1995. Kurt wrote a lot
about the German Lippmanns going back to 1776. If any Lippmann descendant
thinks they might be related, try checking the Family Tree of the Jewish People
section on the Jewishgen website.


Yizkor Book Project Report for february 2006 #ukraine

Joyce Field
 

For the month of February 2006 nine updates, four new entries, and
one new book went online at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html. All the new
material has flags in the index for easy identification.

New book:

-Rietavas, Lithuania

Updates:

-Chelm, Poland
-Czestochowa, Poland
-Ilya, Belarus
-Kalusz, Ukraine
-Novogrudok, Belarus
-Nowy Sacz, Poland
-Sosnowiec, Poland
-Svencionys,Lithuania
-Zloczew, Poland

-New entries:

-Branszczyk, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. 4
-Brest, Belarus: Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. 5
-Kostopil, Ukraine: Pinkas HaKehillot, vol. 5
-Zaliztsi, Ukraine: Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. 2

Many yizkor books are being translated by professional translators
paid by donations to the project fund. Donations to support these
worthy projects can be made at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=23.
Please also consider a donation to the JewishGen General Fund to
support the infrastructure for all online projects.

To start a translation project of a yizkor book of your ancestral
town, please contact me privately.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Yizkor Book Project Report for february 2006 #ukraine

Joyce Field
 

For the month of February 2006 nine updates, four new entries, and
one new book went online at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html. All the new
material has flags in the index for easy identification.

New book:

-Rietavas, Lithuania

Updates:

-Chelm, Poland
-Czestochowa, Poland
-Ilya, Belarus
-Kalusz, Ukraine
-Novogrudok, Belarus
-Nowy Sacz, Poland
-Sosnowiec, Poland
-Svencionys,Lithuania
-Zloczew, Poland

-New entries:

-Branszczyk, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. 4
-Brest, Belarus: Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. 5
-Kostopil, Ukraine: Pinkas HaKehillot, vol. 5
-Zaliztsi, Ukraine: Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. 2

Many yizkor books are being translated by professional translators
paid by donations to the project fund. Donations to support these
worthy projects can be made at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=23.
Please also consider a donation to the JewishGen General Fund to
support the infrastructure for all online projects.

To start a translation project of a yizkor book of your ancestral
town, please contact me privately.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition


Re: Landesgericht Wien #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

The confusion here arises because there was a:

1. Vienna *street* named Landesgerichtsstr. where one
can find 19 holocaust victims who were deported to
their deaths to: *Riga, Theresienstadt, Dachau
Litzmannstadt and Modliboryzce from
Landesgerichtsstr nos 18/11, 12/7/; 20/7; 20, 18.

2. A district court called Landesgericht, Wien
Wolf-Erich Eckstein told us there are at least 18
people listed as Jewish holocaust victims who died
there. He did not know the cause of death.

Firstly, the street: there are 17 Jewish deportation
victims listed on "Letter to the Stars":

http://www.lettertothestars.at/

Just enter: Landesgericht or Landesgerichtsstr [sic]
into "adress" [sic] slot. These victims were all
deported to their deaths [see footnote] >from one or
more houses in the Landesgerichtsstr. I have checked
each one. These 17 victims are ***not the same*** as
the ones who died at the Landesgericht.

If you enter all the 17 names on the list into "Nicht
mehr Anonym" on Doew http://www.doew.at/ they do not
appear - ie they were not on the Gestapo Kartei, but
"normal" holocaust victims.

Now to the Landesgericht - the court. I cannot access
the 18 victims >from the Gestapo Kartei by a
reverse-address search on Doew - so am unable to say
who they are. But Wolf-Erich has a Doew CD and there
he can find them.

I have however discovered how **all** of us can find
the people murdered {or who died in suspicious
circumstances} at the Landesgericht, Vienna.
Please enter "Landesgericht" into the slot designated: Oder
nach einem Betreff uber die gesamte Liste suchen:
on the "Letter to the Stars" website:
http://www.lettertothestars.at/

You will find 39 names and click on each name in turn
to see which of them were deported >from the
Landesgerichtsstr. or which were killed at the Landes-
gericht itself. Here are 20 victims of summary
justice in the Nazi era. :

Josef ANDERSCH born ?
Max Israel BUCHLER [umlaut] born ?
Kurt GLASER born ?
Richard GLASER born ?
Felix GRAFE* born 09.07.1888 in Humpoletz
Elfriede HARTMANN* born 21.05.1921 in Vienna
Josef JAKOBOVICS* born 31.01.1916 in Vienna
Heinrich KAUFLER* born 10.06.1913 in ?
Schmiel LEIBEL born ?
Alexander LUBEK [umlaut] born ?
Theresia MELLER* born 27.01.1918 in Vienna
Herbert POPPER born ?
Bernhard PROPPER born in 01.01.1908 in Vienna
Alexander Johannes ROSENHEIM* born 07.12.1904 in
Vienna
Leopold SEGALL* born 19.11.1905 in Vienna
Ernst SPATZ born 13.01.1907 in Vienna
Ernst Israel SPATZ born 03.03.1923
Franz STIMMER born ?
Otto TAUSSIK born 17.07.1870 in Chotebor
Adolf WALTUCH born 13.09.1909 in ?

I was most interested to see that some died at the
Landesgericht as late as March 1945. I feel sure there
must be police records somewhere about these deaths
- if we could only locate them. They may even be in
Moscow, where I know some vital documents and data
ended up. You can see photographs of those victims
with an asterisk after their names on Doew "Nicht mehr
Anonym [look for the link on the right of the home
page] http://www.doew.at/. Enter the surname into the
search slot. Click on the photographs for comments on
their endictment. For Leopold SEGALL there is a
detailed account of his execution in Berlin.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Footnote: Heinz KAUFLER whom Wolf-Erich found on the
Gestapo list is listed on Letter to the Stars as
Heinrich KAUFLER - I have cross-checked all these
names on Yad Vashem to see what it says about their
fate. Further postings will deal with this distressing
subject. We remember them all here today.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Landesgericht Wien #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

The confusion here arises because there was a:

1. Vienna *street* named Landesgerichtsstr. where one
can find 19 holocaust victims who were deported to
their deaths to: *Riga, Theresienstadt, Dachau
Litzmannstadt and Modliboryzce from
Landesgerichtsstr nos 18/11, 12/7/; 20/7; 20, 18.

2. A district court called Landesgericht, Wien
Wolf-Erich Eckstein told us there are at least 18
people listed as Jewish holocaust victims who died
there. He did not know the cause of death.

Firstly, the street: there are 17 Jewish deportation
victims listed on "Letter to the Stars":

http://www.lettertothestars.at/

Just enter: Landesgericht or Landesgerichtsstr [sic]
into "adress" [sic] slot. These victims were all
deported to their deaths [see footnote] >from one or
more houses in the Landesgerichtsstr. I have checked
each one. These 17 victims are ***not the same*** as
the ones who died at the Landesgericht.

If you enter all the 17 names on the list into "Nicht
mehr Anonym" on Doew http://www.doew.at/ they do not
appear - ie they were not on the Gestapo Kartei, but
"normal" holocaust victims.

Now to the Landesgericht - the court. I cannot access
the 18 victims >from the Gestapo Kartei by a
reverse-address search on Doew - so am unable to say
who they are. But Wolf-Erich has a Doew CD and there
he can find them.

I have however discovered how **all** of us can find
the people murdered {or who died in suspicious
circumstances} at the Landesgericht, Vienna.
Please enter "Landesgericht" into the slot designated: Oder
nach einem Betreff uber die gesamte Liste suchen:
on the "Letter to the Stars" website:
http://www.lettertothestars.at/

You will find 39 names and click on each name in turn
to see which of them were deported >from the
Landesgerichtsstr. or which were killed at the Landes-
gericht itself. Here are 20 victims of summary
justice in the Nazi era. :

Josef ANDERSCH born ?
Max Israel BUCHLER [umlaut] born ?
Kurt GLASER born ?
Richard GLASER born ?
Felix GRAFE* born 09.07.1888 in Humpoletz
Elfriede HARTMANN* born 21.05.1921 in Vienna
Josef JAKOBOVICS* born 31.01.1916 in Vienna
Heinrich KAUFLER* born 10.06.1913 in ?
Schmiel LEIBEL born ?
Alexander LUBEK [umlaut] born ?
Theresia MELLER* born 27.01.1918 in Vienna
Herbert POPPER born ?
Bernhard PROPPER born in 01.01.1908 in Vienna
Alexander Johannes ROSENHEIM* born 07.12.1904 in
Vienna
Leopold SEGALL* born 19.11.1905 in Vienna
Ernst SPATZ born 13.01.1907 in Vienna
Ernst Israel SPATZ born 03.03.1923
Franz STIMMER born ?
Otto TAUSSIK born 17.07.1870 in Chotebor
Adolf WALTUCH born 13.09.1909 in ?

I was most interested to see that some died at the
Landesgericht as late as March 1945. I feel sure there
must be police records somewhere about these deaths
- if we could only locate them. They may even be in
Moscow, where I know some vital documents and data
ended up. You can see photographs of those victims
with an asterisk after their names on Doew "Nicht mehr
Anonym [look for the link on the right of the home
page] http://www.doew.at/. Enter the surname into the
search slot. Click on the photographs for comments on
their endictment. For Leopold SEGALL there is a
detailed account of his execution in Berlin.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Footnote: Heinz KAUFLER whom Wolf-Erich found on the
Gestapo list is listed on Letter to the Stars as
Heinrich KAUFLER - I have cross-checked all these
names on Yad Vashem to see what it says about their
fate. Further postings will deal with this distressing
subject. We remember them all here today.


Yizkor Book Project Report for february 2006 #austria-czech

Joyce Field
 

For the month of February 2006 nine updates, four new entries, and
one new book went online at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html. All the new
material has flags in the index for easy identification.

New book:

-Rietavas, Lithuania

Updates:

-Chelm, Poland
-Czestochowa, Poland
-Ilya, Belarus
-Kalusz, Ukraine
-Novogrudok, Belarus
-Nowy Sacz, Poland
-Sosnowiec, Poland
-Svencionys,Lithuania
-Zloczew, Poland

-New entries:

-Branszczyk, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. 4
-Brest, Belarus: Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. 5
-Kostopil, Ukraine: Pinkas HaKehillot, vol. 5
-Zaliztsi, Ukraine: Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. 2

Many yizkor books are being translated by professional translators
paid by donations to the project fund. Donations to support these
worthy projects can be made at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=23.
Please also consider a donation to the JewishGen General Fund to
support the infrastructure for all online projects.

To start a translation project of a yizkor book of your ancestral
town, please contact me privately.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Yizkor Book Project Report for february 2006 #austria-czech

Joyce Field
 

For the month of February 2006 nine updates, four new entries, and
one new book went online at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html. All the new
material has flags in the index for easy identification.

New book:

-Rietavas, Lithuania

Updates:

-Chelm, Poland
-Czestochowa, Poland
-Ilya, Belarus
-Kalusz, Ukraine
-Novogrudok, Belarus
-Nowy Sacz, Poland
-Sosnowiec, Poland
-Svencionys,Lithuania
-Zloczew, Poland

-New entries:

-Branszczyk, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. 4
-Brest, Belarus: Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. 5
-Kostopil, Ukraine: Pinkas HaKehillot, vol. 5
-Zaliztsi, Ukraine: Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. 2

Many yizkor books are being translated by professional translators
paid by donations to the project fund. Donations to support these
worthy projects can be made at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=23.
Please also consider a donation to the JewishGen General Fund to
support the infrastructure for all online projects.

To start a translation project of a yizkor book of your ancestral
town, please contact me privately.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition


Yad Vashem's marathon for Pages of Testimony #austria-czech

Ron Herrmann <ron_herrmann@...>
 

Dear Friends,

Yad Vashem started a campaign to collect the missing
3,000,000 Shoah victims' names. So far, Yad Vashem was
able to collect only about half of the Pages of
Testimony for the 6 million victims of the Nazis
unspeakable crimes.

Pages of Testimony can now be filled out online. You
can obtain detailed instructions >from the "Guide to
Submitting Names Online", which can be downloaded from
<http://www1.yadvashem.org/remembrance/names/site/Guide_to_Submitting.pdf>
or <http://tinylink.com/?bpA7IrsLqB>

To reach the online Pages of Testimony form, go to
<http://www.yadvashem.org/wps/portal/!ut/p/_s.7_0_A/7_0_9M?new=1>
or <http://tinylink.com/?mywlcJhkxP>

Please hurry and spread this notice to all your
friends and acquaintances. We are running out of time.
The number of survivors who still remember names and
details of our dearest is diminishing rapidly.

May our martyrs souls rest in eternal peace
Shalom

MODERATOR NOTE: Clicking on the above links will open a .pdf file.
You will need to have Adobe Acrobat (free) installed.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Fwd: Yad Vashem's marathon for Pages of Testimony #austria-czech

Ron Herrmann <ron_herrmann@...>
 

Dear Friends,

Yad Vashem started a campaign to collect the missing
3,000,000 Shoah victims' names. So far, Yad Vashem was
able to collect only about half of the Pages of
Testimony for the 6 million victims of the Nazis
unspeakable crimes.

Pages of Testimony can now be filled out online. You
can obtain detailed instructions >from the "Guide to
Submitting Names Online", which can be downloaded from
<http://www1.yadvashem.org/remembrance/names/site/Guide_to_Submitting.pdf>
or <http://tinylink.com/?bpA7IrsLqB>

To reach the online Pages of Testimony form, go to
<http://www.yadvashem.org/wps/portal/!ut/p/_s.7_0_A/7_0_9M?new=1>
or <http://tinylink.com/?mywlcJhkxP>

Please hurry and spread this notice to all your
friends and acquaintances. We are running out of time.
The number of survivors who still remember names and
details of our dearest is diminishing rapidly.

May our martyrs souls rest in eternal peace
Shalom

MODERATOR NOTE: Clicking on the above links will open a .pdf file.
You will need to have Adobe Acrobat (free) installed.


Family research Niederhoffer #ukraine

corinne Lin <corinne@...>
 

Hello, my name is Corinne Niederhoffer (birthday name) I am living in the
south of France. I discovered two month ago, my grand father Heinrich
Niederhoffer was born in Storojinetz in Ukraine. His father was Kalman
niederhoffer , his mother Malka (or Rosa Rubner). Heinrich was Doctor, he
came in France in 1933, I never know any thing >from him and when I
undertstood he came >from Bucovine, I realise I am the second generation
living in France. Do you know something about Niederhoffer family. Thank's
to help me if you can.
Corinne


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Family research Niederhoffer #ukraine

corinne Lin <corinne@...>
 

Hello, my name is Corinne Niederhoffer (birthday name) I am living in the
south of France. I discovered two month ago, my grand father Heinrich
Niederhoffer was born in Storojinetz in Ukraine. His father was Kalman
niederhoffer , his mother Malka (or Rosa Rubner). Heinrich was Doctor, he
came in France in 1933, I never know any thing >from him and when I
undertstood he came >from Bucovine, I realise I am the second generation
living in France. Do you know something about Niederhoffer family. Thank's
to help me if you can.
Corinne


Subject lines used on YTandV posts #yiddish

Bernie Levy <bernie-levy@...>
 

May I respectfully suggest to all posters that a longer, more
meaningful Subject line be used on all posts?! When the subject line
is short, esp. if only a surname, and the sender name is not
recognized, then the posting can easily be thought to be Spam and the
reader might delete or mark as Spam in their mail reader such that they
will never receive a YTandV posting again. I would assume that this
has already happened as I was very tempted to click the Spam button (in
my Yahoo mail) a few minutes ago.

Perhaps, as is done in other listserves, some sort of standard prefix
could be placed by all senders or by the moderator (if there is one),
etc. on each Subject line such as [YTandV].

Thank you.

Bernie


Yiddish Theatre and Vadeville #YiddishTheatre Subject lines used on YTandV posts #yiddish

Bernie Levy <bernie-levy@...>
 

May I respectfully suggest to all posters that a longer, more
meaningful Subject line be used on all posts?! When the subject line
is short, esp. if only a surname, and the sender name is not
recognized, then the posting can easily be thought to be Spam and the
reader might delete or mark as Spam in their mail reader such that they
will never receive a YTandV posting again. I would assume that this
has already happened as I was very tempted to click the Spam button (in
my Yahoo mail) a few minutes ago.

Perhaps, as is done in other listserves, some sort of standard prefix
could be placed by all senders or by the moderator (if there is one),
etc. on each Subject line such as [YTandV].

Thank you.

Bernie


Re: SAMUELS #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Dear Robin,
No, not a lot of people had vaudeville houses as their
destination. A vaudeville house would've been a theatre with live
performances - comedians, singers, dancers.. Individual acts combines
into a live variety show. Vaudeville was a very popular form of
entertainment for a long time; Bob Hope started out in vaudeville,
as did a very young Sammy Davis Jr, and a lot of others. The
beginning of the musical "Gypsy" depicts a vaudeville theatre/house.

Theatres have been called "houses" for quite a long time; even today,
the "house" refers to the audience area. The lights over the
audience area are called the "house lights", and "How's the house?"
means "How much of an audience do we have tonight?" With this in
mind, vaudeville houses weren't places where someone could
reside. (Those places would be "flophouses". <g>)

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia

At 09:46 PM 3/1/2006, Robin ESP wrote:
Hello,
My G-Grandfather came >from Romania through Ellis Island. On the
passenger record it says he was going to a Vaudeville House in
Portland, Maine. He lived in Chicago, had a family and ended up in
Los Angeles, CA.
Did alot of people travel >from Europe and head directly to
Vaudeville Houses? Did they live at the houses?
Thanks for any info,
Robin Samuels


Yiddish Theatre and Vadeville #YiddishTheatre Re: SAMUELS #yiddish

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Dear Robin,
No, not a lot of people had vaudeville houses as their
destination. A vaudeville house would've been a theatre with live
performances - comedians, singers, dancers.. Individual acts combines
into a live variety show. Vaudeville was a very popular form of
entertainment for a long time; Bob Hope started out in vaudeville,
as did a very young Sammy Davis Jr, and a lot of others. The
beginning of the musical "Gypsy" depicts a vaudeville theatre/house.

Theatres have been called "houses" for quite a long time; even today,
the "house" refers to the audience area. The lights over the
audience area are called the "house lights", and "How's the house?"
means "How much of an audience do we have tonight?" With this in
mind, vaudeville houses weren't places where someone could
reside. (Those places would be "flophouses". <g>)

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia

At 09:46 PM 3/1/2006, Robin ESP wrote:
Hello,
My G-Grandfather came >from Romania through Ellis Island. On the
passenger record it says he was going to a Vaudeville House in
Portland, Maine. He lived in Chicago, had a family and ended up in
Los Angeles, CA.
Did alot of people travel >from Europe and head directly to
Vaudeville Houses? Did they live at the houses?
Thanks for any info,
Robin Samuels