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Weinberger #hungary

Andrew Roth <andyroth@...>
 

I'm looking for any descendants or relatives of MORRIS WEINBERGER,
who, in 1950, lived at 2629 W. Ainslie Street, in what is now
Chicago, IL 60625. The address appears to be a couple miles
southeast of Northeastern Illinois University between East River Park
and Winnemac Park. He would have been a senior citizen at that
time. A brother to my grandmother, Berta Weinberger Princz, Morris
apparently left Hungary before she was even born and she never met
him until she came to America over 50 years later.

Thank you.

Sincerely,

Andy Roth
Greenbrae
Marin County, CA

Researching
PRINCZ/Tolcsva, Vamosujfalu, Hun.
ROTH/Satoraljaujhely, Hun.
WEINBERGER/Tolcsva, Vamosujfalu, Hun. and Chicago , IL.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Weinberger #hungary

Andrew Roth <andyroth@...>
 

I'm looking for any descendants or relatives of MORRIS WEINBERGER,
who, in 1950, lived at 2629 W. Ainslie Street, in what is now
Chicago, IL 60625. The address appears to be a couple miles
southeast of Northeastern Illinois University between East River Park
and Winnemac Park. He would have been a senior citizen at that
time. A brother to my grandmother, Berta Weinberger Princz, Morris
apparently left Hungary before she was even born and she never met
him until she came to America over 50 years later.

Thank you.

Sincerely,

Andy Roth
Greenbrae
Marin County, CA

Researching
PRINCZ/Tolcsva, Vamosujfalu, Hun.
ROTH/Satoraljaujhely, Hun.
WEINBERGER/Tolcsva, Vamosujfalu, Hun. and Chicago , IL.


Re: Rabinowitz / FRIEDMAN #southafrica

Rosalind
 

This is a possibility hanging by a thread of hope .
My Gparents in London used to visit Friedmans (any
spelling). We don't know where the relationship was...ABRAMOWICH or SHERMAN.
But as they came via Vilna >from Rokiskis I thought it was worth a try.
GF grew up in Rokiskis and GM probably not very far away. Research has not
turrned up anything on her.
Just a thought. Could you comment please
Ros
Jerusalem

----- Original Message -----
From: "Zvi & Rita Friedman" <rita_f@...>
To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 8:46 PM
Subject: Re:[safrica] Rabinowitz


Shalom Everyone,
I have been following this thread also. I am researching my
daughter-in-laws family, and this is what I have.
Simon (Osiah Jacob) NOLL b.1872 in Seduva married in 1899 Oudtshoorn,
South Africa Etta (Esther) Rabinowitz b.1874 in Kelme,
Etta's brother was Nachman Rabinowitz, who had a son Rueven Rabinowitz,
who changed his name to Richard Robinson'he married Sarah (Sally)Schocher
(furniture people).
Rita Friedman, Israel

Researching NOLL Seduva & South Africa, RABINOWITZ Kelme, South Africa,
SINGER Lipniski, Belarus, (was once Lithuania), London, England, Chicago,
USA. RUDASZEWSKI, Nemencine and Vilna, Litha, FRIEDMAN Dokshitz, Belarus
and Rokiskis, Litha.

I've been watching this thread with interest.

My grandmother's sister, Ruchel Leibowitz, married Louis (Lepa)
Rabinowitz.
Her family lived in Kelme, Lithuania, and presumably, so did his family.
Louis was the youngest of six or seven children, but I have no further
information about them. Louis and Ruchel went to South Africa at some
point, living
there at least long enough for two children to be born, before coming to
the
US in 1906. In the U.S., the family name was changed, by different
family
members, to Rubin, Rubins and Robins. For what it is worth, Ruchel's
mother's maiden name was Grusinsky, and part of the Grusinsky family (who
changed
their name to Grusin at some point) settled in South Africa, where they
still
live.

Any connections? Thanks in advance.


Carol Kunkis Cohn
Newport Beach, CA


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re:Rabinowitz / FRIEDMAN #southafrica

Rosalind
 

This is a possibility hanging by a thread of hope .
My Gparents in London used to visit Friedmans (any
spelling). We don't know where the relationship was...ABRAMOWICH or SHERMAN.
But as they came via Vilna >from Rokiskis I thought it was worth a try.
GF grew up in Rokiskis and GM probably not very far away. Research has not
turrned up anything on her.
Just a thought. Could you comment please
Ros
Jerusalem

----- Original Message -----
From: "Zvi & Rita Friedman" <rita_f@...>
To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 8:46 PM
Subject: Re:[safrica] Rabinowitz


Shalom Everyone,
I have been following this thread also. I am researching my
daughter-in-laws family, and this is what I have.
Simon (Osiah Jacob) NOLL b.1872 in Seduva married in 1899 Oudtshoorn,
South Africa Etta (Esther) Rabinowitz b.1874 in Kelme,
Etta's brother was Nachman Rabinowitz, who had a son Rueven Rabinowitz,
who changed his name to Richard Robinson'he married Sarah (Sally)Schocher
(furniture people).
Rita Friedman, Israel

Researching NOLL Seduva & South Africa, RABINOWITZ Kelme, South Africa,
SINGER Lipniski, Belarus, (was once Lithuania), London, England, Chicago,
USA. RUDASZEWSKI, Nemencine and Vilna, Litha, FRIEDMAN Dokshitz, Belarus
and Rokiskis, Litha.

I've been watching this thread with interest.

My grandmother's sister, Ruchel Leibowitz, married Louis (Lepa)
Rabinowitz.
Her family lived in Kelme, Lithuania, and presumably, so did his family.
Louis was the youngest of six or seven children, but I have no further
information about them. Louis and Ruchel went to South Africa at some
point, living
there at least long enough for two children to be born, before coming to
the
US in 1906. In the U.S., the family name was changed, by different
family
members, to Rubin, Rubins and Robins. For what it is worth, Ruchel's
mother's maiden name was Grusinsky, and part of the Grusinsky family (who
changed
their name to Grusin at some point) settled in South Africa, where they
still
live.

Any connections? Thanks in advance.


Carol Kunkis Cohn
Newport Beach, CA


Seeking the whereabouts Of Louis MENDELSON's Children #general

sacredsisters3@aol.com <sacredsisters3@...>
 

Hello

I am trying to trace the kids of Louis & Rose MENDELSON who lived in
Brooklyn, NY for many years. They had three children, Max who was born
in Russia about 1907, Sylvia born in Brooklyn in 1910 and Celia born in
Brooklyn in 1916. I am trying to either get a hold of them or their
children. I believe Max married a Barbara or "Bobby", and One of my
cousins thinks that they may have retired to Florida and most likely
died there as well. I believe one of their children names is Erik
Mendelson.

Sylvia married a William "Bill" KASS, and I believe they may have lived
in California and most likely died ther as well. One of their
children's names is Jeffrey Kass. Celia >from what i was told married an
army man, and thats all I know on that. I would like to get in touch
with any of these people for they are descendants of the Mendelson line
I have been working on, and i would love to ask them questions and find
out if they have photo's that may have been passed down >from their
father & grandfather Louis Mendelson. If you can help me or have any
information then please contact me.

Sarah Greenberg(USA-CT)
sacredsisters3@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking the whereabouts Of Louis MENDELSON's Children #general

sacredsisters3@aol.com <sacredsisters3@...>
 

Hello

I am trying to trace the kids of Louis & Rose MENDELSON who lived in
Brooklyn, NY for many years. They had three children, Max who was born
in Russia about 1907, Sylvia born in Brooklyn in 1910 and Celia born in
Brooklyn in 1916. I am trying to either get a hold of them or their
children. I believe Max married a Barbara or "Bobby", and One of my
cousins thinks that they may have retired to Florida and most likely
died there as well. I believe one of their children names is Erik
Mendelson.

Sylvia married a William "Bill" KASS, and I believe they may have lived
in California and most likely died ther as well. One of their
children's names is Jeffrey Kass. Celia >from what i was told married an
army man, and thats all I know on that. I would like to get in touch
with any of these people for they are descendants of the Mendelson line
I have been working on, and i would love to ask them questions and find
out if they have photo's that may have been passed down >from their
father & grandfather Louis Mendelson. If you can help me or have any
information then please contact me.

Sarah Greenberg(USA-CT)
sacredsisters3@...


Re: US Non-Immgrant Records? #general

Michael McTeer <mcteer@...>
 

Apparently I owe everyone an apology as both my subject and content was
confusing.

My comment, "going to 'bil'(?) in Philadelphia, PA" seems to have been the
most understood. The "(?)" was not a request for a definition of the
abbreviation of "brother-in-law." Rather it was referencing my
interpretation of the handwritting on the manifest. I believe it is "bil".

The overall topic was the possibility of US govenment records for people who
were just "visiting" as opposed to immigrating or seeking citizenship. My
desire was to identify this family in order to determine if it is my
ancestral family which I believe them to be. The answer to that question
seems to have been answered by Mark Jacobson who detailed response I include
below. In a word, the answer to my question was NO.

According to the 1931 passenger listing of my great grandmother, Liba
(LENCZNER) LIEBERMAN KALKOPF FRYMORGEN, when she had been granted permanent
resident status as a parent of "American" children she had been in the US as
earlier as 1903 (to Philadelphia). I knew some of the family (including my
grandmother) came through St. Louis where there were relatives but the
Philadelphia connection was not known to me. It would be YEARS later that I
would learn of "Uncle Sol" GLICKSMAN who arrived in Philadelphia in the
1890's. Until recently I have never really had "access" to the on line
Philadelphia listings (where I just found the Apr 1939 manifest for my half
great aunt). So a "KALKOPF" family going to Philadelphia is of great
interest to me. I do not know if the subject family was attempting
immigration or just visiting. My great grandfather, "Aaron", I was told was
a tailor as was the subject husband.

(Mark Jacobson ) "....The fact that they
are listed on an immigration manifest and were not US
citizens means (and there is no stamp "non-immigrant
passenger" which was used for people in transit) means
they were immigrants. There were no special
immigration markings on manifests, the manifests
themselves were immigration documentation. There were
no entry visas before World War I, no 'resident
aliens' before World War II, no other paperwork for
immigrants. There was no immigrant legal status in the
United States at this time nor for many years after.
People could come and go at will, as long as they
could purchase tickets, were not criminals or
indigents, and the passed the medical inspection.
These people were immigrants. They did not have to
ever apply for naturalization, they were still
immigrants. The only information ever added to
manifests is an application for a Certificate of
Arrival, one of the steps in the Petition process, and
since they arrived in January 1906 this was before the
Certificate of Arrival law existed, so if any one of
them ever applied for citizenship there would be no
Certificates of Arrival created for any of them. You
have all the immigration paperwork which exists if you
have the manifest."

Thanks to all who responded to me and sorry for the confusion.

Michael McTeer
29 Palms, CA
mcteer@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: US Non-Immgrant Records? #general

Michael McTeer <mcteer@...>
 

Apparently I owe everyone an apology as both my subject and content was
confusing.

My comment, "going to 'bil'(?) in Philadelphia, PA" seems to have been the
most understood. The "(?)" was not a request for a definition of the
abbreviation of "brother-in-law." Rather it was referencing my
interpretation of the handwritting on the manifest. I believe it is "bil".

The overall topic was the possibility of US govenment records for people who
were just "visiting" as opposed to immigrating or seeking citizenship. My
desire was to identify this family in order to determine if it is my
ancestral family which I believe them to be. The answer to that question
seems to have been answered by Mark Jacobson who detailed response I include
below. In a word, the answer to my question was NO.

According to the 1931 passenger listing of my great grandmother, Liba
(LENCZNER) LIEBERMAN KALKOPF FRYMORGEN, when she had been granted permanent
resident status as a parent of "American" children she had been in the US as
earlier as 1903 (to Philadelphia). I knew some of the family (including my
grandmother) came through St. Louis where there were relatives but the
Philadelphia connection was not known to me. It would be YEARS later that I
would learn of "Uncle Sol" GLICKSMAN who arrived in Philadelphia in the
1890's. Until recently I have never really had "access" to the on line
Philadelphia listings (where I just found the Apr 1939 manifest for my half
great aunt). So a "KALKOPF" family going to Philadelphia is of great
interest to me. I do not know if the subject family was attempting
immigration or just visiting. My great grandfather, "Aaron", I was told was
a tailor as was the subject husband.

(Mark Jacobson ) "....The fact that they
are listed on an immigration manifest and were not US
citizens means (and there is no stamp "non-immigrant
passenger" which was used for people in transit) means
they were immigrants. There were no special
immigration markings on manifests, the manifests
themselves were immigration documentation. There were
no entry visas before World War I, no 'resident
aliens' before World War II, no other paperwork for
immigrants. There was no immigrant legal status in the
United States at this time nor for many years after.
People could come and go at will, as long as they
could purchase tickets, were not criminals or
indigents, and the passed the medical inspection.
These people were immigrants. They did not have to
ever apply for naturalization, they were still
immigrants. The only information ever added to
manifests is an application for a Certificate of
Arrival, one of the steps in the Petition process, and
since they arrived in January 1906 this was before the
Certificate of Arrival law existed, so if any one of
them ever applied for citizenship there would be no
Certificates of Arrival created for any of them. You
have all the immigration paperwork which exists if you
have the manifest."

Thanks to all who responded to me and sorry for the confusion.

Michael McTeer
29 Palms, CA
mcteer@...


Searching for Sara ARBESFELD #general

Lauren Lebowitz <lauren1bravo@...>
 

I have been helping my grandfather's friend, Arie Letzter, research his
family.

We found a page of testimony that was submitted for his father in 1955 by a
woman named Sara ARBESFELD. She claims to be his cousin, yet Arie does not
know who this woman is.

Would anyone have any advice on how I can locate this woman or any of her
family members? I am very new to geneaology and could use some help.

In 1955, her address was Kfar Ata, Rehov Herzl **.

Thank you so much,

Lauren Lebowitz
New York, New York

MODERATOR NOTE: House number removed in line with JewishGen policy.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for Sara ARBESFELD #general

Lauren Lebowitz <lauren1bravo@...>
 

I have been helping my grandfather's friend, Arie Letzter, research his
family.

We found a page of testimony that was submitted for his father in 1955 by a
woman named Sara ARBESFELD. She claims to be his cousin, yet Arie does not
know who this woman is.

Would anyone have any advice on how I can locate this woman or any of her
family members? I am very new to geneaology and could use some help.

In 1955, her address was Kfar Ata, Rehov Herzl **.

Thank you so much,

Lauren Lebowitz
New York, New York

MODERATOR NOTE: House number removed in line with JewishGen policy.


More Tips: Finding People in the United States #general

Sal & Ellen Barbieri <elsal@...>
 

Also, don't forget the obvious. Check Social Security Death Index for last
residence & analyze with your other data. Google person. I have found many
people through google especially people in teaching profession or those who
have authored a paper. Found one person's spouse, a retired military
officer, who placed his unlisted phone number & e-mail on his organization's
website.
Ellen Barbieri
San Diego, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen More Tips: Finding People in the United States #general

Sal & Ellen Barbieri <elsal@...>
 

Also, don't forget the obvious. Check Social Security Death Index for last
residence & analyze with your other data. Google person. I have found many
people through google especially people in teaching profession or those who
have authored a paper. Found one person's spouse, a retired military
officer, who placed his unlisted phone number & e-mail on his organization's
website.
Ellen Barbieri
San Diego, CA


Jankel and Liebe WEINER #general

Dr. Trevor Waner
 

Has anyone any information about Jankel and Liebe WEINER >from Shavel,
Lithuania? Their daughter Tova Rina arrived in South Africa in about 1922.
Best regards to all JewishGenners

Trevor Waner
Rehovot, Israel
Formally of Springs, South Africa


Re: Searching descendants of Jacob W. & Rose SHAFTON #general

Roger Lustig <julierog@...>
 

Maurine:
Where do these SHAFTONs come from? I see >from your JGFF entry that your
BEJACHs come >from Zempelburg, W. Prussia (now Sepolno Krajenskie,
Poland). You might want to put some of the other surnames in JGFF also.

The name SHAFTON could be an Americanization of SCHUFTAN (various
spellings), which was a large family >from Staedtel, Kr. Namslau in
Silesia. I've recently worked with the Staedtel vital records
(1810-1850 or so) and found lots and lots of entries for that family.

By the way, the late Monica Leonards indexed/transcribed the Jewish
entries in the Zempelburg civil registers for 1874-83 (the years that
were filmed). They should appear on JRI-Poland before long.

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ USA

Maurine wrote:

I am searching for descendants of Rose BEJACH and Jacob W. SHAFTON in
connection with my BEJACH family. Their children were:

Hazel Shafton UNGER (b. abt 1905)
Lester B. Shafton (b. abt 1906)
Stella Shafton (b. abt 1907)
Theodore Shafton (b. abt. 1909)
Sidney Shafton (b. abt 1911)
Phyllis Shafton GRAHAM (b. abt 1914)
Marjorie Shafton FEINBERG (b. abt 1919)

Rose BEJACH SHAFTON was the daughter of Morris (Moses, Moritz) BEJACH
and Johanna Pisner (or Pieser).


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jankel and Liebe WEINER #general

Dr. Trevor Waner
 

Has anyone any information about Jankel and Liebe WEINER >from Shavel,
Lithuania? Their daughter Tova Rina arrived in South Africa in about 1922.
Best regards to all JewishGenners

Trevor Waner
Rehovot, Israel
Formally of Springs, South Africa


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Searching descendants of Jacob W. & Rose SHAFTON #general

Roger Lustig <julierog@...>
 

Maurine:
Where do these SHAFTONs come from? I see >from your JGFF entry that your
BEJACHs come >from Zempelburg, W. Prussia (now Sepolno Krajenskie,
Poland). You might want to put some of the other surnames in JGFF also.

The name SHAFTON could be an Americanization of SCHUFTAN (various
spellings), which was a large family >from Staedtel, Kr. Namslau in
Silesia. I've recently worked with the Staedtel vital records
(1810-1850 or so) and found lots and lots of entries for that family.

By the way, the late Monica Leonards indexed/transcribed the Jewish
entries in the Zempelburg civil registers for 1874-83 (the years that
were filmed). They should appear on JRI-Poland before long.

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ USA

Maurine wrote:

I am searching for descendants of Rose BEJACH and Jacob W. SHAFTON in
connection with my BEJACH family. Their children were:

Hazel Shafton UNGER (b. abt 1905)
Lester B. Shafton (b. abt 1906)
Stella Shafton (b. abt 1907)
Theodore Shafton (b. abt. 1909)
Sidney Shafton (b. abt 1911)
Phyllis Shafton GRAHAM (b. abt 1914)
Marjorie Shafton FEINBERG (b. abt 1919)

Rose BEJACH SHAFTON was the daughter of Morris (Moses, Moritz) BEJACH
and Johanna Pisner (or Pieser).


Tip: Sharing Research Data via Spreadsheets #general

Sal & Ellen Barbieri <elsal@...>
 

A friend set-up a class address/phone/e-mail list on
http://spreadsheets.google.com
She & I have access to make any changes/additions. After hard copy was
mailed to everyone, she can give access to anyone on the list so they can
view spreadsheet at any time. Saves resending new info everytime there is a
change.
Was thinking this could be useful for organizing/sharing genealogical data.
Set-up a spreadsheet to your liking and persons who are working together
from anywhere in the world could have access to make entries. Others could
have access to view it. I am not a computer whiz, so perhaps some of the
computer mavens might want to comment on whether this is a good idea and
make further suggestions.
Ellen Barbieri
San Diego, CA
elsal@...
Researching: ZYMAN, MARKUS- Lubowo (now Liubavas, Lithuania); KANOWICZ,
KAPLAN, KRAMORSKI, ZYMAN- Suwalki; FRYDLANDSKI, JAWORKOWSKI- Filipow;
GOLDBERG-?


Re: Steve MORSE #general

Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Joan Parker wrote on 26 jan 2007 in soc.genealogy.jewish:

There is a great four-page article "Stepping Up" about Steve Morse and
his one-step search options in the February issue of Family Tree
Magazine. It also includes a personal interview with him.
Interview:
<http://www.familytreemagazine.com/feb07/morse.asp>

Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Steve MORSE #general

Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Joan Parker wrote on 26 jan 2007 in soc.genealogy.jewish:

There is a great four-page article "Stepping Up" about Steve Morse and
his one-step search options in the February issue of Family Tree
Magazine. It also includes a personal interview with him.
Interview:
<http://www.familytreemagazine.com/feb07/morse.asp>

Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Tip: Sharing Research Data via Spreadsheets #general

Sal & Ellen Barbieri <elsal@...>
 

A friend set-up a class address/phone/e-mail list on
http://spreadsheets.google.com
She & I have access to make any changes/additions. After hard copy was
mailed to everyone, she can give access to anyone on the list so they can
view spreadsheet at any time. Saves resending new info everytime there is a
change.
Was thinking this could be useful for organizing/sharing genealogical data.
Set-up a spreadsheet to your liking and persons who are working together
from anywhere in the world could have access to make entries. Others could
have access to view it. I am not a computer whiz, so perhaps some of the
computer mavens might want to comment on whether this is a good idea and
make further suggestions.
Ellen Barbieri
San Diego, CA
elsal@...
Researching: ZYMAN, MARKUS- Lubowo (now Liubavas, Lithuania); KANOWICZ,
KAPLAN, KRAMORSKI, ZYMAN- Suwalki; FRYDLANDSKI, JAWORKOWSKI- Filipow;
GOLDBERG-?