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Info on name: Shmaryahu #poland

roe kard
 

I grew up with the information that my father was Chaim Yaakov ben
Shmaryahu, Chaim Yaakov the son of Shmaryahu. The thing is, there is
only one other Shmaryahu listed in all of JRI-Poland and that one has a
question mark after his name. There are other names that come up when I
list it in the 'sounds like' category: Shmerke, Szmerko, Szmerek,
Szmerka, Szmerkow, Shmerko, Szmerke, Szmirek, Szmerech, and Szimko.

Does anyone know anything about this name Shmaryahu? Is there a
biblical personage with this name? Is it an abbreviated name or a stand
in for a different name e.g. Chaykala for Chaia? Should I assume that
the names that I listed are the Polish versions of this name and that
no one who had this name chose to list themselves for a birth, death or
marriage register as having this name?

Thank you.
B'shalom,
Karen Rosenfeld Roekard
Berkeley, Ca.


JRI Poland #Poland Info on name: Shmaryahu #poland

roe kard
 

I grew up with the information that my father was Chaim Yaakov ben
Shmaryahu, Chaim Yaakov the son of Shmaryahu. The thing is, there is
only one other Shmaryahu listed in all of JRI-Poland and that one has a
question mark after his name. There are other names that come up when I
list it in the 'sounds like' category: Shmerke, Szmerko, Szmerek,
Szmerka, Szmerkow, Shmerko, Szmerke, Szmirek, Szmerech, and Szimko.

Does anyone know anything about this name Shmaryahu? Is there a
biblical personage with this name? Is it an abbreviated name or a stand
in for a different name e.g. Chaykala for Chaia? Should I assume that
the names that I listed are the Polish versions of this name and that
no one who had this name chose to list themselves for a birth, death or
marriage register as having this name?

Thank you.
B'shalom,
Karen Rosenfeld Roekard
Berkeley, Ca.


Re: Rev. W. WEINER / Summit, NJ #general

Barry Shapiro
 

Just googled Jewish Summit NJ and found

Jewish Community Center: Religious School
(908) 273-2800
67 Kent Place Blvd
Summit, NJ 07901

and there is also a conservative synagogue at that same address.

Stephanie Weiner wrote:
I'm seeking any information on "Rev. W. Weiner" whose address in 1932 was
Kent Place, Summit, NJ.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Rev. W. WEINER / Summit, NJ #general

Barry Shapiro
 

Just googled Jewish Summit NJ and found

Jewish Community Center: Religious School
(908) 273-2800
67 Kent Place Blvd
Summit, NJ 07901

and there is also a conservative synagogue at that same address.

Stephanie Weiner wrote:
I'm seeking any information on "Rev. W. Weiner" whose address in 1932 was
Kent Place, Summit, NJ.


Habergrutz/Alterleib #warsaw #poland

Stewart Alter <stewart_alter@...>
 

I am looking for information sources to research my
father's parents' families >from Warsaw.

The particular family names are Habergrutz and
Alterleib (or Alterlieb). On the Habergrutz side of
the family, I have had some success in obtaining some
information (birthdates, Warsaw addresses, etc.)
through U.S. immigration databases; since one member
of the family owned a business, I would welcome any
thoughts on how to find out more information through
relevant Polish business-information sources.

On the Alterleib side of the family, I have not been
able to find any information at all that might help me
track where they lived in Warsaw.

In both cases, I would like to be able, if possible,
to determine whether they had lived elsewhere in
Poland, among other questions.

Any shared information or guidance would be
appreciated.

Thank you.

Stewart Alter
Stewart_Alter@...


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland Habergrutz/Alterleib #warsaw #poland

Stewart Alter <stewart_alter@...>
 

I am looking for information sources to research my
father's parents' families >from Warsaw.

The particular family names are Habergrutz and
Alterleib (or Alterlieb). On the Habergrutz side of
the family, I have had some success in obtaining some
information (birthdates, Warsaw addresses, etc.)
through U.S. immigration databases; since one member
of the family owned a business, I would welcome any
thoughts on how to find out more information through
relevant Polish business-information sources.

On the Alterleib side of the family, I have not been
able to find any information at all that might help me
track where they lived in Warsaw.

In both cases, I would like to be able, if possible,
to determine whether they had lived elsewhere in
Poland, among other questions.

Any shared information or guidance would be
appreciated.

Thank you.

Stewart Alter
Stewart_Alter@...


Success: Found Descendants: Ira LILLICK 1876-1967 San Francisco, CA #general

Sal & Ellen Barbieri <elsal@...>
 

I located & spoke to the mother of the grt-grt nieces & nephews of Ira
Lillick. They are interested in their family history & as a bonus now have a
5 generation family tree plus the documents. One is a beautiful parchment
written in Hungarian when Ira LILLICK was appointed Hungarian Consul in
1937. There is also an English translation. I want to publicly thank Dr.
Joseph Schwartzman for the correction. There was no King of Hungary in 1937,
we misread "Kingdom" of Hungary. Of note, Ira Lillick bequeathed $4 million
to Stanford University.
Also, thanks to Barbara Zimmer of Norfolk, VA for her extraordinary help,
finding his obit, census & BMD info on the family. We found that Ira's
father was b.abt 1825 Wertenburg, Germany & his mother was of Dutch descent
& traced their 3 children.
Ellen Barbieri
San Diego, CA
elsal@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Success: Found Descendants: Ira LILLICK 1876-1967 San Francisco, CA #general

Sal & Ellen Barbieri <elsal@...>
 

I located & spoke to the mother of the grt-grt nieces & nephews of Ira
Lillick. They are interested in their family history & as a bonus now have a
5 generation family tree plus the documents. One is a beautiful parchment
written in Hungarian when Ira LILLICK was appointed Hungarian Consul in
1937. There is also an English translation. I want to publicly thank Dr.
Joseph Schwartzman for the correction. There was no King of Hungary in 1937,
we misread "Kingdom" of Hungary. Of note, Ira Lillick bequeathed $4 million
to Stanford University.
Also, thanks to Barbara Zimmer of Norfolk, VA for her extraordinary help,
finding his obit, census & BMD info on the family. We found that Ira's
father was b.abt 1825 Wertenburg, Germany & his mother was of Dutch descent
& traced their 3 children.
Ellen Barbieri
San Diego, CA
elsal@...


NYC LDS Film lookup request. #general

Shmuel Kehati
 

I appreciate it very much if someone can lookup for me what's in this
record:
LDS Film # 1684618. Marriage Cert. No. 18791, May 3, 1933, Josephine
Pollock.

Living in Israel, I have no access.
Thanks very much,
Shmuel Kehati
Kehatis@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NYC LDS Film lookup request. #general

Shmuel Kehati
 

I appreciate it very much if someone can lookup for me what's in this
record:
LDS Film # 1684618. Marriage Cert. No. 18791, May 3, 1933, Josephine
Pollock.

Living in Israel, I have no access.
Thanks very much,
Shmuel Kehati
Kehatis@...


Re: Rev. W. WEINER / Summit, NJ #general

Marc DVer <mdver@...>
 

I wouldn't get so upset if I were you. Even until the 1960's
practitioners of such skills as circumcisions and kosher slaughtering
had the title of Rev., as they usually had a certification for those
skills, though they were not generally Rabbis. Early in the country's
history there was a shortage of people who had formal Rabbinical
ordination >from recognized Yeshivot. In many places very knowledgeable
people who had no formal ordination carried out virtually all the
functions that a Rabbi would, including marriages and divorces. I am
familiar with this happening in Philadelphia, though I assume this
happened elsewhere, with the possible exception of New York City.

I would also speculate that a Rabbi in those days might prefer to use
the title Rev. for legal and social reasons.

I won't comment on the legality of a marriage performed by a Shochet
from a secular law point of view, but feel free to ask me privately
regarding the Jewish law aspects.

Marc DVer

Stephanie Weiner wrote:
Dear Genners,

I'm seeking any information on "Rev. W. Weiner" whose address in 1932
was Kent Place, Summit, NJ.

I nearly fell off my chair yesterday when I received my parents'
marriage certificate, and discovered that the gentleman mentioned above
performed the ceremony. I have no clue as to who this fellow is, and
whether or not he's a relative.

Thanks for any assistance you are able to provide.

Stephanie Weiner
San Diego, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Rev. W. WEINER / Summit, NJ #general

Marc DVer <mdver@...>
 

I wouldn't get so upset if I were you. Even until the 1960's
practitioners of such skills as circumcisions and kosher slaughtering
had the title of Rev., as they usually had a certification for those
skills, though they were not generally Rabbis. Early in the country's
history there was a shortage of people who had formal Rabbinical
ordination >from recognized Yeshivot. In many places very knowledgeable
people who had no formal ordination carried out virtually all the
functions that a Rabbi would, including marriages and divorces. I am
familiar with this happening in Philadelphia, though I assume this
happened elsewhere, with the possible exception of New York City.

I would also speculate that a Rabbi in those days might prefer to use
the title Rev. for legal and social reasons.

I won't comment on the legality of a marriage performed by a Shochet
from a secular law point of view, but feel free to ask me privately
regarding the Jewish law aspects.

Marc DVer

Stephanie Weiner wrote:
Dear Genners,

I'm seeking any information on "Rev. W. Weiner" whose address in 1932
was Kent Place, Summit, NJ.

I nearly fell off my chair yesterday when I received my parents'
marriage certificate, and discovered that the gentleman mentioned above
performed the ceremony. I have no clue as to who this fellow is, and
whether or not he's a relative.

Thanks for any assistance you are able to provide.

Stephanie Weiner
San Diego, CA


Re: CHUTS stats #unitedkingdom

Aubrey Jacobus <zen28027@...>
 

Some stats regarding poverty in Amsterdam early 19th C
from Emacipation and Poverty: Ashkenazi Jews of Amsterdam 1796-1850
by Karina Sonnenberg-Stern. ( Macmillan 2000 )

This book is a unique source of information on this neglected area
Population 1816
Seph 2,573
Ash 22,143
Date 1846
Ash Jews receiving relief regularly or periodically - 15,000
out of total of 22,000 ie c 70% !!

Relief was only partly provided by the State the rest >from taxes
on the Jewish Community - so allowances were meagre
Compared with 1830's Amsterdam's 42,186 Catholics ( also a minority )
10,000 received relief regularly or periodically

in London 1850 only 25% received relief regularly or periodically

The JC published weekly figures for the number of meals served in
the Brune St soup kithchen per week.

Aubrey Jacobus


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: CHUTS stats #unitedkingdom

Aubrey Jacobus <zen28027@...>
 

Some stats regarding poverty in Amsterdam early 19th C
from Emacipation and Poverty: Ashkenazi Jews of Amsterdam 1796-1850
by Karina Sonnenberg-Stern. ( Macmillan 2000 )

This book is a unique source of information on this neglected area
Population 1816
Seph 2,573
Ash 22,143
Date 1846
Ash Jews receiving relief regularly or periodically - 15,000
out of total of 22,000 ie c 70% !!

Relief was only partly provided by the State the rest >from taxes
on the Jewish Community - so allowances were meagre
Compared with 1830's Amsterdam's 42,186 Catholics ( also a minority )
10,000 received relief regularly or periodically

in London 1850 only 25% received relief regularly or periodically

The JC published weekly figures for the number of meals served in
the Brune St soup kithchen per week.

Aubrey Jacobus


Re: How do I trace a criminal? #general

lister <lister@...>
 

Just a word of thanks to the many Genners who offered helpful
suggestions on the list and privately to my query about tracing a NY
prison inmate.

There were too many responses to answer them all individually, so I
trust this note will serve for all.

Stephen Warshall
Gloucester MA

Sorry for the antispam inconvenience.

To email me: lister AT taagloucester.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: How do I trace a criminal? #general

lister <lister@...>
 

Just a word of thanks to the many Genners who offered helpful
suggestions on the list and privately to my query about tracing a NY
prison inmate.

There were too many responses to answer them all individually, so I
trust this note will serve for all.

Stephen Warshall
Gloucester MA

Sorry for the antispam inconvenience.

To email me: lister AT taagloucester.org


Naturalization - Citizenship Question #general

Jan Groshan <jangro@...>
 

I have found four listings (3 for Petitioner and 1 for a Declaration of
Intent) for the name Abe/Abraham Meyerson in the Eastern District of New
York. Without having to spend $15 for each search, is there a way I can
determine which, if any, of these are the Abraham Meyerson I'm looking for?
His arrival to this country was i 1904 and the dates of the Petitions were
1926, 1927 and 1933.

Family
Name Given
Name Year Petition
Volume Petition
Number Soundex
Meyerson Abe 1927 308 89311 M625
Meyerson Abraham 1933 183137 M625
Meyerson Abraham 1926 56997 M625

Declaration: Abraham Meyerson, Bronx County, No. 87616


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Naturalization - Citizenship Question #general

Jan Groshan <jangro@...>
 

I have found four listings (3 for Petitioner and 1 for a Declaration of
Intent) for the name Abe/Abraham Meyerson in the Eastern District of New
York. Without having to spend $15 for each search, is there a way I can
determine which, if any, of these are the Abraham Meyerson I'm looking for?
His arrival to this country was i 1904 and the dates of the Petitions were
1926, 1927 and 1933.

Family
Name Given
Name Year Petition
Volume Petition
Number Soundex
Meyerson Abe 1927 308 89311 M625
Meyerson Abraham 1933 183137 M625
Meyerson Abraham 1926 56997 M625

Declaration: Abraham Meyerson, Bronx County, No. 87616


RE Sending Money Home to Galicia #galicia

Marjorie Rosenfeld <marjorierosenfeld@...>
 

In a March 2, 1935 letter to my father, my paternal grandfather, Morris
Stamm--born in Brody, Galicia, in 1976 and subsequently living in
Galesburg, Illinois--writes:

"I . . . want you to send $20.00 to my cousin, Leizack, in Poland, and
$10.00 to Miss Frankel, in Poland. You give Ralph the money, and he
will go to the Postoffice [sic] and get a money order for each one, as he has
been getting them for me before."

I don't know if this is relevant to the inquiry about sending money to
Galicia, but Brody (now in Ukraine) was in Galicia before it became part
of Poland after World War I.

It's too bad for me that the request made by my grandfather was so long
ago, since I have no idea who Leizack was or who Miss Frankel was or whether
these people lived in Brody or someplace else in Poland. And I don't
suppose there's any way of looking up old Postal Money Order records
from 1935!
Still, this letter >from my grandfather indicates that money could be
sent to Poland via Postal Money Order as long ago as 71 years. Perhaps
it could have gotten to Galicia a bit earlier in the same way.

Marjorie Stamm Rosenfeld
Carlsbad, CA

Researching: STAMM (Brody, Ukraine); WEISSER (Vishnevets, Ukraine);
BOXERMAN (Teofipol, Ukraine); KOVARSKY (Vilnius and Svencionys,
Lithuania);
SHESKIN (Vilnius, Lithuania); UDELSON (Kudirkos Naumiestis, Lithuania);
GITTLESON (Lithuania) =20


Rev. W. Weiner / Summit, NJ #galicia

Stephanie Weiner <laguna@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I'm seeking any information on "Rev. W. Weiner" whose address in 1932
was Kent Place, Summit, NJ.

I nearly fell off my chair yesterday when I received my parents'
marriage certificate, and discovered that the gentleman mentioned above
performed the ceremony. I have NO CLUE as to who this fellow is, and
whether or not he's a relative.

Thanks for any assistance you are able to provide.

Stephanie Weiner
San Diego, CA