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Was permission to emigrate requried between 1807 and 1816?
#germany
Richard Welch <rwelch@...>
Hyman (Hayim, Hermann) LAZARUS, my immigrant German-Jewish ancestor, arrived
in the United States at Philadelphia in November of 1816. There is a person of the same name, occupation, and approximately the same age in a document showing that he was a fruit peddler in Appenheim (near Mainz) in March of 1807. I would like to prove or disprove that these two individuals were the same person. My question is, would a Jew >from this part of Germany between 1807 and 1816 have been required to obtain written permission >from the local German authorities to emigrate, or, since this was during the time that Napoleon controlled much of the Rheinland, would he, under French law, simply have been able to leave without obtaining written permission? A staff member at the State Archives that has the records >from this area is willing to do some searching for me, but there is no sense asking if an emigration document was not required. Richard Welch rwelch@zianet.com Farmington, New Mexico
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German SIG #Germany Was permission to emigrate requried between 1807 and 1816?
#germany
Richard Welch <rwelch@...>
Hyman (Hayim, Hermann) LAZARUS, my immigrant German-Jewish ancestor, arrived
in the United States at Philadelphia in November of 1816. There is a person of the same name, occupation, and approximately the same age in a document showing that he was a fruit peddler in Appenheim (near Mainz) in March of 1807. I would like to prove or disprove that these two individuals were the same person. My question is, would a Jew >from this part of Germany between 1807 and 1816 have been required to obtain written permission >from the local German authorities to emigrate, or, since this was during the time that Napoleon controlled much of the Rheinland, would he, under French law, simply have been able to leave without obtaining written permission? A staff member at the State Archives that has the records >from this area is willing to do some searching for me, but there is no sense asking if an emigration document was not required. Richard Welch rwelch@zianet.com Farmington, New Mexico
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Russian translation
#poland
Shelly Crane
Hello,
I posted two JRI documents and hope someone will kindly translate. http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8013 1892 Death document of Mowsza Aron MILEWICZ; Grajewo, Poland. Written in Russian http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8014 1899 Marriage document of Jankel OROWICZ to Itka GABELMAN, Szczuczyn, Poland. Written in Russian Please reply privately. Thank you very much! Shelly Crane USA crzprncess@aol.com Lomza/Suwalki, Poland: BARASZ, BRZOZA, BUGAJSKI,CYPKOWSKI, ELENBOIN, FORSTADT, FRIDMAN, GELBERG, GINSBURG, GOLDBERG, GOSHFSKY, JAKUBINSKI, KAWKA, KLEINMAN, KOBRANSKI, KOWNACKI, KRASZEWSKI, LEJZEROWICZ, LEWINSKI, MICMACHER, NAJMARK,ORKOWSKI, POLTACKI, ROSENSZTEJN, SIEDOROWSKI, SZEINKOP, SZTABINSKI, TYCKIEWICZ
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JRI Poland #Poland Russian translation
#poland
Shelly Crane
Hello,
I posted two JRI documents and hope someone will kindly translate. http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8013 1892 Death document of Mowsza Aron MILEWICZ; Grajewo, Poland. Written in Russian http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8014 1899 Marriage document of Jankel OROWICZ to Itka GABELMAN, Szczuczyn, Poland. Written in Russian Please reply privately. Thank you very much! Shelly Crane USA crzprncess@aol.com Lomza/Suwalki, Poland: BARASZ, BRZOZA, BUGAJSKI,CYPKOWSKI, ELENBOIN, FORSTADT, FRIDMAN, GELBERG, GINSBURG, GOLDBERG, GOSHFSKY, JAKUBINSKI, KAWKA, KLEINMAN, KOBRANSKI, KOWNACKI, KRASZEWSKI, LEJZEROWICZ, LEWINSKI, MICMACHER, NAJMARK,ORKOWSKI, POLTACKI, ROSENSZTEJN, SIEDOROWSKI, SZEINKOP, SZTABINSKI, TYCKIEWICZ
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article - Holocaust Archivists Piece Together Bits of Lives
#ukraine
Andrew Blumberg <ajb61@...>
The Los Angeles Times has posted an article titled "Holocaust Archivists
Piece Together Bits of Lives" about the records of the ITS, their digitization and the type of details they contain. The article can be = read for free and without registration at: http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/la-fg-nazis17jun17,1,7838140.story?page=3D1&ctrack=1&cset=true Andrew Blumberg NY MODERATOR'S NOTE: You may need to copy and paste the address into your browser.
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine article - Holocaust Archivists Piece Together Bits of Lives
#ukraine
Andrew Blumberg <ajb61@...>
The Los Angeles Times has posted an article titled "Holocaust Archivists
Piece Together Bits of Lives" about the records of the ITS, their digitization and the type of details they contain. The article can be = read for free and without registration at: http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/la-fg-nazis17jun17,1,7838140.story?page=3D1&ctrack=1&cset=true Andrew Blumberg NY MODERATOR'S NOTE: You may need to copy and paste the address into your browser.
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IAJGS Resource Room Services
#yiddish
David Harris <dorsharris@...>
The Resource Room at the 26th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish
Genealogy will provide a wide range of electronic, print, microfilm, and human resources to assist attendees with their research. Computer services and databases will include.... * access to Ancestry.com, HeritageQuest census records, the New York Times(1857-2000) and newspaper archives and the Godfrey Library collection of online databases * U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum Database - (three million records normally available only at the Museum) and the Shoah Foundation Visual History Archive search tool and testimony catalog * Manhattan Brides Index (the data entered so far in the Genealogy Federation of Long Island project to index 1,400,000 marriage licenses by bride's name) * Memorial Database of Jewish Soldiers, Partisans and Workers Killed in Action during Nazism (a searchable database of Jews in the Russian army killed and missing in action during WWII) Among the 100-plus books and other print materials on hand will be... * dozens of reference books on general and Jewish genealogy, Jewish and New York history, immigration, translation, cemetery research, rabbinic research, the Holocaust and a large collection of volumes on Jewish Bialystok * large scale insurance maps of New York's old Lower East Side and a variety of historical and modern maps of Europe * the Center for Jewish History Genealogy Institute Fact Sheets * individual research projects We are also delighted to offer... * a large collection of microfilm of Jewish interest usually housed at the Woodside (Queens) Family History Center - including the Hamburg Emigration Lists - and 10 microfilm readers on which to view the them Plus we welcome the participation in the Resource Room of... * translators to interpret documents in Russian, Polish, Spanish, Hebrew, Yiddish, and other languages * representatives of Ancestry.com in the Resource Room to assist in using that site and representatives of the Shoah Foundation, available for consultation Please check the Resource Room page on the Conference website (www.jgsny2006.org/resource_room.cfm) for details, additional items, and updates. If you have material to share, please contact us at resources@jgsny2006. Gloria Berkenstat Freund 26th Annual IAJGS Conference Program Committee Chair glory1@RCN.COM
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Yiddish Theatre and Vadeville #YiddishTheatre IAJGS Resource Room Services
#yiddish
David Harris <dorsharris@...>
The Resource Room at the 26th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish
Genealogy will provide a wide range of electronic, print, microfilm, and human resources to assist attendees with their research. Computer services and databases will include.... * access to Ancestry.com, HeritageQuest census records, the New York Times(1857-2000) and newspaper archives and the Godfrey Library collection of online databases * U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum Database - (three million records normally available only at the Museum) and the Shoah Foundation Visual History Archive search tool and testimony catalog * Manhattan Brides Index (the data entered so far in the Genealogy Federation of Long Island project to index 1,400,000 marriage licenses by bride's name) * Memorial Database of Jewish Soldiers, Partisans and Workers Killed in Action during Nazism (a searchable database of Jews in the Russian army killed and missing in action during WWII) Among the 100-plus books and other print materials on hand will be... * dozens of reference books on general and Jewish genealogy, Jewish and New York history, immigration, translation, cemetery research, rabbinic research, the Holocaust and a large collection of volumes on Jewish Bialystok * large scale insurance maps of New York's old Lower East Side and a variety of historical and modern maps of Europe * the Center for Jewish History Genealogy Institute Fact Sheets * individual research projects We are also delighted to offer... * a large collection of microfilm of Jewish interest usually housed at the Woodside (Queens) Family History Center - including the Hamburg Emigration Lists - and 10 microfilm readers on which to view the them Plus we welcome the participation in the Resource Room of... * translators to interpret documents in Russian, Polish, Spanish, Hebrew, Yiddish, and other languages * representatives of Ancestry.com in the Resource Room to assist in using that site and representatives of the Shoah Foundation, available for consultation Please check the Resource Room page on the Conference website (www.jgsny2006.org/resource_room.cfm) for details, additional items, and updates. If you have material to share, please contact us at resources@jgsny2006. Gloria Berkenstat Freund 26th Annual IAJGS Conference Program Committee Chair glory1@RCN.COM
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Commemoration in Bekescsaba on June 25.
#hungary
g_hirsch@...
As since many years, I am visiting Hungary and will be in Hungary >from 22. June until 17. July. I will attend the commemoration service in Bekescsaba in memory of our deportation >from the ghetto on 1944 June 25. to Austria and on June 26. to Auschwitz/Birkenau. I will spend some days in Budapest and some in Gyula were beside the thermalbath there is also the counties archive of Bekes the rest in Budapest.
Best regards Gabor Hirsch
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Re: The Hebrew equivalent of Vilmos
#hungary
Judy and Gary Floam <gfloam@...>
Just a further thought on this question: does the name "vilmos" have a
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meaning in Hungarian? And does it have anything to do with wolves? "Ze'ev" means wolf in Hebrew and the Yiddish-German-English counterparts to that Hebrew name were often Wolf or William (including my father and one of my mother's brothers). Judy Floam Baltimore, Md.
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From: Prof. G. L. Esterson <jerry@vms.huji.ac.il> To: H-SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org> Cc: Amos Israel Zezmer <amos.zezmer@wanadoo.fr> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 4:14 PM Subject: Re:[h-sig] The Hebrew equivalent of Vilmos Amos Zezmer posted as follows:linkage between Hungarian (and German) secular names and these two Hebrew names,to have used both the name Vilmos and the name Binyamin, then in a JewishhaMechune Vilmosh.Text Search (without the quotation marks). An update to this GNDB is now in
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IAJGS Conf Resource Room
#hungary
Vivian Kahn
The Resource Room at the 26th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish
Genealogy will provide a wide range of electronic, print, microfilm, and human resources to assist attendees with their research. Computer services and databases will include.... * access to Ancestry.com, HeritageQuest census records, the New York Times(1857 2000) and newspaper archives and Godfrey Library=92s =20 collection of online databases * U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum Database - (three million records =20 normally available only at the Museum) and the Shoah Foundation=92s Visual = History Archive search tool and testimony catalog * Manhattan Brides Index (the data entered so far in the Genealogy Federation of Long Island project to index 1,400,000 marriage =20 licenses by bride's name) * Memorial Database of Jewish Soldiers, Partisans and Workers Killed in Action during Nazism (a searchable database of Jews in the Russian army killed and missing in action during WWII) Among the 100-plus books and other print materials on hand will be... * dozens of reference books on general and Jewish genealogy, Jewish =20 and New York history, immigration, translation, cemetery research, rabbinic research, the Holocaust and a large collection of volumes on Jewish Bialystok * large scale insurance maps of New York's old Lower East Side and a =20 variety of historical and modern maps of Europe * the Center for Jewish History Genealogy Institute Fact Sheets * individual research projects We are also delighted to offer... * a large collection of microfilm of Jewish interest usually housed =20 at the Woodside (Queens) Family History Center - including the Hamburg =20 Emigration Lists - and 10 microfilm readers on which to view the them Plus we welcome the participation in the Resource Room of... * translators to interpret documents in Russian, Polish, Spanish, =20 Hebrew, Yiddish, and other languages * representatives of Ancestry.com in the Resource Room to assist in =20 using that site and representatives of the Shoah Foundation, available for consultation Please check the Resource Room page on the Conference website (www.jgsny2006.org/resource_room.cfm) for details, additional items, and updates. If you have material to share, please contact us at resources@jgsny2006. Gloria Berkenstat Freund 26th Annual IAJGS Conference Program Committee Chair glory1@RCN.COM
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Commemoration in Bekescsaba on June 25.
#hungary
g_hirsch@...
As since many years, I am visiting Hungary and will be in Hungary >from 22. June until 17. July. I will attend the commemoration service in Bekescsaba in memory of our deportation >from the ghetto on 1944 June 25. to Austria and on June 26. to Auschwitz/Birkenau. I will spend some days in Budapest and some in Gyula were beside the thermalbath there is also the counties archive of Bekes the rest in Budapest.
Best regards Gabor Hirsch
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Re:The Hebrew equivalent of Vilmos
#hungary
Judy and Gary Floam <gfloam@...>
Just a further thought on this question: does the name "vilmos" have a
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
meaning in Hungarian? And does it have anything to do with wolves? "Ze'ev" means wolf in Hebrew and the Yiddish-German-English counterparts to that Hebrew name were often Wolf or William (including my father and one of my mother's brothers). Judy Floam Baltimore, Md.
----- Original Message -----
From: Prof. G. L. Esterson <jerry@vms.huji.ac.il> To: H-SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org> Cc: Amos Israel Zezmer <amos.zezmer@wanadoo.fr> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 4:14 PM Subject: Re:[h-sig] The Hebrew equivalent of Vilmos Amos Zezmer posted as follows:linkage between Hungarian (and German) secular names and these two Hebrew names,to have used both the name Vilmos and the name Binyamin, then in a JewishhaMechune Vilmosh.Text Search (without the quotation marks). An update to this GNDB is now in
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Hungary SIG #Hungary IAJGS Conf Resource Room
#hungary
Vivian Kahn
The Resource Room at the 26th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish
Genealogy will provide a wide range of electronic, print, microfilm, and human resources to assist attendees with their research. Computer services and databases will include.... * access to Ancestry.com, HeritageQuest census records, the New York Times(1857 2000) and newspaper archives and Godfrey Library=92s =20 collection of online databases * U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum Database - (three million records =20 normally available only at the Museum) and the Shoah Foundation=92s Visual = History Archive search tool and testimony catalog * Manhattan Brides Index (the data entered so far in the Genealogy Federation of Long Island project to index 1,400,000 marriage =20 licenses by bride's name) * Memorial Database of Jewish Soldiers, Partisans and Workers Killed in Action during Nazism (a searchable database of Jews in the Russian army killed and missing in action during WWII) Among the 100-plus books and other print materials on hand will be... * dozens of reference books on general and Jewish genealogy, Jewish =20 and New York history, immigration, translation, cemetery research, rabbinic research, the Holocaust and a large collection of volumes on Jewish Bialystok * large scale insurance maps of New York's old Lower East Side and a =20 variety of historical and modern maps of Europe * the Center for Jewish History Genealogy Institute Fact Sheets * individual research projects We are also delighted to offer... * a large collection of microfilm of Jewish interest usually housed =20 at the Woodside (Queens) Family History Center - including the Hamburg =20 Emigration Lists - and 10 microfilm readers on which to view the them Plus we welcome the participation in the Resource Room of... * translators to interpret documents in Russian, Polish, Spanish, =20 Hebrew, Yiddish, and other languages * representatives of Ancestry.com in the Resource Room to assist in =20 using that site and representatives of the Shoah Foundation, available for consultation Please check the Resource Room page on the Conference website (www.jgsny2006.org/resource_room.cfm) for details, additional items, and updates. If you have material to share, please contact us at resources@jgsny2006. Gloria Berkenstat Freund 26th Annual IAJGS Conference Program Committee Chair glory1@RCN.COM
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Re: Name Puzzle
#general
Judith Romney Wegner
At 3:28 PM -0700 6/17/06, <allan@gothicmeadows.com.au> wrote:
I don't know about daughters, but apparently it was not uncommon for a son to adopt his matronymic (mother's surname) in place of his patronymic (father's surname) in order to escape conscription into the Czar's army by concealing his true identity. Judith Romney Wegner
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Name Puzzle
#general
Judith Romney Wegner
At 3:28 PM -0700 6/17/06, <allan@gothicmeadows.com.au> wrote:
I don't know about daughters, but apparently it was not uncommon for a son to adopt his matronymic (mother's surname) in place of his patronymic (father's surname) in order to escape conscription into the Czar's army by concealing his true identity. Judith Romney Wegner
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ALCALAY (ALCALAI) Family
#general
Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
Following the posting I sent here last 15 June, I receive a very
important information >from a Jewishgenner whom I thank very much. He sent me the link http://www.kkjsm.org/ which includes an article about the deportation and a list of the victims >from Janina (Ioannina). I was very surprised to read that the four persons (plus one) I was searching for were deported >from Janina (Ioannina) and not >from France, even if their death certificate with the mention "died in deportation" was written down in France. It's matter of Moisis ALKALAI (born 1894), Esther ALKALAI (1914), Iakov ALKALAI, Louiza ALKALAI (1910), Chavoula ALKALAI nee KOFINA (1875). If these names ring a bell somewhere, any information would be welcome. -- Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky Besancon (France) and also Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris) http://www.genealoj.org
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ALCALAY (ALCALAI) Family
#general
Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
Following the posting I sent here last 15 June, I receive a very
important information >from a Jewishgenner whom I thank very much. He sent me the link http://www.kkjsm.org/ which includes an article about the deportation and a list of the victims >from Janina (Ioannina). I was very surprised to read that the four persons (plus one) I was searching for were deported >from Janina (Ioannina) and not >from France, even if their death certificate with the mention "died in deportation" was written down in France. It's matter of Moisis ALKALAI (born 1894), Esther ALKALAI (1914), Iakov ALKALAI, Louiza ALKALAI (1910), Chavoula ALKALAI nee KOFINA (1875). If these names ring a bell somewhere, any information would be welcome. -- Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky Besancon (France) and also Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris) http://www.genealoj.org
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Re: Finding a town in Hungary (or anywhere!)
#general
Vivian Kahn
When searching for communities that were in Hungary in the 19th and
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early 20th centuries it's important to remember that there have been numerous border changes. After World War I parts of Hungary were ceded to Romania and to the new country of Czechoslovakia. Some of the latter areas are now part of Slovakia while other areas to the east are now in the Ukraine. During WWII, some areas were briefly returned to Hungary and then became parts of bordering nations after the war. Because of these border shifts the first thing you need to do, before searching ShtetlSeeker, is find out the country in which your shtetl is now located. The Hungarian SIG has an on-line cross-reference list that can help you determine the present name and country of places that used to be in Hungary. Go to the Hungarian SIG home page, scroll down to the H- SIG cross reference guide and download this very useful resource. We hope to eventually make this resource searchable on-line. If you know the old Hungarian name (not the Yiddish name) of a place you can check the searchable 1913 Gazetteer at the Radix website, an invaluable resource (second only to the H-SIG website, of course!) for anyone who is researching Hungarian-Jewish roots. Go to http://www.bogardi.com/gen/g168.shtml and enter all or part of the place name in the search box to find out the country in which your shtetl is now located. Anyone researching Hungarian Jewish roots is also encouraged to send messages to the Hungarian SIG mail list. We have almost 900 subscribers, quite a few of whom are fluent in Hungarian as well as others who can give you info about where to search for old records. Vivian Kahn, Hungarian SIG Coordinator
Mark Suss asked about finding his town in Hungary. Let me suggest
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Finding a town in Hungary (or anywhere!)
#general
Vivian Kahn
When searching for communities that were in Hungary in the 19th and
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
early 20th centuries it's important to remember that there have been numerous border changes. After World War I parts of Hungary were ceded to Romania and to the new country of Czechoslovakia. Some of the latter areas are now part of Slovakia while other areas to the east are now in the Ukraine. During WWII, some areas were briefly returned to Hungary and then became parts of bordering nations after the war. Because of these border shifts the first thing you need to do, before searching ShtetlSeeker, is find out the country in which your shtetl is now located. The Hungarian SIG has an on-line cross-reference list that can help you determine the present name and country of places that used to be in Hungary. Go to the Hungarian SIG home page, scroll down to the H- SIG cross reference guide and download this very useful resource. We hope to eventually make this resource searchable on-line. If you know the old Hungarian name (not the Yiddish name) of a place you can check the searchable 1913 Gazetteer at the Radix website, an invaluable resource (second only to the H-SIG website, of course!) for anyone who is researching Hungarian-Jewish roots. Go to http://www.bogardi.com/gen/g168.shtml and enter all or part of the place name in the search box to find out the country in which your shtetl is now located. Anyone researching Hungarian Jewish roots is also encouraged to send messages to the Hungarian SIG mail list. We have almost 900 subscribers, quite a few of whom are fluent in Hungarian as well as others who can give you info about where to search for old records. Vivian Kahn, Hungarian SIG Coordinator
Mark Suss asked about finding his town in Hungary. Let me suggest
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