1. main@groups.jewishgen.org
   Date   
Research in your Spam catcher - follow-up #general

Irwin S. Alpern
 

I must follow-up on the below message and state in spite of the spam
filter and that I did not register, the individual did read the message and
did send a thank you. The information I furnished was on target and did
furnish the individual with the family members they were looking for.

I still must note that if you are looking for help in any research, It is best
that you not require a registration or any other additional effort by the
volunteer. If you wish to use a spam filter, than *you* should expend the
extra effort and review the items in your spam folder or use a different
address that is used only for your research and not require the volunteer
to do more than they have already done.

Irwin S. Alpern
Metro Detroit, Michigan

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send any further messages about spam filters
privately. Extended discussion of matters not related to genealogy is
offtopic in this forum.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Research in your Spam catcher - follow-up #general

Irwin S. Alpern
 

I must follow-up on the below message and state in spite of the spam
filter and that I did not register, the individual did read the message and
did send a thank you. The information I furnished was on target and did
furnish the individual with the family members they were looking for.

I still must note that if you are looking for help in any research, It is best
that you not require a registration or any other additional effort by the
volunteer. If you wish to use a spam filter, than *you* should expend the
extra effort and review the items in your spam folder or use a different
address that is used only for your research and not require the volunteer
to do more than they have already done.

Irwin S. Alpern
Metro Detroit, Michigan

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send any further messages about spam filters
privately. Extended discussion of matters not related to genealogy is
offtopic in this forum.
Re: How do I obtain my parents New York City School Records #general

Joy Rich <joyrichny@...>
 

Leonard, this information was provided to me by the Office of Community
Relations in December 2005 in preparation for the 2006 IAJGS Conference on
Jewish Genealogy in New York City.

To request school records of former students of the New York City public
schools, contact the school last attended. If that school no longer exists,
contact the region that covers the district in which the school was located.
Information about regions and corresponding districts can be found on the DOE
website at
http://schools.nyc.gov/OurSchools/default.htm . Click on the region for the
neighborhood your parents lived in to get the name and mailing address of the
regional superintendent.

The student cumulative education record file ("Permanent Record Card") is
supposed to be retained permanently. Although the regulations state that, the
records are often not kept or are not available.

Requests can be made by postal mail only.

Joy Rich
Brooklyn, NY

---

I am trying to obtain copies of my parents school records. They attended the
New York City schools between 1910 and 1920. The NYC Dept. of Education website
has been of no help. Does anyone have suggestions as to how to obtain these
records? Or, if they can be obtained.

Leonard Shaw
Binghamton, NY
lenshaw@yahoo.com
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: How do I obtain my parents New York City School Records #general

Joy Rich <joyrichny@...>
 

Leonard, this information was provided to me by the Office of Community
Relations in December 2005 in preparation for the 2006 IAJGS Conference on
Jewish Genealogy in New York City.

To request school records of former students of the New York City public
schools, contact the school last attended. If that school no longer exists,
contact the region that covers the district in which the school was located.
Information about regions and corresponding districts can be found on the DOE
website at
http://schools.nyc.gov/OurSchools/default.htm . Click on the region for the
neighborhood your parents lived in to get the name and mailing address of the
regional superintendent.

The student cumulative education record file ("Permanent Record Card") is
supposed to be retained permanently. Although the regulations state that, the
records are often not kept or are not available.

Requests can be made by postal mail only.

Joy Rich
Brooklyn, NY

---

I am trying to obtain copies of my parents school records. They attended the
New York City schools between 1910 and 1920. The NYC Dept. of Education website
has been of no help. Does anyone have suggestions as to how to obtain these
records? Or, if they can be obtained.

Leonard Shaw
Binghamton, NY
lenshaw@yahoo.com
Re: Jews in Central and South AMerica #general

Joy Rich <joyrichny@...>
 

Contact information for Jewish genealogical societies in Argentina and Venezuela
is on the IAJGS website at http://iajgs.org/Member-Index.htm .

Joy Rich
Brooklyn, NY

---

Subject: Re: Jews in Central and South AMerica

Does anyone know to contact any Jewish Communities in these areas?
Thank You,
Lisa Arnett nee Golden Philadelphia Suburbs
Sender: L A <lisala7366@yahoo.com>
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jews in Central and South AMerica #general

Joy Rich <joyrichny@...>
 

Contact information for Jewish genealogical societies in Argentina and Venezuela
is on the IAJGS website at http://iajgs.org/Member-Index.htm .

Joy Rich
Brooklyn, NY

---

Subject: Re: Jews in Central and South AMerica

Does anyone know to contact any Jewish Communities in these areas?
Thank You,
Lisa Arnett nee Golden Philadelphia Suburbs
Sender: L A <lisala7366@yahoo.com>
Jewish genealogy shaped by the Gold Rush re ROSENBLATT/ WALLACH of Hesse #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

There are many references to Jews and the Californian Gold Rush to be found on
the internet, but as yet I have found none specifically dealing with the
genealogy of named families in the Australian Gold Rush. That is why I think my
recent posting on the ROSENBLATT/DOERNBERG/WALLACH families is so exciting.

Louis [Liebmann] ROSENBLATT and his wife Henrietta nee DOERNBERG as well as his
brother Henry emigrated >from Germany to Australia via Liverpool in 1854 and
settled in Sandhurst, Victoria, Australia. I found links between the ROSENBLATT
family of Hebel, Germany and Sandhurst, Australia with the ROSENBLATT family of
Port Elizabeth and Capetown, South Africa and also the WALLACH family of Kassel
[Cassel], Germany and the NEUKORN family of Krakow.

Thus Herman, the son of Henry ROSENBLATT and his wife Emilie of Hebel married
to Jeannette WALLACH and they moved to Port Elizabeth, South Africa, where
their daughter Rhoda ROSENBLATT was born: 18 Dec 1889; Died: 3 Dec 1984, Cape
Town.

And going back to Australia we can find the Sandhurst, Victoria, July 1855
naturalisation petitions for Joseph WALLACH born Cassel, Hesse in 1827. He had
arrived in Victoria in 1853. I assume Jeannette was his daughter.

So why did they all go to Sandhurst? This town, originally known as Bendigo
Creek later [1891] reverted to the name Bendigo. Bendigo was famed for the Gold
Rush which started in the early 1850s.

Saul Issroff tells me [I have his permission to quote] that most of the early
German Jews in South Africa were brought out by the MOSENTHAL family, relations
or friends who became merchants and traders in rural towns. Many came from
Hesse Cassel. Hence the the opportunities for trade in a gold rush town lured
the young men of Hesse to Australia in the early 1850s and probably family ties
[via Cassel] plus the gold and diamonds brought the next generation to Africa.
I suspect that some of the S. African ROSENBLATT/WALLACH descendants are once
again back in Australia.

I have checked Yad vashem {and also the JGFF for links] and there are a
surprisingly large number of WALLACH who were still living in Cassel at the
time of WW2. We remember them here today.

Celia Male [U.K.]
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish genealogy shaped by the Gold Rush re ROSENBLATT/ WALLACH of Hesse #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

There are many references to Jews and the Californian Gold Rush to be found on
the internet, but as yet I have found none specifically dealing with the
genealogy of named families in the Australian Gold Rush. That is why I think my
recent posting on the ROSENBLATT/DOERNBERG/WALLACH families is so exciting.

Louis [Liebmann] ROSENBLATT and his wife Henrietta nee DOERNBERG as well as his
brother Henry emigrated >from Germany to Australia via Liverpool in 1854 and
settled in Sandhurst, Victoria, Australia. I found links between the ROSENBLATT
family of Hebel, Germany and Sandhurst, Australia with the ROSENBLATT family of
Port Elizabeth and Capetown, South Africa and also the WALLACH family of Kassel
[Cassel], Germany and the NEUKORN family of Krakow.

Thus Herman, the son of Henry ROSENBLATT and his wife Emilie of Hebel married
to Jeannette WALLACH and they moved to Port Elizabeth, South Africa, where
their daughter Rhoda ROSENBLATT was born: 18 Dec 1889; Died: 3 Dec 1984, Cape
Town.

And going back to Australia we can find the Sandhurst, Victoria, July 1855
naturalisation petitions for Joseph WALLACH born Cassel, Hesse in 1827. He had
arrived in Victoria in 1853. I assume Jeannette was his daughter.

So why did they all go to Sandhurst? This town, originally known as Bendigo
Creek later [1891] reverted to the name Bendigo. Bendigo was famed for the Gold
Rush which started in the early 1850s.

Saul Issroff tells me [I have his permission to quote] that most of the early
German Jews in South Africa were brought out by the MOSENTHAL family, relations
or friends who became merchants and traders in rural towns. Many came from
Hesse Cassel. Hence the the opportunities for trade in a gold rush town lured
the young men of Hesse to Australia in the early 1850s and probably family ties
[via Cassel] plus the gold and diamonds brought the next generation to Africa.
I suspect that some of the S. African ROSENBLATT/WALLACH descendants are once
again back in Australia.

I have checked Yad vashem {and also the JGFF for links] and there are a
surprisingly large number of WALLACH who were still living in Cassel at the
time of WW2. We remember them here today.

Celia Male [U.K.]
Re: US death notices #general

phylliskramer1@att.net <phylliskramer1@...>
 

liza asked about US requirements for posting death notices in newspapers....

Death certificates have been required since the early years of the last century,
but they are governed by state rules so there is no one year they began.

There are no requirements to post death notices. Typically the funeral director
consults with the family and places a "paid notice" in a local newspaper. These
notices can include a list of the surviving relatives and other biographical
information, including:
· former residences
· educational institutions attended
· employment
· military service
· memberships in clubs, lodges and other organizations
· personal accomplishments, honors, etc.
Great clues for the genealogist!

You might want to begin with the social security death index....and find the
dates they died....
http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

Then you want to find a library subscribing to Proquest....only libraries have
this...and seek one with the historical NY Times and historical California papers...

another option is to try the Google Archives at
http://news.google.com/archivesearch/
which will lead you to articles available online at a nominal charge. Go to the
advanced search, put in the surname and year, and the word "died" for obituaries.

one last option, take the JewishGen Basic Genealogy course, beginning January 1
and you'll find out about all the US rules and regulations. Go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/education and view the description and requirements.

good luck with your search
Phyllis Kramer, Wilton, Conn & Palm Beach Gardens, Fla
VP, Education, JewishGen Inc
PhyllisKramer1@att.net, researching (mostly Galicia):
STECHER, TRACHMAN,>from Zmigrod, Dukla, Krosno
KRAMER, BEIM, WISNER >from Jasienica
SCHEINER, KANDEL, SCHIMMEL >from Strzyzow, Dubiecko
LINDNER, EICHEL >from Rohatyn (also Iasi, Romania)
Re: Penza pogrom? #general

kagsef@...
 

"From: Israel P <IsraelP@pikholz.org>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:17:26 +0200

My grandmother's father (my namesake), stepmother and some other family
members went (or were sent) >from Borisov to Penza at the end of WWI and
her half-brother was killed during that period. I don't know if he was
killed in Borisov, Penza or elsewhere. Does anyone know where I might
inquire about the names of those murdered in Penza?"

I don't have any answers to your questions, but I think I have a
question for you myself. My grandmother and her family were sent from
their town in Russia (I don't have the name) in 1914 to Penza. She had
said the whole town was relocated to Penza, where they lived for a time
in a sort of Army barracks. Do you know if that was a common place for
Jews to be sent to during that time period?

Kathy Sefton, Chicago
searching: ERLICH, Penza and Samara, Russia; Panevezys, Lithuania;
KAGAN, Panevezys, Lithuania; AUGENLICHT, Poland; GREBETZ, Telechan,
Lithuania (now Belarus)
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: US death notices #general

phylliskramer1@att.net <phylliskramer1@...>
 

liza asked about US requirements for posting death notices in newspapers....

Death certificates have been required since the early years of the last century,
but they are governed by state rules so there is no one year they began.

There are no requirements to post death notices. Typically the funeral director
consults with the family and places a "paid notice" in a local newspaper. These
notices can include a list of the surviving relatives and other biographical
information, including:
· former residences
· educational institutions attended
· employment
· military service
· memberships in clubs, lodges and other organizations
· personal accomplishments, honors, etc.
Great clues for the genealogist!

You might want to begin with the social security death index....and find the
dates they died....
http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

Then you want to find a library subscribing to Proquest....only libraries have
this...and seek one with the historical NY Times and historical California papers...

another option is to try the Google Archives at
http://news.google.com/archivesearch/
which will lead you to articles available online at a nominal charge. Go to the
advanced search, put in the surname and year, and the word "died" for obituaries.

one last option, take the JewishGen Basic Genealogy course, beginning January 1
and you'll find out about all the US rules and regulations. Go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/education and view the description and requirements.

good luck with your search
Phyllis Kramer, Wilton, Conn & Palm Beach Gardens, Fla
VP, Education, JewishGen Inc
PhyllisKramer1@att.net, researching (mostly Galicia):
STECHER, TRACHMAN,>from Zmigrod, Dukla, Krosno
KRAMER, BEIM, WISNER >from Jasienica
SCHEINER, KANDEL, SCHIMMEL >from Strzyzow, Dubiecko
LINDNER, EICHEL >from Rohatyn (also Iasi, Romania)
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Penza pogrom? #general

kagsef@...
 

"From: Israel P <IsraelP@pikholz.org>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:17:26 +0200

My grandmother's father (my namesake), stepmother and some other family
members went (or were sent) >from Borisov to Penza at the end of WWI and
her half-brother was killed during that period. I don't know if he was
killed in Borisov, Penza or elsewhere. Does anyone know where I might
inquire about the names of those murdered in Penza?"

I don't have any answers to your questions, but I think I have a
question for you myself. My grandmother and her family were sent from
their town in Russia (I don't have the name) in 1914 to Penza. She had
said the whole town was relocated to Penza, where they lived for a time
in a sort of Army barracks. Do you know if that was a common place for
Jews to be sent to during that time period?

Kathy Sefton, Chicago
searching: ERLICH, Penza and Samara, Russia; Panevezys, Lithuania;
KAGAN, Panevezys, Lithuania; AUGENLICHT, Poland; GREBETZ, Telechan,
Lithuania (now Belarus)
Kopyl (Kapule) #belarus

Harold Stein <hal2202@...>
 

Dear Genners:
I am interested in hearing >from persons whose
ancestors, like mine, emigrated to the USA >from the
shtetl Kapyl (Kapule)located near Slutsk---especially
those who emigrated to Sioux City, Iowa. There was a
large Kapule community there in the early and mid
1900s and even a Kapule schule. My grandfather, Avram
SHAPIRO was a Hebrew teacher there. I have contacted
several people listed in the shtetl finder for Kapyl,
but none had information. The Slutsk Yizkor Book has
chapters on Kapule, but they don't cover the late
1800s-early 1900s. Purpose of my inquiry is to
determine if anyone has any documents, photos, etc.
pertaining to the shtetl that they would be willing to
share, or similar material re the Sioux City Kapule
immigrant community. I have an audio tape of my late
mother describing what it was like growing up in
Kapule in the early 1900s. I also have a copy of the
history of the Jewish community of Sioux City
published by the Jewish Federation there many years
ago.
Hal Stein
Sacramento, CA
Seeking: SHAPIRO and ELIN, Kapule and environs;
SMOSCOWITZ, Riga and Griva, Latvia.
Belarus SIG #Belarus Kopyl (Kapule) #belarus

Harold Stein <hal2202@...>
 

Dear Genners:
I am interested in hearing >from persons whose
ancestors, like mine, emigrated to the USA >from the
shtetl Kapyl (Kapule)located near Slutsk---especially
those who emigrated to Sioux City, Iowa. There was a
large Kapule community there in the early and mid
1900s and even a Kapule schule. My grandfather, Avram
SHAPIRO was a Hebrew teacher there. I have contacted
several people listed in the shtetl finder for Kapyl,
but none had information. The Slutsk Yizkor Book has
chapters on Kapule, but they don't cover the late
1800s-early 1900s. Purpose of my inquiry is to
determine if anyone has any documents, photos, etc.
pertaining to the shtetl that they would be willing to
share, or similar material re the Sioux City Kapule
immigrant community. I have an audio tape of my late
mother describing what it was like growing up in
Kapule in the early 1900s. I also have a copy of the
history of the Jewish community of Sioux City
published by the Jewish Federation there many years
ago.
Hal Stein
Sacramento, CA
Seeking: SHAPIRO and ELIN, Kapule and environs;
SMOSCOWITZ, Riga and Griva, Latvia.
Rymanow: rebuilding of synagogue and cleanup of cemetery (galicia) #general

phylliskramer1@att.net <phylliskramer1@...>
 

Something wonderful is happening in Rymanow...at first there was a
shell of the wonderful, beautiful old synagogue, then a project was
begun to rebuild it. Next, volunteers are clearing the cemetery.
What a joy. The efforts stem >from a society organized to preserve
the Jewish heritage, called Spotkanie-Rymanow. Please look at
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/krosno/krosnorym.htm
--
Phyllis Kramer, Wilton, Conn &
Palm Beach Gardens, Fla
PhyllisKramer1@att.net, researching (Galicia):
STECHER, TRACHMAN,>from Zmigrod, Dukla, Krosno
KRAMER, BEIM, WISNER >from Jasienica
SCHEINER, KANDEL, SCHIMMEL >from Strzyzow, Dubiecko
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rymanow: rebuilding of synagogue and cleanup of cemetery (galicia) #general

phylliskramer1@att.net <phylliskramer1@...>
 

Something wonderful is happening in Rymanow...at first there was a
shell of the wonderful, beautiful old synagogue, then a project was
begun to rebuild it. Next, volunteers are clearing the cemetery.
What a joy. The efforts stem >from a society organized to preserve
the Jewish heritage, called Spotkanie-Rymanow. Please look at
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/krosno/krosnorym.htm
--
Phyllis Kramer, Wilton, Conn &
Palm Beach Gardens, Fla
PhyllisKramer1@att.net, researching (Galicia):
STECHER, TRACHMAN,>from Zmigrod, Dukla, Krosno
KRAMER, BEIM, WISNER >from Jasienica
SCHEINER, KANDEL, SCHIMMEL >from Strzyzow, Dubiecko
Noistadt, Poland Ghetto #general

felicia zieff
 

Dear friends,

Does anyone know how to find out the exact date a
transport >from the Noistadt, Poland Ghetto arrived in
Auschwitz in November 1942? A survivor >from this
ghetto received tattoo #25702 upon arrival in
Auschwitz-Birkenau in November 1942. I need to know
the exact date in November 1942 she arrived in order
to establish the yahrzeit date of her family members
who were killed.

Please reply to me privately.

Felicia P. Zieff
Association of Descendants of the Shoah - Illinois, Inc.
http://adsillinois.org
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/zloczew/zloczew.html
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Noistadt, Poland Ghetto #general

felicia zieff
 

Dear friends,

Does anyone know how to find out the exact date a
transport >from the Noistadt, Poland Ghetto arrived in
Auschwitz in November 1942? A survivor >from this
ghetto received tattoo #25702 upon arrival in
Auschwitz-Birkenau in November 1942. I need to know
the exact date in November 1942 she arrived in order
to establish the yahrzeit date of her family members
who were killed.

Please reply to me privately.

Felicia P. Zieff
Association of Descendants of the Shoah - Illinois, Inc.
http://adsillinois.org
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/zloczew/zloczew.html
1890 NYC Police Census - Assembly & Enumeration Districts #general

Marian Brown
 

Dear All,

I need the Assembly District and Enumeration District numbers for the
address, 262 Stanton Street, 1890. I see that Steven Morse and others
have done this for the 1905, 1915, 1920 censuses. Is there a way to get
this information other than ordering the FHL film for the book, "Aid to
Finding Addresses in 189 NYC Police Census," by Howard M. Jensen.

Or -- is anyone currently doing research in the NYC public library who
would be willing to look in this book.

Thank you,

Marian Brown
Cincinnati,OH
How Long To Receive 1931 N.Y.C . Marriage Record - Thank You! #general

richard may
 

Dear community,

Thank you to everyone who responded to my question "How long should it take to get a copy of a
1931 marriage record, with both certificate number and date known, >from the New York City
Department of Public Health(not the Municipal Archives)?"

Actually I miswrote what I had done, but did the correct thing. The inquiry was sent to the City
Clerks Office, City of New York, not the Health Dept., because the year was 1931.

I received the marriage record seventeen days later!

Richard May
Buffalo, New York, U.S.A.
306261 - 306280 of 654880  
More
Home Guidelines Messages Hashtags Subgroups Wiki Terms