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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica RE: Rabinowitz / FRIEDMAN #southafrica

Oscar Friedman <oscar.friedman@...>
 

Ros hello
First of all I am also >from Israel :)
As I mention before my Friedman family is >from Krakes (Krok) in Lithuania .
There may be connection to your family since the Shtetle you mentioned is
not far a way .
But ....
Unfortunately I have no Idea of the family history since all of My
Grandfather family died in the Holocaust, except him, and 2 brothers who
went to South Africa before the WW2 war there names are Pinke Friedman and
Hirsh Friedman.( past a way in South Africa in the 80s )
They have some children that may be active in the south African community,
but I am not sure they know more then me on the Family .

No one of the 3 brothers including my Grandfather ever talked about the old
family. And we do not have any one >from that branch in the UK as far as we
know.
For me the first step finding any clue about my Friedman is to get any
information on My Grandfather himself and his father :)
Sorry couldn't help
Oscar Friedman

-----Original Message-----
From: Rosalind Romem [mailto:rosalind@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 7:30 AM
To: South Africa SIG
Subject: Re:[safrica] Rabinowitz / FRIEDMAN

This is a possibility hanging by a thread of hope .
My Gparents in London used to visit Friedmans (any
spelling). We don't know where the relationship was...ABRAMOWICH or SHERMAN.
But as they came via Vilna >from Rokiskis I thought it was worth a try.
GF grew up in Rokiskis and GM probably not very far away. Research has not
turrned up anything on her.
Just a thought. Could you comment please
Ros
Jerusalem


Re: Rabinowitz / FRIEDMAN #southafrica

Oscar Friedman <oscar.friedman@...>
 

Ros hello
First of all I am also >from Israel :)
As I mention before my Friedman family is >from Krakes (Krok) in Lithuania .
There may be connection to your family since the Shtetle you mentioned is
not far a way .
But ....
Unfortunately I have no Idea of the family history since all of My
Grandfather family died in the Holocaust, except him, and 2 brothers who
went to South Africa before the WW2 war there names are Pinke Friedman and
Hirsh Friedman.( past a way in South Africa in the 80s )
They have some children that may be active in the south African community,
but I am not sure they know more then me on the Family .

No one of the 3 brothers including my Grandfather ever talked about the old
family. And we do not have any one >from that branch in the UK as far as we
know.
For me the first step finding any clue about my Friedman is to get any
information on My Grandfather himself and his father :)
Sorry couldn't help
Oscar Friedman

-----Original Message-----
From: Rosalind Romem [mailto:rosalind@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 7:30 AM
To: South Africa SIG
Subject: Re:[safrica] Rabinowitz / FRIEDMAN

This is a possibility hanging by a thread of hope .
My Gparents in London used to visit Friedmans (any
spelling). We don't know where the relationship was...ABRAMOWICH or SHERMAN.
But as they came via Vilna >from Rokiskis I thought it was worth a try.
GF grew up in Rokiskis and GM probably not very far away. Research has not
turrned up anything on her.
Just a thought. Could you comment please
Ros
Jerusalem


Uriel Eliyash first names #southafrica

Rosalind
 

Dear Genners,

My Great great GF was Uriel Eliash or Uriel Eliyahu son of Abel or
Yankel..no surname proper.
His son was Abram ABRAMOWICH. Daughter Freda. They lived in Pandelys
Lithuania.

I ran a search for Uriel and for Eliash and found the combination in a
handful of families only.
Does anyone have any comments to make on the following bits of information.

In Vaskiai Panevezys KAUNUS BIRTH on 1879 of Orel Eliash FRIDMAN,
Father Abel
Father's father Shloma
Mother Shifra.

I wonder if Shifra was the sister of my Uriel Eliyahu.

Does anyone claim this family? Can they help me ?

I have also found Uriel Eliyahu/Eliash in the families of VAINER and KROK .

Elias is a quite common first name and Uriel quite infrequent but as a
combination just a very few.

Any help would be most appreciated.

Ros Romem
Jerusalem


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Uriel Eliyash first names #southafrica

Rosalind
 

Dear Genners,

My Great great GF was Uriel Eliash or Uriel Eliyahu son of Abel or
Yankel..no surname proper.
His son was Abram ABRAMOWICH. Daughter Freda. They lived in Pandelys
Lithuania.

I ran a search for Uriel and for Eliash and found the combination in a
handful of families only.
Does anyone have any comments to make on the following bits of information.

In Vaskiai Panevezys KAUNUS BIRTH on 1879 of Orel Eliash FRIDMAN,
Father Abel
Father's father Shloma
Mother Shifra.

I wonder if Shifra was the sister of my Uriel Eliyahu.

Does anyone claim this family? Can they help me ?

I have also found Uriel Eliyahu/Eliash in the families of VAINER and KROK .

Elias is a quite common first name and Uriel quite infrequent but as a
combination just a very few.

Any help would be most appreciated.

Ros Romem
Jerusalem


Re: Rabinowitz / Brauer #southafrica

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

Another RABINOWITZ was mentioned to me:

Fanny RABINOWITZ (1894-1966)who married Harry Benjamin BRAUER (1879-1949).
She divorced him and married a second time to Joshua ELIASOV ( -1965).

The parents of Fanny are not known. She did have two children Jossie and
Aubrey BRAUER.

There is interest in finding out more about the BRAUER family, especially
since Harry Benjamin BRAUER's father Joshua BRAUER had a brother with a
different name Joseph LIPSCHITZ.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica RE: Rabinowitz / Brauer #southafrica

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

Another RABINOWITZ was mentioned to me:

Fanny RABINOWITZ (1894-1966)who married Harry Benjamin BRAUER (1879-1949).
She divorced him and married a second time to Joshua ELIASOV ( -1965).

The parents of Fanny are not known. She did have two children Jossie and
Aubrey BRAUER.

There is interest in finding out more about the BRAUER family, especially
since Harry Benjamin BRAUER's father Joshua BRAUER had a brother with a
different name Joseph LIPSCHITZ.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...


Rootsweb Mailing List #general

marilyn.hall@...
 

Greetings:
This is >from the RootsWeb Review. It is an e-zine that comes out every two weeks.
I found this link in the 10January 2007 Vol 10, no 2 issue. I do not have any
financial interest in this. I just thought that this might be of interest to
someone. It lists mailing lists that are on different religions.

http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Religion/
you are then sent to Religion Mailing Lists page.These are links to the
list administrator. To subscribe to one of these or any of the other
religon mailing lists, you send an email to
volhynian-mennonites-L-request@... for example with the word
"subscribe" in the subject and message body. There is a Digest mode and
a searchable archive as well.

euro-jewish-admin@...
jewish-roots-admin@...
lithuania-jewish-admin@...

A mailing list for anyone trying to trace their Jewish roots back to the 18th
century Grand Duchy of Lithuania - Kingdom of Poland Commonwealth before Jews had
surnames. Additional information can be found on the Jewish Family History
Foundation website. There is a Web page for the Lithuania-Jewish mailing
list at http://www.jewishfamilyhistory.org.

sephardim-admin@... For anyone who is researching their
Sephardim ancestors.
TX-jewish-admin@.... A mailing list for the discussion
and sharing of information regarding the genealogy and history of Jewish
immigrants and religion in Texas.

turkish_Jews-admin@... Sephardic Jewish genealogists
with roots in the former Turkish Ottoman Empire including Turkey,
Serbia, Greece, and Yugoslavia.
volhynian-mennonites-admin@... the Mennonites >from the Volhynia area,
and surrounding areas, of old Polish Russia, now know as the Ukraine.

Hope this helps. Good luck.
Marilyn Cooper Hall
Coventry, Connecticut,USA
Searching: ACHBAR/ACHBER-Lithuania, Canada, South Africa
SWEDLOVE/SVERDLOV/SWEDLOW-Byelorussia,Canada; LEVINE-Canada
GLATT-Canada; RAPOPORT-Belarus,Canada; COOPER/KUPFER?-Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rootsweb Mailing List #general

marilyn.hall@...
 

Greetings:
This is >from the RootsWeb Review. It is an e-zine that comes out every two weeks.
I found this link in the 10January 2007 Vol 10, no 2 issue. I do not have any
financial interest in this. I just thought that this might be of interest to
someone. It lists mailing lists that are on different religions.

http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Religion/
you are then sent to Religion Mailing Lists page.These are links to the
list administrator. To subscribe to one of these or any of the other
religon mailing lists, you send an email to
volhynian-mennonites-L-request@... for example with the word
"subscribe" in the subject and message body. There is a Digest mode and
a searchable archive as well.

euro-jewish-admin@...
jewish-roots-admin@...
lithuania-jewish-admin@...

A mailing list for anyone trying to trace their Jewish roots back to the 18th
century Grand Duchy of Lithuania - Kingdom of Poland Commonwealth before Jews had
surnames. Additional information can be found on the Jewish Family History
Foundation website. There is a Web page for the Lithuania-Jewish mailing
list at http://www.jewishfamilyhistory.org.

sephardim-admin@... For anyone who is researching their
Sephardim ancestors.
TX-jewish-admin@.... A mailing list for the discussion
and sharing of information regarding the genealogy and history of Jewish
immigrants and religion in Texas.

turkish_Jews-admin@... Sephardic Jewish genealogists
with roots in the former Turkish Ottoman Empire including Turkey,
Serbia, Greece, and Yugoslavia.
volhynian-mennonites-admin@... the Mennonites >from the Volhynia area,
and surrounding areas, of old Polish Russia, now know as the Ukraine.

Hope this helps. Good luck.
Marilyn Cooper Hall
Coventry, Connecticut,USA
Searching: ACHBAR/ACHBER-Lithuania, Canada, South Africa
SWEDLOVE/SVERDLOV/SWEDLOW-Byelorussia,Canada; LEVINE-Canada
GLATT-Canada; RAPOPORT-Belarus,Canada; COOPER/KUPFER?-Canada


Re: Baryczka Stara #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Lauren Lebowitz" wrote in

I am wondering if anyone has ever heard of Baryczka Stara. I believe that
it is near Lodz, Poland. I am having trouble finding information on this
place.
Barycz Stara and Barycz Nowa are located some 100 miles East >from Lodz, near
Radom.

Regards,

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Baryczka Stara #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Lauren Lebowitz" wrote in

I am wondering if anyone has ever heard of Baryczka Stara. I believe that
it is near Lodz, Poland. I am having trouble finding information on this
place.
Barycz Stara and Barycz Nowa are located some 100 miles East >from Lodz, near
Radom.

Regards,

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


ViewMate - Russian (Polish?) translation #general

Yaron Pedhazur
 

Dear fellow researchers,

I have posted on ViewMate the marriage record of Shlomo Wajngold and Feige
Szwarcberg, obtinaed through JRI-Poland. They got married in the Radom region
(Ilza?, 1883), and I assume the record is in Russian.

As they were my mother's grandparents, a full transaltion of the record will
mean a lot to us, to provide as much info on shlomo and Feige (including
all geneological details), and emotionally as well.

I would be grateful for your help!

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=9354

Please reply directly to: yarpd@...

Sincerely,

Yaron Pedhazur
Tel-Aviv, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate - Russian (Polish?) translation #general

Yaron Pedhazur
 

Dear fellow researchers,

I have posted on ViewMate the marriage record of Shlomo Wajngold and Feige
Szwarcberg, obtinaed through JRI-Poland. They got married in the Radom region
(Ilza?, 1883), and I assume the record is in Russian.

As they were my mother's grandparents, a full transaltion of the record will
mean a lot to us, to provide as much info on shlomo and Feige (including
all geneological details), and emotionally as well.

I would be grateful for your help!

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=9354

Please reply directly to: yarpd@...

Sincerely,

Yaron Pedhazur
Tel-Aviv, Israel


Tombstone Symbol #general

Ira <irablock@...>
 

I have a tombstone picture with an interesting symbol on it (Top
center), and would like some input as to what people think it is. So
far the only think I think it can resembles is an ornate letter F, for
the surname Felder. Any input is appreciated.

Thank You,
Ira Block

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=9364


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Tombstone Symbol #general

Ira <irablock@...>
 

I have a tombstone picture with an interesting symbol on it (Top
center), and would like some input as to what people think it is. So
far the only think I think it can resembles is an ornate letter F, for
the surname Felder. Any input is appreciated.

Thank You,
Ira Block

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=9364


Anyone know the town of Witkowo in NW Poland / NE Germany? #general

Saul Marks <saulmarks@...>
 

Dear All,

I was wondering if anyone knows much about the town of Witkowo, which is now
in NW Poland, but was in NE Germany in the mid-19th century? It's a little
to the SE of the city of Szczecin (aka Stettin).

I believe my DOBRZYNSKI & SCHELINSKI families came >from there, although the
former sounds like earlier ancestors could have come >from the city of
Dobrzyn, further to the SE.

Does anyone know of any records >from the town or the region around it? Would
the German SIG know more?

Many thanks,

Saul Marks
Liverpool, England
Family history: http://www.shmuelbennachum.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Anyone know the town of Witkowo in NW Poland / NE Germany? #general

Saul Marks <saulmarks@...>
 

Dear All,

I was wondering if anyone knows much about the town of Witkowo, which is now
in NW Poland, but was in NE Germany in the mid-19th century? It's a little
to the SE of the city of Szczecin (aka Stettin).

I believe my DOBRZYNSKI & SCHELINSKI families came >from there, although the
former sounds like earlier ancestors could have come >from the city of
Dobrzyn, further to the SE.

Does anyone know of any records >from the town or the region around it? Would
the German SIG know more?

Many thanks,

Saul Marks
Liverpool, England
Family history: http://www.shmuelbennachum.com


Chicago help - LEVIN #general

Jules Levin
 

Ironically my "Levin" family is my least well-known to me. I was
named after my grandfather, Julius (Yehudah) Levin, who came to Chicago in the
late 1880's >from "Kovno" or "Kovno gubernya". The name was shortened >from
either Levinson or Levinsky. I think the former is much more probable. I think
my father, a street kid, had very little communication with his father, since
I know so little beyond the above.

Thanks to an unforgettable incident in my father's childhood, I know
another detail that may lead somewhere. My grandfather had a brother in
Chicago who was in the soda pop business. Pre-WW I, that meant that he bottled
the pop himself and made deliveries to customers. The business was good
enough for him to deliver the pop using a horse and wagon. My dad told me all
this because once, helping his uncle make deliveries, the horse bolted with my
dad in the wagon and raced down the street. My dad was saved when a policeman g
rabbed the reins.

So now I am hoping that a pop-bottling business, owned by a Levin, c. 1900-1915,
will be listed in some Chicago city documents. Any help would be appreciated.
Jules Levin
Los Angeles


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Chicago help - LEVIN #general

Jules Levin
 

Ironically my "Levin" family is my least well-known to me. I was
named after my grandfather, Julius (Yehudah) Levin, who came to Chicago in the
late 1880's >from "Kovno" or "Kovno gubernya". The name was shortened >from
either Levinson or Levinsky. I think the former is much more probable. I think
my father, a street kid, had very little communication with his father, since
I know so little beyond the above.

Thanks to an unforgettable incident in my father's childhood, I know
another detail that may lead somewhere. My grandfather had a brother in
Chicago who was in the soda pop business. Pre-WW I, that meant that he bottled
the pop himself and made deliveries to customers. The business was good
enough for him to deliver the pop using a horse and wagon. My dad told me all
this because once, helping his uncle make deliveries, the horse bolted with my
dad in the wagon and raced down the street. My dad was saved when a policeman g
rabbed the reins.

So now I am hoping that a pop-bottling business, owned by a Levin, c. 1900-1915,
will be listed in some Chicago city documents. Any help would be appreciated.
Jules Levin
Los Angeles


Re: Roots travel advice in Lithuania and Latvia #general

Jules Levin
 

At 05:59 AM 1/28/2007, you wrote:

I hope to visit Keidan, Kovno, Slobodka and Srednik.I'd be interested in any
travel advice about Latvia and Lithuania as to getting around, such
as renting
a car, taking buses and trains, cautions, places to stay. Any help would be
appreciated offline or online, whatever is appropriate.
Howard Wolinsky
Since 1981 I have spent a total of over 6 months living in Lithuania,
so I do have advice on what to do.
Learn to say words like, please, thank you, etc. in Lithuania--you
can get all this on line easily enough.
Young people are much more likely to know English, most older people do not.
Your guide should be able to rent/own the car and drive.
Try not to have an "attitude" towards the natives; assume basic good will.
Several years ago Commentary Magazine had an essay on a visit to
Lithuania. The author was sure he
was the object of anti-semitism because some rowdy young people
glared at him and shouted something.
I had to laugh, since on my own stays there my Jewish identity was
much more obvious than his would have been,
and I never experienced overt antisemitism (and yes, I do understand
Russian and Lithuanian), even when walking on
Shabbat with a Chabad rabbi wearing his tallit over his clothes.
Rowdy (because of drinking..) young people are generally not even
sure what a Jew looks like, but they do know what an
American tourist looks like.
As for places to stay, there is lots of information on line. I just
googled Lithuania places to stay, and found many promising
sites. If you are with a guide, and trying to economize, it would
not be out of place to ask if it is possible to rent a room for the
night with a private family.
Plan on enjoying the experience--I would happily go back again, as
would my wife, a child survivor of the Holocaust.
Jules Levin


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Roots travel advice in Lithuania and Latvia #general

Jules Levin
 

At 05:59 AM 1/28/2007, you wrote:

I hope to visit Keidan, Kovno, Slobodka and Srednik.I'd be interested in any
travel advice about Latvia and Lithuania as to getting around, such
as renting
a car, taking buses and trains, cautions, places to stay. Any help would be
appreciated offline or online, whatever is appropriate.
Howard Wolinsky
Since 1981 I have spent a total of over 6 months living in Lithuania,
so I do have advice on what to do.
Learn to say words like, please, thank you, etc. in Lithuania--you
can get all this on line easily enough.
Young people are much more likely to know English, most older people do not.
Your guide should be able to rent/own the car and drive.
Try not to have an "attitude" towards the natives; assume basic good will.
Several years ago Commentary Magazine had an essay on a visit to
Lithuania. The author was sure he
was the object of anti-semitism because some rowdy young people
glared at him and shouted something.
I had to laugh, since on my own stays there my Jewish identity was
much more obvious than his would have been,
and I never experienced overt antisemitism (and yes, I do understand
Russian and Lithuanian), even when walking on
Shabbat with a Chabad rabbi wearing his tallit over his clothes.
Rowdy (because of drinking..) young people are generally not even
sure what a Jew looks like, but they do know what an
American tourist looks like.
As for places to stay, there is lots of information on line. I just
googled Lithuania places to stay, and found many promising
sites. If you are with a guide, and trying to economize, it would
not be out of place to ask if it is possible to rent a room for the
night with a private family.
Plan on enjoying the experience--I would happily go back again, as
would my wife, a child survivor of the Holocaust.
Jules Levin