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Budapest archives - accessing on-line #hungary

VICKI VIGIL <vvigil987@...>
 

Hi all

I was thrilled to read the July 20 post regarding the
Budapest Archives and the possibility of searching the
1900 city directory at
www.bparchiv.hu/cgi-bin/lakas/lakas.pl

But after going to the website and clicking on the UK
flag I could not find the city directory. I typed in
"city directory" with and without the year 1900; then
tried using the hungarian word - which was something
like "telefonoky" (sorry can't find my notes at the
moment), but still no luck.

Would someone kindly explain the finer details for me
as I'm anxious to try my surnames.

Many thanks
Vicki Blum Vigil
Cleveland Ohio

searching; Blum/Bloom; Stein in Hungary/Belarus
Hungary SIG #Hungary Budapest archives - accessing on-line #hungary

VICKI VIGIL <vvigil987@...>
 

Hi all

I was thrilled to read the July 20 post regarding the
Budapest Archives and the possibility of searching the
1900 city directory at
www.bparchiv.hu/cgi-bin/lakas/lakas.pl

But after going to the website and clicking on the UK
flag I could not find the city directory. I typed in
"city directory" with and without the year 1900; then
tried using the hungarian word - which was something
like "telefonoky" (sorry can't find my notes at the
moment), but still no luck.

Would someone kindly explain the finer details for me
as I'm anxious to try my surnames.

Many thanks
Vicki Blum Vigil
Cleveland Ohio

searching; Blum/Bloom; Stein in Hungary/Belarus
Glinternik family #latvia

ilan C <ilan_e@...>
 

Hallo,

My name is Miron >from Israel, and I would like to use your services to get
information on the following family:

The GLINTERNIK family I think left the city Dvinks in Latvia at June 1940
and since Decemberv 1940 they lived in Riga.
They were struck off the house register on July 16 of 1941 with the note -
not known where.


Rachel GLINTERNIK (BD 5/6/1900 BP Dvinsk), Her father was Elia Hatzkel
SCHWEY (BD 13/11/1873 BP Dinaburg) and her mother was Hinda Frida SCHWEY
(BD 12/10/1877 BP Dinaburg).
Rachel hadat list two sons:
1) Boris GLINTERNIK (BD 26/1/1931 BP Daugavpils)
2) Samuel GLINTERNIK (BD 4/1/1939 BP Daugavpils)
I know that The husbAnd of Rachel and the father of the family kilLed by
the Natzis, his name was: Saul GLINTERNIK, DR. (BD 15/5/1900 BP Dvinsk)

Many Thanks,
Miron Levin, Israel
ilan_e@bezeqint.net
Latvia SIG #Latvia Glinternik family #latvia

ilan C <ilan_e@...>
 

Hallo,

My name is Miron >from Israel, and I would like to use your services to get
information on the following family:

The GLINTERNIK family I think left the city Dvinks in Latvia at June 1940
and since Decemberv 1940 they lived in Riga.
They were struck off the house register on July 16 of 1941 with the note -
not known where.


Rachel GLINTERNIK (BD 5/6/1900 BP Dvinsk), Her father was Elia Hatzkel
SCHWEY (BD 13/11/1873 BP Dinaburg) and her mother was Hinda Frida SCHWEY
(BD 12/10/1877 BP Dinaburg).
Rachel hadat list two sons:
1) Boris GLINTERNIK (BD 26/1/1931 BP Daugavpils)
2) Samuel GLINTERNIK (BD 4/1/1939 BP Daugavpils)
I know that The husbAnd of Rachel and the father of the family kilLed by
the Natzis, his name was: Saul GLINTERNIK, DR. (BD 15/5/1900 BP Dvinsk)

Many Thanks,
Miron Levin, Israel
ilan_e@bezeqint.net
Just $155 more needed for Terespol, Lubin PSA Project !! #poland

philafrum
 

Dear JRI-Poland readers,

At this point the Terespol, Lublin PSA campaign is within striking distance
of its goal of $1345 in order to access the PSA indexes. We currently need
only $155 in order to achieve success!!

We are looking forward to the completion of our project. Will all those
Terespolers who haven't yet responded to our appeal please do so as soon as
possible. Send your tax deductible contributions (of any amount) to:

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.
c/o Sheila Salo, Treasurer
5607 Greenleaf Road
Cheverly, MD 20785 USA

Telephone: (301) 341-1261
Fax: 1-810-592-1768 (24 hours)
E-Mail: ssalo@capaccess.org

Make your checks out to "Jewish Records Indexing -- Poland, Inc." with the
following notation: "Terespol PSA Project". Sheila can also accept credit
card donations by fax or phone.

Stay tuned for our next exciting announcement!

Evan Fishman
Town leader, Terespol PSA Project
JRI Poland #Poland Just $155 more needed for Terespol, Lubin PSA Project !! #poland

philafrum
 

Dear JRI-Poland readers,

At this point the Terespol, Lublin PSA campaign is within striking distance
of its goal of $1345 in order to access the PSA indexes. We currently need
only $155 in order to achieve success!!

We are looking forward to the completion of our project. Will all those
Terespolers who haven't yet responded to our appeal please do so as soon as
possible. Send your tax deductible contributions (of any amount) to:

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.
c/o Sheila Salo, Treasurer
5607 Greenleaf Road
Cheverly, MD 20785 USA

Telephone: (301) 341-1261
Fax: 1-810-592-1768 (24 hours)
E-Mail: ssalo@capaccess.org

Make your checks out to "Jewish Records Indexing -- Poland, Inc." with the
following notation: "Terespol PSA Project". Sheila can also accept credit
card donations by fax or phone.

Stay tuned for our next exciting announcement!

Evan Fishman
Town leader, Terespol PSA Project
Trakai 1858 Revision List #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

For those researchers interested in Trakai records, do not expect to find
the 1858 Revision List because it does not exist and probably never did
exist. According to Tsarist law, 1858 was a period during which Jews were
not allowed to live in Trakai.

Howard Margol
homargol@aol.com
www.pusalotas.org

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Howard is referring to the town of Trakai. Translations
of the 1858 revision list for other towns in the Trakai Uezd are available
in the All-Lithuania Database.
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Trakai 1858 Revision List #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

For those researchers interested in Trakai records, do not expect to find
the 1858 Revision List because it does not exist and probably never did
exist. According to Tsarist law, 1858 was a period during which Jews were
not allowed to live in Trakai.

Howard Margol
homargol@aol.com
www.pusalotas.org

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Howard is referring to the town of Trakai. Translations
of the 1858 revision list for other towns in the Trakai Uezd are available
in the All-Lithuania Database.
Researching the KREMENSTEIN (KREMENSZSTEJN) family #ukraine

Arnold Kremenstein <akremens@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I am (trying to) research the family of my father, JOSEPH KREMENSTEIN and
set out below all the information that I have:

Per Birth Certificate:
Born January 1898 in ALEXANDRIA (ALEKSANDRIYA), VOLHYNIA oblast.
Father, HAIM-BER GIRARIEVICH KREMENSTEIN, petty bourgeois of KORETSK
NOVOGRADVOLYNSKIJ administrative unit.
Mother, HAJA(KHAYA) ARONOVNA LIBERZON.
Circumcision by Rabbi LEIB YUKELZON (UKELSON)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Gf was the manager of a sugar refinery in MIZOCH (MIZOCZ) and lived in
ROVNO(RIVNE).

Father, who was educated at the ODESSA GYMNASIUM(?), went to study and live
in FRANCE in the 1920s. He had an older sister, HELENA who was married to
JACOB GOLDBARG and they two sons, ARIK and .....?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Gf had a sister ESTER KREMENSTEIN born in ALEXANDRIA who married HUDEL
BALTZAN and they lived in KISHINEV, LAPUSNA BESSARABIA, ROMANIA. They died
in the KISHINEV GHETTO. They had three children, HAYIM, HANOCH(KHANOKH),
and EMIMA(spelling?). The children emigrated to ISRAEL before the war.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
I found out, by chance, about BERTHA LEIBISHEVNA KREMENSTEIN, a professor
at the GNEISSIN Music Academy, MOSCOW. Her son PAVEL LIBERMAN told me that:
She was born in 1923, father LEIBISH SCHMUL-ITSKOVITCH(LEV ISAAKOVITCH)
KREMENSTEIN lived all his life in KIEV and was a professor of mathematics.
Her gf, ISAAK(SCHMUL-ITSEK)KREMENSTEIN was born in KREMENSTS, married
AGNESSA DAVYDOVNA SPEKTOR and they went to live in STAROKONSTANTINOV in
KHMELNITSKYJ oblast. AGNESSA was shot at BABIJ YAR, KIEV, in September 1941.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
BERTHA K cannot see any connection between the KREMENSTEINs >from ROVNO
oblast and the others.

Thank you in advance for any information, advice, suugestions, etc., etc.,

Yours sincerely

ARNOLD KREMENSTEIN
MAIDENHEAD
ENGLAND
Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Researching the KREMENSTEIN (KREMENSZSTEJN) family #ukraine

Arnold Kremenstein <akremens@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I am (trying to) research the family of my father, JOSEPH KREMENSTEIN and
set out below all the information that I have:

Per Birth Certificate:
Born January 1898 in ALEXANDRIA (ALEKSANDRIYA), VOLHYNIA oblast.
Father, HAIM-BER GIRARIEVICH KREMENSTEIN, petty bourgeois of KORETSK
NOVOGRADVOLYNSKIJ administrative unit.
Mother, HAJA(KHAYA) ARONOVNA LIBERZON.
Circumcision by Rabbi LEIB YUKELZON (UKELSON)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Gf was the manager of a sugar refinery in MIZOCH (MIZOCZ) and lived in
ROVNO(RIVNE).

Father, who was educated at the ODESSA GYMNASIUM(?), went to study and live
in FRANCE in the 1920s. He had an older sister, HELENA who was married to
JACOB GOLDBARG and they two sons, ARIK and .....?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Gf had a sister ESTER KREMENSTEIN born in ALEXANDRIA who married HUDEL
BALTZAN and they lived in KISHINEV, LAPUSNA BESSARABIA, ROMANIA. They died
in the KISHINEV GHETTO. They had three children, HAYIM, HANOCH(KHANOKH),
and EMIMA(spelling?). The children emigrated to ISRAEL before the war.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
I found out, by chance, about BERTHA LEIBISHEVNA KREMENSTEIN, a professor
at the GNEISSIN Music Academy, MOSCOW. Her son PAVEL LIBERMAN told me that:
She was born in 1923, father LEIBISH SCHMUL-ITSKOVITCH(LEV ISAAKOVITCH)
KREMENSTEIN lived all his life in KIEV and was a professor of mathematics.
Her gf, ISAAK(SCHMUL-ITSEK)KREMENSTEIN was born in KREMENSTS, married
AGNESSA DAVYDOVNA SPEKTOR and they went to live in STAROKONSTANTINOV in
KHMELNITSKYJ oblast. AGNESSA was shot at BABIJ YAR, KIEV, in September 1941.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
BERTHA K cannot see any connection between the KREMENSTEINs >from ROVNO
oblast and the others.

Thank you in advance for any information, advice, suugestions, etc., etc.,

Yours sincerely

ARNOLD KREMENSTEIN
MAIDENHEAD
ENGLAND
Re: Zloczow Nigun Sought #rabbinic

Nachum Tuchman
 

On 2006.07.13, Joyce Field <jfield@nlci.com> wrote:

I have been asked by Meylakh Sheykhet >from Lviv, Ukraine, to inquire
about a Nigun. This is his message to me:

The niggun sought is probably the one that the Baal Shem Tov loved,
and asked R' Yechiel Michel to sing to him on his deathbed.

I too would love to learn it. I did hear it once, and wasn't
especially moved by it, but I only heard a few seconds of the nigun.
I know that Chabadnikim sing the nigun. Perhaps Joyce can ask at the
closest Chabad house to teach it to her, or help her find a recording
of it.

Nachum Tuchman
Tekoa, Israel
Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Zloczow Nigun Sought #rabbinic

Nachum Tuchman
 

On 2006.07.13, Joyce Field <jfield@nlci.com> wrote:

I have been asked by Meylakh Sheykhet >from Lviv, Ukraine, to inquire
about a Nigun. This is his message to me:

The niggun sought is probably the one that the Baal Shem Tov loved,
and asked R' Yechiel Michel to sing to him on his deathbed.

I too would love to learn it. I did hear it once, and wasn't
especially moved by it, but I only heard a few seconds of the nigun.
I know that Chabadnikim sing the nigun. Perhaps Joyce can ask at the
closest Chabad house to teach it to her, or help her find a recording
of it.

Nachum Tuchman
Tekoa, Israel
Re: questioning the "cohen gene" #dna

susana mead <shofar-1@...>
 

On 2006.07.14, Debbie Katz <dkbk@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

As it happens, I have three lineages (one J1f and two J2*) with
the CMH... although only one retained a tradition of cohanim descent.
(one of the J2*s)
Shabbat shalom, Debbie,

Could you clarify for me how can one have two haplogroups? I was under
the impression one only have one (mine is J for instance). You mentioned
having J1 and J2. Also, is the CMH only found among the J?

Shoshana Mead
Sender: Susana Mead <shofar-1@hotmail.com>
DNA Research #DNA RE: questioning the "cohen gene" #dna

susana mead <shofar-1@...>
 

On 2006.07.14, Debbie Katz <dkbk@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

As it happens, I have three lineages (one J1f and two J2*) with
the CMH... although only one retained a tradition of cohanim descent.
(one of the J2*s)
Shabbat shalom, Debbie,

Could you clarify for me how can one have two haplogroups? I was under
the impression one only have one (mine is J for instance). You mentioned
having J1 and J2. Also, is the CMH only found among the J?

Shoshana Mead
Sender: Susana Mead <shofar-1@hotmail.com>
Parents' DNA Tests #dna

L A <lisala7366@...>
 

Is there any easy answer to the type of genealogic
information I will learn by having my parents DNA
checked?

Thank You
Lisa Arnett
DNA Research #DNA Parents' DNA Tests #dna

L A <lisala7366@...>
 

Is there any easy answer to the type of genealogic
information I will learn by having my parents DNA
checked?

Thank You
Lisa Arnett
Re: questioning the "cohen gene" #dna

Joan Hartman <joanhartman@...>
 

Thanks for responding. Just to clarify, currently, Jews are mostly found
in haplogroup J. As I understand it, a haplogroup is defined as a pattern
of Y chromosomes that shares a unique mutation(s) but varies in the number
of copies of short sequences of bases that are inherited together. As I
understand it (and I am no scientist), haplogroup J is differentiated >from
other haplogroups by one mutation ("M304") . Haplogroup J is in turn
divided into two sub-haplogroups, J1 and J2. Sub-haplogroup J1 is defined
by another mutation ("M267"). Subhaplogroup J2 is defined by yet a third
mutation ("M172") Apparently the current thinking is that J1 and J2
separated well over 10,000 years ago. What I am trying to understand is
how, >from a scientific and genetic perspective, the cohen modal haplotype
-- which is just a pattern of six defined regions of DNA containing a set
number of copies of short sequences of bases which are inherited together
-- could have independently developed among a tribe of proto-priests who
fall into two completely different sub-haplogroups, J1 and J2, each of
which is over 10,000 years old. Unless I completely misunderstand the
science, the odds of this happening seem very small. (And if the cohen
modal haplotype predates the J1/J2 split, wouldn't we find it more widely
distributed in the population?) Even if you were to assume that this
random pattern could have arisen at the same time, 3500 years ago, in two
such men among the group of proto-priests of which Aaron was a member, how
could we then explain the fact that a far greater percentage of the
population of a region of southern Anatolia (12%) has the cohen modal
haplotype than do Jews?

Joan Hartman
Sender: Joan Hartman <joanhartman@ameritech.net>
DNA Research #DNA Re: questioning the "cohen gene" #dna

Joan Hartman <joanhartman@...>
 

Thanks for responding. Just to clarify, currently, Jews are mostly found
in haplogroup J. As I understand it, a haplogroup is defined as a pattern
of Y chromosomes that shares a unique mutation(s) but varies in the number
of copies of short sequences of bases that are inherited together. As I
understand it (and I am no scientist), haplogroup J is differentiated >from
other haplogroups by one mutation ("M304") . Haplogroup J is in turn
divided into two sub-haplogroups, J1 and J2. Sub-haplogroup J1 is defined
by another mutation ("M267"). Subhaplogroup J2 is defined by yet a third
mutation ("M172") Apparently the current thinking is that J1 and J2
separated well over 10,000 years ago. What I am trying to understand is
how, >from a scientific and genetic perspective, the cohen modal haplotype
-- which is just a pattern of six defined regions of DNA containing a set
number of copies of short sequences of bases which are inherited together
-- could have independently developed among a tribe of proto-priests who
fall into two completely different sub-haplogroups, J1 and J2, each of
which is over 10,000 years old. Unless I completely misunderstand the
science, the odds of this happening seem very small. (And if the cohen
modal haplotype predates the J1/J2 split, wouldn't we find it more widely
distributed in the population?) Even if you were to assume that this
random pattern could have arisen at the same time, 3500 years ago, in two
such men among the group of proto-priests of which Aaron was a member, how
could we then explain the fact that a far greater percentage of the
population of a region of southern Anatolia (12%) has the cohen modal
haplotype than do Jews?

Joan Hartman
Sender: Joan Hartman <joanhartman@ameritech.net>
Re: questioning the "cohen gene" #dna

CherylSimani <cherylsimani@...>
 

Have you read this article?
http://www.jogg.info/11/coffman.htm
It is an interesting summary. However, keep in mind
that this a new and dynamic field of study.

Cheryl Simani
Sender: CherylSimani <cherylsimani@yahoo.com>
DNA Research #DNA Re: questioning the "cohen gene" #dna

CherylSimani <cherylsimani@...>
 

Have you read this article?
http://www.jogg.info/11/coffman.htm
It is an interesting summary. However, keep in mind
that this a new and dynamic field of study.

Cheryl Simani
Sender: CherylSimani <cherylsimani@yahoo.com>
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