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Re: How to Identify Time Period on Photographs #general

Peter J E Brunning <peter@...>
 

I haven't done much of this but have seen articles about it.
These two sites look helpful:
http://www.costumes.org/history/100pages/photodating.htm
http://www.photosmadeperfect.com/Photo%20Dating%20images/Photo%20Dating%20Pages/photodatingfashion.htm
[or http://tinyurl.com/j6tov -- Mod.]

Peter Brunning
Cambridge, England
peter@brunning.org.uk
http://www.brunning47.demon.co.uk/peter.html

"Carolyn Lea" <clea@woh.rr.com> wrote

I have a book on the history of photography but am wondering if anyone can
recommend a book that is helpful in dating an image based on fashion?


Re: Expulsion of Jews from Galician front lines to Russia 1915 #general

Mel Comisarow <melcom@...>
 

There is some information about expulsion of Jews >from Lithuania to
Ukraine circa 1914 in the book Mendel's Children by Cherie Smith, ISBN
1-895176-85-9. These Jews were traders who had German suppliers and
customers, hence the suspicion of the Tsarist regime.

Mel Comisarow
Vancovuer BC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: How to Identify Time Period on Photographs #general

Peter J E Brunning <peter@...>
 

I haven't done much of this but have seen articles about it.
These two sites look helpful:
http://www.costumes.org/history/100pages/photodating.htm
http://www.photosmadeperfect.com/Photo%20Dating%20images/Photo%20Dating%20Pages/photodatingfashion.htm
[or http://tinyurl.com/j6tov -- Mod.]

Peter Brunning
Cambridge, England
peter@brunning.org.uk
http://www.brunning47.demon.co.uk/peter.html

"Carolyn Lea" <clea@woh.rr.com> wrote

I have a book on the history of photography but am wondering if anyone can
recommend a book that is helpful in dating an image based on fashion?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Expulsion of Jews from Galician front lines to Russia 1915 #general

Mel Comisarow <melcom@...>
 

There is some information about expulsion of Jews >from Lithuania to
Ukraine circa 1914 in the book Mendel's Children by Cherie Smith, ISBN
1-895176-85-9. These Jews were traders who had German suppliers and
customers, hence the suspicion of the Tsarist regime.

Mel Comisarow
Vancovuer BC


Golden Ducks that walk made for the tzar #general

Evelyn Filippi
 

Hi All
.First I would again like to thank all the many people that have
taken the time to help me. i have added many names to my tree and am in
touch with people i never knew existed.I must have has over 30 responses
and special thanks to Heshel again and again .
I have not had much time lately to work on my tree. But i have been seeing
letters about the court in vienna. My mothers family were among other
things in gold and jewery and designers and my grandfather or
greatgrandfather made golden ducks that walked for the tzar. My mothers
family were >from Nadworner and Stansislwow and Hungry and then moved to
Vienna . My mother told me when she was a child she could make a
watch >from scratch As a child she was given a piece of thread with 7
knots in it and if she could take out the knots she could do anything and
she did. Anyway i have been thinking of asking the room for anything they can
think of to find out about the golden ducks or anybody that had
connection with the court and worked in gold and maybe find more family
which is my main interst The families names on my mothers side were Bergler
Brandner Hass Mausner Seidenwerk and Schneider Banner Dolleng which i am
researching and hoping to find more. After the war my uncle had a jewelery
store in Belguim and his daughter worked with gold in Vienna and without
even knowing that the golden gene seems to run in our family my
daughter worked also in a jewlery store.
Anyway thank you again in advance. Preety soon i will have more people
helping me then i have in my tree.
Evelyn Filippi
Manhattan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Golden Ducks that walk made for the tzar #general

Evelyn Filippi
 

Hi All
.First I would again like to thank all the many people that have
taken the time to help me. i have added many names to my tree and am in
touch with people i never knew existed.I must have has over 30 responses
and special thanks to Heshel again and again .
I have not had much time lately to work on my tree. But i have been seeing
letters about the court in vienna. My mothers family were among other
things in gold and jewery and designers and my grandfather or
greatgrandfather made golden ducks that walked for the tzar. My mothers
family were >from Nadworner and Stansislwow and Hungry and then moved to
Vienna . My mother told me when she was a child she could make a
watch >from scratch As a child she was given a piece of thread with 7
knots in it and if she could take out the knots she could do anything and
she did. Anyway i have been thinking of asking the room for anything they can
think of to find out about the golden ducks or anybody that had
connection with the court and worked in gold and maybe find more family
which is my main interst The families names on my mothers side were Bergler
Brandner Hass Mausner Seidenwerk and Schneider Banner Dolleng which i am
researching and hoping to find more. After the war my uncle had a jewelery
store in Belguim and his daughter worked with gold in Vienna and without
even knowing that the golden gene seems to run in our family my
daughter worked also in a jewlery store.
Anyway thank you again in advance. Preety soon i will have more people
helping me then i have in my tree.
Evelyn Filippi
Manhattan


How do you spell that city's name? #general

Philip D. Roos
 

I looked for the last names of Cohen, Levy and Levie in a city with 3
names: (1) The Hague (2) Den Haag (3) 's Gravenhage. There are almost no
"Levy's" in the database. Over 94% of Cohens and Levies were listed in "The
Hague" and almost all the rest were in "Den Haag."

My grandmother's family register (in Dutch of course) uses "Den Haag"
and "'s Gravenhage" interchangeably. I decided to stick to the former.

I also decided to stick with the Dutch spellings of Province names:
'Noord Holland' instead of 'North Holland' for example but to use
'Netherlands' rather than 'Nederland' for the country's name.


pre 1906 naturalization records #general

Robert Corwin <robert@...>
 

According to the Jewishgen FAQ:
"For a few regions of the country, comprehensive indexes to pre-1906
naturalization records were prepared by the WPA in the 1930s: New
England (all 6 states, 1790-1906) [LDS microfilms]. New York City
(all 5 boroughs, 1790-1906) [LDS microfilms]."

"These card indexes are at the National Archives, and are also
available on microfilm through all LDS Family History Centers."

Can anyone tell me which of the National Archives regional offices
the New England and NY indexes are available at?

Also, according to the FAQ: "Naturalization records >from most
Federal courts are now located at the National Archives regional
branches."

Does this mean the 1906 New England records are available at any NARA
regional office, or only the New England office?

Many thanks,

Robert Corwin

Philadelphia


Researching KREMENETSKY/KENNER and BECKERMAN >from Berezno/Kremenets/
Odessa, LITTMAN and KRAVIATSKY >from Proshnits, COHEN >from London/
Vilna, ARONSON and FRIEDMAN >from Kalvarija.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen How do you spell that city's name? #general

Philip D. Roos
 

I looked for the last names of Cohen, Levy and Levie in a city with 3
names: (1) The Hague (2) Den Haag (3) 's Gravenhage. There are almost no
"Levy's" in the database. Over 94% of Cohens and Levies were listed in "The
Hague" and almost all the rest were in "Den Haag."

My grandmother's family register (in Dutch of course) uses "Den Haag"
and "'s Gravenhage" interchangeably. I decided to stick to the former.

I also decided to stick with the Dutch spellings of Province names:
'Noord Holland' instead of 'North Holland' for example but to use
'Netherlands' rather than 'Nederland' for the country's name.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen pre 1906 naturalization records #general

Robert Corwin <robert@...>
 

According to the Jewishgen FAQ:
"For a few regions of the country, comprehensive indexes to pre-1906
naturalization records were prepared by the WPA in the 1930s: New
England (all 6 states, 1790-1906) [LDS microfilms]. New York City
(all 5 boroughs, 1790-1906) [LDS microfilms]."

"These card indexes are at the National Archives, and are also
available on microfilm through all LDS Family History Centers."

Can anyone tell me which of the National Archives regional offices
the New England and NY indexes are available at?

Also, according to the FAQ: "Naturalization records >from most
Federal courts are now located at the National Archives regional
branches."

Does this mean the 1906 New England records are available at any NARA
regional office, or only the New England office?

Many thanks,

Robert Corwin

Philadelphia


Researching KREMENETSKY/KENNER and BECKERMAN >from Berezno/Kremenets/
Odessa, LITTMAN and KRAVIATSKY >from Proshnits, COHEN >from London/
Vilna, ARONSON and FRIEDMAN >from Kalvarija.


The old Munkacs/Mukachevo cemetery #hungary

Amos Israel Zezmer <amos.zezmer@...>
 

Does anyone have concise news on the fate of Munkács' (Mukachevo's) old
Jewish cemetery?
It seems like the old cemetery was "dismantled" to make way for more
housing, and unless the old graves were moved by those interested to the
new cemetery, they "disappeared."
Any help is greatly appreciated.

Amos Zezmer
Yerres, France


Hungary SIG #Hungary The old Munkacs/Mukachevo cemetery #hungary

Amos Israel Zezmer <amos.zezmer@...>
 

Does anyone have concise news on the fate of Munkács' (Mukachevo's) old
Jewish cemetery?
It seems like the old cemetery was "dismantled" to make way for more
housing, and unless the old graves were moved by those interested to the
new cemetery, they "disappeared."
Any help is greatly appreciated.

Amos Zezmer
Yerres, France


Re: www.oroklet.hu question #hungary

d pfalzer <d_pfalzer@...>
 

You are correct that the page doesn't scroll. The
best solution I found in search for my Morgensterns
was to search for "Morgenstern J" to allow me to see
those folks of surname Morgenstern and first name
beginning with "J". This gave me the "Ja" names. To
see a name like Juli, I searched for "Morgenstern Ju".

Hope this helps.

--- wendy cantor <cassatt222@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hello All,

When I looked at this site, I was unable to scroll
the page up or down.
Consequently I was unable to see all of the info on
the page. No 'arrows'
on the page that I could see and my my page up and
keyboard arrows didn't
work! What am I missing? I did find that I could
right click and highlight
the page which improved the contrast greatly.

Thanks for any help.

Wendy Dobo
Cleveland, OH
Researching: DOBO (changed >from GOLDSTEIN),
STAMBERGER, REICH/ SZIKSZO,
MEZOKOMAROM, MISKOLC

Moderator: Check the H-SIG archives for messages
that provided detailed info on how to navigate this
website.


Re: www.oroklet.hu question #hungary

sinespam@...
 

Which Web browser are you using? Although I prefer Firefox, I think I had similar problems until I switched to Internet Explorer. (I'm not sure I always had the scroll bars in IE, either; it's been a couple of days since I tried.)

In any case, if you don't have scroll bars, another option is to select some text on the page; then (keeping the mouse button down) "drag" all the way down to the bottom of the window. The text should start scrolling up >from the bottom as you do this. (And of course, you can scroll up the same way.)

-- Dan Breslau
Boston area, MA

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "wendy cantor" <cassatt222@hotmail.com>
Hello All,

When I looked at this site, I was unable to scroll the page up or down.
Consequently I was unable to see all of the info on the page. No 'arrows'
on the page that I could see and my my page up and keyboard arrows didn't
work! What am I missing? I did find that I could right click and highlight
the page which improved the contrast greatly.
--
Searching:
BRESLAU/BRESLOVSKI (Belarus/Latvia/Poland);
COHEN, KANAREK(?), MICHAELSKI(?) (Poland);
SCHREIBER, GRAD, ROSENBAUM, DEUTSCH, GLUCK, NEUVOHNER, TIRMAN,
WEISSBURG, KESTENBAUM, ROSENBERG, ADLER, FRISCH, BREUER (Hungary);
LANDAU, GOTTLIEB, BECKER (Ukraine)


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: www.oroklet.hu question #hungary

d pfalzer <d_pfalzer@...>
 

You are correct that the page doesn't scroll. The
best solution I found in search for my Morgensterns
was to search for "Morgenstern J" to allow me to see
those folks of surname Morgenstern and first name
beginning with "J". This gave me the "Ja" names. To
see a name like Juli, I searched for "Morgenstern Ju".

Hope this helps.

--- wendy cantor <cassatt222@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hello All,

When I looked at this site, I was unable to scroll
the page up or down.
Consequently I was unable to see all of the info on
the page. No 'arrows'
on the page that I could see and my my page up and
keyboard arrows didn't
work! What am I missing? I did find that I could
right click and highlight
the page which improved the contrast greatly.

Thanks for any help.

Wendy Dobo
Cleveland, OH
Researching: DOBO (changed >from GOLDSTEIN),
STAMBERGER, REICH/ SZIKSZO,
MEZOKOMAROM, MISKOLC

Moderator: Check the H-SIG archives for messages
that provided detailed info on how to navigate this
website.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: www.oroklet.hu question #hungary

sinespam@...
 

Which Web browser are you using? Although I prefer Firefox, I think I had similar problems until I switched to Internet Explorer. (I'm not sure I always had the scroll bars in IE, either; it's been a couple of days since I tried.)

In any case, if you don't have scroll bars, another option is to select some text on the page; then (keeping the mouse button down) "drag" all the way down to the bottom of the window. The text should start scrolling up >from the bottom as you do this. (And of course, you can scroll up the same way.)

-- Dan Breslau
Boston area, MA

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "wendy cantor" <cassatt222@hotmail.com>
Hello All,

When I looked at this site, I was unable to scroll the page up or down.
Consequently I was unable to see all of the info on the page. No 'arrows'
on the page that I could see and my my page up and keyboard arrows didn't
work! What am I missing? I did find that I could right click and highlight
the page which improved the contrast greatly.
--
Searching:
BRESLAU/BRESLOVSKI (Belarus/Latvia/Poland);
COHEN, KANAREK(?), MICHAELSKI(?) (Poland);
SCHREIBER, GRAD, ROSENBAUM, DEUTSCH, GLUCK, NEUVOHNER, TIRMAN,
WEISSBURG, KESTENBAUM, ROSENBERG, ADLER, FRISCH, BREUER (Hungary);
LANDAU, GOTTLIEB, BECKER (Ukraine)


Re: Determining "Jewish" Identity Through DNA Testing #dna

Sean M. Silver <sean_silver@...>
 

On 2006.07.20, Yisrael Asper <yisraelasper@comcast.net> wrote:

DNA testing can hopefully reveal whether it is likely that you have
Jewish ancestry. However, individuals who belong to any haplogroup
cannot simply on that basis be certain of having Jewish ancestry,
much less identify themselves as Jews.
There also has been recent research, as well as new FTDNA projects,
that have brought to light other haplogroups which focus on Jews who
are not YDNA haplogroup J. There have been several points in Jewish
history where admixture was possible, but there's also the chance that
at any time during the formation of the ancient Hebrews that others
might've become part of the Jewish people.

After all, Abraham traveled to what is now modern day Turkey, where
there seems to be strong evidence of an Eastern R1b that might well be
the predecessor of Western R1b by thousands of years. My own project
focuses on R1b of Jews who have a definitive (and uninterrupted)
history of Judaism. To boot, six out of my group are Kohanim.

As Yisrael said, though, the only thing which proves you are Jewish
is your faith. Some of the most devout Jews I've met are actually
converts who felt an affinity for the religion. I, myself, am one of
those Kohanim I mentioned in my project. Results of R1b surprised the
heck out of me, but I've turned it into a personal calling which has
resulted in theories and explanations I never could have imagined.
Also, several scholars and scientists have also become interested in
my search as well.

Sean Silver


DNA Research #DNA RE: Determining "Jewish" Identity Through DNA Testing #dna

Sean M. Silver <sean_silver@...>
 

On 2006.07.20, Yisrael Asper <yisraelasper@comcast.net> wrote:

DNA testing can hopefully reveal whether it is likely that you have
Jewish ancestry. However, individuals who belong to any haplogroup
cannot simply on that basis be certain of having Jewish ancestry,
much less identify themselves as Jews.
There also has been recent research, as well as new FTDNA projects,
that have brought to light other haplogroups which focus on Jews who
are not YDNA haplogroup J. There have been several points in Jewish
history where admixture was possible, but there's also the chance that
at any time during the formation of the ancient Hebrews that others
might've become part of the Jewish people.

After all, Abraham traveled to what is now modern day Turkey, where
there seems to be strong evidence of an Eastern R1b that might well be
the predecessor of Western R1b by thousands of years. My own project
focuses on R1b of Jews who have a definitive (and uninterrupted)
history of Judaism. To boot, six out of my group are Kohanim.

As Yisrael said, though, the only thing which proves you are Jewish
is your faith. Some of the most devout Jews I've met are actually
converts who felt an affinity for the religion. I, myself, am one of
those Kohanim I mentioned in my project. Results of R1b surprised the
heck out of me, but I've turned it into a personal calling which has
resulted in theories and explanations I never could have imagined.
Also, several scholars and scientists have also become interested in
my search as well.

Sean Silver


Re: FTDNA Surname Projects - Are you in one? #dna

Sean M. Silver <sean_silver@...>
 

On 2006.07.23, Elise Friedman <elisejg@comcast.net> wrote:

[...] joining the Jewish Heritage Project is a good idea for an
overall study of Jewish ancestry. This project, among other large
Jewish studies [...]
As Elise mentioned, there actually are more than a few projects
exploring Jewish genealogy. My suggestion would be that if you had any
questions, to contact Bennett Greenspan at FTDNA, who is an extremely
friendly gentleman who has been an incredible help to me with my own
project.

My project actually focuses on R1b Jews who have a definitive history
of Jewish lineage without conversion. This project started out in
March and most assumptions circled around recent conversions,
intermarriage or other such admixtures.

_However_, fifty members later we seem to have found evidence that
might support less admixture that we'd thought. Rather, all but two of
our members have no matches (past Y12) in Western Europe, and actually
have several matches in the Middle East (especially Turkey and
Armenia), Spain, Portugal and South America.

Evidence >from research papers seems to hint of an Eastern R1b that was
the progenitor of Western R1b. Furthermore, recent results >from Deep
Clade tests and DYS markers might well hint at ancient origins with
the Jewish people. Most of this comes >from loose theories backed by
educated hypothesis and what evidence we've found in our markers, but
it's been enough that FTDNA and some leading scientists are quite
interested in our project. There is a good chance that we might find
something of true significance outside of presumed admixture in the
1400s, middle ages, Roman times or what have you.

Additionally, 6 out of our 20 DYS393=12 R1bs, 393=12 being a rare
result >from a _very_ slow mutating marker that seems to find its
origins in Anatolia (modern day Turkey) and the near Middle East,
happen to have an oral history of being Kohanim. Furthermore, our
project is almost evenly split between 393=12 and 393=13, though even
our 393=13s have little or no matches in Western Europe.

Just thought I'd offer my own plug as well as something of interest!

Sean Silver
R1b Jewish project administrator
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/JewishR1b


DNA Research #DNA RE: FTDNA Surname Projects - Are you in one? #dna

Sean M. Silver <sean_silver@...>
 

On 2006.07.23, Elise Friedman <elisejg@comcast.net> wrote:

[...] joining the Jewish Heritage Project is a good idea for an
overall study of Jewish ancestry. This project, among other large
Jewish studies [...]
As Elise mentioned, there actually are more than a few projects
exploring Jewish genealogy. My suggestion would be that if you had any
questions, to contact Bennett Greenspan at FTDNA, who is an extremely
friendly gentleman who has been an incredible help to me with my own
project.

My project actually focuses on R1b Jews who have a definitive history
of Jewish lineage without conversion. This project started out in
March and most assumptions circled around recent conversions,
intermarriage or other such admixtures.

_However_, fifty members later we seem to have found evidence that
might support less admixture that we'd thought. Rather, all but two of
our members have no matches (past Y12) in Western Europe, and actually
have several matches in the Middle East (especially Turkey and
Armenia), Spain, Portugal and South America.

Evidence >from research papers seems to hint of an Eastern R1b that was
the progenitor of Western R1b. Furthermore, recent results >from Deep
Clade tests and DYS markers might well hint at ancient origins with
the Jewish people. Most of this comes >from loose theories backed by
educated hypothesis and what evidence we've found in our markers, but
it's been enough that FTDNA and some leading scientists are quite
interested in our project. There is a good chance that we might find
something of true significance outside of presumed admixture in the
1400s, middle ages, Roman times or what have you.

Additionally, 6 out of our 20 DYS393=12 R1bs, 393=12 being a rare
result >from a _very_ slow mutating marker that seems to find its
origins in Anatolia (modern day Turkey) and the near Middle East,
happen to have an oral history of being Kohanim. Furthermore, our
project is almost evenly split between 393=12 and 393=13, though even
our 393=13s have little or no matches in Western Europe.

Just thought I'd offer my own plug as well as something of interest!

Sean Silver
R1b Jewish project administrator
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/JewishR1b