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Re New Family Found #general

Sally Goodman <sbgoody@...>
 

Congratulations Terri Hannah on your newly found family, thanks to
JewishGen. Yours is a wonderful story and moving story.

Probably all of us, at one time or another, have benefited >from this *great*
organization and *marvelous, dedicated* group of people.

A meaningful way to thank those who help us, namely JewishGen, is to make a
contribution to this worthy cause. Details on how to do this can be found on
www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/

Sally Goodman
Palm Springs/LA, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re New Family Found #general

Sally Goodman <sbgoody@...>
 

Congratulations Terri Hannah on your newly found family, thanks to
JewishGen. Yours is a wonderful story and moving story.

Probably all of us, at one time or another, have benefited >from this *great*
organization and *marvelous, dedicated* group of people.

A meaningful way to thank those who help us, namely JewishGen, is to make a
contribution to this worthy cause. Details on how to do this can be found on
www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/

Sally Goodman
Palm Springs/LA, CA


Re: Jarowslaw records #general

Roger Lustig <julierog@...>
 

Dear Elaine:

Where is Jawroslaw? The JewishGen ShtetlSeeker doesn't list any such
town. On the other hand, there are towns named Jaroslaw in Poland,
Jaroslav in the Czech Republic, Yaroslavy in Russia, and Yaroslava in
Ukraine. Which of these did you have in mind?

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ

Elaine Rosenberg wrote:

Has anyone ever gotten any birth,marriage,death etc. >from Jarowslaw &
environs? If so how? I have written and received no response.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jarowslaw records #general

Roger Lustig <julierog@...>
 

Dear Elaine:

Where is Jawroslaw? The JewishGen ShtetlSeeker doesn't list any such
town. On the other hand, there are towns named Jaroslaw in Poland,
Jaroslav in the Czech Republic, Yaroslavy in Russia, and Yaroslava in
Ukraine. Which of these did you have in mind?

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ

Elaine Rosenberg wrote:

Has anyone ever gotten any birth,marriage,death etc. >from Jarowslaw &
environs? If so how? I have written and received no response.


Re: City name near LA, CA [Forest Lawn] #general

Connie Fisher Newhan
 

In a message dated 4/1/2006 3:02:00 AM Pacific Standard Time,
cousintrudy@comcast.net writes:

She is buried at Mt. Sinai in the Moses Section.
Forest Lawn is the name of the cemetery in Los Angeles. Mt. Sinai is a
Jewish section at the cemetery. My parents are buried there. The address is
Mount Sinai Memorial Park, 5950 Forest Lawn Dr, L.A. CA . Phone is
800-600-0076 and the website is
www.mt-sinai.com

Best Regards,
Connie Fisher Newhan (#1272)
Corona, California
FISHER/FISCHER/FISZER, FISZEL (Warszawa& Bedzin, Poland),S(Z)PRINGER, ,
HERSZLIKOWICZ, HAMBURGER (Bedzin, Lagiza, Zarki, Poland), GERSTEN (Obertyn,
Galacia) BARSKA/BARSKY/BARSKIY(Odessa), GOLDBERG (Sokolka?), FELDMAN
(Veliuona,Kaunas), CAHN (Koln), FRIEDSAM (Bodendorf, Coln? Germany, Pittsburgh,
PA), NEWHAN/NEUHAN/NEUHAHN (Hesse Cassel, Meimbressen, Germany, Baltimore, MD),
BOHORODCZANER (Potok Zloty, Ukraine), LEVINE, BLUM, ROTH, ROCKOVITZ, ABRAMS,
RABINOWITZ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: City name near LA, CA [Forest Lawn] #general

Connie Fisher Newhan
 

In a message dated 4/1/2006 3:02:00 AM Pacific Standard Time,
cousintrudy@comcast.net writes:

She is buried at Mt. Sinai in the Moses Section.
Forest Lawn is the name of the cemetery in Los Angeles. Mt. Sinai is a
Jewish section at the cemetery. My parents are buried there. The address is
Mount Sinai Memorial Park, 5950 Forest Lawn Dr, L.A. CA . Phone is
800-600-0076 and the website is
www.mt-sinai.com

Best Regards,
Connie Fisher Newhan (#1272)
Corona, California
FISHER/FISCHER/FISZER, FISZEL (Warszawa& Bedzin, Poland),S(Z)PRINGER, ,
HERSZLIKOWICZ, HAMBURGER (Bedzin, Lagiza, Zarki, Poland), GERSTEN (Obertyn,
Galacia) BARSKA/BARSKY/BARSKIY(Odessa), GOLDBERG (Sokolka?), FELDMAN
(Veliuona,Kaunas), CAHN (Koln), FRIEDSAM (Bodendorf, Coln? Germany, Pittsburgh,
PA), NEWHAN/NEUHAN/NEUHAHN (Hesse Cassel, Meimbressen, Germany, Baltimore, MD),
BOHORODCZANER (Potok Zloty, Ukraine), LEVINE, BLUM, ROTH, ROCKOVITZ, ABRAMS,
RABINOWITZ


Blumer & Isaacs - Lewisham 1840s #unitedkingdom

Gary Luke <gary@...>
 

I recently discovered that my great-grandfather >from Poland was tried
in London in 1845 at age 20, and transported as a convict to Tasmania
in 1851. At the time of his trial he was a lodger in Union Court,
Kent St, Lewisham.

Two other names are in his Indent record in the Remarks column, where
usually relatives or close connections appear. The names are "N.
Blumer" and "B. David Isaacs". Does anyone know of these people? Were
they officials in one of the Synagogues of the time? Was there a
Synagogue near that part of London in the mid 1840s?

Gary


_________________________________
Gary Luke ~ gary@feraltek.com.au
Sydney, Australia


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Blumer & Isaacs - Lewisham 1840s #unitedkingdom

Gary Luke <gary@...>
 

I recently discovered that my great-grandfather >from Poland was tried
in London in 1845 at age 20, and transported as a convict to Tasmania
in 1851. At the time of his trial he was a lodger in Union Court,
Kent St, Lewisham.

Two other names are in his Indent record in the Remarks column, where
usually relatives or close connections appear. The names are "N.
Blumer" and "B. David Isaacs". Does anyone know of these people? Were
they officials in one of the Synagogues of the time? Was there a
Synagogue near that part of London in the mid 1840s?

Gary


_________________________________
Gary Luke ~ gary@feraltek.com.au
Sydney, Australia


* Old (1933-1944) newspapers and papers online #germany

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Friends,

I'm doing an academic research work on the Slovakian Holocaust. Would like to
consult old newspapers and papers which are online. Can you point me to some
links? Please reply off-list. Many thanks in advance

Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br> Sao Paulo - Brazil


German SIG #Germany * Old (1933-1944) newspapers and papers online #germany

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Friends,

I'm doing an academic research work on the Slovakian Holocaust. Would like to
consult old newspapers and papers which are online. Can you point me to some
links? Please reply off-list. Many thanks in advance

Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br> Sao Paulo - Brazil


Re: New in the group + search KOIRANSKY #usa

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

Just because someone lived in New York does not mean they had to be a
citizen of the United States.

Many individuals lived in the United States and never became citizens at
all. Some submitted first papers and nothing further. A third group waited
until situations like WWI or WWII came about to make the change in their
status. Yet a fourth group were the children of the non-citizens who were
born in the United States and therefore were afforded citizenship.

It is possible that your relative eventually gained citizenship, especially
if he lived until the Russian Revolution in 1917 when a number of people
took American citizenship.

Ann Rabinowitz annrab@bellsouth.net


Early American SIG #USA Re: New in the group + search KOIRANSKY #usa

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

Just because someone lived in New York does not mean they had to be a
citizen of the United States.

Many individuals lived in the United States and never became citizens at
all. Some submitted first papers and nothing further. A third group waited
until situations like WWI or WWII came about to make the change in their
status. Yet a fourth group were the children of the non-citizens who were
born in the United States and therefore were afforded citizenship.

It is possible that your relative eventually gained citizenship, especially
if he lived until the Russian Revolution in 1917 when a number of people
took American citizenship.

Ann Rabinowitz annrab@bellsouth.net


Yizkor Book Project Report for March 2006 #lodz #poland

Joyce Field
 

For the month of March 2006 the Yizkor Book
Project added seven new books, four new entries,
and nine updates. All translations are indexed at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html ,
and new material can be identified by flags.

New books:

-Belz, Ukraine
-Bialystok, Poland
-Braslaw, Belarus
-Lanovtsy, Ukraine
-Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, volume VIII: Vilna *
Bialystok * Nowogrodek districts:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/pinkas_poland/pinkas_poland8.html
(indexed under Regions). Only Table of Contents
is available now
-Poland and her Jews 1941-1944: new research
paper by Robin O'Neil:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/poland/poland.html
(indexed under Miscellaneous)
-Sadagora, Ukraine: The Jewish Vatican in Sadagora, Volume I)

New entries:

-Abony, Hungary: Pinkas HaKehillot Hungary
-Albert-Irsa, Hungary: Pinkas HaKehillot Hungary
-Rava Ruska, Ukraine: Pinkas Polin, volume II
-Sokolow Podlaski, Poland: Pinkas Polin, volume VII

Updates:

-Bolekhov, Ukraine
-Jewish Music in Poland
-Lyakhovichi, Belarus
-Nowy Sacz, Poland
-Podgaytsy, Ukraine
-Rzeszow, Poland
-Shumskoye, Ukraine
-Sosnowiec, Poland
-Vysokoye, Belarus

Please remember that genealogy is not a spectator
sport. In order to expland our knowledge of our
ancestral towns we need contributions of
translated material or money to support hiring
professional translators. So consider
volunteering to translate material >from your
ancestral shtetl's yizkor book or donating money
to the fundraising projects listed at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=23 .
Making a contribution to JewishGen to support the
infrastructure of the Yizkor Book Project is vital
for the continued growth and development of this
project.

Contact me privately if you can translate from
Hebrew and/or Yiddish and are willing to submit
translations to the project.

Hag sameach Pesach.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition
jfield@jewishgen.org


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Yizkor Book Project Report for March 2006 #lodz #poland

Joyce Field
 

For the month of March 2006 the Yizkor Book
Project added seven new books, four new entries,
and nine updates. All translations are indexed at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html ,
and new material can be identified by flags.

New books:

-Belz, Ukraine
-Bialystok, Poland
-Braslaw, Belarus
-Lanovtsy, Ukraine
-Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, volume VIII: Vilna *
Bialystok * Nowogrodek districts:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/pinkas_poland/pinkas_poland8.html
(indexed under Regions). Only Table of Contents
is available now
-Poland and her Jews 1941-1944: new research
paper by Robin O'Neil:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/poland/poland.html
(indexed under Miscellaneous)
-Sadagora, Ukraine: The Jewish Vatican in Sadagora, Volume I)

New entries:

-Abony, Hungary: Pinkas HaKehillot Hungary
-Albert-Irsa, Hungary: Pinkas HaKehillot Hungary
-Rava Ruska, Ukraine: Pinkas Polin, volume II
-Sokolow Podlaski, Poland: Pinkas Polin, volume VII

Updates:

-Bolekhov, Ukraine
-Jewish Music in Poland
-Lyakhovichi, Belarus
-Nowy Sacz, Poland
-Podgaytsy, Ukraine
-Rzeszow, Poland
-Shumskoye, Ukraine
-Sosnowiec, Poland
-Vysokoye, Belarus

Please remember that genealogy is not a spectator
sport. In order to expland our knowledge of our
ancestral towns we need contributions of
translated material or money to support hiring
professional translators. So consider
volunteering to translate material >from your
ancestral shtetl's yizkor book or donating money
to the fundraising projects listed at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=23 .
Making a contribution to JewishGen to support the
infrastructure of the Yizkor Book Project is vital
for the continued growth and development of this
project.

Contact me privately if you can translate from
Hebrew and/or Yiddish and are willing to submit
translations to the project.

Hag sameach Pesach.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition
jfield@jewishgen.org


Re: Family disappearance in Danzig between 1930 and 1937-8 #germany #poland #danzig #gdansk

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

Tamar Amit asked about the whereabouts between 1930 and 1941 of
Gustav BECKER, who had a butcher shop at Ketterhagergasse 10 in
1930, and Rachel-Rosa BECKER, who lived at Mausegasse 9 in 1941.
She could find neither listed at those addresses in the online
1937/1938 Danzig address book.

Tamar, I was also unable to find a Gustav BECKER matching your
description in the 1937/1938 address book. However, I did find
a Rosalie BECKER in the 1942 edition of the Danzig address book,
mentioned in a post I just sent to the list. In it, in section
I (page 20 of the .PDF), there is an entry for Becker, Rosalie
Wwe [widow] Langgarten 104. She does not appear at that address
or in the person-listings in the 1937/1938 address book.

Lists of members of the Jewish community exist for the period in
question, up to 1939. They are kept at the Central Archives for
the History of the Jewish People in Jerusalem, among many other
genealogically significant Danzig documents. Fortunately, two
volunteers have answered the call for help examining these
documents, in preparation for future work by the SIG.

This preparation can be speeded by the aid of other volunteers,
who should contact me for details, if potentially interested.

Best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
Coordinator, JewishGen Danzig/Gdansk SIG
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


Danzig/Gedansk SIG #Danzig #Gdansk #Germany #Poland RE: Family disappearance in Danzig between 1930 and 1937-8 #danzig #gdansk #germany #poland

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

Tamar Amit asked about the whereabouts between 1930 and 1941 of
Gustav BECKER, who had a butcher shop at Ketterhagergasse 10 in
1930, and Rachel-Rosa BECKER, who lived at Mausegasse 9 in 1941.
She could find neither listed at those addresses in the online
1937/1938 Danzig address book.

Tamar, I was also unable to find a Gustav BECKER matching your
description in the 1937/1938 address book. However, I did find
a Rosalie BECKER in the 1942 edition of the Danzig address book,
mentioned in a post I just sent to the list. In it, in section
I (page 20 of the .PDF), there is an entry for Becker, Rosalie
Wwe [widow] Langgarten 104. She does not appear at that address
or in the person-listings in the 1937/1938 address book.

Lists of members of the Jewish community exist for the period in
question, up to 1939. They are kept at the Central Archives for
the History of the Jewish People in Jerusalem, among many other
genealogically significant Danzig documents. Fortunately, two
volunteers have answered the call for help examining these
documents, in preparation for future work by the SIG.

This preparation can be speeded by the aid of other volunteers,
who should contact me for details, if potentially interested.

Best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
Coordinator, JewishGen Danzig/Gdansk SIG
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


1942 Danziger Einwohnerbuch #gdansk #germany #poland #danzig

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

Several recent messages on our mailing list have discussed a 1937/1938
Danzig address book, available online. I recently learned that a 1942
edition of this address book is also available online, at
http://www.ptg.gda.pl/index.php/publisher/articleview/frmArticleID/9/

This will obviously be of much less use to us, but I have seen at least
one Jew mentioned in it, and it is possible that many more are included.
Acording to an article by Dr. Grzegorz Berendt of the University of
Gdansk, which I hope to soon publish on our SIG website, there remained
in Danzig during the War at least 178 mixed Jewish-Christian families
consisting of about 370 persons (nearly all not registered by the Jewish
community in 1939).

Best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
Coordinator, JewishGen Danzig/Gdansk SIG
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


Danzig/Gedansk SIG #Danzig #Gdansk #Germany #Poland 1942 Danziger Einwohnerbuch #danzig #gdansk #germany #poland

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

Several recent messages on our mailing list have discussed a 1937/1938
Danzig address book, available online. I recently learned that a 1942
edition of this address book is also available online, at
http://www.ptg.gda.pl/index.php/publisher/articleview/frmArticleID/9/

This will obviously be of much less use to us, but I have seen at least
one Jew mentioned in it, and it is possible that many more are included.
Acording to an article by Dr. Grzegorz Berendt of the University of
Gdansk, which I hope to soon publish on our SIG website, there remained
in Danzig during the War at least 178 mixed Jewish-Christian families
consisting of about 370 persons (nearly all not registered by the Jewish
community in 1939).

Best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
Coordinator, JewishGen Danzig/Gdansk SIG
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


Re: Cohanim, Leviim and Yisraelim #general

Ben Forman <ben.forman@...>
 

Hi

If you want to continue this discussion further we should probably take
it off list, but just for the benefit of the list, I am sorry if anyone
felt I was casting "aspersions on the Ashkenazi Jews' heritage"

What might prompt you to say that?
Have a look at my previous email and also the reply >from Simon Tardell
where he writes

The Levi study is Behar et al., Multiple Origins of Ashkenazi Levites:
Y Chromosome Evidence for Both Near Eastern and European Ancestries, Am.
J. Hum. Genet. 73:768-779, 2003.
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/tcga/tcgapdf/Behar-AJHG-03.pdf

Have a read of the study and see what you think.

There cannot be - by definition - a Khazar Levite, since a person is a levite
by virtue of being a descendant of Levi, who obviously was not a Khazar

Presumably Khazar Levites can exist in the same way a German Levite may
move to France take a French Jewish wife and his son would be a French
Levite. Although I don not know if if the French Jewish wife was a
convert would the son still be a Levite?

The Khazar converts are indeed history, they were documented at the
time, their subsequent dissapearence and possible integrartion into
wider Ashkenazi culture does not belittle or negate anyones rights or
beliefs in my opinion. Theorys surrounding any Khazar diaspora are just
that, and as noted in both Simon Tardell's and Michael Bernet's replies
have yet to be proved conclusively,I was merely expressing one point of
view possibly evidenced in the study noted above.

Sorry for any insult caused,

All the best,

Ben
Ben Forman
manchester UK

searching: FURMAN: Kaluszyn; CAHN: Koeln; BERNSTEIN: Ylakai, STILLMAN:
Pilica/Czestechowa; SAWADY: Zavadi; GEVER: Daugavpils

MODERATOR NOTE: Ben is right. This message will end this subject. Thank you.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Cohanim, Leviim and Yisraelim #general

Ben Forman <ben.forman@...>
 

Hi

If you want to continue this discussion further we should probably take
it off list, but just for the benefit of the list, I am sorry if anyone
felt I was casting "aspersions on the Ashkenazi Jews' heritage"

What might prompt you to say that?
Have a look at my previous email and also the reply >from Simon Tardell
where he writes

The Levi study is Behar et al., Multiple Origins of Ashkenazi Levites:
Y Chromosome Evidence for Both Near Eastern and European Ancestries, Am.
J. Hum. Genet. 73:768-779, 2003.
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/tcga/tcgapdf/Behar-AJHG-03.pdf

Have a read of the study and see what you think.

There cannot be - by definition - a Khazar Levite, since a person is a levite
by virtue of being a descendant of Levi, who obviously was not a Khazar

Presumably Khazar Levites can exist in the same way a German Levite may
move to France take a French Jewish wife and his son would be a French
Levite. Although I don not know if if the French Jewish wife was a
convert would the son still be a Levite?

The Khazar converts are indeed history, they were documented at the
time, their subsequent dissapearence and possible integrartion into
wider Ashkenazi culture does not belittle or negate anyones rights or
beliefs in my opinion. Theorys surrounding any Khazar diaspora are just
that, and as noted in both Simon Tardell's and Michael Bernet's replies
have yet to be proved conclusively,I was merely expressing one point of
view possibly evidenced in the study noted above.

Sorry for any insult caused,

All the best,

Ben
Ben Forman
manchester UK

searching: FURMAN: Kaluszyn; CAHN: Koeln; BERNSTEIN: Ylakai, STILLMAN:
Pilica/Czestechowa; SAWADY: Zavadi; GEVER: Daugavpils

MODERATOR NOTE: Ben is right. This message will end this subject. Thank you.