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Weinberger #hungary Andrew Roth <andyroth@...> #78623 I'm looking for any descendants or relatives of MORRIS WEINBERGER, who, in 1950, lived at 2629 W. Ainslie Street, in what is now Chicago, IL 60625. The address appears to be a couple miles southeast of Northeastern Illinois University between East River Park and Winnemac Park. He would have been a senior citizen at that time. A brother to my grandmother, Berta Weinberger Princz, Morris apparently left Hungary before she was even born and she never met him until she came to America over 50 years later. Thank you. Sincerely, Andy Roth Greenbrae Marin County, CA Researching PRINCZ/Tolcsva, Vamosujfalu, Hun. ROTH/Satoraljaujhely, Hun. WEINBERGER/Tolcsva, Vamosujfalu, Hun. and Chicago , IL.
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Weinberger #hungary Andrew Roth <andyroth@...> #398959 I'm looking for any descendants or relatives of MORRIS WEINBERGER, who, in 1950, lived at 2629 W. Ainslie Street, in what is now Chicago, IL 60625. The address appears to be a couple miles southeast of Northeastern Illinois University between East River Park and Winnemac Park. He would have been a senior citizen at that time. A brother to my grandmother, Berta Weinberger Princz, Morris apparently left Hungary before she was even born and she never met him until she came to America over 50 years later. Thank you. Sincerely, Andy Roth Greenbrae Marin County, CA Researching PRINCZ/Tolcsva, Vamosujfalu, Hun. ROTH/Satoraljaujhely, Hun. WEINBERGER/Tolcsva, Vamosujfalu, Hun. and Chicago , IL.
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Re: Rabinowitz / FRIEDMAN #southafrica Rosalind #295008 This is a possibility hanging by a thread of hope . My Gparents in London used to visit Friedmans (any spelling). We don't know where the relationship was...ABRAMOWICH or SHERMAN. But as they came via Vilna >from Rokiskis I thought it was worth a try. GF grew up in Rokiskis and GM probably not very far away. Research has not turrned up anything on her. Just a thought. Could you comment please Ros Jerusalem toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zvi & Rita Friedman" <rita_f@...> To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@...> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 8:46 PM Subject: Re:[safrica] Rabinowitz Shalom Everyone, I have been following this thread also. I am researching my daughter-in-laws family, and this is what I have. Simon (Osiah Jacob) NOLL b.1872 in Seduva married in 1899 Oudtshoorn, South Africa Etta (Esther) Rabinowitz b.1874 in Kelme, Etta's brother was Nachman Rabinowitz, who had a son Rueven Rabinowitz, who changed his name to Richard Robinson'he married Sarah (Sally)Schocher (furniture people). Rita Friedman, Israel Researching NOLL Seduva & South Africa, RABINOWITZ Kelme, South Africa, SINGER Lipniski, Belarus, (was once Lithuania), London, England, Chicago, USA. RUDASZEWSKI, Nemencine and Vilna, Litha, FRIEDMAN Dokshitz, Belarus and Rokiskis, Litha. I've been watching this thread with interest. My grandmother's sister, Ruchel Leibowitz, married Louis (Lepa) Rabinowitz. Her family lived in Kelme, Lithuania, and presumably, so did his family. Louis was the youngest of six or seven children, but I have no further information about them. Louis and Ruchel went to South Africa at some point, living there at least long enough for two children to be born, before coming to the US in 1906. In the U.S., the family name was changed, by different family members, to Rubin, Rubins and Robins. For what it is worth, Ruchel's mother's maiden name was Grusinsky, and part of the Grusinsky family (who changed their name to Grusin at some point) settled in South Africa, where they still live. Any connections? Thanks in advance. Carol Kunkis Cohn Newport Beach, CA
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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re:Rabinowitz / FRIEDMAN #southafrica Rosalind #615231 This is a possibility hanging by a thread of hope . My Gparents in London used to visit Friedmans (any spelling). We don't know where the relationship was...ABRAMOWICH or SHERMAN. But as they came via Vilna >from Rokiskis I thought it was worth a try. GF grew up in Rokiskis and GM probably not very far away. Research has not turrned up anything on her. Just a thought. Could you comment please Ros Jerusalem toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zvi & Rita Friedman" <rita_f@...> To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@...> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 8:46 PM Subject: Re:[safrica] Rabinowitz Shalom Everyone, I have been following this thread also. I am researching my daughter-in-laws family, and this is what I have. Simon (Osiah Jacob) NOLL b.1872 in Seduva married in 1899 Oudtshoorn, South Africa Etta (Esther) Rabinowitz b.1874 in Kelme, Etta's brother was Nachman Rabinowitz, who had a son Rueven Rabinowitz, who changed his name to Richard Robinson'he married Sarah (Sally)Schocher (furniture people). Rita Friedman, Israel Researching NOLL Seduva & South Africa, RABINOWITZ Kelme, South Africa, SINGER Lipniski, Belarus, (was once Lithuania), London, England, Chicago, USA. RUDASZEWSKI, Nemencine and Vilna, Litha, FRIEDMAN Dokshitz, Belarus and Rokiskis, Litha. I've been watching this thread with interest. My grandmother's sister, Ruchel Leibowitz, married Louis (Lepa) Rabinowitz. Her family lived in Kelme, Lithuania, and presumably, so did his family. Louis was the youngest of six or seven children, but I have no further information about them. Louis and Ruchel went to South Africa at some point, living there at least long enough for two children to be born, before coming to the US in 1906. In the U.S., the family name was changed, by different family members, to Rubin, Rubins and Robins. For what it is worth, Ruchel's mother's maiden name was Grusinsky, and part of the Grusinsky family (who changed their name to Grusin at some point) settled in South Africa, where they still live. Any connections? Thanks in advance. Carol Kunkis Cohn Newport Beach, CA
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Seeking the whereabouts Of Louis MENDELSON's Children #general sacredsisters3@aol.com <sacredsisters3@...> #184792 Hello I am trying to trace the kids of Louis & Rose MENDELSON who lived in Brooklyn, NY for many years. They had three children, Max who was born in Russia about 1907, Sylvia born in Brooklyn in 1910 and Celia born in Brooklyn in 1916. I am trying to either get a hold of them or their children. I believe Max married a Barbara or "Bobby", and One of my cousins thinks that they may have retired to Florida and most likely died there as well. I believe one of their children names is Erik Mendelson. Sylvia married a William "Bill" KASS, and I believe they may have lived in California and most likely died ther as well. One of their children's names is Jeffrey Kass. Celia >from what i was told married an army man, and thats all I know on that. I would like to get in touch with any of these people for they are descendants of the Mendelson line I have been working on, and i would love to ask them questions and find out if they have photo's that may have been passed down >from their father & grandfather Louis Mendelson. If you can help me or have any information then please contact me. Sarah Greenberg(USA-CT) sacredsisters3@...
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking the whereabouts Of Louis MENDELSON's Children #general sacredsisters3@aol.com <sacredsisters3@...> #505105 Hello I am trying to trace the kids of Louis & Rose MENDELSON who lived in Brooklyn, NY for many years. They had three children, Max who was born in Russia about 1907, Sylvia born in Brooklyn in 1910 and Celia born in Brooklyn in 1916. I am trying to either get a hold of them or their children. I believe Max married a Barbara or "Bobby", and One of my cousins thinks that they may have retired to Florida and most likely died there as well. I believe one of their children names is Erik Mendelson. Sylvia married a William "Bill" KASS, and I believe they may have lived in California and most likely died ther as well. One of their children's names is Jeffrey Kass. Celia >from what i was told married an army man, and thats all I know on that. I would like to get in touch with any of these people for they are descendants of the Mendelson line I have been working on, and i would love to ask them questions and find out if they have photo's that may have been passed down >from their father & grandfather Louis Mendelson. If you can help me or have any information then please contact me. Sarah Greenberg(USA-CT) sacredsisters3@...
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Re: US Non-Immgrant Records? #general Michael McTeer <mcteer@...> #184791 Apparently I owe everyone an apology as both my subject and content was confusing. My comment, "going to 'bil'(?) in Philadelphia, PA" seems to have been the most understood. The "(?)" was not a request for a definition of the abbreviation of "brother-in-law." Rather it was referencing my interpretation of the handwritting on the manifest. I believe it is "bil". The overall topic was the possibility of US govenment records for people who were just "visiting" as opposed to immigrating or seeking citizenship. My desire was to identify this family in order to determine if it is my ancestral family which I believe them to be. The answer to that question seems to have been answered by Mark Jacobson who detailed response I include below. In a word, the answer to my question was NO. According to the 1931 passenger listing of my great grandmother, Liba (LENCZNER) LIEBERMAN KALKOPF FRYMORGEN, when she had been granted permanent resident status as a parent of "American" children she had been in the US as earlier as 1903 (to Philadelphia). I knew some of the family (including my grandmother) came through St. Louis where there were relatives but the Philadelphia connection was not known to me. It would be YEARS later that I would learn of "Uncle Sol" GLICKSMAN who arrived in Philadelphia in the 1890's. Until recently I have never really had "access" to the on line Philadelphia listings (where I just found the Apr 1939 manifest for my half great aunt). So a "KALKOPF" family going to Philadelphia is of great interest to me. I do not know if the subject family was attempting immigration or just visiting. My great grandfather, "Aaron", I was told was a tailor as was the subject husband. (Mark Jacobson ) "....The fact that they are listed on an immigration manifest and were not US citizens means (and there is no stamp "non-immigrant passenger" which was used for people in transit) means they were immigrants. There were no special immigration markings on manifests, the manifests themselves were immigration documentation. There were no entry visas before World War I, no 'resident aliens' before World War II, no other paperwork for immigrants. There was no immigrant legal status in the United States at this time nor for many years after. People could come and go at will, as long as they could purchase tickets, were not criminals or indigents, and the passed the medical inspection. These people were immigrants. They did not have to ever apply for naturalization, they were still immigrants. The only information ever added to manifests is an application for a Certificate of Arrival, one of the steps in the Petition process, and since they arrived in January 1906 this was before the Certificate of Arrival law existed, so if any one of them ever applied for citizenship there would be no Certificates of Arrival created for any of them. You have all the immigration paperwork which exists if you have the manifest." Thanks to all who responded to me and sorry for the confusion. Michael McTeer 29 Palms, CA mcteer@...
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: US Non-Immgrant Records? #general Michael McTeer <mcteer@...> #505104 Apparently I owe everyone an apology as both my subject and content was confusing. My comment, "going to 'bil'(?) in Philadelphia, PA" seems to have been the most understood. The "(?)" was not a request for a definition of the abbreviation of "brother-in-law." Rather it was referencing my interpretation of the handwritting on the manifest. I believe it is "bil". The overall topic was the possibility of US govenment records for people who were just "visiting" as opposed to immigrating or seeking citizenship. My desire was to identify this family in order to determine if it is my ancestral family which I believe them to be. The answer to that question seems to have been answered by Mark Jacobson who detailed response I include below. In a word, the answer to my question was NO. According to the 1931 passenger listing of my great grandmother, Liba (LENCZNER) LIEBERMAN KALKOPF FRYMORGEN, when she had been granted permanent resident status as a parent of "American" children she had been in the US as earlier as 1903 (to Philadelphia). I knew some of the family (including my grandmother) came through St. Louis where there were relatives but the Philadelphia connection was not known to me. It would be YEARS later that I would learn of "Uncle Sol" GLICKSMAN who arrived in Philadelphia in the 1890's. Until recently I have never really had "access" to the on line Philadelphia listings (where I just found the Apr 1939 manifest for my half great aunt). So a "KALKOPF" family going to Philadelphia is of great interest to me. I do not know if the subject family was attempting immigration or just visiting. My great grandfather, "Aaron", I was told was a tailor as was the subject husband. (Mark Jacobson ) "....The fact that they are listed on an immigration manifest and were not US citizens means (and there is no stamp "non-immigrant passenger" which was used for people in transit) means they were immigrants. There were no special immigration markings on manifests, the manifests themselves were immigration documentation. There were no entry visas before World War I, no 'resident aliens' before World War II, no other paperwork for immigrants. There was no immigrant legal status in the United States at this time nor for many years after. People could come and go at will, as long as they could purchase tickets, were not criminals or indigents, and the passed the medical inspection. These people were immigrants. They did not have to ever apply for naturalization, they were still immigrants. The only information ever added to manifests is an application for a Certificate of Arrival, one of the steps in the Petition process, and since they arrived in January 1906 this was before the Certificate of Arrival law existed, so if any one of them ever applied for citizenship there would be no Certificates of Arrival created for any of them. You have all the immigration paperwork which exists if you have the manifest." Thanks to all who responded to me and sorry for the confusion. Michael McTeer 29 Palms, CA mcteer@...
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Searching for Sara ARBESFELD #general Lauren Lebowitz <lauren1bravo@...> #184790 I have been helping my grandfather's friend, Arie Letzter, research his family. We found a page of testimony that was submitted for his father in 1955 by a woman named Sara ARBESFELD. She claims to be his cousin, yet Arie does not know who this woman is. Would anyone have any advice on how I can locate this woman or any of her family members? I am very new to geneaology and could use some help. In 1955, her address was Kfar Ata, Rehov Herzl **. Thank you so much, Lauren Lebowitz New York, New York MODERATOR NOTE: House number removed in line with JewishGen policy.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for Sara ARBESFELD #general Lauren Lebowitz <lauren1bravo@...> #505103 I have been helping my grandfather's friend, Arie Letzter, research his family. We found a page of testimony that was submitted for his father in 1955 by a woman named Sara ARBESFELD. She claims to be his cousin, yet Arie does not know who this woman is. Would anyone have any advice on how I can locate this woman or any of her family members? I am very new to geneaology and could use some help. In 1955, her address was Kfar Ata, Rehov Herzl **. Thank you so much, Lauren Lebowitz New York, New York MODERATOR NOTE: House number removed in line with JewishGen policy.
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More Tips: Finding People in the United States #general Sal & Ellen Barbieri <elsal@...> #184789 Also, don't forget the obvious. Check Social Security Death Index for last residence & analyze with your other data. Google person. I have found many people through google especially people in teaching profession or those who have authored a paper. Found one person's spouse, a retired military officer, who placed his unlisted phone number & e-mail on his organization's website. Ellen Barbieri San Diego, CA
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen More Tips: Finding People in the United States #general Sal & Ellen Barbieri <elsal@...> #505102 Also, don't forget the obvious. Check Social Security Death Index for last residence & analyze with your other data. Google person. I have found many people through google especially people in teaching profession or those who have authored a paper. Found one person's spouse, a retired military officer, who placed his unlisted phone number & e-mail on his organization's website. Ellen Barbieri San Diego, CA
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Jankel and Liebe WEINER #general Dr. Trevor Waner #184787 Has anyone any information about Jankel and Liebe WEINER >from Shavel, Lithuania? Their daughter Tova Rina arrived in South Africa in about 1922. Best regards to all JewishGenners Trevor Waner Rehovot, Israel Formally of Springs, South Africa
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Re: Searching descendants of Jacob W. & Rose SHAFTON #general Roger Lustig <julierog@...> #184788 Maurine: Where do these SHAFTONs come from? I see >from your JGFF entry that your BEJACHs come >from Zempelburg, W. Prussia (now Sepolno Krajenskie, Poland). You might want to put some of the other surnames in JGFF also. The name SHAFTON could be an Americanization of SCHUFTAN (various spellings), which was a large family >from Staedtel, Kr. Namslau in Silesia. I've recently worked with the Staedtel vital records (1810-1850 or so) and found lots and lots of entries for that family. By the way, the late Monica Leonards indexed/transcribed the Jewish entries in the Zempelburg civil registers for 1874-83 (the years that were filmed). They should appear on JRI-Poland before long. Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA Maurine wrote: toggle quoted messageShow quoted text I am searching for descendants of Rose BEJACH and Jacob W. SHAFTON in connection with my BEJACH family. Their children were: Hazel Shafton UNGER (b. abt 1905) Lester B. Shafton (b. abt 1906) Stella Shafton (b. abt 1907) Theodore Shafton (b. abt. 1909) Sidney Shafton (b. abt 1911) Phyllis Shafton GRAHAM (b. abt 1914) Marjorie Shafton FEINBERG (b. abt 1919) Rose BEJACH SHAFTON was the daughter of Morris (Moses, Moritz) BEJACH and Johanna Pisner (or Pieser).
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jankel and Liebe WEINER #general Dr. Trevor Waner #505100 Has anyone any information about Jankel and Liebe WEINER >from Shavel, Lithuania? Their daughter Tova Rina arrived in South Africa in about 1922. Best regards to all JewishGenners Trevor Waner Rehovot, Israel Formally of Springs, South Africa
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Searching descendants of Jacob W. & Rose SHAFTON #general Roger Lustig <julierog@...> #505101 Maurine: Where do these SHAFTONs come from? I see >from your JGFF entry that your BEJACHs come >from Zempelburg, W. Prussia (now Sepolno Krajenskie, Poland). You might want to put some of the other surnames in JGFF also. The name SHAFTON could be an Americanization of SCHUFTAN (various spellings), which was a large family >from Staedtel, Kr. Namslau in Silesia. I've recently worked with the Staedtel vital records (1810-1850 or so) and found lots and lots of entries for that family. By the way, the late Monica Leonards indexed/transcribed the Jewish entries in the Zempelburg civil registers for 1874-83 (the years that were filmed). They should appear on JRI-Poland before long. Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA Maurine wrote: toggle quoted messageShow quoted text I am searching for descendants of Rose BEJACH and Jacob W. SHAFTON in connection with my BEJACH family. Their children were: Hazel Shafton UNGER (b. abt 1905) Lester B. Shafton (b. abt 1906) Stella Shafton (b. abt 1907) Theodore Shafton (b. abt. 1909) Sidney Shafton (b. abt 1911) Phyllis Shafton GRAHAM (b. abt 1914) Marjorie Shafton FEINBERG (b. abt 1919) Rose BEJACH SHAFTON was the daughter of Morris (Moses, Moritz) BEJACH and Johanna Pisner (or Pieser).
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Tip: Sharing Research Data via Spreadsheets #general Sal & Ellen Barbieri <elsal@...> #184785 A friend set-up a class address/phone/e-mail list on http://spreadsheets.google.com She & I have access to make any changes/additions. After hard copy was mailed to everyone, she can give access to anyone on the list so they can view spreadsheet at any time. Saves resending new info everytime there is a change. Was thinking this could be useful for organizing/sharing genealogical data. Set-up a spreadsheet to your liking and persons who are working together from anywhere in the world could have access to make entries. Others could have access to view it. I am not a computer whiz, so perhaps some of the computer mavens might want to comment on whether this is a good idea and make further suggestions. Ellen Barbieri San Diego, CA elsal@... Researching: ZYMAN, MARKUS- Lubowo (now Liubavas, Lithuania); KANOWICZ, KAPLAN, KRAMORSKI, ZYMAN- Suwalki; FRYDLANDSKI, JAWORKOWSKI- Filipow; GOLDBERG-?
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Re: Steve MORSE #general Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...> #184786 Joan Parker wrote on 26 jan 2007 in soc.genealogy.jewish: There is a great four-page article "Stepping Up" about Steve Morse and his one-step search options in the February issue of Family Tree Magazine. It also includes a personal interview with him. Interview: <http://www.familytreemagazine.com/feb07/morse.asp> Evertjan Hannivoort. The Netherlands. (Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Tip: Sharing Research Data via Spreadsheets #general Sal & Ellen Barbieri <elsal@...> #505098 A friend set-up a class address/phone/e-mail list on http://spreadsheets.google.com She & I have access to make any changes/additions. After hard copy was mailed to everyone, she can give access to anyone on the list so they can view spreadsheet at any time. Saves resending new info everytime there is a change. Was thinking this could be useful for organizing/sharing genealogical data. Set-up a spreadsheet to your liking and persons who are working together from anywhere in the world could have access to make entries. Others could have access to view it. I am not a computer whiz, so perhaps some of the computer mavens might want to comment on whether this is a good idea and make further suggestions. Ellen Barbieri San Diego, CA elsal@... Researching: ZYMAN, MARKUS- Lubowo (now Liubavas, Lithuania); KANOWICZ, KAPLAN, KRAMORSKI, ZYMAN- Suwalki; FRYDLANDSKI, JAWORKOWSKI- Filipow; GOLDBERG-?
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Steve MORSE #general Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...> #505099 Joan Parker wrote on 26 jan 2007 in soc.genealogy.jewish: There is a great four-page article "Stepping Up" about Steve Morse and his one-step search options in the February issue of Family Tree Magazine. It also includes a personal interview with him. Interview: <http://www.familytreemagazine.com/feb07/morse.asp> Evertjan Hannivoort. The Netherlands. (Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)
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