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Re: Procedures at Ellis Island: Was the newcomer given... #general

Roger Lustig <julierog@...>
 

Steve:

What happened at Ellis Island was usually very simple: each passenger
was checked off against the passenger list on the ship's manifest, and
was examined for disease, etc. If you look at a manifest page or two at
the Ellis Island site, you'll see the big check marks.

The "Ellis Island myth" is often actually true, except for small matters
of who, where, and when. The name on the manifest is the one that was
written down by someone at the port of embarkation, which could have
been in England, Germany, Greece, France, etc. I believe that there
*were* some US immigration/customs officials in some ports at some
times, but there's no easy way to determine the identity, position, or
nationality of the person filling out the manifest.

My grandfather-in-law got off the boat and was checked off as CAMBUS.
(Same with his mother and several siblings.) His family, some of whom
were already in New York, had never used that name, and never used it
afterwards either. The ones already here were CAMPUSes. Back home
they'd been CAMPEANU, so it may well be that they gave their expected
new name (CAMPUS) when embarking; and either it got spelled wrong by the
scribe, whoever he was--or they themselves had it wrong!

No matter what the cause, the name on the manifest never caused them a
moment's trouble--or thought. They probably never saw their names
written on that page. They knew they'd been CAMPEANUs, and were going
to be CAMPUSes, and acted accordingly. When we discovered the manifest
page, CAMBUS was complete news to everyone in the family when we told them.

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA

Steve Orlen wrote:


When an immigrant was processed at Ellis Island (in the late 19th-to
early 20th centuries), was that person given a document of any sort with
their name on it? Such as "Chaim Yankl Orlin is hereby..." I part, I'm
thinking of all the wonderful mythic stories about name-changes that
supposedly occurred at Ellis Island, and about the fierceness with which
their descendants defend those stories.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Procedures at Ellis Island: Was the newcomer given... #general

Roger Lustig <julierog@...>
 

Steve:

What happened at Ellis Island was usually very simple: each passenger
was checked off against the passenger list on the ship's manifest, and
was examined for disease, etc. If you look at a manifest page or two at
the Ellis Island site, you'll see the big check marks.

The "Ellis Island myth" is often actually true, except for small matters
of who, where, and when. The name on the manifest is the one that was
written down by someone at the port of embarkation, which could have
been in England, Germany, Greece, France, etc. I believe that there
*were* some US immigration/customs officials in some ports at some
times, but there's no easy way to determine the identity, position, or
nationality of the person filling out the manifest.

My grandfather-in-law got off the boat and was checked off as CAMBUS.
(Same with his mother and several siblings.) His family, some of whom
were already in New York, had never used that name, and never used it
afterwards either. The ones already here were CAMPUSes. Back home
they'd been CAMPEANU, so it may well be that they gave their expected
new name (CAMPUS) when embarking; and either it got spelled wrong by the
scribe, whoever he was--or they themselves had it wrong!

No matter what the cause, the name on the manifest never caused them a
moment's trouble--or thought. They probably never saw their names
written on that page. They knew they'd been CAMPEANUs, and were going
to be CAMPUSes, and acted accordingly. When we discovered the manifest
page, CAMBUS was complete news to everyone in the family when we told them.

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA

Steve Orlen wrote:


When an immigrant was processed at Ellis Island (in the late 19th-to
early 20th centuries), was that person given a document of any sort with
their name on it? Such as "Chaim Yankl Orlin is hereby..." I part, I'm
thinking of all the wonderful mythic stories about name-changes that
supposedly occurred at Ellis Island, and about the fierceness with which
their descendants defend those stories.


Re: STERNGLANZ family before 1910 in Brooklyn #general

Yehudh bn Shlmo
 

--- Barbara Zimmer <bravo.zulu@...> wrote:
Here is a puzzle. I am searching for records prior
to 1910 for the family of
Marcus STERNGLANZ and his wife Fannie.
In the 1880 NY Census they are indexed as Marx and
Fanny Steruglanz. Either the writing is very bad, or
the youngest sister went by another first name.

Shabbat Shalom,
Yehudah ben Shlomo
U.S.A.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: STERNGLANZ family before 1910 in Brooklyn #general

Yehudh bn Shlmo
 

--- Barbara Zimmer <bravo.zulu@...> wrote:
Here is a puzzle. I am searching for records prior
to 1910 for the family of
Marcus STERNGLANZ and his wife Fannie.
In the 1880 NY Census they are indexed as Marx and
Fanny Steruglanz. Either the writing is very bad, or
the youngest sister went by another first name.

Shabbat Shalom,
Yehudah ben Shlomo
U.S.A.


One-Step Form for Mount Hebron & Mount Carmel Cemeteries #general

Diane Jacobs <thegenie@...>
 

Steve Morse has just added a One-Step form for searching the online
databases for Mount Hebron and Mount Carmel Cemeteries. Among other
things, his form lets you get back more than 200 hits (if you search on
the cemetery websites directly, they stop giving hits after 200). It
also gives you more choices in specifying names, and it unifies the two
cemeteries with a single search form.

Steve's form is in the "Births Deaths, and Other Vital Records" section
of his One-Step website at http://stevemorse.org. If you have any
questions about this, please contact Steve directly. His e-mail address
is at the top of the form.

Diane Jacobs
Somerset, NJ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen One-Step Form for Mount Hebron & Mount Carmel Cemeteries #general

Diane Jacobs <thegenie@...>
 

Steve Morse has just added a One-Step form for searching the online
databases for Mount Hebron and Mount Carmel Cemeteries. Among other
things, his form lets you get back more than 200 hits (if you search on
the cemetery websites directly, they stop giving hits after 200). It
also gives you more choices in specifying names, and it unifies the two
cemeteries with a single search form.

Steve's form is in the "Births Deaths, and Other Vital Records" section
of his One-Step website at http://stevemorse.org. If you have any
questions about this, please contact Steve directly. His e-mail address
is at the top of the form.

Diane Jacobs
Somerset, NJ


Descendants of Lionel MINCER #general

Ramayrassoc@...
 

Trying to find out exactly where my gg's came >from in Europe. >from census's
and death certificates it only say Russia/Poland.My grandmother and Lionel's
father were brother and sister. Lionel was born on Sterling Kansas 1900-03 and
came to Chicago in 1926 as a lawyer with Brown,Fox and Blumberg.
He lived at 5442 S Harper. Possibly his children, grandchildren
Or cousins my have knowledge of family history that I don't know.
Thanks
DicK Mayer Highland Park, Illinois U S A


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Descendants of Lionel MINCER #general

Ramayrassoc@...
 

Trying to find out exactly where my gg's came >from in Europe. >from census's
and death certificates it only say Russia/Poland.My grandmother and Lionel's
father were brother and sister. Lionel was born on Sterling Kansas 1900-03 and
came to Chicago in 1926 as a lawyer with Brown,Fox and Blumberg.
He lived at 5442 S Harper. Possibly his children, grandchildren
Or cousins my have knowledge of family history that I don't know.
Thanks
DicK Mayer Highland Park, Illinois U S A


Re: KAWALIK; was: are these surnames CHAVATSIK ... . typically #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Stan Goodman" wrote

There is a bona-fide surname KAWALIK/KAWALICK and if
you google it you will find a modern-day Marc KAWALICK
- the name does not appear to be very common.
Interesting that you should say that: KAWALICK is a variant of
KAWAL/KAWALSKI, meaning "SMITH" in Polish; these names are quite common.
Even if KAWALICK is uncommon, one would need to investigate the various
suffixes too, in order to be thorough. Bear in mind too that "C" is
pronounced as "TS" in Polish, which makes me think that the "C" in
"KOWALICK" is probably spurious, unless there was also a final "I".
Actualy, Polish equivalent for blacksmith is KOwalski (not KAwalski), there
are some KOwaliks, KOwalczuks, and KOwalewski.

Kawalik has a different meaning, mostly probably it has its origin >from the
word 'kawal' (a part)
In the distribution of surnames in modern Poland, KAwalik is shown only
twice, KOwalik over 22,000 and KOwalski over 132,000.

As to the suffix "ck" at the end of te surname as e.g. in the film maker
Stanley Kubrick (Jewish origin) or Zelnick - Zielnick, thoese are related to
the alternatives developed after imm9gration (original names were Kubrik or
Zielnik).

BTW, surnames ednded with "ik" are very popular amongst the Ukranian and
Slovak population.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


LEVKOWITZ family aka Howard Brothers Comedy Team family records #yiddish

David Priever
 

Hi Everyone,

Over the last eight years I have absolutely done my homework on this and
have amassed quite a bit of family and career information on the Howard
Brothers (Willie and Eugene), but two records totally elude me and I hope
any fellow YTandVer can give me an idea or help.

As these are general questions for Jewishgeners at large, for now I will
limit myself to the YTandV "population" for their insight.

Birth Certificates of William, Isadore (later known as Eugene), Samuel and
Rachel LEVKOWITZ, sons and daughter of Reverend Leopold and Pauline (nee
GLASS) LEVKOWITZ. Biographies and other documents put the place of birth
for Willie (b. 4/13/1886), Isadore (b.7/7/1881) and Samuel (b. 3/2/1884) and
Rachel (b. 1883) as Neustadt, Silesia, Germany. I long ago identified the
record holding location as Prudnik, Opole, Poland. I was in contact with an
archivist there but lost touch with him as he was asking me for letters in
Polish requesting the information and several other requests I was unable to
fulfill (and this was even before we spoke about costs). YES, if I really
wanted the records I should have gone to all lengths to do these tasks, but
I was hoping for an easier way.

I have searched in the database for JRI-Poland, using the "sounds like"
soundex for locating the surname LEVKOWITZ and of the over 8,000 records, I
could not locate a match.

My last quest is for the passenger list of Willie, Isadore, Samuel and
Rachel. Many biographies "claim" that they arrived when Willie was three
weeks old. I have gone ship by ship and have run dry with ideas. (pun
intended)

Any help, ideas, etc. will be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

David J. Priever
email: brooklyn1960@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: KAWALIK; was: are these surnames CHAVATSIK ... . typically #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Stan Goodman" wrote

There is a bona-fide surname KAWALIK/KAWALICK and if
you google it you will find a modern-day Marc KAWALICK
- the name does not appear to be very common.
Interesting that you should say that: KAWALICK is a variant of
KAWAL/KAWALSKI, meaning "SMITH" in Polish; these names are quite common.
Even if KAWALICK is uncommon, one would need to investigate the various
suffixes too, in order to be thorough. Bear in mind too that "C" is
pronounced as "TS" in Polish, which makes me think that the "C" in
"KOWALICK" is probably spurious, unless there was also a final "I".
Actualy, Polish equivalent for blacksmith is KOwalski (not KAwalski), there
are some KOwaliks, KOwalczuks, and KOwalewski.

Kawalik has a different meaning, mostly probably it has its origin >from the
word 'kawal' (a part)
In the distribution of surnames in modern Poland, KAwalik is shown only
twice, KOwalik over 22,000 and KOwalski over 132,000.

As to the suffix "ck" at the end of te surname as e.g. in the film maker
Stanley Kubrick (Jewish origin) or Zelnick - Zielnick, thoese are related to
the alternatives developed after imm9gration (original names were Kubrik or
Zielnik).

BTW, surnames ednded with "ik" are very popular amongst the Ukranian and
Slovak population.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


Yiddish Theatre and Vadeville #YiddishTheatre LEVKOWITZ family aka Howard Brothers Comedy Team family records #yiddish

David Priever
 

Hi Everyone,

Over the last eight years I have absolutely done my homework on this and
have amassed quite a bit of family and career information on the Howard
Brothers (Willie and Eugene), but two records totally elude me and I hope
any fellow YTandVer can give me an idea or help.

As these are general questions for Jewishgeners at large, for now I will
limit myself to the YTandV "population" for their insight.

Birth Certificates of William, Isadore (later known as Eugene), Samuel and
Rachel LEVKOWITZ, sons and daughter of Reverend Leopold and Pauline (nee
GLASS) LEVKOWITZ. Biographies and other documents put the place of birth
for Willie (b. 4/13/1886), Isadore (b.7/7/1881) and Samuel (b. 3/2/1884) and
Rachel (b. 1883) as Neustadt, Silesia, Germany. I long ago identified the
record holding location as Prudnik, Opole, Poland. I was in contact with an
archivist there but lost touch with him as he was asking me for letters in
Polish requesting the information and several other requests I was unable to
fulfill (and this was even before we spoke about costs). YES, if I really
wanted the records I should have gone to all lengths to do these tasks, but
I was hoping for an easier way.

I have searched in the database for JRI-Poland, using the "sounds like"
soundex for locating the surname LEVKOWITZ and of the over 8,000 records, I
could not locate a match.

My last quest is for the passenger list of Willie, Isadore, Samuel and
Rachel. Many biographies "claim" that they arrived when Willie was three
weeks old. I have gone ship by ship and have run dry with ideas. (pun
intended)

Any help, ideas, etc. will be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

David J. Priever
email: brooklyn1960@...


Re: JGFF - cousins reunited - too! #general

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

Renee's message has prompted me to reconfirm the power of JewishGen and it's
FamilyFinder database.

In the past several weeks I have been contacted by two cousins >from 2
different family branches.
They had read my entries in the JGFF when searching their ancestral surname.

One message proved to be >from a young woman in New Jersey whom I identified
immediately as my paternal half 2nd cousin - once removed, same
Great-Grandfather - different Great-Grandmother [or as I am more apt to
say - my fifth cousin].
She is just beginning her genealogical research, but we exchanged
photographs of our mutual ancestors and have continued our correspondence.

The second message pertained to my husband's Mother's family - a 2nd
cousin's daughter-in- law living in Arizona [originally >from Minnesota],
researching her husband's ancestry. She brought us back in touch with
members of the family with whom we had lost contact many years ago.

This was not the first time JGFF has been instrumental in bringing "lost"
members together in the six family branches which I have concentrated upon
in my research.

The Moderator suggested
<< A good way to mark such a success is by making a financial contribution
to the work of JewishGen.>>

May I also suggest that JGS Societies contribute as well? Take the time to
view Jewishgen's Fact Sheet.
The figures may surprise you!
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/FactSheet.htm

"Thank G-d for JewishGen!"

Sylvia

Sylvia FURSHMAN NUSINOV
President Emerita
JGSPBCI, FL
USA
Searching:
ABELMAN, ARONSON, DOROGOI, FRUCHT/FURSHMAN, FURSTMAN, GORDON, MELC,
SHEINKEROVICH, SHIMENOVITZ, Kaunas,Vilnius, Moletai,Ukmerge, Lithuania
AVNER, AWNER,WECHSLER, EHRENPREIS,FRIEDHOFFER, Ukraine
NOUSSINOFF/NUSINOV, LENTOTCHNIK/LENT, Ukraine


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re:JGFF - cousins reunited - too! #general

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

Renee's message has prompted me to reconfirm the power of JewishGen and it's
FamilyFinder database.

In the past several weeks I have been contacted by two cousins >from 2
different family branches.
They had read my entries in the JGFF when searching their ancestral surname.

One message proved to be >from a young woman in New Jersey whom I identified
immediately as my paternal half 2nd cousin - once removed, same
Great-Grandfather - different Great-Grandmother [or as I am more apt to
say - my fifth cousin].
She is just beginning her genealogical research, but we exchanged
photographs of our mutual ancestors and have continued our correspondence.

The second message pertained to my husband's Mother's family - a 2nd
cousin's daughter-in- law living in Arizona [originally >from Minnesota],
researching her husband's ancestry. She brought us back in touch with
members of the family with whom we had lost contact many years ago.

This was not the first time JGFF has been instrumental in bringing "lost"
members together in the six family branches which I have concentrated upon
in my research.

The Moderator suggested
<< A good way to mark such a success is by making a financial contribution
to the work of JewishGen.>>

May I also suggest that JGS Societies contribute as well? Take the time to
view Jewishgen's Fact Sheet.
The figures may surprise you!
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/FactSheet.htm

"Thank G-d for JewishGen!"

Sylvia

Sylvia FURSHMAN NUSINOV
President Emerita
JGSPBCI, FL
USA
Searching:
ABELMAN, ARONSON, DOROGOI, FRUCHT/FURSHMAN, FURSTMAN, GORDON, MELC,
SHEINKEROVICH, SHIMENOVITZ, Kaunas,Vilnius, Moletai,Ukmerge, Lithuania
AVNER, AWNER,WECHSLER, EHRENPREIS,FRIEDHOFFER, Ukraine
NOUSSINOFF/NUSINOV, LENTOTCHNIK/LENT, Ukraine


JGSGW Washington, DC - "Daily Life in Galicia" #general

Marlene Bishow
 

The next meeting of the Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington (DC)
will take place:

on May 7, 2006
at B'nai Israel Congregation, 6301 Montrose Road, Rockville, MD in the
Stearman Auditorium

Topic: Daily Life in Galicia
Speaker: Suzan Wynne

Noon-1:30 PM Board Meeting (No Workshop)
1:30 PM Schmooze
2:00 PM - 4:00 PM

Did you ever wonder what your ancestors' lives were like? Member and author,
Suzan Wynne will speak about daily life in the cities and shtetls of eastern
Europe, particularly in Galicia. An ample Q&A session will follow the
presentation, so be sure to bring questions.

Suzan is the author of the soon-to-be released "The Galitzianers: The Jews
of Galicia,1772-1918" and of "Finding Your Jewish Roots in Galicia," a
comprehensive guide to doing Galician-Jewish genealogical research. The
later book is currently out of print. and Suzan Wynne, is the founding
president of Gesher Galicia, the Special Interest Group for Jewish
genealogy. She has been doing Galician genealogical research for more than
25 years. Before retiring to pursue a mental health consultation and
supervision practice, Suzan developed and directed a large, private
outpatient mental health center in Montgomery County.

Guests are welcome. For additional information about this meeting, contact
Marlene Bishow at @Marlene

The next meeting of JGSGW will take place on June 11, 2006. This will be a
joint meeting with JGSMD and the guest speaker will be genealogy journalist
Schelly Talalay Dardashti.

for additional information about JGSGW or for directions to our meeting, see
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsgw/

Marlene Bishow
VP Programs
JGSGW
Rockville, MD


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGSGW Washington, DC - "Daily Life in Galicia" #general

Marlene Bishow
 

The next meeting of the Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington (DC)
will take place:

on May 7, 2006
at B'nai Israel Congregation, 6301 Montrose Road, Rockville, MD in the
Stearman Auditorium

Topic: Daily Life in Galicia
Speaker: Suzan Wynne

Noon-1:30 PM Board Meeting (No Workshop)
1:30 PM Schmooze
2:00 PM - 4:00 PM

Did you ever wonder what your ancestors' lives were like? Member and author,
Suzan Wynne will speak about daily life in the cities and shtetls of eastern
Europe, particularly in Galicia. An ample Q&A session will follow the
presentation, so be sure to bring questions.

Suzan is the author of the soon-to-be released "The Galitzianers: The Jews
of Galicia,1772-1918" and of "Finding Your Jewish Roots in Galicia," a
comprehensive guide to doing Galician-Jewish genealogical research. The
later book is currently out of print. and Suzan Wynne, is the founding
president of Gesher Galicia, the Special Interest Group for Jewish
genealogy. She has been doing Galician genealogical research for more than
25 years. Before retiring to pursue a mental health consultation and
supervision practice, Suzan developed and directed a large, private
outpatient mental health center in Montgomery County.

Guests are welcome. For additional information about this meeting, contact
Marlene Bishow at @Marlene

The next meeting of JGSGW will take place on June 11, 2006. This will be a
joint meeting with JGSMD and the guest speaker will be genealogy journalist
Schelly Talalay Dardashti.

for additional information about JGSGW or for directions to our meeting, see
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsgw/

Marlene Bishow
VP Programs
JGSGW
Rockville, MD


JFRA Israel - Ra'anana - Wed., May 10 #general

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
 

JFRA members and friends are invited to the next
Ra'anana branch meeting:

7.30 pm, Wednesday, 10 May

Chava Seller
"How I found out what happened to Uri's father"

After years of research, Chava will tell how she
discovered what happened to her husband's father who
disappeared in 1930s Germany.

Her story-- describing the countless letters,
applications for information, dead ends and
frustrations -- concludes with her success.

Through her experiences, attendees will learn "what is
available where" in the German archives she searched.

Beit Fisher, 5 Klausner St., Ra'anana
Doors open at 7 p.m, program begins at 7.30 p.m.
Fee including refreshments: JFRA members, NIS 5; others, NIS 20.

Info: Branch chair Ingrid Rockberger, ingrid@....

Best wishes,

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
President, JFRA Israel
schelly@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JFRA Israel - Ra'anana - Wed., May 10 #general

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
 

JFRA members and friends are invited to the next
Ra'anana branch meeting:

7.30 pm, Wednesday, 10 May

Chava Seller
"How I found out what happened to Uri's father"

After years of research, Chava will tell how she
discovered what happened to her husband's father who
disappeared in 1930s Germany.

Her story-- describing the countless letters,
applications for information, dead ends and
frustrations -- concludes with her success.

Through her experiences, attendees will learn "what is
available where" in the German archives she searched.

Beit Fisher, 5 Klausner St., Ra'anana
Doors open at 7 p.m, program begins at 7.30 p.m.
Fee including refreshments: JFRA members, NIS 5; others, NIS 20.

Info: Branch chair Ingrid Rockberger, ingrid@....

Best wishes,

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
President, JFRA Israel
schelly@...


JFRA Israel - Petah Tikva - Wed., 17 May #general

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
 

JFRA members and friends are cordially invited to the
next Petah Tikva branch meeting.

8 p.m., Wednesday, 17 May

Author/genealogist Chaim Freedman
"Davidic Dynasty: A preview of the Jerusalem reunion
of descendants of King David in June 2007"

Chaim is a prolific writer and researcher and one of
the main forces behind this 2007 conference.

Location: The Freedman home, Petah Tikvah

Reservations are essential.
Info//address/reservations: Co-chair Gilda Kurtzman,
gilda@... or co-chair Susan Edel,
susan@....

Best wishes,
Schelly Talalay Dardasht
Tel Aviv
President, JFRA Israel
schelly@...


JFRA Israel - Rehovot - Thurs., 11 May #general

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
 

All JFRA members and friends are invited to the next
meeting of JFRA's Rehovot branch.

7.30 p.m., Thursday, 11 May

Israel Pickholz
"The Pickholz Project Puzzles"

Israel will present studies >from a single surname project.

Fee: JFRA paid members, no charge; others, NIS 20.

For location (private home) and reservations contact
JFRA Rehovot chair Linda Geffon, linda@...

Best wishes,

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
President, JFRA Israel
schelly@...