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Re: Orphanage in Berdichev in 1920 #general

Anita <anitac47@...>
 

As I answered directly to Irina, it is always limiting to assume on
anything. Although I wish it were otherwise, we are no different than the
world at large. Currently an issue is spousal abuse in the Chassic
community. There are all kinds of substance abuse, infidelities (King David
comes to mind), crime, (Jack Abramoff !) etc. Having traditions doesn't
imply universal adherence to them.

Children could have been put in orphanges for phalanx of reasons: a second
wife didn't want the children; the second wife was not a physically strong
person; the child was wild (ADD/HD is not something new), the child was
dangerous; the adults didn't have enough money to support the child; the
father didn't have a heart....whatever. It might be interesting to trace
down stories (where possible) of what the other members of the family were like.

Regards,
Anita Citron
Hicksville, NY


location, location, location #general

Anita <anitac47@...>
 

In the last digest there were a number of messages without the writing
noting at least the geographic coordinates of where they live on this
planet (assumed). It is very helpful to those of us who may want to help to
know where you live in order to make appropriate suggestions (like not
suggesting the New York Public Library is you live in Zimbabwe).

Giving a city or at least a country saves everyone time and makes the
assistance that much more meaningful.

Regards,
Anita Citron
Hicksville, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Orphanage in Berdichev in 1920 #general

Anita <anitac47@...>
 

As I answered directly to Irina, it is always limiting to assume on
anything. Although I wish it were otherwise, we are no different than the
world at large. Currently an issue is spousal abuse in the Chassic
community. There are all kinds of substance abuse, infidelities (King David
comes to mind), crime, (Jack Abramoff !) etc. Having traditions doesn't
imply universal adherence to them.

Children could have been put in orphanges for phalanx of reasons: a second
wife didn't want the children; the second wife was not a physically strong
person; the child was wild (ADD/HD is not something new), the child was
dangerous; the adults didn't have enough money to support the child; the
father didn't have a heart....whatever. It might be interesting to trace
down stories (where possible) of what the other members of the family were like.

Regards,
Anita Citron
Hicksville, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen location, location, location #general

Anita <anitac47@...>
 

In the last digest there were a number of messages without the writing
noting at least the geographic coordinates of where they live on this
planet (assumed). It is very helpful to those of us who may want to help to
know where you live in order to make appropriate suggestions (like not
suggesting the New York Public Library is you live in Zimbabwe).

Giving a city or at least a country saves everyone time and makes the
assistance that much more meaningful.

Regards,
Anita Citron
Hicksville, NY


Re: Cost of copies from National Archives in NYC #general

Diane Jacobs <thegenie@...>
 

For ordering a record , it is $10 , not per page.

Diane Jacobs
Somerset, NJ


Re: Eisenach ship photo #general

Susan&David
 

I have been successful in finding passenger ship postcards and other
pictures by monitoring the well known on-line auction websites.

David Rosen
Boston, MA

Joan Engel wrote:


I have looked through all the ship list files and googled Eisenach but
have not been able to find a photo of the Eisenach. Anyone out there
have one they are willing to share?

I believe the ship sailed >from Bremen on 14 May 1913 and arrived in
Baltimore Jun 1913.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Cost of copies from National Archives in NYC #general

Diane Jacobs <thegenie@...>
 

For ordering a record , it is $10 , not per page.

Diane Jacobs
Somerset, NJ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Eisenach ship photo #general

Susan&David
 

I have been successful in finding passenger ship postcards and other
pictures by monitoring the well known on-line auction websites.

David Rosen
Boston, MA

Joan Engel wrote:


I have looked through all the ship list files and googled Eisenach but
have not been able to find a photo of the Eisenach. Anyone out there
have one they are willing to share?

I believe the ship sailed >from Bremen on 14 May 1913 and arrived in
Baltimore Jun 1913.


Searching the Mt. Zion Cemetery database #scandinavia

Steven Lasky <steve725@...>
 

Greetings all,
I have created a page on my website that suggests the best ways to do a
search on the Mt. Zion Cemetery database. If you are having problems with
your searches, it might pay to take a look at it. The link to this page is
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/erc-scdb.htm .
If you are looking for all the burial entries for a certain surname without
exact knowledge of where they are buried, I would urge you to search all
four available cemetery databases, i.e. those of Mts. Zion, Hebron, Carmel
and Moriah. These databases combined contain information on over half a
million burials.
I am hoping that the searchable databases for Mts. Judah and Ararat will be
created and put online before the August conference. I will let you know
when they are.
As a side note, July 1st marked the one-year anniversary of my virtual
museum website. I am proud of what I have accomplished and am thankful to
all those who have graciously have helped me along the way. I have just
revamped many pages on my site and have added new ones. I hope that you like
what I have done. The best is yet to come.

Best regards,
Steve Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com


Cemetery database websites:
www.mounthebroncemetery.com
www.mountcarmelcemetery.com
www.mountzioncemetery.com
www.mountmoriahcemeteryofnewjersey.org


Scandinavia SIG #Scandinavia Searching the Mt. Zion Cemetery database #scandinavia

Steven Lasky <steve725@...>
 

Greetings all,
I have created a page on my website that suggests the best ways to do a
search on the Mt. Zion Cemetery database. If you are having problems with
your searches, it might pay to take a look at it. The link to this page is
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/erc-scdb.htm .
If you are looking for all the burial entries for a certain surname without
exact knowledge of where they are buried, I would urge you to search all
four available cemetery databases, i.e. those of Mts. Zion, Hebron, Carmel
and Moriah. These databases combined contain information on over half a
million burials.
I am hoping that the searchable databases for Mts. Judah and Ararat will be
created and put online before the August conference. I will let you know
when they are.
As a side note, July 1st marked the one-year anniversary of my virtual
museum website. I am proud of what I have accomplished and am thankful to
all those who have graciously have helped me along the way. I have just
revamped many pages on my site and have added new ones. I hope that you like
what I have done. The best is yet to come.

Best regards,
Steve Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com


Cemetery database websites:
www.mounthebroncemetery.com
www.mountcarmelcemetery.com
www.mountzioncemetery.com
www.mountmoriahcemeteryofnewjersey.org


Searching the Mt. Zion Cemetery database #gdansk #germany #poland #danzig

Steven Lasky <steve725@...>
 

Greetings all,
I have created a page on my website that suggests the best ways to do a
search on the Mt. Zion Cemetery database. If you are having problems with
your searches, it might pay to take a look at it. The link to this page is
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/erc-scdb.htm .
If you are looking for all the burial entries for a certain surname without
exact knowledge of where they are buried, I would urge you to search all
four available cemetery databases, i.e. those of Mts. Zion, Hebron, Carmel
and Moriah. These databases combined contain information on over half a
million burials.
I am hoping that the searchable databases for Mts. Judah and Ararat will be
created and put online before the August conference. I will let you know
when they are.
As a side note, July 1st marked the one-year anniversary of my virtual
museum website. I am proud of what I have accomplished and am thankful to
all those who have graciously have helped me along the way. I have just
revamped many pages on my site and have added new ones. I hope that you like
what I have done. The best is yet to come.

Best regards,
Steve Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com


Cemetery database websites:
www.mounthebroncemetery.com
www.mountcarmelcemetery.com
www.mountzioncemetery.com
www.mountmoriahcemeteryofnewjersey.org


Danzig/Gedansk SIG #Danzig #Gdansk #Germany #Poland Searching the Mt. Zion Cemetery database #danzig #gdansk #germany #poland

Steven Lasky <steve725@...>
 

Greetings all,
I have created a page on my website that suggests the best ways to do a
search on the Mt. Zion Cemetery database. If you are having problems with
your searches, it might pay to take a look at it. The link to this page is
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/erc-scdb.htm .
If you are looking for all the burial entries for a certain surname without
exact knowledge of where they are buried, I would urge you to search all
four available cemetery databases, i.e. those of Mts. Zion, Hebron, Carmel
and Moriah. These databases combined contain information on over half a
million burials.
I am hoping that the searchable databases for Mts. Judah and Ararat will be
created and put online before the August conference. I will let you know
when they are.
As a side note, July 1st marked the one-year anniversary of my virtual
museum website. I am proud of what I have accomplished and am thankful to
all those who have graciously have helped me along the way. I have just
revamped many pages on my site and have added new ones. I hope that you like
what I have done. The best is yet to come.

Best regards,
Steve Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com


Cemetery database websites:
www.mounthebroncemetery.com
www.mountcarmelcemetery.com
www.mountzioncemetery.com
www.mountmoriahcemeteryofnewjersey.org


Re: 1900-era documents for immigration to USA #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

Passports and visa were not required to enter the US until the 1920s.

Prior to that you needed a ticket to get on the ship. If you were not in
good health, or were otherwise thought likely to become a public charge, you
could be refused entry upon arrival.

It would then be the responsibility of the shipping company to return you to
your port of origin (without further charge to you.) Since that was an
additional expense for the shipping company, they sometimes tried to check
people before letting them board their ships.

If you went Canada and did not declare the US as your destination, even the
US inspection might be avoided by landing in Canada, spending some time
there, perhaps traveling west, and entering the US at a land crossing.

--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY


"Joy Weaver" <joyweave@...> wrote

I hope that some of you out in "gen-land" are experts on documentation needed
for immigration. At the turn of the 20th century, what kind of documentation
would an immigrant actually have to provide in order to board a ship (and be
allowed to continue the voyage)? Name? Age? Occupation? Destination? Could
they falsify all of that?

Snip <
Joy Weaver


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1900-era documents for immigration to USA #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

Passports and visa were not required to enter the US until the 1920s.

Prior to that you needed a ticket to get on the ship. If you were not in
good health, or were otherwise thought likely to become a public charge, you
could be refused entry upon arrival.

It would then be the responsibility of the shipping company to return you to
your port of origin (without further charge to you.) Since that was an
additional expense for the shipping company, they sometimes tried to check
people before letting them board their ships.

If you went Canada and did not declare the US as your destination, even the
US inspection might be avoided by landing in Canada, spending some time
there, perhaps traveling west, and entering the US at a land crossing.

--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY


"Joy Weaver" <joyweave@...> wrote

I hope that some of you out in "gen-land" are experts on documentation needed
for immigration. At the turn of the 20th century, what kind of documentation
would an immigrant actually have to provide in order to board a ship (and be
allowed to continue the voyage)? Name? Age? Occupation? Destination? Could
they falsify all of that?

Snip <
Joy Weaver


Alice GOTTLIEB KUHNE #general

Harriet Rudnit <hrrose21@...>
 

I am trying to locate Alice Gottlieb Kuhne, who was born in Austria in
1911 and married to Rudolf Kuhne, or her descendants, The Kuhnes
came to Chicago >from Montevideo and were last living on Leland Avenue
in 1964. Please reply privately.

Harriet Rudnit, co-President
Jewish Genealogical Society of IL

Researching Bermann of Kaunas Gubernia, Gluckmann of Paneveys, Rudnicki
and Resnick of Vilnius Gubernia


Re: : Aid to finding addresses in the 1890 Police Census of NYC.. #general

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

Dear All,

In regard to the book mentioned earlier, "Aid to finding addresses in
the New York City Police Census of 1890...." by Howard M. Jensen,
published 2003 by Willow Bend Books, of Bowie, MD, ISBN # 1585498807:

This book is available in a number of Public Libraries around the US.
An Interlibrary Loan request at your closest Public Library should
provide a copy for you to use.

Rosanne Leeson
Reference Librarian


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Alice GOTTLIEB KUHNE #general

Harriet Rudnit <hrrose21@...>
 

I am trying to locate Alice Gottlieb Kuhne, who was born in Austria in
1911 and married to Rudolf Kuhne, or her descendants, The Kuhnes
came to Chicago >from Montevideo and were last living on Leland Avenue
in 1964. Please reply privately.

Harriet Rudnit, co-President
Jewish Genealogical Society of IL

Researching Bermann of Kaunas Gubernia, Gluckmann of Paneveys, Rudnicki
and Resnick of Vilnius Gubernia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE:: Aid to finding addresses in the 1890 Police Census of NYC.. #general

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

Dear All,

In regard to the book mentioned earlier, "Aid to finding addresses in
the New York City Police Census of 1890...." by Howard M. Jensen,
published 2003 by Willow Bend Books, of Bowie, MD, ISBN # 1585498807:

This book is available in a number of Public Libraries around the US.
An Interlibrary Loan request at your closest Public Library should
provide a copy for you to use.

Rosanne Leeson
Reference Librarian


Help with translating Yiddish on postcard #general

JNB <jnblank@...>
 

I have placed a postcard on ViewMate (VM 8103) and would much appreciate
help in translating the Yiddish text.

See: http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8103

The card was sent by my maternal grandfather, David MIRMOVITSCH, during
WW I - probably in 1916 - to my grandmother, living in Helsinki
(Helsingfors), Finland. My gf had been conscripted to the Russian army
in Finland and was sent with his unit to somewhere in Eastern Europe,
from where he sent this postcard.
I can read most of the text but I have problems identifying the place
names appearing in the firs 7-8 lines of the text.

The picture side of the same postcard with Russian and Polish text was
posted as VM 8102 - perhaps this might help in identifying the
localities mentioned :

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/thumbnail.asp?name=8102.jpg

I would much appreciate any help. Please answer privately to:
jnblank@...

Joel Blankett
Jerusalem, Israel
(formerly Helsinki, Finland)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help with translating Yiddish on postcard #general

JNB <jnblank@...>
 

I have placed a postcard on ViewMate (VM 8103) and would much appreciate
help in translating the Yiddish text.

See: http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8103

The card was sent by my maternal grandfather, David MIRMOVITSCH, during
WW I - probably in 1916 - to my grandmother, living in Helsinki
(Helsingfors), Finland. My gf had been conscripted to the Russian army
in Finland and was sent with his unit to somewhere in Eastern Europe,
from where he sent this postcard.
I can read most of the text but I have problems identifying the place
names appearing in the firs 7-8 lines of the text.

The picture side of the same postcard with Russian and Polish text was
posted as VM 8102 - perhaps this might help in identifying the
localities mentioned :

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/thumbnail.asp?name=8102.jpg

I would much appreciate any help. Please answer privately to:
jnblank@...

Joel Blankett
Jerusalem, Israel
(formerly Helsinki, Finland)